• Re: Another school shooting

    From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 09:23:26 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 5/25/2022 7:49 AM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
    On Tue, 24 May 2022 23:31:20 -0600, in talk.politics.guns Just
    Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 5/24/2022 6:32 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
    On Tue, 24 May 2022 16:50:41 -0600, in talk.politics.guns Just
    Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 5/24/2022 3:53 PM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:

    The perp looks like a White supremacist Trump voter.

    https://cedarnews.net/english/world-english/481372/texas-salvador-ramos-18-is-suspected-shooter%EF%BF%BC/

    From (a) the name and (b) the photo, the suspect clearly is Hispanic, >>>> not Caucasian.

    Too early to say anything.

    It's not too early to say that Salvador is a Hispanic first name
    and that Ramos is a Hispanic surname and that his photograph
    portrays facial features, hair, and skin color typical of a
    Hispanic male.

    Yaba yaba yaba... and the last mass shooting du jour was a White guy
    pulling the trigger. So what? At the time I posted, they hadn't even finished the body count... they were still saying 12 dead at that
    point.

    I might say that he probably had an assault rifle, that he probably
    had recently purchased it legally, that he likely had no particular
    criminal record. I might say that and it's probably a good bet... but
    it's too early to say.

    It's not too early to demand action, though.


    And just what action does idiot Jones "demand"
    that he thinks will end school shootings?

    NOTHING WILL END THEM!
    As long as the idiotic media insists on making
    depressed and angry people famous, some will choose
    to become famous.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 11:58:32 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 5/25/2022 10:23 AM, a425couple wrote:
    On 5/25/2022 7:49 AM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
    On Tue, 24 May 2022 23:31:20 -0600, in talk.politics.guns Just
    Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 5/24/2022 6:32 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
    On Tue, 24 May 2022 16:50:41 -0600, in talk.politics.guns Just
    Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    On 5/24/2022 3:53 PM, Mighty Wannabe wrote:

    The perp looks like a White supremacist Trump voter.

    https://cedarnews.net/english/world-english/481372/texas-salvador-ramos-18-is-suspected-shooter%EF%BF%BC/


      From (a) the name and (b) the photo, the suspect clearly is
    Hispanic,
    not Caucasian.

    Too early to say anything.

    It's not too early to say that Salvador is a Hispanic first name
    and that Ramos is a Hispanic surname and that his photograph
    portrays facial features, hair, and skin color typical of a
    Hispanic male.

    Yaba yaba yaba... and the last mass shooting du jour was a White guy
    pulling the trigger.  So what?  At the time I posted, they hadn't even
    finished the body count... they were still saying 12 dead at that
    point.

    I might say that he probably had an assault rifle, that he probably
    had recently purchased it legally, that he likely had no particular
    criminal record.  I might say that and it's probably a good bet... but
    it's too early to say.

    It's not too early to demand action, though.


    And just what action does idiot Jones "demand"
    that he thinks will end school shootings?

    NOTHING WILL END THEM!

    Ramos is dead, so that ends any more shootings by HIM.

    As long as the idiotic media insists on making
    depressed and angry people famous, some will choose
    to become famous.

    Agreed. Some of the scumbags do it at least in part
    for notoriety. If the media would report shootings
    "by an unidentified person who shall remain nameless",
    that alone would reduce the number of shootings.

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  • From Onomatopoeia *BOOM*!@21:1/5 to x@y.com on Wed May 25 13:25:34 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 25 May 2022 13:24:11 -0500, in talk.politics.guns Onomatopoeia
    *BOOM*! <x@y.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 25 May 2022 09:23:26 -0700, in talk.politics.guns a425couple ><a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    It's not too early to say that Salvador is a Hispanic first name
    and that Ramos is a Hispanic surname and that his photograph
    portrays facial features, hair, and skin color typical of a
    Hispanic male.

    Yaba yaba yaba... and the last mass shooting du jour was a White guy
    pulling the trigger. So what? At the time I posted, they hadn't even
    finished the body count... they were still saying 12 dead at that
    point.

    I might say that he probably had an assault rifle, that he probably
    had recently purchased it legally, that he likely had no particular
    criminal record. I might say that and it's probably a good bet... but
    it's too early to say.

    It's not too early to demand action, though.


    And just what action does idiot Jones "demand"
    that he thinks will end school shootings?

    NOTHING WILL END THEM!
    As long as the idiotic media insists on making
    depressed and angry people famous, some will choose
    to become famous.

    Perhaps you might actually watch the news coverage, JW.

    OK, it wasn't JW... NBD.

    As of now,
    *you* are the only person repeating the shooter's name... the news
    media are all avoiding identifying the shooter by name.

