• Re: New Paypal Policy Lets Firm Fine Users $2,500 for Spreading 'Misinf

    From Embrace Woke Go Broke!@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Sat Oct 15 08:53:09 2022
    XPost: alt.rush-limbaugh, alt.religion.christian, talk.politics.misc
    XPost: alt.religion.scientology

    In article <smerlm$dbp$11@news.dns-netz.com>
    governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Looks like it's time to cancel paypal.
    I just deleted my cards from the paypal account.


    A new Paypal user policy that permits the company to fine users
    $2,500 for spreading “misinformation” has caused quite a stir on
    social media platforms. After November 3, anyone who posts or
    publishes information or content to “promote misinformation”
    will be subject to the penalty.

    Editor’s note: This article was updated to reflect that Paypal
    has retracted the user policy information after the social media
    backlash. The company said: “An AUP notice recently went out in
    error that included incorrect information.” The last paragraph
    in this article contains the full statement from Paypal
    concerning the user policy.

    Paypal’s New User Agreement Clause Says It Can Pull $2,500 in
    Funds From Users That Spread ‘Misinformation’
    The payments services corporation Paypal reportedly plans to
    update its user agreement with a new clause added that fights
    against so-called “misinformation.” A new update added to the
    restricted activity section of Paypal’s user agreement shows
    that people who post or publish hate speech or misinformation
    “may subject you to damages, including liquidated damages of
    $2,500.00 U.S. dollars per violation, which may be debited
    directly from your Paypal account.” The Daily Wire first
    discovered the upcoming terms of service (ToS) agreement.

    The prohibited acts include “the sending, posting, or
    publication of any messages, content, or materials” that
    “promote misinformation,” the payments company warns. Of course,
    the news wasn’t taken too kindly by the general public, and a
    significant number of social media posts critized Paypal’s
    decision to implement the new user agreement. Canadian lawyer
    David Anber wrote: “[Hey Paypal] you have 30 days to explicitly
    renounce this abomination of a policy or I am permanently
    closing my account as will millions of others I am sure. Your
    subjective views on ‘misinformation’ or ‘discrimination’ don’t
    entitle you to your clients’ money.”


    Moreover, the Paypal news caught the attention of Tesla
    executive Elon Musk. When an individual wrote that the new ToS
    news was “worrying” and “that’s why we need the X platform more
    than ever,” Musk responded “100%.” Bitcoin supporters, of
    course, took to their Twitter handles and exclaimed that
    “bitcoin fixes this.” A great number of people on social media
    begged others to “close their Paypal accounts” and “boycott” the
    payment services company.


    “Paypal’s new policy lets it pull $2,500 from user accounts for
    promoting ‘misinformation,’ the Biden administration made easier
    for the government to spy on Americans, the FBI is acting like
    the KGB,” Pedro Gonzalez wrote on Saturday. “Venmo is owned by
    Paypal which is owned by Ebay. Pull away from all 3 ASAP,”
    another person tweeted. A number of individuals asked how Paypal
    decides what information is “misinformation” or not, and people
    many said current times are akin to a communist regime. One
    person wrote:

    And who decides what “misinformation” is? Why, Paypal, of
    course. I am sure they will be fair. Twitter will restrict your
    account if they don’t like what you post. Paypal has authorized
    [itself] to assess monetary fines for bad behavior. Welcome to
    the Soviet Union.


    Paypal’s Long History of Holding Back Funds and Censoring
    Financial Transactions
    Paypal has been accused of censorship for a long time now and
    picking and choosing sides based on the firm’s own subjective
    valuations and of course, state orders. At the end of July last
    year, Paypal revealed it partnered with the nonprofit
    organization the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and said it
    planned to study financial transactions that funded extremism
    and anti-government groups.


    In 2010, Paypal and a number of other financial giants blocked
    Wikileaks from getting donations, and it pushed Julian Assange
    and the non-profit toward bitcoin. In 2019, Paypal shut off ties
    to sex workers leveraging the adult web portal Pornhub, and at
    the time 100,000 adult performers were left stranded. In 2020,
    Paypal merchants who sold products associated with the eight-
    legged micro-animals called tardigrades or “moss piglets” had
    issues with the payment processor because the name tardigrade
    was used by a Balkan arms dealer.


