• Chris Martin of Coldplay

    From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 6 10:39:56 2023
    The descent from Henry 7 goes through a known and documented line down to

    Charles Drummond b 24 Jun 1759
    m 26 Jul 1780
    Frances Dorothy Lockwood
    third daughter of Rev Edward Lockwood

    This birthdate and marriage date and spouses from Lodge's Peerage 1839

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Peerage_of_the_British_Empire_as_at/eITUAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=charles%20drummond%20frances%20lockwood&pg=PA469&printsec=frontcover

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Fri Jan 6 10:48:59 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:39:57 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    The descent from Henry 7 goes through a known and documented line down to

    Charles Drummond b 24 Jun 1759
    m 26 Jul 1780
    Frances Dorothy Lockwood
    third daughter of Rev Edward Lockwood

    This birthdate and marriage date and spouses from Lodge's Peerage 1839

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Peerage_of_the_British_Empire_as_at/eITUAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=charles%20drummond%20frances%20lockwood&pg=PA469&printsec=frontcover

    We also see there the child Maurice claimed in the wiki pedigree born 1825

    That this Maurice married Adelaide Lister

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Annual_Register/fbd3_-8tSJAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=maurice%20drummond%20c.b.&pg=RA1-PA161&printsec=frontcover

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Fri Jan 6 10:50:59 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:49:01 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:39:57 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    The descent from Henry 7 goes through a known and documented line down to

    Charles Drummond b 24 Jun 1759
    m 26 Jul 1780
    Frances Dorothy Lockwood
    third daughter of Rev Edward Lockwood

    This birthdate and marriage date and spouses from Lodge's Peerage 1839

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Peerage_of_the_British_Empire_as_at/eITUAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=charles%20drummond%20frances%20lockwood&pg=PA469&printsec=frontcover
    We also see there the child Maurice claimed in the wiki pedigree born 1825

    That this Maurice married Adelaide Lister

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Annual_Register/fbd3_-8tSJAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=maurice%20drummond%20c.b.&pg=RA1-PA161&printsec=frontcover


    That they then had a child Miriam married to this Hayter

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Honourable_Adelaide_Drummond/f8UEAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=miriam%20drummond%20maurice%20lister&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Fri Jan 6 10:54:59 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:51:01 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:49:01 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:39:57 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    The descent from Henry 7 goes through a known and documented line down to

    Charles Drummond b 24 Jun 1759
    m 26 Jul 1780
    Frances Dorothy Lockwood
    third daughter of Rev Edward Lockwood

    This birthdate and marriage date and spouses from Lodge's Peerage 1839

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Peerage_of_the_British_Empire_as_at/eITUAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=charles%20drummond%20frances%20lockwood&pg=PA469&printsec=frontcover
    We also see there the child Maurice claimed in the wiki pedigree born 1825

    That this Maurice married Adelaide Lister

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Annual_Register/fbd3_-8tSJAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=maurice%20drummond%20c.b.&pg=RA1-PA161&printsec=frontcover
    That they then had a child Miriam married to this Hayter

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Honourable_Adelaide_Drummond/f8UEAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=miriam%20drummond%20maurice%20lister&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover


    This line by the by represents an addition to Genealogics as well

    https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057791&tree=LEO

    We don't here see the child Mary Dulcibella Eden

    It also represents a new Cecil descent as Charles Drummon b 1790 "eldest son and heir" whom she married is a 10th generation descendant.

    And a new James 4 of Scotland descent as Maurice Drummond is equally descending (12 generations) from both Henry 7 and James 4

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  • From Leslie Mahler@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Fri Jan 6 12:13:01 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:55:01 AM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:51:01 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:49:01 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:39:57 AM UTC-8, Will Johnson wrote:
    The descent from Henry 7 goes through a known and documented line down to

    Charles Drummond b 24 Jun 1759
    m 26 Jul 1780
    Frances Dorothy Lockwood
    third daughter of Rev Edward Lockwood

    This birthdate and marriage date and spouses from Lodge's Peerage 1839

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Peerage_of_the_British_Empire_as_at/eITUAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=charles%20drummond%20frances%20lockwood&pg=PA469&printsec=frontcover
    We also see there the child Maurice claimed in the wiki pedigree born 1825

    That this Maurice married Adelaide Lister

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/Annual_Register/fbd3_-8tSJAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=maurice%20drummond%20c.b.&pg=RA1-PA161&printsec=frontcover
    That they then had a child Miriam married to this Hayter

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Honourable_Adelaide_Drummond/f8UEAAAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=miriam%20drummond%20maurice%20lister&pg=PA4&printsec=frontcover
    This line by the by represents an addition to Genealogics as well

    https://www.genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00057791&tree=LEO

    We don't here see the child Mary Dulcibella Eden

    It also represents a new Cecil descent as Charles Drummon b 1790 "eldest son and heir" whom she married is a 10th generation descendant.

    And a new James 4 of Scotland descent as Maurice Drummond is equally descending (12 generations) from both Henry 7 and James 4


    Note that the documentation for the recent generations of the Fleming family
    is unavailable.