    I think that we all realize that *nothing* will end the carnage in the
    short term. We must look 30 years down the road and envision an
    America without random mass shootings... you know, like the rest of
    the civilized world. At first, the gun lobby took baby steps: "We
    believe in absolutely gun-free, zero-tolerance, totally safe schools.
    That means no guns in America’s schools. Period." (Wayne LaPierre in
    an address to CPAC, 1999.) They agreed to gun-free churches and
    hospitals, also. A few years later, they were actively pushing guns
    into schools, churches, and hospitals... and here we are today with a
    daily blood bath.

    We cannot possibly undo all of the social damage wrought over three
    decades of gun proliferation with one act of congress; however, the
    longest journey begins with but a single step.

    Perhaps we're ready; people are very angry; this is good.

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  • From Onomatopoeia *BOOM*!@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Wed May 25 13:24:11 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 25 May 2022 09:23:26 -0700, in talk.politics.guns a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    It's not too early to say that Salvador is a Hispanic first name
    and that Ramos is a Hispanic surname and that his photograph
    portrays facial features, hair, and skin color typical of a
    Hispanic male.

    Yaba yaba yaba... and the last mass shooting du jour was a White guy
    pulling the trigger. So what? At the time I posted, they hadn't even
    finished the body count... they were still saying 12 dead at that
    point.

    I might say that he probably had an assault rifle, that he probably
    had recently purchased it legally, that he likely had no particular
    criminal record. I might say that and it's probably a good bet... but
    it's too early to say.

    It's not too early to demand action, though.


    And just what action does idiot Jones "demand"
    that he thinks will end school shootings?

    NOTHING WILL END THEM!
    As long as the idiotic media insists on making
    depressed and angry people famous, some will choose
    to become famous.

    Perhaps you might actually watch the news coverage, JW. As of now,
    *you* are the only person repeating the shooter's name... the news
    media are all avoiding identifying the shooter by name.

    I think that we all realize that *nothing* will end the carnage in the
    short term. We must look 30 years down the road and envision an
    America without random mass shootings... you know, like the rest of
    the civilized world. At first, the gun lobby took baby steps: "We
    believe in absolutely gun-free, zero-tolerance, totally safe schools.
    That means no guns in America’s schools. Period." (Wayne LaPierre in
    an address to CPAC, 1999.) They agreed to gun-free churches and
    hospitals, also. A few years later, they were actively pushing guns
    into schools, churches, and hospitals... and here we are today with a
    daily blood bath.

    We cannot possibly undo all of the social damage wrought over three
    decades of gun proliferation with one act of congress; however, the
    longest journey begins with but a single step.

    Perhaps we're ready; people are very angry; this is good.

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 11:40:40 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 25 May 2022 13:24:11 -0500, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! <x@y.com>
    wrote:

    Perhaps you might actually watch the news coverage, JW. As of now,
    *you* are the only person repeating the shooter's name... the news
    media are all avoiding identifying the shooter by name.

    Jones will now explain how we know the shooter's name.

    ----->

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 12:58:05 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 5/25/2022 11:24 AM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
    On Wed, 25 May 2022 09:23:26 -0700, in talk.politics.guns a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    It's not too early to say that Salvador is a Hispanic first name
    and that Ramos is a Hispanic surname and that his photograph
    portrays facial features, hair, and skin color typical of a
    Hispanic male.

    Yaba yaba yaba... and the last mass shooting du jour was a White guy
    pulling the trigger. So what? At the time I posted, they hadn't even
    finished the body count... they were still saying 12 dead at that
    point.

    I might say that he probably had an assault rifle, that he probably
    had recently purchased it legally, that he likely had no particular
    criminal record. I might say that and it's probably a good bet... but
    it's too early to say.

    It's not too early to demand action, though.


    And just what action does idiot Jones "demand"
    that he thinks will end school shootings?

    NOTHING WILL END THEM!
    As long as the idiotic media insists on making
    depressed and angry people famous, some will choose
    to become famous.

    Perhaps you might actually watch the news coverage, JW. As of now,
    *you* are the only person repeating the shooter's name... the news
    media are all avoiding identifying the shooter by name.