    According to Eric July, owner of Rippaverse comics, two months
    ago Paypal gave him significant issues when he sold Rippaverse
    comics using Paypal and credit cards. At the time, $1.2 million
    was put on hold by Paypal and on October 6, July said that after
    making an erroneous error of only paying him back half of the
    funds, “the other half was released,” and “there was no official
    statement from Paypal as to why.” After a huge hassle, July got
    back “all of the initially held funds” and he further stressed
    that his firm would “never be using Paypal again.”

    The Rippaverse comics owner added:

    It’s a piece of sh*t company and I recommend that small business
    owners especially avoid using them.

    Paypal Claims New User Policy Went Out in Error
    On October 8, a Paypal spokesperson explained to the National
    Review that the user policy notice shared wildly on Twitter and
    publications, was a mistake. “An AUP notice recently went out in
    error that included incorrect information,” the Paypal
    spokesperson insisted. “Paypal is not fining people for
    misinformation and this language was never intended to be
    inserted in our policy. Our teams are working to correct our
    policy pages. We’re sorry for the confusion this has caused.”

    TAGS IN THIS STORY
    $2500 fine, Anti-Defamation League (ADL), Balkan arms dealer,
    Censorship, Communist Regimes, Daily Wire, Elon Musk, Elon Musk
    reply, Eric July, Free Speech, hate speech, Julian Assange,
    misinformation, Paypal, Paypal company, Paypal policy, PayPal
    User policy, Pedro Gonzalez, Porn hub, Rippaverse Comics, Soviet
    Union, Tardigrades, user policy, Wikileaks
    What do you think about the controversy surrounding Paypal’s
    upcoming ToS agreement that says it can fine accounts for
    spreading misinformation? Let us know what you think about this
    subject in the comments section below.

    https://news.bitcoin.com/new-paypal-policy-lets-firm-fine-users- 2500-for-spreading-misinformation-tos-condemned-and-called-an-
    abomination/

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    The average millenial wokster has over $100,000.00 in credit
    card debt.

    Woksters are too lazy to work and have no money except for what
    they leech from their parents, trust funds, welfare, or do-
    gooder handouts.

    Many woksters sign their lives away for $600 a month and an EBT
    card, claiming they are mentally incompetent and cannot handle
    their own personal affairs.

    Individuals who voluntarily affirm that they are mentally
    incompetent should also forfeit their right to vote.

    Woksters have similar numbers to homosexuals and constitute
    perhaps 3% of the US population.

    What strategic business principle sees profit in this kind of
    market prospect?

    What reasonable consumer would support a business with woke
    philosophies and policies?

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  • From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 15 20:13:20 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 10/15/22 2:53 AM, Embrace Woke Go Broke! wrote:
    In article <smerlm$dbp$11@news.dns-netz.com>
    governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Looks like it's time to cancel paypal.
    I just deleted my cards from the paypal account.


    A new Paypal user policy that permits the company to fine users
    $2,500 for spreading “misinformation” has caused quite a stir on
    social media platforms. After November 3, anyone who posts or
    publishes information or content to “promote misinformation”
    will be subject to the penalty.

    Editor’s note: This article was updated to reflect that Paypal
    has retracted the user policy information after the social media
    backlash.

    Irrelevant - they've revealed HOW THEY THINK and it's
    BAD thinking. Forget PP ... consign it to the waste
    bin of history. Besides, the amount of FRAUD involving
    PP or the PP name is ridiculous. I can see why Musk
    dumped it as fast as he could.

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 16 09:07:32 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 10/15/22 8:13 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    On 10/15/22 2:53 AM, Embrace Woke Go Broke! wrote:
    In article <smerlm$dbp$11@news.dns-netz.com>
    governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Looks like it's time to cancel paypal.
    I just deleted my cards from the paypal account.


