On Monday, September 16, 1996 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, mrsan...@aol.com wrote:
Becky, I have had several responses to my posting about the ancestry of Chretian Dubois of Wicres, France. Without exception, everyone seems to accept the information outlined in Murphey's book on the European ancestry of Chretian. While I have some reservations, I accept these lines of descent also. However, I am curious to find out if anyone else has done any research to follow up or expand on the information outlined in his book. By the way, I do believe that I have discovered a line of descent from Philip V of France. However, that is conditional upon the ancestry outlined by Murphy. Research conducted many years ago looked at one Wallerand Dubois as the father of Chretian. However, I have found that at least one genealogist has proclaimed that Wallerand Seigneur De Beauframez removed from France and went to Holland. However, I do not have any evidence to suggest that this did occur. Several Dubois family historians have stated that Wallerand Dubois died without having had any children. By the way, for those who are interested. It appears that Jean De Lannoy IV (died 1525) was married first to Marguerite De Flanders and that his second wife was Philippine De Plaines (widow of Pierre De Bourbon). Therefore Chretians line of descent from King Philip V would be as follows.
1. Chretian Dubois, Gentleman of Wicres b. 1597
2. Jean Dubois De Fiennes
3. Charles Dubois De Fiennes married Barbe De Beauffremez
4. Antoine Dubois De Fiennes married Baudouine Lyonnel
5. Claudine De Lannoy (born about 1507) married Charles Dubois Defiennes 6. Jean De Lannoy, Seigneur De Maingoval married 1st Marguerite De Flanders
7. Ludwik De Flandres II (d.1488) married Louise De Bruges
8. Johann De Flandres (d. 1439) married Johanna Van Reygervliet
9. Ludwig "Friese" De Flandres married Maria Van Ghistelles
10. Louis II, Count of Flanders had by unknown concubine #9
11. Margaret of France married Louis I, Count of Flanders
12. King Philip V of France married Jeanne Countess of Artois
Now, Ludwig "Friese" De Flandres was an illegitimate son of Louis II, Count of Flanders. Although I don't have the source handy, I understand that the lineage from Louis II, Count of Flanders to Marguerite De Flanders wife of Jean De Lannoy is to be found in Europaische Stammtafeln, Band III, Tafel 294.
appreciate any information that you have as I am descended from DuBois family.ToddHello Todd,
I just saw this discussion and was wondering where you found your information for the descent from King Phillip V? I keep running into an issue where Jean IV of Lannoy had Claudine de Lannoy with Philippine instead of Marguerite de Flanders. I would
Thank you,Have just discovered that I, too, am descended from Chretien Dubois through his son Louis, and Louis's daughter Sarah Dubois Van Meter. Wondering if any new data has emerged about this line's possible royal ancestry since last exchanges here about it.
Jessica d'Antignac
Sorry for the many spelling mistakes in my previous email , I wrote it fast before the start of a work commitment...Antoine, Thanks so much for your response. Will look over your information as soon as I can. My own royal dreams seem to be crumbling...I will proudly stick with my farmers from a number of countries...plus not a few reprobates LOL!
I have other detailed references on Chretien's real ancestors if anyone is interested, but on the Dubois side I am afraid we are not going further than Louis x Aliénore le Michel...
On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 5:11:33 AM UTC-5, antoin...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry for the many spelling mistakes in my previous email , I wrote it fast before the start of a work commitment...Antoine, Thanks so much for your response. Will look over your information as soon as I can. My own royal dreams seem to be crumbling...I will proudly stick with my farmers from a number of countries...plus not a few reprobates LOL!
I have other detailed references on Chretien's real ancestors if anyone is interested, but on the Dubois side I am afraid we are not going further than Louis x Aliénore le Michel...
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