    More proof that Jones is an ignorant liar.
    He claims "the news media are all avoiding identifying the
    shooter by name.

    from
    "www.msn.com › en-us › newsSalvador Ramos Was 'Angry That He Did Not Graduate,' Texas ...
    May 25, 2022 · Elementary school shooter Salvador Ramos began his
    massacre by shooting his grandmother because he was enraged over his
    failure to graduate high school this week, according to a neighbor. ©
    Texas...

    from
    news.yahoo.com › salvador-romas-everything-know Salvador Ramos:
    Everything we know about Texas school mass ...
    May 24, 2022 · A gunman

    from
    news.sky.com › story › salvador-ramos-what-we-know Salvador Ramos:
    What we know so far about teenage Texas ...
    11 hours ago · An 18-year-old has been identified as the gunman who
    stormed into a Texas primary school and murdered at least 19 children
    and two teachers. Salvador Ramos was "the quiet type"

    from
    wealthyspy.com › salvador-ramosSalvador Ramos Biography, Age, Parents, Wikipedia
    May 25, 2022 · Salvador Ramos was the person behind the heinous -

    from https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/25/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-wednesday/index.html
    "about 30 minutes before the school shooting, Salvador Ramos wrote,
    "I'm going to shoot my grandmother."

    from
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61573377
    "named as Salvador Ramos"
    "saw Ramos emerge from the vehicle"

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 16:46:39 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 5/25/2022 12:24 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
    On Wed, 25 May 2022 a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    It's not too early to say that Salvador is a Hispanic first name
    and that Ramos is a Hispanic surname and that his photograph
    portrays facial features, hair, and skin color typical of a
    Hispanic male.

    Yaba yaba yaba... and the last mass shooting du jour was a White guy
    pulling the trigger. So what? At the time I posted, they hadn't even
    finished the body count... they were still saying 12 dead at that
    point.

    I might say that he probably had an assault rifle, that he probably
    had recently purchased it legally, that he likely had no particular
    criminal record. I might say that and it's probably a good bet... but
    it's too early to say.

    It's not too early to demand action, though.


    And just what action does idiot Jones "demand"
    that he thinks will end school shootings?

    NOTHING WILL END THEM!
    As long as the idiotic media insists on making
    depressed and angry people famous, some will choose
    to become famous.

    Perhaps you might actually watch the news coverage, JW. As of now,
    *you* are the only person repeating the shooter's name... the news
    media are all avoiding identifying the shooter by name.

    This is like shooting fish in a barrel. https://nypost.com/2022/05/25/details-emerge-on-texas-school-shooter-salvador-ramos-behavior/
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/18677297/who-texas-school-shooter-salvador-ramos/ https://news.yahoo.com/salvador-romas-everything-know-texas-221844298.html https://www.fox7austin.com/news/who-is-salvador-romas-what-we-know-about-texas-elementary-school-shooting-suspect
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/salvador-ramos-was-angry-that-he-did-not-graduate-texas-neighbor-says/ar-AAXHXsX
    https://heavy.com/news/salvador-ramos/ https://abc7news.com/elementary-school-shooting-texas-shooter-salvador-ramos-uvalde-tx/11893076/
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/salvador-ramos-texas-school-shooting-uvalde-b2087035.html
    https://www.ndtv.com/people/texas-shooter-salvador-rolando-ramos-was-bullied-at-school-had-disturbed-home-life-reports-3007244

    I could go on - and on, and on, and on, but you get the point.
    You've been caught in a bald-faced lie.

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  • From Onomatopoeia *BOOM*!@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Wed May 25 21:00:37 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 25 May 2022 12:58:05 -0700, in talk.politics.guns a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    More proof that Jones is an ignorant liar.
    He claims "the news media are all avoiding identifying the
    shooter by name.

    Piss off. I stand by my statement.

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  • From Onomatopoeia *BOOM*!@21:1/5 to Wondering on Wed May 25 21:02:26 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 25 May 2022 16:46:39 -0600, in talk.politics.guns Just
    Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    I could go on - and on, and on, and on, but you get the point.
    You've been caught in a bald-faced lie.

    The news media are generally avoiding using the names of mass
    shooters.

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  • From Just Wondering@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 20:18:20 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 5/25/2022 8:02 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
    On Wed, 25 May 2022 16:46:39 -0600, in talk.politics.guns Just
    Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    I could go on - and on, and on, and on, but you get the point.
    You've been caught in a bald-faced lie.

    The news media are generally avoiding using the names of mass
    shooters.

    Except they're not, and you know it, and what you posted to the
    contrary makes you a big fat liar liar pants on fire.

    I challenge you: Pick a recent mass shooting. Tell me which one
    you picked. I will find stories from a whole bunch of major news
    media using the shooter's name.

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  • From a425couple@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 19:18:19 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On 5/25/2022 7:00 PM, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! wrote:
    On Wed, 25 May 2022 12:58:05 -0700, in talk.politics.guns a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    More proof that Jones is an ignorant liar.
    He claims "the news media are all avoiding identifying the
    shooter by name.

    Piss off. I stand by my statement.


