Is there some genealogy software out there which will output a
report listing all the paths between Person X and Person Y? For
example, I just went through and was able to trace two paths to one
of my ancestors. In one, I'm the 9th great grandchild; in the other,
I'm the 10th. My old go- to, The Master Genealogist (TMG) would do
this, but the report has gotten broken in recent years. I also have
Roots Magic 7 (RM7), but that seems to only do the shortest path. I'd
appreciate any other suggestions.
On 8/17/20 1:53 PM, john wrote:
On 17/08/2020 17:05, Joe Makowiec wrote:
Is there some genealogy software out there which will output a
report listing all the paths between Person X and Person Y? For
In Tools | Relationship Calculator you can select the
Relationships and then select Progenitors. So possibly you could
determine the full relationship in a series of steps? Calculate the
intermediate paths from you to the progenitors and from the
progenitors to your target ancestor using the Relationship Chart to
generate the intermediate steps relationship charts?
 (X->J->Y rather than X->Y)
IF is a pure descent issue, you could also build a focus group of
people who are descendant of the ancestor and also ancestors of the descendant with a filter, and then make a temporary dataset of that
group to run a report.
On 17/08/2020 17:05, Joe Makowiec wrote:
Is there some genealogy software out there which will output a
report listing all the paths between Person X and Person Y? For
example, I just went through and was able to trace two paths to one
of my ancestors. In one, I'm the 9th great grandchild; in the other,
I'm the 10th. My old go- to, The Master Genealogist (TMG) would do
this, but the report has gotten broken in recent years. I also have
Roots Magic 7 (RM7), but that seems to only do the shortest path. I'd
 appreciate any other suggestions.
Although the TMG Report | Relationship Chart option seems to fail if
there is more than one path and only give the shortest path, my v9.05
TMG Tools | Relationship Calculator still gives multiple relationships.
In Tools | Relationship Calculator you can select the
Relationships and then select Progenitors. So possibly you could
determine the full relationship in a series of steps? Calculate the intermediate paths from you to the progenitors and from the progenitors
to your target ancestor using the Relationship Chart to generate the intermediate steps relationship charts?
 (X->J->Y rather than X->Y)
On 17 Aug 2020 in soc.genealogy.computing, Richard Damon wrote:<snipped>
On 8/17/20 1:53 PM, john wrote:
On 17/08/2020 17:05, Joe Makowiec wrote:
Is there some genealogy software out there which will output a
report listing all the paths between Person X and Person Y? For
I think that's ultimately going to be the answer. I had so hoped that
there would be at least a semi-automated way to do it. And it gets even >messier when one starts looking at cousin relationships.
Actually, RM does a fairly decent job for cousin relationships. Ask
for the relationship calculator for two cousins, and you get a list
of the various relationships, plus the common ancestor(s) for each relationship. I often use this report to calculate the Coefficient
of Relationship fo a cousin and myself when we have multiple
ancestors in common. Of course, I have to do the calculation by
hand, whereas RM could do it easily if they would only add that
feature.
The issue then becomes finding the path to the common ancestors. In
the relationship chart, Roots Magic 7 (RM) only does the shortest
route. I just tried a couple of cases - me to my 9th and 10th g
grandfather; me to someone with whom I have at least 7 cousin
relationships, the shortest of which is 6th cousin thrice removed.
That was the only path RM returned on a chart.
On Tue, 18 Aug 2020 11:24:32 -0000 (UTC), Joe Makowiec ><makowiec@invalid.invalid> wrote:
The issue then becomes finding the path to the common ancestors. In
the relationship chart, Roots Magic 7 (RM) only does the shortest
route. I just tried a couple of cases - me to my 9th and 10th g >>grandfather; me to someone with whom I have at least 7 cousin >>relationships, the shortest of which is 6th cousin thrice removed.
That was the only path RM returned on a chart.
Yes, RMs charting shows only one path, presumably the shortest.I use
the Relationship Calculator results to calculate the Coefficient of >Relationship, because the value of that coefficient is directly
related to the theoretical Autosomal DNA results for the two
individuals, and easily explains Autosomal DNA values much higher than
would ordinarily be expected for the relationship shown by the
"shortest path". Here's the results for me and a distant cousin:
Thomas Weldon Hoffpauir and Charles Richard "Charlie" Hoffpauir
1. Fourth cousin once removed (common ancestor: Thomas Hoffpauir &
Marie Charlotte Périllard)
2. Fourth cousin (common ancestor: Thomas Hoffpauir & Marie Charlotte >Périllard)
3. Fourth cousin once removed (common ancestor: Edward Forman II &
Nancy Anna Perry)
4. Fourth cousin once removed (common ancestor: George Faulk &
Adelaide Hargrave)
5. Fourth cousin twice removed (common ancestor: John Perry & Penelope
Perry)
6. Fourth cousin twice removed (common ancestor: Luke Faulk & Celeste
Reples)
7. Fourth cousin (common ancestor: Joseph Ephraim Forman & Mary
Elizabeth Brown)
8. Fourth cousin (common ancestor: Pierre Stutes & Amelia Hoffpauir)
9. Fifth cousin (common ancestor: Edward Forman)
10. Fifth cousin once removed (common ancestor: Edward Forman)
11. Fourth cousin once removed (common ancestor: Thomas Hoffpauir &
Marie Charlotte Périllard)
Notice that the common ancestor pair of Thomas and Marie Charlotte
appear three times in the results, indicating three different ways
they are Thomas' and my common ancestors.
The obvious limitation of this kind of calculation is that for
accuracy, I need to have "all" of both Thomas Weldon and my ancestors
in my database.... so at best my calculation produces an
approximation.
On 17 Aug 2020 in soc.genealogy.computing, Charlie Hoffpauir wrote:
The issue then becomes finding the path to the common ancestors. In
the relationship chart, Roots Magic 7 (RM) only does the shortest
route. I just tried a couple of cases - me to my 9th and 10th g
grandfather; me to someone with whom I have at least 7 cousin
relationships, the shortest of which is 6th cousin thrice removed.
That was the only path RM returned on a chart. Both RM and The Master >Genealogist (TMG) identified all 7 relationships in the relationship >calculator. TMG returns all 7 paths in a chart, but the display of the
chart is borked.
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