• Familysearch and images

    From Joe Makowiec@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 11 20:29:01 2020
    I've noticed in the past couple of days that many resources - the 1900 US census comes to mind - which previously had images available at the familysearch.org website now say "Images Available", but you have to go
    to a family history center or affiliated library. Does anybody know
    what's going on? Why are these resources less available?

    --
    Joe Makowiec
    http://makowiec.org/
    Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
    Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to makowiec@invalid.invalid on Thu Mar 12 08:57:21 2020
    On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:29:01 -0000 (UTC), Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    I've noticed in the past couple of days that many resources - the 1900 US >census comes to mind - which previously had images available at the >familysearch.org website now say "Images Available", but you have to go
    to a family history center or affiliated library. Does anybody know
    what's going on? Why are these resources less available?

    Yes, I noticed that with the 1930 US Census too.


    --
    Steve Hayes
    Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
    http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
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  • From Denis Beauregard@21:1/5 to makowiec@invalid.invalid on Thu Mar 12 10:44:41 2020
    On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:29:01 -0000 (UTC), Joe Makowiec <makowiec@invalid.invalid> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

    I've noticed in the past couple of days that many resources - the 1900 US >census comes to mind - which previously had images available at the >familysearch.org website now say "Images Available", but you have to go
    to a family history center or affiliated library. Does anybody know
    what's going on? Why are these resources less available?


    Something weird ! I saved a lot of pointers to US census, using
    a pointer from the search.

    "United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch

    then the link which I saved. Because the links are to the image
    (and not to the content), most of these references are now lost.
    But in some cases, the list of names in the census page is still
    shown.

    It looks like if you saved the link and go directly to a page,
    you won't see it, but if you perform a search, then change the
    link on the URL line of the web browser, you can view it sometimes.

    On the other hand, now I see a lot of new records not available
    previously. Like if their bandwidth is limited and they
    need now it for the new records.


    Denis

    --
    Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG)
    Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - http://www.francogene.com/gfan/gfan/998/ French in North America before 1722 - http://www.francogene.com/gfna/gfna/998/ Sur cédérom/DVD/USB à 1790 - On CD-ROM/DVD/USB to 1790

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  • From David Oseas@21:1/5 to Joe Makowiec on Thu Mar 12 09:33:02 2020
    On 3/11/2020 1:29 PM, Joe Makowiec wrote:
    I've noticed in the past couple of days that many resources - the 1900 US census comes to mind - which previously had images available at the familysearch.org website now say "Images Available", but you have to go
    to a family history center or affiliated library. Does anybody know
    what's going on? Why are these resources less available?


    They still show up as unrestricted in the catalog. I've reported the
    bug to the FS support staff. I'll let the group know when I hear back
    from them.


    Regards,
    David Oseas

    Researching:
    HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
    KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York; SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania
    New York > Los Angeles; STECKER: New York > Florida
    WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

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  • From David Oseas@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 13 08:58:55 2020
    On 3/12/2020 9:33 AM, I wrote:
    I've reported the bug to the FS support staff.  I'll let the group know when I hear back
    from them.

    Heard back from my contacts: "This is an upgrade issue that has
    disabled some collections. We are working to restore it, but it is a
    very large issue affecting many collections and it’s going to take
    several days to fix."

    Regards,
    David Oseas

    Researching:
    HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
    KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York; SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania
    New York > Los Angeles; STECKER: New York > Florida
    WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

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  • From Ian Goddard@21:1/5 to David Oseas on Sat Mar 14 00:11:52 2020
    On 13/03/20 15:58, David Oseas wrote:
    Heard back from my contacts:   "This is an upgrade issue that has
    disabled some collections. We are working to restore it, but it is a
    very large issue affecting many collections and it’s going to take
    several days to fix."

    Another upgrade that breaks stuff. Has testing gone out of fashion? (Rhetorical question)

    Ian

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  • From Joe Makowiec@21:1/5 to David Oseas on Sat Mar 14 02:10:53 2020
    On 13 Mar 2020 in soc.genealogy.computing, David Oseas wrote:

    Heard back from my contacts: "This is an upgrade issue that has
    disabled some collections. We are working to restore it, but it is a
    very large issue affecting many collections and itƒ Ts going to take
    several days to fix."

    Thanks for the reply. The site currently reports:

    Some features on FamilySearch may be unavailable as we make
    improvements to the site starting Friday, March 13th at 8:00 pm
    (UTC-04:00) and lasting about 60 hours. We apologize for the
    inconvenience.