    A new Paypal user policy that permits the company to fine users
    $2,500 for spreading “misinformation” has caused quite a stir on
    social media platforms. After November 3, anyone who posts or
    publishes information or content to “promote misinformation”
    will be subject to the penalty.

    Editor’s note: This article was updated to reflect that Paypal
    has retracted the user policy information after the social media
    backlash.

      Irrelevant - they've revealed HOW THEY THINK and it's
      BAD thinking. Forget PP ... consign it to the waste
      bin of history. Besides, the amount of FRAUD involving
      PP or the PP name is ridiculous. I can see why Musk
      dumped it as fast as he could.

    It's what Democrats do best, they steal your money... it's what they
    plan and plot and scheme for. It's the reason they see for their existence.

    --
    -That's karma-
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    Sean Langille: During questioning from Special Counsel John Durham,
    Brian Auten, a supervisory counter intelligence analyst with the FBI,
    revealed the FBI offered Christopher Steele one million dollars if he
    could corroborate allegations in the Dossier, but that Steele could not
    do so. Auten repeatedly admitted under questioning from Durham that the
    FBI never got corroboration of the information in the Steele Dossier but
    used it in the initial FISA application and in the three subsequent
    renewals.

    https://twitter.com/SeanLangille/status/1579933058123575297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1579933058123575297%7Ctwgr%5E5c157dc793b56eaed9e71fd30ab6402edec48d95%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2022%
    2F10%2Fkash-patel-calls-dirtbag-chris-wrays-immediate-impeachment-following-tuesdays-shocking-news-video%2F

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  • From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to BeamMeUpScotty on Mon Oct 17 00:21:03 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 10/16/22 9:07 AM, BeamMeUpScotty wrote:
    On 10/15/22 8:13 PM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    On 10/15/22 2:53 AM, Embrace Woke Go Broke! wrote:
    In article <smerlm$dbp$11@news.dns-netz.com>
    governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:

    Looks like it's time to cancel paypal.
    I just deleted my cards from the paypal account.


    A new Paypal user policy that permits the company to fine users
    $2,500 for spreading “misinformation” has caused quite a stir on
    social media platforms. After November 3, anyone who posts or
    publishes information or content to “promote misinformation”
    will be subject to the penalty.

    Editor’s note: This article was updated to reflect that Paypal
    has retracted the user policy information after the social media
    backlash.

       Irrelevant - they've revealed HOW THEY THINK and it's
       BAD thinking. Forget PP ... consign it to the waste
       bin of history. Besides, the amount of FRAUD involving
       PP or the PP name is ridiculous. I can see why Musk
       dumped it as fast as he could.

    It's what Democrats do best, they steal your money... it's what they
    plan and plot and scheme for.  It's the reason they see for their
    existence.

    The Wokies went beyond Marx ... instead of "the means
    of production" they've proceeded to try and seize
    "the means of finance" - and had some success. The
    smaller target means they can concentrate pressure
    more effectively.

    As for PP itself - it's always been iffy. LONG back
    I *started* to create an account and then changed
    my mind halfway through. NEXT DAY I was getting
    fake mails about bills and breech of account where
    I was supposed to click on a box and supply
    (non-existent) account numbers, SS numbers and
    all the rest. Somebody was WATCHING, in DETAIL.
    Some of the companies I deal with are getting
    fairly convincing fake PP invoices a dozen times
    a week now. "You just bought 100 bitcoins ! Click
    for Invoice !" "You just bought a 96 inch HDTV -
    click here for invoice !" It's a fake invoice
    reference which would immediately prompt you to
    call the "help" number. All LOOKS legit - but
    the 'contact us' number is usually in TURKEY,
    which is uncomfortably cozy with RUSSIA these days ...

    Just sayin' ......

