Tank Design
With the western allies always one if not two tank designs behind the Germans, did they ever have a T-34 delivered to them to evaluate it
against what was coming off their production lines?
If they did...was it ever a possibility they could have adopted it
(improved on it) and churned it out like the Soviets did?
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
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Rich Rostrom wrote:
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
I suspect that the Myth came from the fact that the Germany Army
was surprised by it when it showed up in 41/42, that it was if not a
better, at least an equal to the German Panzers III, So, T-34 >
Panzer III becomes T-34 > all German Tanks, we know how tough the
Panzer 4 et seq were in 1944, ergo T-34s were the best tank.
Umm, not so sure about that.
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Rich Rostrom wrote:
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
I suspect that the Myth came from the fact that the Germany Army
was surprised by it when it showed up in 41/42, that it was if not a
better, at least an equal to the German Panzers III, So, T-34 >
Panzer III becomes T-34 > all German Tanks, we know how tough the
Panzer 4 et seq were in 1944, ergo T-34s were the best tank.
Umm, not so sure about that.
What the T-34 had was sloped armour and huge numbers.
Speaking of Russian tanks, here's one that I had to see to believe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAHrkK2IzmI
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Rich Rostrom wrote:
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
I suspect that the Myth came from the fact that the Germany Army
was surprised by it when it showed up in 41/42, that it was if not a
better, at least an equal to the German Panzers III, So, T-34 >
Panzer III becomes T-34 > all German Tanks, we know how tough the
Panzer 4 et seq were in 1944, ergo T-34s were the best tank.
Umm, not so sure about that.
What the T-34 had was sloped armour and huge numbers.
Ned Latham wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Rich Rostrom wrote:
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
I suspect that the Myth came from the fact that the Germany Army
was surprised by it when it showed up in 41/42, that it was if not a better, at least an equal to the German Panzers III, So, T-34 >
Panzer III becomes T-34 > all German Tanks, we know how tough the
Panzer 4 et seq were in 1944, ergo T-34s were the best tank.
Umm, not so sure about that.
What the T-34 had was sloped armour and huge numbers.
quantity has a quality of it's own
ZZyXX wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Rich Rostrom wrote:
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
I suspect that the Myth came from the fact that the Germany Army
was surprised by it when it showed up in 41/42, that it was if not a
better, at least an equal to the German Panzers III, So, T-34 >
Panzer III becomes T-34 > all German Tanks, we know how tough the
Panzer 4 et seq were in 1944, ergo T-34s were the best tank.
Umm, not so sure about that.
What the T-34 had was sloped armour and huge numbers.
quantity has a quality of it's own
LOL. I presume that's not your own original, but it's a goodie.
On 1/29/20 5:49 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
ZZyXX wrote:I forget who said it, possibly Patton
Ned Latham wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Rich Rostrom wrote:
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
I suspect that the Myth came from the fact that the Germany Army
was surprised by it when it showed up in 41/42, that it was if not a >>>>> better, at least an equal to the German Panzers III, So, T-34 >
Panzer III becomes T-34 > all German Tanks, we know how tough the
Panzer 4 et seq were in 1944, ergo T-34s were the best tank.
Umm, not so sure about that.
What the T-34 had was sloped armour and huge numbers.
quantity has a quality of it's own
LOL. I presume that's not your own original, but it's a goodie.
On 1/29/20 5:49 PM, Ned Latham wrote:
ZZyXX wrote:I forget who said it, possibly Patton
Ned Latham wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Rich Rostrom wrote:
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
I suspect that the Myth came from the fact that the Germany Army
was surprised by it when it showed up in 41/42, that it was if not a >>>>> better, at least an equal to the German Panzers III, So, T-34 >
Panzer III becomes T-34 > all German Tanks, we know how tough the
Panzer 4 et seq were in 1944, ergo T-34s were the best tank.
Umm, not so sure about that.
What the T-34 had was sloped armour and huge numbers.
quantity has a quality of it's own
LOL. I presume that's not your own original, but it's a goodie.
ZZyXX
Ned Latham wrote:
ZZyXX wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
pyotr filipivich wrote:
Rich Rostrom wrote:
So the idea that the T-34 was a vastly superior tank that
the US or UK should have copied is a myth.
I suspect that the Myth came from the fact that the Germany Army
was surprised by it when it showed up in 41/42, that it was if not a
better, at least an equal to the German Panzers III, So, T-34 > Panzer III becomes T-34 > all German Tanks, we know how tough the Panzer 4 et seq were in 1944, ergo T-34s were the best tank.
Umm, not so sure about that.
What the T-34 had was sloped armour and huge numbers.
quantity has a quality of it's own
LOL. I presume that's not your own original, but it's a goodie.
I forget who said it, possibly Patton
Both Google and Wikipedia attribute the quote to Stalin which is how I remember it as something said to FDR and Churchill at Teheran or Yalta
I forget who said it, possibly Patton
quantity has a quality of it's own
LOL. I presume that's not your own original, but it's a goodie.
Both Google and Wikipedia attribute the quote to Stalin which is how I remember it as something said to FDR and Churchill at Teheran or Yalta
"The Horny Goat" wrote in message >news:npk93f5sld3l5ellnm81qm44gdd66hn7mr@4ax.com...
I forget who said it, possibly Patton
quantity has a quality of it's own
LOL. I presume that's not your own original, but it's a goodie.
Both Google and Wikipedia attribute the quote to Stalin which is how I
remember it as something said to FDR and Churchill at Teheran or Yalta
Can it be traced back prior to 1979? >http://klangable.com/blog/quantity-has-a-quality-all-its-own/
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