On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 2:47:15 PM UTC-4, a.m...@share.epsb.ca wrote:

On Thursday, November 18, 2004 at 6:25:58 AM UTC-7, Vondo...@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:53:01 AM Eastern Standard Time, farm...@interfold.com writes:

We believe that many persons surnamed Moore, Muir, Morea

and Moorhead, received those names as a result of immigrating
to Britain from the Mediterranean, where Moro meant dark or
swarthy. Many were likely Sephardic Jews. They may also have
been Moors (i.e., Muslims) from Spain who left during the
Inquisition. '

Mór [Gaelic] means great, large, big &c., having nothing to

do with coloration. There were many families in Scotland named
Mure or Muir in the 13th century; there is also the well-known
Malcolm III, king of Scots, aka Máel Coluim Ceannmor [or Malcolm 'Canmore'], who died in 1093, well before any possible emigration
from Spain ca. 1492. Perhaps if the 'researchers' involved
could find that one document naming him as Malcolm mac Schwartz...>>>

I concur about the word mor [Gaelic]:

The Moir Family is Prominent in Aberdeen

Moir is from the Gaelic mòir, meaning "big." The surname is prominent in Aberdeen, where it is pronounced More (also an early spelling of the name). The
Irish form is Moran.

The Moirs are associated with the Gordon Clan. The Gordons were an Anglo-Norman family and they had lands in Berwickshire by the 12th century. Adam Gordon
was a follower of John, the Red Comyn. When Robert the Bruce killed Comyn, Adam Gordon then supported him and Robert made him an ambassador to the Pope in
1320, and gave him ythe old MacDuff lands at Strathbogie in Aberdeenshire, where the Huntley Castle stands.Some think that Muir and Moir are connected. Muir
is from the Gaelic mordha meaning "majestic." Muir also means moor or wasteland, which seems to contradict "majestic." Muir is one of the ten most prominent
names in Orkney.

Moran is the anglicization of two distinct Irish names, O'Mòran, from mòr and
O'Mughrdin. O'Mòrain is first found in Mayo County, near the modern town of
Ballina, where the eponymous (giving one's name to a clan) ancestor Mòran held
power.Robertus

More was an Aberdeen burgess in 1317. Reginald More was a canon of Aderdeen
in 1366. The name of the family of Moir of Stonywood was in the eighteenth century spelled Moer, More, and Moore.In Fairbairn's Crests of the Families of
Great Britian and Ireland there are the following references:

1. MOIRS WITH THE NEGRO"S HEAD INCLUDE:

.....Moir (Scottish) a negro's head Motto is: Non sibi, sed cunctis (Not just
for self, but for all).

.....Moir (Scottish) a negro's head, couped, proper. Motto: Mediocriter (with
moderation) or Sur experance (upon hope).

.....Moir (Scottish) a Mauritanian's head, couped, proper. Motto: Major opima
feret (Let the worthier carry off the prize).

.....Moir (Scottish) a Mauritanian's head couped (gutee-de-sang/gules, proper). Motto: Major opima feret (Let the worthier carry off the prize).

.....Moir of Otterburn has argent, three Moors heads couped proper without a
bordure counter-undented sable and or.

.....Moir of Stonniwood has argent three Mauritanian heads: copued and distilling guttes-de-sang/gules.

2. Robert-Graham Moir, Esquire of Lockie, Scotland, a falcon,proper., armed
and belled, or perching on a heron, lying on its back, proper, beaked, and membered, gules
Motto: Ne oublie.

3. Moir (Scottish), out of a cloud, ar arm, from shoulder, in hand a branch
of laurel, slipped.
Motto: Virtute non aliter (by virtue, not otherwise).

4. Moir (Scottish), a mort-head, with two legbones , in saltier proper. Motto: Non sibi, sed cunctia (For all, not himself).
This one would resemble the "Jolly Rodgers" or pirate flag. The Jolly Rodgers also has significance as a Knight's Templar symbol. Many legends point to
the Knights Templar in Scotland.

My own Moir connection:

GENERATION ONE:

John Clark and Isobel Moir were the parents of George Clark, who was christened on February 2, 1801 in Udny, Aberdeenshire, Scotland.

HERALDIC COLORS:

Or=gold (or yellow)
argent=silver (or white)
gules=red
vert=green
azure=blue
purpure=purple
sable=black

What is interesting is that the origin of many heraldric charges comes from
the Saracens and the Moors. For example, gules comes from the Persian gul, and
azure comes from the Persian lazurd.

The Mures of Caldwell were said to be descended from Reginald More, or Mure,
of Abercorn and Cowdams. Sir Reginald was Chamberlain of Scotland as early as
1329, in the first year of David II.

The arms of Muir of Caldwell and Muir of Rowallen were the two chief houses
of the name in Scotland. Emblazoned in 1540.

Caldwell: three muletts on a bend
Rowallen ate quatered the wheatsheaves of the Comyns.

The most ancient of the names was recorded as the Mores of Polkelly near Kilmarnock in Ayr County.

The male line of Polkelly left no heirs, thus the heir was passed, by marriage, to the Mores of Rowallan, who acquired their estate from the Lords Comyns.

Margaret Sypniewska
http://www.geocities.com/auch2000/Moir.html
(this site has the heraldic crests shown)

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