    Leslie

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  • From Brad Verity@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Thu Jan 12 18:29:39 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:39:57 AM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    The descent from Henry 7 goes through a known and documented line down to Charles Drummond b 24 Jun 1759

    I’ve completed entering Chris Martin of Coldplay into my database of Edward I descendants. As Leslie, Will and others have posted, Martin descends from Henry VII. There are two lines from that monarch, one from James V of Scotland. I lay out both lines
    below, with as much detail as I was able to research, on the more recent generations.

    It doesn’t appear that Chris Martin has been included in the second edition of Royal Descents of 900 Immigrants. But as the rock musician currently lives in Malibu, California (and is apparently a close friend of Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, fellow
    resident of Southern California), it seems he would qualify as an addition to a future edition of that series.

    Chris Martin has quite an ancestry, which would make an excellent entry in the 'Who Do You Think You Are' television series.

    Henry VII had a grandson A1 and a daughter B1 (see below):
    A1) James V, King of Scotland = Euphemia Elphinstone, and had
    A2) Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney, illegit. (1533-1593) m. Lady Janet Kennedy, and had
    A3) Lady Jean Stewart (c.1565-aft.1642) m. Patrick Leslie, 1st Lord Lindores (c.1557-1608, descended from James II of Scotland), and had
    A4) Hon. Margaret Leslie (b. c.1600) m. John Drummond, 2nd Lord Maderty (c.1580-by 1651, descended from James IV), and had
    A5) Hon. Jean Drummond (b. c.1625) m. Patrick Graeme, 5th Laird of Inchbrakie Castle (c.1610-1687, descended from James II of Scotland), and had
    A6) Margaret Graeme (c.1644-1704) m. Robert, 1st Lord Nairne (c.1620-1683), and had
    A7) Hon. MARGARET NAIRNE, b. 16 Dec. 1669; d. 14 Nov. 1747, bur. Auchtergaven Parish Kirk, Perthshire, Scotland; m. (contract 18 Jan.) 1690, WILLIAM [MURRAY] NAIRNE, 2nd Lord Nairne (see B below), and had
    A8) Hon. MARGARET NAIRNE, b. 19 Aug. 1692; d. 28 May 1773 Machany House, Blackford, Perthshire; m. (contract 1 Nov.) 1712, WILLIAM DRUMMOND, 4th Viscount Strathallan (b. c.1686 Machany House; k. 16 Apr. 1646 Culloden Moor, Inverness-shire, Scotland), son
    of Sir John Drummond, 3rd of Machany House (c.1650-1707, descended from James IV) & Margaret Stewart (descended from Edward III), and had
    A9) Hon. ROBERT DRUMMOND of Cadland House, Hampshire, banker, b. 13 Nov. 1728 Machany House, bap. 14 Nov. 1728 Blackford Parish Kirk, Perthshire; d. 19 Jan. 1804 Cleveland Row, London, bur. 26 Jan. 1804 St James Church, Westminster; m. 22 Apr. 1753 St
    Martin in the Fields, London, WINIFRED MARY THOMPSON (b. c.1733; d. 2 Apr. 1791 London, bur. 9 Apr. 1791 St Pancras Old Church, London), dau of William Thompson of Leicester Square, London (d. 1760) & Mary Lucy Lucy (d. 1782, descended from Edward III),
    and had
    A10) CHARLES DRUMMOND of Charing Cross, London, banker, b. 24 June 1759, bap. 12 July 1759 St Martin in the Fields, London; d. 2 Mar. 1823 Charing Cross, bur. 8 Mar. 1823 St Martin in the Fields; m. 26 July 1789 St James Church, Westminster, FRANCES
    DOROTHY LOCKWOOD (b. 20 Dec. 1763 Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire, bap. 27 Dec. 1763 St John the Baptist Church, Kingsthorpe; d. 24 Feb. 1831 Stratford Place, London, bur. 1 Mar. 1831 St Martin in the Fields), dau of Rev. Edward Lockwood of Dews Hall,
    rector of St Peter Northampton (1719-1802, descended from Henry IV) & Lucy Dowdeswell (1729-1764), and had
    A11) CHARLES DRUMMOND of Charing Cross, banker, b. 4 Sept. 1790 Westminster, London, bap. 6 Oct. 1790 St Margaret Church, Westminster; d. 23 Aug. 1858 Brighton, Sussex, bur. 28 Aug. 1858 St George Churchyard, Beckenham, Kent; m. 15 July 1819 St George
    Hanover Square, London, Hon. MARY DULCIBELLA EDEN (b. 1 Sept. 1793 Old Palace Yard, Westminster, London; d. 20 Mar. 1862 Linden Grove, Notting Hill, London, bur. 25 Mar. 1862 St George Churchyard, Beckenham), dau of William Eden, 1st Baron Auckland (1744-
    1814, descended from Edward III) & Eleanor Elliot (c.1758-1818, descended from James IV), and had
    A12) MAURICE DRUMMOND of Hampstead, Middlesex, Receiver Metropolitan Police 1860-83, b. 9 July 1825 Grosvenor Place, London, bap. 8 Aug. 1825 St George Hanover Square; d. 18 May 1891 21 Broadhurst Gardens, South Hampstead, bur. 21 May 1891 Highgate
    Cemetery, London; m. 12 Jan. 1847 St Paul Knightsbridge, London, Hon. ADELAIDE LISTER (b. 14 May 1827 Gisburne House, Yorkshire, bap. 27 May 1827 St Mary Church, Gisburn; d. 27 Apr. 1911 Hampstead Square, bur. 2 May 1911 St John Church, Hampstead), dau
    of Thomas Lister, 2nd Baron Ribblesdale (1790-1832, descended from Edward III) & Adelaide Lister (1806-1838, descended from Edward III), and had