    What an ignorant, arrogant LIAR!!

    Even when shown the clear evidence and links
    that MSN.com, CNN.com, BBC.com, and the likes
    of yahoo.com, sky.com, and other news sources
    have distributed the shooter's name,

    to counter his claim that ""the news media are all
    avoiding identifying the shooter by name."

    Jones posts "I stand by my statement."

    ----------------
    Repeat

    from
    "www.msn.com › en-us › newsSalvador Ramos Was 'Angry That He Did Not Graduate,' Texas ...
    May 25, 2022 · Elementary school shooter Salvador Ramos began his
    massacre by shooting his grandmother because he was enraged over his
    failure to graduate high school this week, according to a neighbor. ©
    Texas...

    from
    news.yahoo.com › salvador-romas-everything-know Salvador Ramos:
    Everything we know about Texas school mass ...
    May 24, 2022 · A gunman

    from
    news.sky.com › story › salvador-ramos-what-we-know Salvador Ramos:
    What we know so far about teenage Texas ...
    11 hours ago · An 18-year-old has been identified as the gunman who
    stormed into a Texas primary school and murdered at least 19 children
    and two teachers. Salvador Ramos was "the quiet type"

    from
    wealthyspy.com › salvador-ramosSalvador Ramos Biography, Age, Parents, Wikipedia
    May 25, 2022 · Salvador Ramos was the person behind the heinous -

    from https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/25/us/uvalde-texas-elementary-school-shooting-wednesday/index.html
    "about 30 minutes before the school shooting, Salvador Ramos wrote,
    "I'm going to shoot my grandmother."

    from
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61573377
    "named as Salvador Ramos"
    "saw Ramos emerge from the vehicle"

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  • From Onomatopoeia *BOOM*!@21:1/5 to a425couple@hotmail.com on Thu May 26 10:31:08 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 25 May 2022 19:18:19 -0700, in talk.politics.guns a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:

    What an ignorant, arrogant LIAR!!

    Even when shown the clear evidence and links
    that MSN.com, CNN.com, BBC.com, and the likes
    of yahoo.com, sky.com, and other news sources
    have distributed the shooter's name,

    I didn't say that the shooter's name was classified.

    Tune into any mainstream national news live or recently recorded
    broadcast and count the number of times the shooter's name is
    mentioned... the shooting is about 48 hours old and you will not hear
    the shooter's name used in the discussion... they avoid mentioning the shooter's name insofar as they possibly can. The person's name is
    hard news, but they focus on the injured people, not the shooter... as
    they should.

    You, or some similar nitwit wrote: "Nothing will end [the mass
    shootings] As long as the idiotic media insists on making depressed
    and angry people famous, some will choose to become famous."

    The media is trying to avoid making them famous!

    And, the reason I am arrogant, sir, is because I have a brain and use
    it. I also read the post to which I reply before I type.

    And I stand by my statements... all of them.

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  • From Onomatopoeia *BOOM*!@21:1/5 to Wondering on Fri May 27 16:19:29 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Wed, 25 May 2022 20:18:20 -0600, in talk.politics.guns Just
    Wondering <JW@jw.com> wrote:

    Except they're not, and you know it, and what you posted to the
    contrary makes you a big fat liar liar pants on fire.

    Oh, well... we disagree. This does not shock me any because I do not
    recall where we have ever even agreed about the time of day. It
    doesn't matter what I say, you will throw a shrieking fit over it.

    But, just an observation, J.W.: you *really* need to find another
    epithet besides "liar". My belief is that some terms need to be
    reserved for the most egregious offenses; to that end, you will
    *never* see me hurl the term "liar" simply because I casually disagree
    with someone on some minor subjective point.

    Overusing an expletive like that is a certain sign of a weak
    vocabulary. *I*, on the other hand, have a vocabulary that is *so*
    big... it's like... you know... Thus, I would call *you* an
    abecedarian, or, perhaps an aphasic. Both speak to the idea of one
    who communicates poorly.

    You gotta admit that they're better than parroting "liar" every other
    post!

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  • From Klaus Schadenfreude@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 27 16:43:55 2022
    XPost: talk.politics.guns

    On Fri, 27 May 2022 16:19:29 -0500, Onomatopoeia *BOOM*! <x@y.com>
    wrote:

    But, just an observation, J.W.: you *really* need to find another
    epithet besides "liar". My belief is that some terms need to be
    reserved for the most egregious offenses; to that end, you will
    *never* see me hurl the term "liar" simply because I casually disagree
    with someone on some minor subjective point.

    If you'd stop lying, you wouldn't get called a liar so much.

    I thought you were a teacher. Don't you know what the word means?

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