• Francis Gabriel Holland 1566-1660

    From Sally Matter@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 4 07:54:40 2023
    I come from the line of Gabriel through VA. How is he tied into the Holland Line of the Duke of Exeter Family?

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  • From taf@21:1/5 to Sally Matter on Tue Apr 4 10:19:21 2023
    On Tuesday, April 4, 2023 at 7:54:42 AM UTC-7, Sally Matter wrote:
    I come from the line of Gabriel through VA. How is he tied into the Holland Line of the Duke of Exeter Family?

    What makes you think he was tied to them? Unfortunately, there is a long tradition of just tracing as far as one can and then picking someone famous with the name surname to invent connections to. While it is possible that the London-area Holland family
    of Gabriel had some remote connection to the Holands of Upholland, to which the Dukes of Exeter belonged, it is just as likely they descended from an immigrant from Holland and were completely unrelated to the Upholland family.

    As to the Dukes of Exeter themselves, Duke Henry is the last known male-line survivor of his branch. He had three illegitimate half-brothers who apparently died before him. Only one of these is known to have married, and he had only daughters. However,
    these brothers, often misattributed as sons of Duke Henry, have served as frequent targets for Holland family 'pin the tail on the donkey' descents.

    taf

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