    Four years after the death of Hon. Adelaide (Lister) Drummond, her memoirs were published, dedicated to her children and grandchildren. Among her recollections was her attendance at the wedding of Queen Victoria to Prince Albert at St James Palace in
    1840 when she was twelve years old. https://archive.org/details/honourableadelai00cham/page/n9/mode/2up

    A13) MIRIAM FRANCES LILIAN DRUMMOND, b. 1 July 1860 Frognal, Hampstead, bap. 11 Aug. 1860 Christ Church, Hampstead; d. 22 Mar. 1931 88 Queens Gate, South Kensington, London; m. 27 Apr. 1886 St Mark Hamilton Terrace, St Johns Wood, London, GEORGE JOHN
    BARRY HAYTER of Earls Court, London, bank clerk (b. 31 Jan. 1852 Haverstock Hill, Hampstead, bap. 27 Apr. 1852 St Marylebone Parish Church, London; d. 29 Sept. 1942 Newlands Nursing Home, Rake, Hampshire), son of John Hayter of Cavendish Square, London,
    portrait artist (1800-1895) & Augusta Bramley (c.1809-1874), and had

    The Hayters were not a landed gentry family, rather they were very prominent artists. The father John Hayter and grandfather Charles Hayter of this George Hayter, were both portrait painters and have entries in Wikipedia. His paternal uncle Sir George
    Hayter (1792-1871) was appointed Principal painter in Ordinary by Queen Victoria, and has an entry in the ODNB.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hayter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hayter https://www.oxforddnb.com/display/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-12785?rskey=GcEpcQ&result=1

    A14) IVY CHRISTABEL ADELAIDE TUKE HAYTER, b. 16 Feb. 1895 Wigmore Street, London, bap. 16 Mar. 1895 St Mary Magdalene Munster Square, London; d. 28 Mar. 1986 Bedhampton, Hampshire; m. 11 June 1917 St Peter Cranley Gardens, Kensington, London, BASIL
    RUPERT WILLETT, CBE, DSC, of Bedhampton, Captain Royal Navy (b. 23 July 1896 Chislehurst, Kent, bap. 16 Mar. 1907 St John Church, Meads, Eastbourne, Sussex; d. 29 June 1966 Havant War Memorial Hospital, Hampshire), son of William Willett of Chislehurst,
    building contractor (1856-1915) & Maria Mills (1858-1905), and had

    Ivy (Hayter) Willett can be found on p. 535 of Ruvigny’s Tudor volume (1903). Her father-in-law, William Willett, introduced the idea of Daylight Saving Time in Britain in 1907, and has an entry in the ODNB:
    https://www.oxforddnb.com/display/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-36912?rskey=U8yfg9&result=3
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/when-clocks-change-2022-march-go-forward-uk-summer-time

    A15) GILLIAN MARY ELFRIDA WILLETT, b. 24 Oct. 1922 Honiton, Devon, bap. 17 Apr. 1923 St Mary & St Peter Church, Salcombe Regis, Devon; deceased [presumably]; m. 12 Apr. 1947 St Thomas Church, Bedhampton, Hampshire, Maj. RICHARD WALLACE FLEMING, MBE, of
    Braemar Farm, Mashonaland East Province, Zimbabwe, farmer (b. 24 Oct. 1914 Hartley Wintley, Hampshire; d. 1999[?]), son of George Norval Fleming of Gilston Farm, Zimbabwe, farmer (1872-1961) & Ethel Sackville Reed (1873-1962, descended from Edward I),
    and had

    I was unable to find online exact dates of death for Gillian (Willett) Fleming and her husband, Maj. Richard Wallace Fleming. Some family trees on Ancestry give his year of death as 1999. It is just possible that Gillian is still with us, though as she
    would be age 100, this is unlikely. Presumably both she and her husband died in Zimbabwe. She had two brothers, William Basil Willett (1919-1976) and George Willett (1930-2022), who both married and have children living.