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 00:38:31 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 00:21:03 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    As for PP itself - it's always been iffy. LONG back
    I *started* to create an account and then changed
    my mind halfway through. NEXT DAY I was getting
    fake mails about bills and breech of account where
    I was supposed to click on a box and supply
    (non-existent) account numbers, SS numbers and
    all the rest. Somebody was WATCHING, in DETAIL.
    Some of the companies I deal with are getting
    fairly convincing fake PP invoices a dozen times
    a week now. "You just bought 100 bitcoins ! Click
    for Invoice !" "You just bought a 96 inch HDTV -
    click here for invoice !" It's a fake invoice
    reference which would immediately prompt you to
    call the "help" number. All LOOKS legit - but
    the 'contact us' number is usually in TURKEY,
    which is uncomfortably cozy with RUSSIA these days ...

    Just sayin' ......

    It's called spam. Whoever you started that account with got your
    email and sold it.

    Swill
    --
    A lie can make it twice around the world before the truth has it's boots on.
    - Terry Pratchett

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  • From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Tue Oct 18 01:22:51 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 10/18/22 12:38 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 00:21:03 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    As for PP itself - it's always been iffy. LONG back
    I *started* to create an account and then changed
    my mind halfway through. NEXT DAY I was getting
    fake mails about bills and breech of account where
    I was supposed to click on a box and supply
    (non-existent) account numbers, SS numbers and
    all the rest. Somebody was WATCHING, in DETAIL.
    Some of the companies I deal with are getting
    fairly convincing fake PP invoices a dozen times
    a week now. "You just bought 100 bitcoins ! Click
    for Invoice !" "You just bought a 96 inch HDTV -
    click here for invoice !" It's a fake invoice
    reference which would immediately prompt you to
    call the "help" number. All LOOKS legit - but
    the 'contact us' number is usually in TURKEY,
    which is uncomfortably cozy with RUSSIA these days ...

    Just sayin' ......

    It's called spam. Whoever you started that account with got your
    email and sold it.

    I didn't even SAVE the info ... someone was watching
    REAL TIME.

    As for TODAYS PP 'spam' ... it's good enough so 99% would
    not be able to detect it as such. They CALL the number in
    Turkey and get BLASTED. Try as I will, I cannot elevate
    the collective IQ. I can instill a certain paranoia
    though ... that'll have to do. But that's in my little
    circles. What about everyone else ? THEIR stuff is often
    connected to MY stuff in various ways.

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  • From BeamMeUpScotty@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 09:30:16 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 10/18/22 1:22 AM, 26C.Z968 wrote:
    On 10/18/22 12:38 AM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Oct 2022 00:21:03 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

      As for PP itself - it's always been iffy. LONG back
       I *started* to create an account and then changed
       my mind halfway through. NEXT DAY I was getting
       fake mails about bills and breech of account where
       I was supposed to click on a box and supply
       (non-existent) account numbers, SS numbers and
       all the rest. Somebody was WATCHING, in DETAIL.
       Some of the companies I deal with are getting
       fairly convincing fake PP invoices a dozen times
       a week now. "You just bought 100 bitcoins ! Click
       for Invoice !" "You just bought a 96 inch HDTV -
       click here for invoice !" It's a fake invoice
       reference which would immediately prompt you to
       call the "help" number. All LOOKS legit -  but
       the 'contact us' number is usually in TURKEY,
       which is uncomfortably cozy with RUSSIA these days ...

       Just sayin' ......

    It's called spam.  Whoever you started that account with got your
    email and sold it.

      I didn't even SAVE the info ... someone was watching
      REAL TIME.

      As for TODAYS PP 'spam' ... it's good enough so 99% would
      not be able to detect it as such. They CALL the number in
      Turkey and get BLASTED. Try as I will, I cannot elevate
      the collective IQ. I can instill a certain paranoia
      though ... that'll have to do. But that's in my little
      circles. What about everyone else ? THEIR stuff is often
      connected to MY stuff in various ways.


