Is the any recent literature on the credibility of the Pictish kinglists?Reconsideration?email_work_card=view-paper
I saw mentionings of books and papers that focus on individual persons that might or might not be linked to historical persons, but not on a more scholarly work.
The last year or so I came across several papers on Academia that seriously reconstruct a parallel history that is difficult to accept for anyone thinking reasonable, for instance https://www.academia.edu/62735981/The_Legendary_Kings_of_the_Picts_a_
There are websites on Wikipedia on the subject but not with a disclaimer "beware fiction".
One site:
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/ https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict1.html https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/part2.html
was interesting reading but when one searches for more on the names
Heather Rose Jones and Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn
one ends up with (women sience-fiction and) fantasy and heraldry that take you to a different spectrum.
As the internet is a playground for anyone with or without knowledge I wonder if there is a scholarly work that deals with the subject in-depth.
Is the any recent literature on the credibility of the Pictish kinglists?Reconsideration?email_work_card=view-paper
I saw mentionings of books and papers that focus on individual persons that might or might not be linked to historical persons, but not on a more scholarly work.
The last year or so I came across several papers on Academia that seriously reconstruct a parallel history that is difficult to accept for anyone thinking reasonable, for instance https://www.academia.edu/62735981/The_Legendary_Kings_of_the_Picts_a_
There are websites on Wikipedia on the subject but not with a disclaimer "beware fiction".
One site:
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/ https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict1.html https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/part2.html
was interesting reading but when one searches for more on the names
Heather Rose Jones and Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn
one ends up with (women sience-fiction and) fantasy and heraldry that take you to a different spectrum.
As the internet is a playground for anyone with or without knowledge I wonder if there is a scholarly work that deals with the subject in-depth.
Hans Vogels
On 12-Jan-23 6:42 PM, Hans Vogels wrote:Reconsideration?email_work_card=view-paper
Is the any recent literature on the credibility of the Pictish kinglists? I saw mentionings of books and papers that focus on individual persons that might or might not be linked to historical persons, but not on a more scholarly work.
The last year or so I came across several papers on Academia that seriously reconstruct a parallel history that is difficult to accept for anyone thinking reasonable, for instance https://www.academia.edu/62735981/The_Legendary_Kings_of_the_Picts_a_
There are websites on Wikipedia on the subject but not with a disclaimer "beware fiction".
One site:
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/ https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict1.html https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/part2.html
was interesting reading but when one searches for more on the names Heather Rose Jones and Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn
one ends up with (women sience-fiction and) fantasy and heraldry that take you to a different spectrum.
As the internet is a playground for anyone with or without knowledge I wonder if there is a scholarly work that deals with the subject in-depth.You may find this from 2008 to be useful:
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/12600759/Royal_succession_and_kingship_among_the_Picts.pdf
Peter Stewart
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On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 11:42:26 PM UTC-8, hansvog...@gmail.com wrote:Reconsideration?email_work_card=view-paper
Is the any recent literature on the credibility of the Pictish kinglists? I saw mentionings of books and papers that focus on individual persons that might or might not be linked to historical persons, but not on a more scholarly work.
The last year or so I came across several papers on Academia that seriously reconstruct a parallel history that is difficult to accept for anyone thinking reasonable, for instance https://www.academia.edu/62735981/The_Legendary_Kings_of_the_Picts_a_
There are websites on Wikipedia on the subject but not with a disclaimer "beware fiction".
One site:
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/ https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict1.html https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/part2.html
was interesting reading but when one searches for more on the names Heather Rose Jones and Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn
one ends up with (women sience-fiction and) fantasy and heraldry that take you to a different spectrum.
As the internet is a playground for anyone with or without knowledge I wonder if there is a scholarly work that deals with the subject in-depth.
Hans VogelsHeather Rose Jones has a PhD in linguistics and studied medieval Welsh. She's good on names, but she isn't a historian of the Picts.
Op donderdag 12 januari 2023 om 12:04:18 UTC+1 schreef pss...@optusnet.com.au:Reconsideration?email_work_card=view-paper
On 12-Jan-23 6:42 PM, Hans Vogels wrote:
Is the any recent literature on the credibility of the Pictish kinglists? >>> I saw mentionings of books and papers that focus on individual persons that might or might not be linked to historical persons, but not on a more scholarly work.
The last year or so I came across several papers on Academia that seriously reconstruct a parallel history that is difficult to accept for anyone thinking reasonable, for instance https://www.academia.edu/62735981/The_Legendary_Kings_of_the_Picts_a_
You may find this from 2008 to be useful:
There are websites on Wikipedia on the subject but not with a disclaimer "beware fiction".
One site:
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict1.html
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/part2.html
was interesting reading but when one searches for more on the names
Heather Rose Jones and Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn
one ends up with (women sience-fiction and) fantasy and heraldry that take you to a different spectrum.
As the internet is a playground for anyone with or without knowledge I wonder if there is a scholarly work that deals with the subject in-depth.
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/12600759/Royal_succession_and_kingship_among_the_Picts.pdf
Peter Stewart
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Thank you Peter,
This is a indeed a worthwhile paper.
Given the complexity of even trying to interpretate and reconstruct the 'historical period'
everything on the (here casually mentioned) prehistoric period looks to me highly speculative.
On 13-Jan-23 6:51 AM, Hans Vogels wrote:Reconsideration?email_work_card=view-paper
Op donderdag 12 januari 2023 om 12:04:18 UTC+1 schreef pss...@optusnet.com.au:
On 12-Jan-23 6:42 PM, Hans Vogels wrote:
Is the any recent literature on the credibility of the Pictish kinglists?
I saw mentionings of books and papers that focus on individual persons that might or might not be linked to historical persons, but not on a more scholarly work.
The last year or so I came across several papers on Academia that seriously reconstruct a parallel history that is difficult to accept for anyone thinking reasonable, for instance https://www.academia.edu/62735981/The_Legendary_Kings_of_the_Picts_a_
You may find this from 2008 to be useful:
There are websites on Wikipedia on the subject but not with a disclaimer "beware fiction".
One site:
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/pictnames/pict1.html
https://www.s-gabriel.org/names/tangwystyl/british1000/part2.html
was interesting reading but when one searches for more on the names
Heather Rose Jones and Tangwystyl verch Morgant Glasvryn
one ends up with (women sience-fiction and) fantasy and heraldry that take you to a different spectrum.
As the internet is a playground for anyone with or without knowledge I wonder if there is a scholarly work that deals with the subject in-depth.
https://www.pure.ed.ac.uk/ws/portalfiles/portal/12600759/Royal_succession_and_kingship_among_the_Picts.pdf
Peter Stewart
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Thank you Peter,
This is a indeed a worthwhile paper.If you have access to JSTOR (or a library holding it) this book may be
Given the complexity of even trying to interpretate and reconstruct the 'historical period'
everything on the (here casually mentioned) prehistoric period looks to me highly speculative.
of further interest:
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.3366/j.ctt1r28q5
Peter Stewart
But meanwhile I noticed that James E Fraser wrote in 2011 a paper titled: From ancient Scythia to The Problem of the Picts.
The paper probably deals with the fantasy part that precedes the Pictish Kinglists.
It's not on Academia and I asked James Fraser if he cared to upload it to Academia.
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