    A16) ALISON FLEMING, b. 15 Dec. 1952 Salisbury [now Harare], Southern Rhodesia [now Zimbabwe]; m. by 1976 (divorce 2011), ANTHONY JOHN MARTIN of Whitestone House, Exeter Devon, chartered accountant (b. Apr. 1941 Exeter, Devon), son of John Besley Martin,
    CBE, of Exeter, coach rental company founder (1906-1982) & Muriel Pattison (1916-2002), and had

    John Besley Martin was the Mayor of Exeter 1968-69, and a prominent figure in that Devon town. His paternal ancestors were farmers in Devon. I could not locate an entry for the marriage of Alison Fleming and Anthony Martin in the England & Wales BMD
    Index. It’s possible they were married in Zimbabwe. There is an online article on the parents, children and siblings of Chris Martin, from 2018:
    https://bodyheightweight.com/chris-martin-family/

    The elder brother of Alison (Fleming) Martin, Angus George Fleming (1951-2007), can be found on The Peerage website:
    https://www.thepeerage.com/p43993.htm#i439923

    A17) CHRISTOPHER ANTHONY JOHN MARTIN of Malibu, Los Angeles County, Calif., rock musician, co-founder and lead singer of the band Coldplay, b. 2 Mar. 1977 Exeter, Devon; married (and divorced) American actress Gwyneth Paltrow, and has issue, one son and
    one daughter
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Martin

    I'll detail the descent from Edward I, for Maj. Richard Wallace Fleming (1914-1999), maternal grandfather of Chris Martin, in another post.

    Cheers, -----Brad

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  • From Brad Verity@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Thu Jan 12 19:11:00 2023
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:39:57 AM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    The descent from Henry 7 goes through a known and documented line down to Charles Drummond b 24 Jun 1759

    I’ve completed entering Chris Martin of Coldplay into my database of Edward I descendants. As Leslie, Will and others have posted, Martin descends from Henry VII. There are two lines from that monarch, one from James V of Scotland. I lay out both lines
    below, with as much detail as I was able to research, on the more recent generations.

    It doesn’t appear that Chris Martin has been included in the second edition of Royal Descents of 900 Immigrants. But as the rock musician currently lives in Malibu, California (and is apparently a close friend of Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, fellow
    resident of Southern California), it seems he would qualify as an addition to a future edition of that series.

    Chris Martin has a fascinating ancestry, which would make an excellent episode for the 'Who Do You Think You Are' television series. Gwyneth Paltrow was featured in the series a few seasons back.

    Henry VII had a grandson A1 and a daughter B1 (see below):
    A1) James V, King of Scotland = Euphemia Elphinstone, and had
    A2) Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney, illegit. (1533-1593) m. Lady Janet Kennedy, and had
    A3) Lady Jean Stewart (c.1565-aft.1642) m. Patrick Leslie, 1st Lord Lindores (c.1557-1608, descended from James II of Scotland), and had
    A4) Hon. Margaret Leslie (b. c.1600) m. John Drummond, 2nd Lord Maderty (c.1580-by 1651, descended from James IV), and had
    A5) Hon. Jean Drummond (b. c.1625) m. Patrick Graeme, 5th Laird of Inchbrakie Castle (c.1610-1687, descended from James II of Scotland), and had
    A6) Margaret Graeme (c.1644-1704) m. Robert, 1st Lord Nairne (c.1620-1683), and had
    A7) Hon. MARGARET NAIRNE, b. 16 Dec. 1669; d. 14 Nov. 1747, bur. Auchtergaven Parish Kirk, Perthshire, Scotland; m. (contract 18 Jan.) 1690, WILLIAM [MURRAY] NAIRNE, 2nd Lord Nairne (see B7 below), and had
    A8) Hon. MARGARET NAIRNE, b. 19 Aug. 1692; d. 28 May 1773 Machany House, Blackford, Perthshire; m. (contract 1 Nov.) 1712, WILLIAM DRUMMOND, 4th Viscount Strathallan (b. c.1686 Machany House; k. 16 Apr. 1646 Culloden Moor, Inverness-shire, Scotland), son
    of Sir John Drummond, 3rd of Machany House (c.1650-1707, descended from James IV) & Margaret Stewart (descended from Edward III), and had
    A9) Hon. ROBERT DRUMMOND of Cadland House, Hampshire, banker, b. 13 Nov. 1728 Machany House, bap. 14 Nov. 1728 Blackford Parish Kirk, Perthshire; d. 19 Jan. 1804 Cleveland Row, London, bur. 26 Jan. 1804 St James Church, Westminster; m. 22 Apr. 1753 St
    Martin in the Fields, London, WINIFRED MARY THOMPSON (b. c.1733; d. 2 Apr. 1791 London, bur. 9 Apr. 1791 St Pancras Old Church, London), dau of William Thompson of Leicester Square, London (d. 1760) & Mary Lucy Lucy (d. 1782, descended from Edward III),
    and had
    A10) CHARLES DRUMMOND of Charing Cross, London, banker, b. 24 June 1759, bap. 12 July 1759 St Martin in the Fields, London; d. 2 Mar. 1823 Charing Cross, bur. 8 Mar. 1823 St Martin in the Fields; m. 26 July 1789 St James Church, Westminster, FRANCES
    DOROTHY LOCKWOOD (b. 20 Dec. 1763 Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire, bap. 27 Dec. 1763 St John the Baptist Church, Kingsthorpe; d. 24 Feb. 1831 Stratford Place, London, bur. 1 Mar. 1831 St Martin in the Fields), dau of Rev. Edward Lockwood of Dews Hall,
    Lambourne, Essex, rector of St Peter Northampton (1719-1802, descended from Henry IV) & Lucy Dowdeswell (1729-1764), and had
    A11) CHARLES DRUMMOND of Charing Cross, banker, b. 4 Sept. 1790 Westminster, London, bap. 6 Oct. 1790 St Margaret Church, Westminster; d. 23 Aug. 1858 Brighton, Sussex, bur. 28 Aug. 1858 St George Churchyard, Beckenham, Kent; m. 15 July 1819 St George
    Hanover Square, London, Hon. MARY DULCIBELLA EDEN (b. 1 Sept. 1793 Old Palace Yard, Westminster, London; d. 20 Mar. 1862 Linden Grove, Notting Hill, London, bur. 25 Mar. 1862 St George Churchyard, Beckenham), dau of William Eden, 1st Baron Auckland (1744-
    1814, descended from Edward III) & Eleanor Elliot (c.1758-1818, descended from James IV), and had
    A12) MAURICE DRUMMOND of Hampstead, Middlesex, Receiver Metropolitan Police 1860-83, b. 9 July 1825 Grosvenor Place, London, bap. 8 Aug. 1825 St George Hanover Square; d. 18 May 1891 21 Broadhurst Gardens, South Hampstead, bur. 21 May 1891 Highgate
    Cemetery, London; m. 12 Jan. 1847 St Paul Knightsbridge, London, Hon. ADELAIDE LISTER (b. 14 May 1827 Gisburne House, Yorkshire, bap. 27 May 1827 St Mary Church, Gisburn; d. 27 Apr. 1911 Hampstead Square, bur. 2 May 1911 St John Church, Hampstead), dau
    of Thomas Lister, 2nd Baron Ribblesdale (1790-1832, descended from Edward III) & Adelaide Lister (1806-1838, descended from Edward III), and had

