• Re: Is It Valid To Say That We, The World, Are Moving Inexorably Toward

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to Walt In Seattle on Fri Nov 18 08:20:25 2022
    XPost: seattle.politics

    I sent, it disappeared, I think this time I lucked out
    and found a shadow, so I do not have to retype it all
    (and too frequently, I do not have the energy to redo!!!
    So is this gonna work?

    On 11/18/22 01:04, Walt In Seattle wrote:
    On Thursday, November 17, 2022 at 4:23:31 PM UTC-8, a425couple wrote:
    On 11/17/22 00:39, Walt In Seattle wrote:


    On 11/17/22 00:39, Walt In Seattle wrote:


    I am surely not positive,
    But I do think the statement "We, The World, Are Moving Inexorably
    Toward World War And Global Economic Decline" will not prove to be
    the case.

    I think most first world countries are wanting, and willing,
    to take steps to avoid war.
    Without their participation, I do not think any conflict would
    justify being called a "World War".
    And this should be even more true after viewing what is the case
    in Ukraine.

    What likely conflicts do you see that would likely qualify?

    Even if Red China decides to pull the trigger on taking
    ownership of Taiwan, and even if POTUS Biden takes the
    'newly described' action to defend, I think these two
    superpowers will keep the warfare and destruction local.

    Think Iran would start a serious war with Israel?
    I would not think it likely that it would get that big.

    Same with India and Pakistan.

    However, I think for much of the world's population,
    there will not be a great economic blessing.
    Too many people have accepted things that will limit
    their prosperity and growth.

    I am afraid I can not see good things in the future
    of the Arab & Islamic worlds.
    A large number of these people will chose their
    religion and violence and repression, over toleration.

    One of my most recent book reads is certainly depressing.
    I can not see real good things for Egypt.
    And the same feelings go for Afghanistan and Iraq.


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    What I see coming and what I can prove or argue convincingly are two
    different things. In addition, my geopolitical vision may be worse than
    my actual eyesight. So, we can just leave it there, 425.....

    My best wishes to you.
    We can leave it anywhere you want to.
    You seemed to have asked a question, and although I
    let a fair number pass without answering, on this one
    I had ideas, and had a few minutes, and had a motivation
    to try answering.

    IMHO, there will be wars, there will be a lot of
    suffering. But I think we will avoid the major
    nations raining destruction all over each other.

    I am quite sorry for those suffering in Ukraine.
    But, it seems to me, they have broken a lot of
    the teeth on that greatly feared Russian Bear.
    I'm sorry for the average Russian citizen, and
    all the dead Russian troops. There is sadness
    in having (allowing ??) a dictatorial warmonger
    in charge.
    (I still have great anger at fucking JFK and LBJ!)

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