    --
    -That's karma-
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    -
    Sean Langille: During questioning from Special Counsel John Durham,
    Brian Auten, a supervisory counter intelligence analyst with the FBI,
    revealed the FBI offered Christopher Steele one million dollars if he
    could corroborate allegations in the Dossier, but that Steele could not
    do so. Auten repeatedly admitted under questioning from Durham that the
    FBI never got corroboration of the information in the Steele Dossier but
    used it in the initial FISA application and in the three subsequent
    renewals.

    https://twitter.com/SeanLangille/status/1579933058123575297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1579933058123575297%7Ctwgr%5E5c157dc793b56eaed9e71fd30ab6402edec48d95%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2022%
    2F10%2Fkash-patel-calls-dirtbag-chris-wrays-immediate-impeachment-following-tuesdays-shocking-news-video%2F

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 18 17:51:11 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 01:22:51 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    It's called spam. Whoever you started that account with got your
    email and sold it.

    I didn't even SAVE the info ... someone was watching
    REAL TIME.

    Not some "one", some "thing". You were typing characters into their
    computer via their website. When one aborts such an application
    process, the date entered earlier is still in the site's computers
    even if you never save anything. The instant you type it in, it's
    recorded. How else do you think it appears on their web page as you
    type it?

    Swill
    --
    A lie can make it twice around the world before the truth has it's boots on.
    - Terry Pratchett

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  • From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Tue Oct 18 21:09:44 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 10/18/22 5:51 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 01:22:51 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    It's called spam. Whoever you started that account with got your
    email and sold it.

    I didn't even SAVE the info ... someone was watching
    REAL TIME.

    Not some "one", some "thing". You were typing characters into their
    computer via their website. When one aborts such an application
    process, the date entered earlier is still in the site's computers
    even if you never save anything. The instant you type it in, it's
    recorded. How else do you think it appears on their web page as you
    type it?

    I'm IT, I know how it works. Someone, or many someones,
    had put a little bot on the PP server - probably logged
    raw keystrokes instead of copying completed records judging
    by subsequent events. PP never noticed.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Oct 19 12:03:43 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 21:09:44 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    On 10/18/22 5:51 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 01:22:51 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    It's called spam. Whoever you started that account with got your
    email and sold it.

    I didn't even SAVE the info ... someone was watching
    REAL TIME.

    Not some "one", some "thing". You were typing characters into their
    computer via their website. When one aborts such an application
    process, the date entered earlier is still in the site's computers
    even if you never save anything. The instant you type it in, it's
    recorded. How else do you think it appears on their web page as you
    type it?

    I'm IT, I know how it works. Someone, or many someones,
    had put a little bot on the PP server - probably logged
    raw keystrokes instead of copying completed records judging
    by subsequent events. PP never noticed.

    Which is what I said! Some"thing", a bot, however you want to
    describe the lines of code that captured the data.

    And no, I don't believe you're IT or you wouldn't have said "someone"
    and then argued the point. You would have known it was lines of code responsible for recording your inputs in real time.

    Swill
    --
    What am I? I'm a progressive in my compassion for the vulnerable.
    I'm a libertarian in my passion for freedom and I'm a consevative
    in that I believe you need civilization to protect both of them.
    - Michael Schellenberger, independent candidate for Governor in California

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  • From 26C.Z968@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Thu Oct 20 00:44:51 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On 10/19/22 12:03 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 21:09:44 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    On 10/18/22 5:51 PM, governor.swill@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 01:22:51 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    It's called spam. Whoever you started that account with got your
    email and sold it.

    I didn't even SAVE the info ... someone was watching
    REAL TIME.

    Not some "one", some "thing". You were typing characters into their
    computer via their website. When one aborts such an application
    process, the date entered earlier is still in the site's computers
    even if you never save anything. The instant you type it in, it's
    recorded. How else do you think it appears on their web page as you
    type it?

    I'm IT, I know how it works. Someone, or many someones,
    had put a little bot on the PP server - probably logged
    raw keystrokes instead of copying completed records judging
    by subsequent events. PP never noticed.

    Which is what I said! Some"thing", a bot, however you want to
    describe the lines of code that captured the data.

    And no, I don't believe you're IT or you wouldn't have said "someone"
    and then argued the point. You would have known it was lines of code responsible for recording your inputs in real time.