    Four years after the death of Hon. Adelaide (Lister) Drummond, her memoirs were published, dedicated to her children and grandchildren. Among her recollections was her attendance at the wedding of Queen Victoria to Prince Albert at St James Palace in
    1840 when she was twelve years old. https://archive.org/details/honourableadelai00cham/page/n9/mode/2up

    A13) MIRIAM FRANCES LILIAN DRUMMOND, b. 1 July 1860 Frognal, Hampstead, bap. 11 Aug. 1860 Christ Church, Hampstead; d. 22 Mar. 1931 88 Queens Gate, South Kensington, London; m. 27 Apr. 1886 St Mark Hamilton Terrace, St Johns Wood, London, GEORGE JOHN
    BARRY HAYTER of Earls Court, London, bank clerk (b. 31 Jan. 1852 Haverstock Hill, Hampstead, bap. 27 Apr. 1852 St Marylebone Parish Church, London; d. 29 Sept. 1942 Newlands Nursing Home, Rake, Hampshire), son of John Hayter of Cavendish Square, London,
    portrait artist (1800-1895) & Augusta Bramley (c.1809-1874), and had

    The Hayters were not a landed gentry family, rather they were very prominent artists. The father John Hayter and grandfather Charles Hayter of this George Hayter, were both portrait painters and have entries in Wikipedia. His paternal uncle Sir George
    Hayter (1792-1871) was appointed Principal painter in Ordinary by Queen Victoria, and has an entry in the ODNB.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hayter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hayter https://www.oxforddnb.com/display/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-12785?rskey=GcEpcQ&result=1

    A14) IVY CHRISTABEL ADELAIDE TUKE HAYTER, b. 16 Feb. 1895 Wigmore Street, London, bap. 16 Mar. 1895 St Mary Magdalene Munster Square, London; d. 28 Mar. 1986 Bedhampton, Hampshire; m. 11 June 1917 St Peter Cranley Gardens, Kensington, London, BASIL
    RUPERT WILLETT, CBE, DSC, of Bedhampton, Captain Royal Navy (b. 23 July 1896 Chislehurst, Kent, bap. 16 Mar. 1907 St John Church, Meads, Eastbourne, Sussex; d. 29 June 1966 Havant War Memorial Hospital, Hampshire), son of William Willett of Chislehurst,
    building contractor (1856-1915) & Maria Mills (1858-1905), and had

    Ivy (Hayter) Willett can be found on p. 535 of Ruvigny’s Tudor volume (1903). Her father-in-law, William Willett, introduced the idea of Daylight Saving Time in Britain in 1907, and has an entry in the ODNB:
    https://www.oxforddnb.com/display/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-36912?rskey=U8yfg9&result=3
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/when-clocks-change-2022-march-go-forward-uk-summer-time

