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  • So called Scientists announce new hype regarding Antikythera Mechanism

    From Oh so rich & successful JTEM@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 13 17:47:04 2021
    https://vimeo.com/518734183?utm_campaign=5370367&utm_source=affiliate&utm_channel=affiliate&cjevent=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e&clickid=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e

    The problem is, and it is a problem, we know how to
    build just about anything you could hope to produce
    with these materials.

    Modern "Science," engineers can do it. Tell them what
    you want it to do, map out their parameters -- the
    materials, the technology -- and they'll put together a
    machine that does exactly what you want.

    And that's a problem.

    Modern engineers are guaranteed success. Whatever
    they want to imagine this thing did, whatever they want
    to imagine it looked like, they can build it. And we know
    this. What we don't know is what the ancients were
    capable of, and exercises as described in the cite are
    telling us about modern engineers, not the ancients.





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  • From SolomonW@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 14 13:38:33 2021
    On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 17:47:04 -0800 (PST), Oh so rich & successful JTEM
    wrote:

    https://vimeo.com/518734183?utm_campaign=5370367&utm_source=affiliate&utm_channel=affiliate&cjevent=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e&clickid=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e

    The problem is, and it is a problem, we know how to
    build just about anything you could hope to produce
    with these materials.

    Modern "Science," engineers can do it. Tell them what
    you want it to do, map out their parameters -- the
    materials, the technology -- and they'll put together a
    machine that does exactly what you want.

    And that's a problem.

    Modern engineers are guaranteed success. Whatever
    they want to imagine this thing did, whatever they want
    to imagine it looked like, they can build it. And we know
    this. What we don't know is what the ancients were
    capable of, and exercises as described in the cite are
    telling us about modern engineers, not the ancients.





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    There is much truth to this happening, but why do you think it is happening here?

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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 15 12:39:17 2021
    On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:38:33 +1100, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 17:47:04 -0800 (PST), Oh so rich & successful JTEM
    wrote:

    https://vimeo.com/518734183?utm_campaign=5370367&utm_source=affiliate&utm_channel=affiliate&cjevent=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e&clickid=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e

    The problem is, and it is a problem, we know how to
    build just about anything you could hope to produce
    with these materials.

    Modern "Science," engineers can do it. Tell them what
    you want it to do, map out their parameters -- the
    materials, the technology -- and they'll put together a
    machine that does exactly what you want.

    And that's a problem.

    Modern engineers are guaranteed success. Whatever
    they want to imagine this thing did, whatever they want
    to imagine it looked like, they can build it. And we know
    this. What we don't know is what the ancients were
    capable of, and exercises as described in the cite are
    telling us about modern engineers, not the ancients.

    You should watch the series of which https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE is the first to see how
    the Antikithera machine can actually be built using only the basic
    technology of +2000 years ago. Bear in mind that this video series is
    several years old.
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    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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  • From SolomonW@21:1/5 to Eric Stevens on Mon Mar 15 14:38:14 2021
    On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 12:39:17 +1300, Eric Stevens wrote:

    On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:38:33 +1100, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 17:47:04 -0800 (PST), Oh so rich & successful JTEM >>wrote:

    https://vimeo.com/518734183?utm_campaign=5370367&utm_source=affiliate&utm_channel=affiliate&cjevent=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e&clickid=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e

    The problem is, and it is a problem, we know how to
    build just about anything you could hope to produce
    with these materials.

    Modern "Science," engineers can do it. Tell them what
    you want it to do, map out their parameters -- the
    materials, the technology -- and they'll put together a
    machine that does exactly what you want.

    And that's a problem.

    Modern engineers are guaranteed success. Whatever
    they want to imagine this thing did, whatever they want
    to imagine it looked like, they can build it. And we know
    this. What we don't know is what the ancients were
    capable of, and exercises as described in the cite are
    telling us about modern engineers, not the ancients.

    You should watch the series of which https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE is the first to see how
    the Antikithera machine can actually be built using only the basic
    technology of +2000 years ago. Bear in mind that this video series is
    several years old.

    Done this, after I saw it in Greece.

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  • From Eric Stevens@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 15 22:22:19 2021
    On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:38:14 +1100, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 12:39:17 +1300, Eric Stevens wrote:

    On Sun, 14 Mar 2021 13:38:33 +1100, SolomonW <SolomonW@citi.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 13 Mar 2021 17:47:04 -0800 (PST), Oh so rich & successful JTEM >>>wrote:

    https://vimeo.com/518734183?utm_campaign=5370367&utm_source=affiliate&utm_channel=affiliate&cjevent=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e&clickid=04c7c4cf846611eb818302be0a24060e

    The problem is, and it is a problem, we know how to
    build just about anything you could hope to produce
    with these materials.

    Modern "Science," engineers can do it. Tell them what
    you want it to do, map out their parameters -- the
    materials, the technology -- and they'll put together a
    machine that does exactly what you want.

    And that's a problem.

    Modern engineers are guaranteed success. Whatever
    they want to imagine this thing did, whatever they want
    to imagine it looked like, they can build it. And we know
    this. What we don't know is what the ancients were
    capable of, and exercises as described in the cite are
    telling us about modern engineers, not the ancients.

    You should watch the series of which
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4tw_UzqZE is the first to see how
    the Antikithera machine can actually be built using only the basic
    technology of +2000 years ago. Bear in mind that this video series is
    several years old.

    Done this, after I saw it in Greece.

    OK, so you know it doesn't require modern machine tools.
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    Regards,

    Eric Stevens

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  • From Oh so rich & successful JTEM@21:1/5 to Eric Stevens on Thu May 20 22:25:51 2021
    Eric Stevens wrote:

    OK, so you know it doesn't require modern machine tools.

    The problem is that nobody has identified "It."

    There was no way to produce a functioning machine with the
    parts available. People always discarded parts that were
    found or added parts that don't exist. AND THEN they always
    move on to making huge & unsupportable claims about it's
    function and accuracy...

    Again: We know how to do it. Tell the engineers what you want,
    tell them what materials they can use, what parameters to work
    within, and they will do it. They will produce a machine. Will it
    be the machine that the ancients produced? Who knows? Certainly
    not us. Certainly not anybody in the story I cited or the video you
    cited.

    THAT is the issue.




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  • From Oh so rich & successful JTEM@21:1/5 to SolomonW on Thu May 20 22:36:26 2021
    SolomonW wrote:

    There is much truth to this happening, but why do you think it is happening here?

    People like a good mystery. I endlessly speculate about the fate of historical figures, events & artifacts myself. I am not condemning anybody. Well, I am condemning the media and those who lick it up as if it were ice cream.

    The Antikythera Mechanism is awesome, even if we don't know anything
    about how it worked, what it could do.

    I mean, all the gearing, the way it was put together... THAT alone has been enough to prompt calls of "Hoax" or "Error." There was never any need for
    all the hyperbole.

    I mean, ship wrecks never ceased. Some have argued that it could be
    modern or it could have been dropped/sunk a thousand years later or
    someone could have even intentionally placed a very old device beneath
    the waves, to turn it into a valuable artifact.

    People have suggested these things, because just the pieces and how
    they are stuck together makes for a wondrous find...

    Why the hell can't people simply accept the miraculous when they see
    it? Why do they have to insist on more than is there?








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