• More RootsMagic

    From J. Hugh Sullivan@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 15 18:26:10 2019
    I started reviewing the problems the program listed.

    About halfway through more than 90% were due to faulty research by
    researchers I had accepted without checking - incorrect, actually
    impossible dates mostly.

    RM gives quick access to Family Search. The info I have found is
    better if not always absolutely accurate. Ancestry has more faulty
    data than FS.

    I have found several female surnames I did not have.

    Hugh

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to Sullivan on Thu Apr 18 13:52:48 2019
    On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:26:10 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
    Sullivan) wrote:

    I started reviewing the problems the program listed.

    About halfway through more than 90% were due to faulty research by >researchers I had accepted without checking - incorrect, actually
    impossible dates mostly.

    RM gives quick access to Family Search. The info I have found is
    better if not always absolutely accurate. Ancestry has more faulty
    data than FS.

    I have found several female surnames I did not have.

    If you are sure your data is better, copy iy across.


    --
    Steve Hayes
    Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
    http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

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  • From J. Hugh Sullivan@21:1/5 to hayesstw@telkomsa.net on Thu Apr 18 13:34:21 2019
    On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:52:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:


    If you are sure your data is better, copy iy across.

    Steve Hayes

    I don't release my data to commercial entities. Too many people have
    posted incorrect data and people copy without checking.

    As I have mentioned before I have found 9 different sets of parents
    for my gg grandfather and all are wrong. Posting a more accurate one (unarguable but not proven) would just confuse people more than they
    already are.

    Hugh

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to Sullivan on Fri Apr 19 07:30:37 2019
    On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:34:21 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
    Sullivan) wrote:

    On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:52:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:


    If you are sure your data is better, copy iy across.

    Steve Hayes

    I don't release my data to commercial entities. Too many people have
    posted incorrect data and people copy without checking.

    FamilySearch isn't a commercial entity.

    And I copy mine across precisely because too many people have posted
    incorrect data and people copy without checvking. Much of my
    genealogicval activity these days is checking and corrwecting, both in
    my iown records and on FamilySearch.

    For example, a distant cousin in Canada sent me a descendant report
    from her tree. I found several errors in what she sent, and on
    FamilySearch -- children attributed to wrong parents etc. I used
    FamilySearch to check, merge and correct both my own local tree and
    the one on FamilySearch. That impoves FamilySearch of other
    researches, so at least if they copy without checking there will be
    fewer errors in what they copy. And I send my Canadian cousin revised
    family group sheets for each corrected family.

    As I have mentioned before I have found 9 different sets of parents
    for my gg grandfather and all are wrong. Posting a more accurate one >(unarguable but not proven) would just confuse people more than they
    already are.

    In that case I would remove the wrong ones, with a note explaining why
    they are wrong. That would reduce the confusion. The "Discussion"
    feature on RootsMagic is working again, so it is now easy to do that.

    Though I've heard a new version of RootsMagic is due to come out, and
    I fear that it may no longer work on my computer, and that version 7
    will no longer be maintained, so I'll lose the FamilySearch
    connection. Since I'm a pensioner, I cannot afford to buy a new
    computer every couple of years to "improve" my "user experience".


    --
    Steve Hayes
    Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
    http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

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  • From Denis Beauregard@21:1/5 to hayesstw@telkomsa.net on Fri Apr 19 08:50:26 2019
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 07:30:37 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote in soc.genealogy.computing:

    On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:34:21 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
    Sullivan) wrote:

    On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:52:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:


    If you are sure your data is better, copy iy across.

    Steve Hayes

    I don't release my data to commercial entities. Too many people have
    posted incorrect data and people copy without checking.

    FamilySearch isn't a commercial entity.

    And I copy mine across precisely because too many people have posted >incorrect data and people copy without checvking. Much of my
    genealogicval activity these days is checking and corrwecting, both in
    my iown records and on FamilySearch.

    For example, a distant cousin in Canada sent me a descendant report
    from her tree. I found several errors in what she sent, and on
    FamilySearch -- children attributed to wrong parents etc. I used
    FamilySearch to check, merge and correct both my own local tree and
    the one on FamilySearch. That impoves FamilySearch of other
    researches, so at least if they copy without checking there will be
    fewer errors in what they copy. And I send my Canadian cousin revised
    family group sheets for each corrected family.