    A15) GILLIAN MARY ELFRIDA WILLETT, b. 24 Oct. 1922 Honiton, Devon, bap. 17 Apr. 1923 St Mary & St Peter Church, Salcombe Regis, Devon; deceased [presumably]; m. 12 Apr. 1947 St Thomas Church, Bedhampton, Hampshire, Maj. RICHARD WALLACE FLEMING, MBE, of
    Braemar Farm, Mashonaland East Province, Zimbabwe, farmer (b. 24 Oct. 1914 Hartley Wintley, Hampshire; d. 1999[?]), son of George Norval Fleming of Gilston Farm, Zimbabwe, farmer (1872-1961) & Ethel Sackville Reed (1873-1962, descended from Edward I),
    and had

    I was unable to find online exact dates of death for Gillian (Willett) Fleming and her husband, Maj. Richard Wallace Fleming. Some family trees on Ancestry give his year of death as 1999. It is just possible that Gillian is still with us, though as she
    would be age 100, this is unlikely. Presumably both she and her husband died in Zimbabwe. She had two brothers, William Basil Willett (1919-1976) and George Willett (1930-2022), who both married and have children living.

    A16) ALISON FLEMING, b. 15 Dec. 1952 Salisbury [now Harare], Southern Rhodesia [now Zimbabwe]; m. by 1976 (divorce 2011), ANTHONY JOHN MARTIN of Whitestone House, Exeter Devon, chartered accountant (b. Apr. 1941 Exeter, Devon), son of John Besley Martin,
    CBE, of Exeter, coach rental company founder (1906-1982) & Muriel Pattison (1916-2002), and had

    John Besley Martin was the Mayor of Exeter 1968-69, and a prominent figure in that Devon town. His paternal ancestors were farmers in Devon. I could not locate an entry for the marriage of Alison Fleming and Anthony Martin in the England & Wales BMD
    Index. It’s possible they were married in Zimbabwe. There is an online article on the parents, children and siblings of Chris Martin, from 2018:
    https://bodyheightweight.com/chris-martin-family/

    The elder brother of Alison (Fleming) Martin, Angus George Fleming (1951-2007), can be found on The Peerage website:
    https://www.thepeerage.com/p43993.htm#i439923

    A17) CHRISTOPHER ANTHONY JOHN MARTIN of Malibu, Los Angeles County, Calif., rock musician, co-founder and lead singer of the band Coldplay, b. 2 Mar. 1977 Exeter, Devon; married (and divorced) American actress Gwyneth Paltrow, and has issue, one son and
    one daughter
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Martin

    B1) Princess Mary Tudor (1496-1533) m. 2) Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk, and had
    B2) Lady Eleanor Brandon (1519-1547) m. Henry Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland (c.1517-1570, descended from Edward III), and had
    B3) Lady Margaret Clifford (1540-1596) m. Henry Stanley, 4th Earl of Derby (1531-1593, descended from Edward III), and had
    B4) William Stanley, 6th Earl of Derby (1561-1642) m. Lady Elizabeth de Vere (1575-1627, descended from Edward I), and had
    B5) James Stanley, 7th Earl of Derby (1606-1651) m. 2) Charlotte de La Trémoille (1599-1664, descended from Frederick IV of Naples), and had
    B6) Lady Amelia Anne Sophia Stanley (1633-1703) m. John Murray, 1st Marquess of Atholl (1631-1703, descended from James IV), and had
    B7) WILLIAM [MURRAY] NAIRNE, 2nd Lord Nairne, 1st Earl Nairne [Jacobite], b. 10 Dec. 1664; d. 3 Feb. 1726 Nairne House, Auchtergaven, Perthshire, bur. Auchtergaven Parish Kirk; m. (contract 18 Jan.) 1690, Hon. MARGARET NAIRNE (see A7 above)
    https://www.oxforddnb.com/display/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-19729?rskey=V0f7Wn&result=13



    I'll detail the descent from Edward I, for Maj. Richard Wallace Fleming (1914-1999), maternal grandfather of Chris Martin, in another post.

    Cheers, -----Brad

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  • From Brad Verity@21:1/5 to Brad Verity on Thu Jan 12 23:19:30 2023
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-8, Brad Verity wrote:
    I'll detail the descent from Edward I, for Maj. Richard Wallace Fleming (1914-1999), maternal grandfather of Chris Martin, in another post.

    There are several lines of descent from Edward I for Maj. Fleming.

    Below is one, with full details on the more recent generations.

