• Unexploded Bombs

    From ZZyXX@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 14 15:41:26 2017
    See stories all of the time about them in Germany, France and other
    parts of Europe, but can't recall any about them in Japan, The
    Philippines or any other Pacific battlefields.

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  • From Bill Shatzer@21:1/5 to ZZyXX on Sun May 14 16:55:57 2017
    ZZyXX wrote:
    See stories all of the time about them in Germany, France and other
    parts of Europe, but can't recall any about them in Japan, The
    Philippines or any other Pacific battlefields.


    https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/japan-still-clearing-world-war-ii-bombs-from-okinawa-1.295150#.WRi-SENNybl

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  • From john Szalay@21:1/5 to ZZyXX on Sun May 14 16:55:13 2017
    ZZyXX <zzyxx@CampSoda-RestorationProject.null> wrote in news:ofab7q$u72$1 @gioia.aioe.org:

    See stories all of the time about them in Germany, France and other
    parts of Europe, but can't recall any about them in Japan, The
    Philippines or any other Pacific battlefields.





    https://japantoday.com/category/national/undetonated-one-ton-u-s-bomb- found-near-downtown-osaka

    https://medium.com/war-is-boring/the-land-of-the-unexploded-bombs-
    cdc73e6d8665


    http://www.staradvertiser.com/2013/06/04/breaking-news/unexploded-wwii- bomb-destroyed-in-tokyo/

    http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/863049/unexploded-500-pound-world-war-ii- bomb-found-in-surigao

    https://mikeinmanila.wordpress.com/2009/01/24/ww2-uxbs-found-inside-us- embassy-compound-in-manila/

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  • From Geoffrey Sinclair@21:1/5 to ZZyXX on Mon May 15 09:36:13 2017
    "ZZyXX" <zzyxx@CampSoda-RestorationProject.null> wrote in message news:ofab7q$u72$1@gioia.aioe.org...
    See stories all of the time about them in Germany, France and other parts
    of Europe, but can't recall any about them in Japan, The Philippines or
    any other Pacific battlefields.

    Partly it is about what rates as news. The demining and
    UXB efforts in South East Asia are ongoing for example,
    but rarely make the news.

    Mostly it is about the bombs dropped, in Europe and North
    Africa, the RAF claims to have dropped about 1,330,000
    short tons of bombs, the USAAF says it dropped 1,550,000
    short tons. The Luftwaffe also dropped plenty of bombs as
    did the Red Air Force and all the other air forces involved.
    So over 3 million short tons.

    The USAAF claims dropping 503,000 short tons in operations
    against Japan. The USN dropped about 103,000 short tons
    for the war, mostly against Japan. The RAF etc. also dropped
    bombs plus the Japanese forces but overall it is close to a
    5 to 6 to 1 ratio Europe to Pacific.

    Also most of the bombs dropped on Japan were by the 20th
    Air Force and its total tonnage for the war on all targets is
    171,060 short tons. So definitely under 200,000 short tons
    all up were dropped on Japan even counting the USN and
    other air forces.

    The allies dropped around 1,400,000 short tons of bombs
    on Germany.

    Geoffrey Sinclair
    Remove the nb for email.

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  • From Don Phillipson@21:1/5 to Geoffrey Sinclair on Mon May 15 10:23:03 2017
    "Geoffrey Sinclair" <gsinclairnb@froggy.com.au> wrote in message news:tpGdnYTlw6-MPYTEnZ2dnUU7-WHNnZ2d@westnet.com.au...

    See stories all of the time about them in Germany, France and other parts
    of Europe, but can't recall any about them in Japan, The Philippines or
    any other Pacific battlefields.

    Partly it is about what rates as news. The demining and
    UXB efforts in South East Asia are ongoing for example,
    but rarely make the news.

    Mostly it is about the bombs dropped, in Europe and North
    Africa, the RAF claims to have dropped about 1,330,000
    short tons of bombs, the USAAF says it dropped 1,550,000
    short tons. The Luftwaffe also dropped plenty of bombs as
    did the Red Air Force and all the other air forces involved.
    So over 3 million short tons.

    The two missing numbers here are the proportions (1) of
    duds dropped in war (bombs that failed to explode) and
    (2) the proportion of duds discovered and deactivated
    in wartime.

    It appears that roughly 5 or 10 per cent of explosive bombs
    (as distinct from incendiary bombs) failed to explode: and
    a small fraction of these went undetected (were not discovered
    and deactivated in wartime) -- hence the regular recurrence cf. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/03/second-world-war-bomb-leads-to-evacuations-and-school-closures-in-london-brondesbury-park

    We also read that farmers on WW1 battlefields, especially
    in France, sometimes get blown up when a ploughshare
    spikes a shell that failed to explode a century ago.
    --
    Don Phillipson
    Carlsbad Springs
    (Ottawa, Canada)

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  • From Jim H.@21:1/5 to ZZyXX on Mon May 15 12:47:09 2017
    On Sunday, May 14, 2017 at 3:41:27 PM UTC-4, ZZyXX wrote:
    See stories all of the time about them in Germany, France and other
    parts of Europe, but can't recall any about them in Japan, The
    Philippines or any other Pacific battlefields.

    It's been a decade or more since I read
    "Aftermath: The Remnants of War: From Landmines to Chemical
    Warfare--The Devastating Effects of Modern Combat" by
    Webster Donovan. IIRC, it deals with this topic, but mostly
    WWI artillery duds in Europe, and relatively modern minefields
    in SE Asia. Still worth a read, IMO.

    It even tells of the then-current way of disposal
    of the vast quantities of such duds from WWI & WWII
    in France.

    I think it was elsewhere that I read of either a Frenchman
    or Belgian who was self employed collecting and selling
    battlefield relics. He 'deactivated' stuff in his garage.
    He cut into a dud 75 or 105 projectile once too often, it
    went bang, and he & his garage went away, permanently.

    Jim H.

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  • From john Szalay@21:1/5 to Jim H. on Mon May 15 21:02:03 2017
    "Jim H." <ironduff003@gmail.com> wrote in news:c153053a-8d46-448a-8a5b-

    I think it was elsewhere that I read of either a Frenchman
    or Belgian who was self employed collecting and selling
    battlefield relics. He 'deactivated' stuff in his garage.
    He cut into a dud 75 or 105 projectile once too often, it
    went bang, and he & his garage went away, permanently.

    Jim H.



    there was a guy not too long ago that was collection and cleaning
    US civil war cannon balls, using a wire brush to clean one up
    it exploded. never again....

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