    I'm very much IT ... and bots don't create THEMSELVES and
    go searching for servers - someONE writes them and PUTS
    them there.

    Dontcha know how software works ?

    Now in ten years or twenty years ... yea ... they MIGHT
    create and colonize all by themselves .........

    THEN be afraid, be very afraid .........

    Last weeks project was in 'C' - a UDP server. Connect,
    send commands, get results. It's bi-di though, the
    server CAN push status messages to the client by itself
    if needed. This week is a re-do of a good Python
    multi-purpose backup program that'd suffered years of
    feature-creep and became huge and unreadable/unserviceable.
    The object Pascal re-do will be 25% of the code size and
    far better organized and well-described.

    And yes, I really LIKE Pascal. Still have the IBM/MS
    multi-pass Pascal compiler on a VM and occasionally
    write little apps in it for fun. One actually does
    something useful :-)

    Cleaning dusty shelves recently I came across "Computer
    Language" volume 1 (1984). Articles are :
    BASIC Becomes a Structured Language
    Programming in the UNIX environment
    Bubble Sort, Insertion Sort and QuickSort Compared
    Improve Your Programming With Structured Techniques
    COBOL : Pride and Prejudice
    Exploring ADA and Modula-2
    and the "C vs FORTH Debate"
    Plus loads of vintage ads and reviews ... including
    for Turbo Pascal v2.0 and the CL *BBS* system at
    (405) 957-9370 (300/1200 baud)
    Super Forth 64 (for the C-64)
    Logitech Modula-2/86
    Interview with Charles Moore
    Small C for the IBM-PC ($40)
    TMS320 Software from CompuTalker
    mbp COBOL: 4 Times Faster and now with SORT & Chain ($750)
    Sage Computers
    Aztec 'C' compilers for 8086 and CP/M-80

    Pages a little yellowed, but not bad.

    I *think* you can actually download all or bits of
    it at :

    https://archive.org/details/Computer_Language_Issue_01_1984-09_CL_Publications_US

    I also have a BYTE mag with a review of something
    called Microsoft Windows - version 1

    (it was horrible BTW, but I do have it on a VM now.
    My old boss BOUGHT it back in the day. You could get
    better on a C-64 frankly, maybe STILL can :-)

    Ah ... those were the days - SO many balls in
    the air ...

    Always wanted a Sage computer - but couldn't afford
    one at the time ........... M68000 -> 68040 in
    IBM-PC desktop form factor. Yum !

    Was always intrigued by the Texas Instruments
    9900 series - back when there was about zero
    on-chip RAM/cache and main memory was actually
    a bit faster. They moved all the CPU registers
    to RAM and you could implement multi-user memory
    frames direct via CPU instructions - BLWP ...
    Branch And Load Workspace Pointer. Software
    solutions eventually became better.

    These days I mostly stick to Linux, a little for
    microcontrollers on the side. Still gotta rock
    the ASM a bit for those little PIC chips. A
    little PHP and even a speck of FORTRAN ....
    keeps it interesting.

    HATE ADA ... think "anal on Imodium" ... the DOD
    must hire newbies and hold a gun to their heads
    to make 'em program in ADA.

    Let's just say I found a good spot way back and
    never WORKED another day in my life. If you
    suffered in DilbertWorld ... well ... sorry ...
    sometimes the big $$$ ain't really worth it.

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  • From governor.swill@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 20 16:10:07 2022
    XPost: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, talk.politics.misc, alt.politics
    XPost: alt.politics.republicans

    On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 00:44:51 -0400, "26C.Z968" <26C.Z968@noada.net>
    wrote:

    I'm very much IT ... and bots don't create THEMSELVES and
    go searching for servers - someONE writes them and PUTS
    them there.

    Which is not the same as someONE watching you in real time.

    Swill
    --
    What am I? I'm a progressive in my compassion for the vulnerable.
    I'm a libertarian in my passion for freedom and I'm a consevative
    in that I believe you need civilization to protect both of them.
    - Michael Schellenberger, independent candidate for Governor in California

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