    Edward I had a dau:
    1) Princess Elizabeth, Countess of Hereford (1282-1316), who had
    2) Lady Eleanor de Bohun, Countess of Ormonde (c.1310-1363), who had
    3) Lady Petronilla Butler, Lady Talbot (c.1335-1368), who had
    4) Richard, 4th Lord Talbot (by 1361-1396), who had
    5) Alice Talbot (c.1393-1436) m. 1) Sir Thomas Barre, heir of Rotherwas, and had
    6) Elizabeth Barre (c.1414-1468) m. Sir Edmund Cornewall, heir of Burford, and had
    7) Eleanor Cornewall (c.1435-1519) m. 2) Sir Richard Croft of Croft Castle, and had
    8) Jane Croft (d. by 1492) m. Sir Edward Darrell of Littlecote, and had
    9) Jane Darrell m. Sir Anthony Hungerford of Down Ampney (by 1492-1558), and had
    10) Sir John Hungerford of Down Ampney (by 1516-1582) m. 1) Bridget Fettiplace, and had
    11) Henry Hungerford of Great Marston (c.1550-1582) m. Elizabeth ---, and had 12) Anne Hungerford m. Sir Gabriel Lowe of Newark (c.1580-c.1659), and had
    13) Mary Lowe (c.1621-1663) m. Robert Ducie of Little Aston Hall (c.1619-1654), and had
    14) Elizabeth Ducie m. Edward Moreton of Engleton Hall (1634-1687), and had
    15) Mary Moreton (d. 1748) m. Richard Cresswell of Sidbury Hall (c.1660-1723), and had
    16) Richard Cresswell of Pinkney Park (1688-1743) m. 1) Elizabeth Estcourt (d. 1717, descended from Edward I), and had

    A line of descent from Edward I, for Sackville Bawden Cresswell of Lower Weedon, Northamptonshire (1849-1897) and for Joseph G. Cresswell, of Philadelphia, USA, thru Elizabeth (Estcourt) Cresswell (d. 1717 – see Generation 16 above), was laid out by
    Joseph Foster, ‘The Royal Lineage of our Noble and Gentle Families’ (1887), pp. 129-134:
    https://archive.org/details/royallineageofou01fost/page/n101/mode/2up

    The Estcourt family is covered in ‘Oswald (formerly Estcourt) formerly of Pinkney’ in BLG 17th Edn (1956), p. 1942.

    17) THOMAS ESTCOURT CRESSWELL of Pinkney Park House, Sherston, Wiltshire, M.P. Wootton Bassett 1754-74, b. 12 July 1712 Pinkney Park House, bap. 22 July 1712 Holy Cross Church, Sherston; d. 14 Nov. 1788, bur. 24 Nov. 1788 Holy Cross Church, Sherston); m.
    6 Feb. 144 St Mary Church, Bibury, Gloucestershire, ANNE WARNEFORD (b. c.1716; d. 12 Apr. 1791 Bath, Somersetshire, dau of Edward Warneford of Sevenhampton (d. 1724) & Elizabeth Sackville (1688-1756, descended from Edward I), and had
    https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1754-1790/member/cresswell-thomas-estcourt-1712-88

    18) ESTCOURT CRESSWELL of Pinkney Park House, M.P. Cirencester 1768-1774, b. 10 May 1745 Pinkney Park House, bap. 29 May 1745 Holy Cross Church, Sherston; d. 5 July 1823 Bath, Somersetshire); m. 2) 14 Aug. 1781, MARY GREGORY (b. 25 Feb. 1757; d. 12 Nov.
    1815 Pinkney Park House, bur. 20 Nov. 1815 Holy Cross Church, Sherston), dau of Thomas Gregory of Sherston, and had
    https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1754-1790/member/cresswell-estcourt-1745-1823

    19) RICHARD ESTCOURT CRESSWELL of Pinkney Park House, barrister-at-law, b. 5 Oct. 1781; d. 21 Mar. 1841 Saint Venant, Pas-de-Calais, France, bur. 1 Apr. 1841 Holy Cross Churchyard, Sherston; m. 24 May 1803, ELIZABETH COXWELL (b. 22 Aug. 1779, bap. 23
    Sept. 1779 St Mary Church, Barnsley, Gloucestershire; d. 26 Aug. 1860 Woburn Place, Bloomsbury, London), dau. of Rev. Charles Coxwell of Ablington House, rector of Barnsley (1740-1829) & Mary Small (1745-1833), and had
    20) WILLIAM HENRY CRESSWELL of Pinkney Park House, b. 14 Oct. 1817 Southampton, Hampshire, bap. 1 May 1822 St Mary Church, Bibury, Gloucestershire; d. 19 Feb. 1880 Queen Square, Bath, Somersetshire, bur. 25 Feb. 1880 Holy Cross Churchyard, Sherston; m.
    1st 21 Sept. 1841 Manchester Cathedral, Lancashire, ELIZABETH TAYLOR MAWSON (b. Richmond Row, Liverpool, Lancashire, bap. 7 Aug. 1820 St Peter Church, Liverpool; d. 6 Nov. 1873 Saint-Brieuc, Brittany, France), dau of Thomas Mawson of Liverpool, cotton
    merchant clerk (c.1800-1829) & Charlotte Quiggin (1799-1831), and had

    The Cresswell family is covered in BLG 18th Edn Vol. 2 (1969) in ‘Cresswell of Charingworth formerly of Pinkney’, p. 119.