    I think you can't "correct" a tree on Family Search. Ancestral File
    is obsolete for years (they accepted the fact they can't merge every
    one) and Pedigree Files will remain as is, but you may download
    another file. I have seen the same information in 2 or 3 similar
    trees. I suppose you can't remove an old tree and there is no link
    to correct something on this part of the site. I have seen only
    links to correct data extract from a death notice because it is
    extracted automatically.


    Denis

    --
    Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG)
    Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - http://www.francogene.com/gfan/gfan/998/ French in North America before 1722 - http://www.francogene.com/gfna/gfna/998/ Sur cédérom/DVD/USB à 1790 - On CD-ROM/DVD/USB to 1790

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  • From J. Hugh Sullivan@21:1/5 to hayesstw@telkomsa.net on Fri Apr 19 13:22:45 2019
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 07:30:37 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

    On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:34:21 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh
    Sullivan) wrote:

    On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:52:48 +0200, Steve Hayes
    <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:


    If you are sure your data is better, copy iy across.

    Steve Hayes

    I don't release my data to commercial entities. Too many people have
    posted incorrect data and people copy without checking.

    FamilySearch isn't a commercial entity.

    By commercial entities I actually meant Ancestry.com.

    And I copy mine across precisely because too many people have posted >incorrect data and people copy without checvking. Much of my
    genealogicval activity these days is checking and corrwecting, both in
    my iown records and on FamilySearch.

    I find that too few people appreciate that. I came to a conclusion
    about 20 years ago that I later determined was incorrect. I informed
    the people I gave the info. Not only would one or two not change,
    several others had copied by that time.

    Another researcher dot a lot of data from me and posted her version on
    Ancestry with numerous obvious errors. When others errors are noted
    they often will not even answer requests to discuss.

    For example, a distant cousin in Canada sent me a descendant report
    from her tree. I found several errors in what she sent, and on
    FamilySearch -- children attributed to wrong parents etc. I used
    FamilySearch to check, merge and correct both my own local tree and
    the one on FamilySearch. That impoves FamilySearch of other
    researches, so at least if they copy without checking there will be
    fewer errors in what they copy. And I send my Canadian cousin revised
    family group sheets for each corrected family.

    My sincere compliments.

    In my situation the prents of my gg grandfather will never be proven -
    too many records destroyed by war, fire and fllod, even if they ever
    existed. So we wind up with 9 situations I can disprove and my
    unarguable position that can't be proved.

    I just recently switched to RM as my main program and I had never
    spent much time with Family Search before. I'm long past the point
    when anyone can give me data I don't have other than recent families -
    and I find it boring to work on the current family of a third cousin
    twice removed. :) However, right or wrong, I am finding a few older
    female surnames and sever dates that I did not have (all about people
    I never heard of).

    Though I've heard a new version of RootsMagic is due to come out, and
    I fear that it may no longer work on my computer, and that version 7
    will no longer be maintained, so I'll lose the FamilySearch
    connection. Since I'm a pensioner, I cannot afford to buy a new
    computer every couple of years to "improve" my "user experience".

    I am fortunate in that regard. My company had an excellent retirement
    program - my military pension pays all medical that Medicare does not
    pay and most of the drug cost - and the sons and grandsons are
    self-supporting. We have always been fiscally conservative.

    I have an Asus and Surface Pro 6, both with i7 chips, 2 and 1 year old
    - both gifts from my wife. I use one for desktop and the other
    portable.

    Hugh

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invali on Sun Apr 21 07:24:24 2019
    On Fri, 19 Apr 2019 08:50:26 -0400, Denis Beauregard <denis.b-at-francogene.com@fr.invalid> wrote:

    I think you can't "correct" a tree on Family Search. Ancestral File
    is obsolete for years (they accepted the fact they can't merge every
    one) and Pedigree Files will remain as is, but you may download
    another file. I have seen the same information in 2 or 3 similar
    trees. I suppose you can't remove an old tree and there is no link
    to correct something on this part of the site. I have seen only
    links to correct data extract from a death notice because it is
    extracted automatically.

    You most certainly can correct it, and I have done so many times.


    --
    Steve Hayes
    Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
    http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

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