    --
    Joe Makowiec
    http://makowiec.org/
    Email: http://makowiec.org/contact/?Joe
    Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

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  • From J. Hugh Sullivan@21:1/5 to ianng@austonley.org.uk on Sat Mar 14 12:28:32 2020
    On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 00:11:52 +0000, Ian Goddard
    <ianng@austonley.org.uk> wrote:

    On 13/03/20 15:58, David Oseas wrote:
    Heard back from my contacts:   "This is an upgrade issue that has
    disabled some collections. We are working to restore it, but it is a
    very large issue affecting many collections and it’s going to take
    several days to fix."

    Another upgrade that breaks stuff. Has testing gone out of fashion? >(Rhetorical question)

    Ian

    Speaking as a 92 year old man, am I supposed to be surprised that the
    smarter we get the dumber we get?

    Hugh

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  • From Denis Beauregard@21:1/5 to ianng@austonley.org.uk on Sat Mar 14 12:03:45 2020
    On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 00:11:52 +0000, Ian Goddard
    <ianng@austonley.org.uk> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

    On 13/03/20 15:58, David Oseas wrote:
    Heard back from my contacts:   "This is an upgrade issue that has
    disabled some collections. We are working to restore it, but it is a
    very large issue affecting many collections and it’s going to take
    several days to fix."

    Another upgrade that breaks stuff. Has testing gone out of fashion? >(Rhetorical question)

    I found this morning a page with the number of records available
    on FamilySearch.


    o Searchable names in records: 7.08 billion
    o Searchable records: 4.77 billion
    o Published record images: 3.06 billion


    So we are lucky all this is available and the site is usually
    working nicely ! At least, we know it is a bug that will be corrected.


    Denis

    --
    Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG)
    Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - http://www.francogene.com/gfan/gfan/998/ French in North America before 1722 - http://www.francogene.com/gfna/gfna/998/ Sur cédérom/DVD/USB à 1790 - On CD-ROM/DVD/USB to 1790

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  • From David Oseas@21:1/5 to Ian Goddard on Sat Mar 14 13:34:16 2020
    On 3/13/2020 5:11 PM, Ian Goddard wrote:

    Another upgrade that breaks stuff.  Has testing gone out of fashion? (Rhetorical question)

    [off topic]
    As a software developer for a tech company, I can state that with
    today's multi-tier, distributed architectures, even the most rigorous
    testing won't uncover every issue. The best you can hope for is to have
    a good ready response team standing by to handle the fall out.

    I used to dread rolling out customer-facing updates. However, with
    modern system architecture, you can usually stage the rollout so that
    only some of the customers are affected.

    Unfortunately, with backend and infrastructure changes, you usually
    don't have this option.
    [/off topic]


    I just checked & the 1900 Census images are now available to me. Don't
    know if this is intermittent, or a permanent "fix".

    Regards,
    David Oseas

    Researching:
    HYMAN/HEYMAN/HEIMOWITS/CHAJMOVITS: Zemplen-Dobra, Hungary > New York
    KLEIN: Satoraljaujhely (Ujhely), Hungary > New York > Los Angeles OSEAS/OSIAS/OSIASI/OZIAS: Iasi, Romania > Chicago > Milwaukee > Los Angeles SCHECHTER/SCHACHTER: Odessa, Ukraine > New York; SHERMAN: Iasi, Romania
    New York > Los Angeles; STECKER: New York > Florida
    WICHMAN: Syczkowo (Bobruisk), Belarus > Milwaukee > Los Angeles

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  • From Ian Goddard@21:1/5 to David Oseas on Sat Mar 14 20:50:54 2020
    On 14/03/20 20:34, David Oseas wrote:
    On 3/13/2020 5:11 PM, Ian Goddard wrote:

    Another upgrade that breaks stuff.  Has testing gone out of fashion?
    (Rhetorical question)

    [off topic]
    As a software developer for a tech company, I can state that with
    today's multi-tier, distributed architectures, even the most rigorous
    testing won't uncover every issue.

    And as an antique sometime developer I can only offer this advice:
    don't build what you can't test.

    Ian

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  • From J. Hugh Sullivan@21:1/5 to ianng@austonley.org.uk on Sun Mar 15 12:38:05 2020
    On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 20:50:54 +0000, Ian Goddard
    <ianng@austonley.org.uk> wrote:

    On 14/03/20 20:34, David Oseas wrote:
    On 3/13/2020 5:11 PM, Ian Goddard wrote:

    Another upgrade that breaks stuff.  Has testing gone out of fashion?
    (Rhetorical question)

    [off topic]
    As a software developer for a tech company, I can state that with
    today's multi-tier, distributed architectures, even the most rigorous
    testing won't uncover every issue.

    And as an antique sometime developer I can only offer this advice:
    don't build what you can't test.

    Ian

    That sounds like game, set, match to me.

    Hugh

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