    21) ELIZABETH SACKVILLE CRESSWELL, b. 1845 Wargrave, Berkshire, bap. 23 Jan. 1846 St Mary Church, Wargrave; d. 15 Aug. 1935 Gilston Farm, Mashonaland East Province, Southern Rhodesia [now Zimbabwe], Africa, bur. Mbare West Cemetery, Salisbury [now Harare]
    , Zimbabwe; m. 9 Feb. 1870 Holy Cross Church, Sherston, as his 2nd wife, Maj. JOHN THOMAS LEIGH REED of Kintbury, Berkshire, Major Wiltshire Regiment (bap. 4 Aug. 1827 St Peter & St Paul Church, Marlborough, Wiltshire; d. 7 May 1879 The Elms, St
    Margarets, Marlborough), son of Nehemiah John Reed of Marlborough, Captain Royal Navy & brewer (1792-1875) & Mary Elizabeth Newbery (c.1794-1866), and had

    The Reed family is covered in BLG 18th Edn Vol. 1 (1965) in ‘Reed of Sidbury Hall’, p. 602, but it omits John Thomas Reed’s second marriage and daughter. Joseph Foster included Reed’s daughter Ethel Sackville Reed, in ‘The Royal Lineage of
    Noble and Gentle Families’, p. 133.

    22) ETHEL SACKVILLE REED, b. 8 Feb. 1873 Kintbury, Berkshire; d. 1 Mar. 1962 Gilston Farm, Mashonaland East, Zimbabwe; m. 23 June 1904 St Mary & All Saints Cathedral, Salisbury [Harare], Southern Rhodesia [Zimbabwe], GEORGE NORVAL FLEMING of Gilston Farm,
    farmer (b. 27 Aug. 1872 Edinburgh, Scotland; d. 19 Apr. 1961 St Anne Hospital, Salisbury [Harare], Zimbabwe), son of Rev. John Fleming, Minister of Craigmillar Park Church, Edinburgh (1828-1918) & Catherine Young Milroy (1833-1911), and had

    23) RICHARD WALLACE FLEMING, MBE, of Braemar Farm, Mashonaland East Province, Zimbabwe, farmer, b. 24 Oct. 1914 Hartley Wintley, Hampshire; d. 1999[?], maternal grandfather of Chris Martin (b. 1977)

    Cheers, ----Brad

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  • From Leslie Mahler@21:1/5 to Brad Verity on Fri Jan 13 01:02:03 2023
    On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:11:02 PM UTC-8, Brad Verity wrote:
    On Friday, January 6, 2023 at 10:39:57 AM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    The descent from Henry 7 goes through a known and documented line down to Charles Drummond b 24 Jun 1759
    I’ve completed entering Chris Martin of Coldplay into my database of Edward I descendants. As Leslie, Will and others have posted, Martin descends from Henry VII. There are two lines from that monarch, one from James V of Scotland. I lay out both
    lines below, with as much detail as I was able to research, on the more recent generations.

    It doesn’t appear that Chris Martin has been included in the second edition of Royal Descents of 900 Immigrants. But as the rock musician currently lives in Malibu, California (and is apparently a close friend of Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex, fellow
    resident of Southern California), it seems he would qualify as an addition to a future edition of that series.

    Chris Martin has a fascinating ancestry, which would make an excellent episode for the 'Who Do You Think You Are' television series. Gwyneth Paltrow was featured in the series a few seasons back.

    Henry VII had a grandson A1 and a daughter B1 (see below):
    A1) James V, King of Scotland = Euphemia Elphinstone, and had
    A2) Robert Stewart, 1st Earl of Orkney, illegit. (1533-1593) m. Lady Janet Kennedy, and had
    A3) Lady Jean Stewart (c.1565-aft.1642) m. Patrick Leslie, 1st Lord Lindores (c.1557-1608, descended from James II of Scotland), and had
    A4) Hon. Margaret Leslie (b. c.1600) m. John Drummond, 2nd Lord Maderty (c.1580-by 1651, descended from James IV), and had
    A5) Hon. Jean Drummond (b. c.1625) m. Patrick Graeme, 5th Laird of Inchbrakie Castle (c.1610-1687, descended from James II of Scotland), and had
    A6) Margaret Graeme (c.1644-1704) m. Robert, 1st Lord Nairne (c.1620-1683), and had
    A7) Hon. MARGARET NAIRNE, b. 16 Dec. 1669; d. 14 Nov. 1747, bur. Auchtergaven Parish Kirk, Perthshire, Scotland; m. (contract 18 Jan.) 1690, WILLIAM [MURRAY] NAIRNE, 2nd Lord Nairne (see B7 below), and had
    A8) Hon. MARGARET NAIRNE, b. 19 Aug. 1692; d. 28 May 1773 Machany House, Blackford, Perthshire; m. (contract 1 Nov.) 1712, WILLIAM DRUMMOND, 4th Viscount Strathallan (b. c.1686 Machany House; k. 16 Apr. 1646 Culloden Moor, Inverness-shire, Scotland),
    son of Sir John Drummond, 3rd of Machany House (c.1650-1707, descended from James IV) & Margaret Stewart (descended from Edward III), and had
    A9) Hon. ROBERT DRUMMOND of Cadland House, Hampshire, banker, b. 13 Nov. 1728 Machany House, bap. 14 Nov. 1728 Blackford Parish Kirk, Perthshire; d. 19 Jan. 1804 Cleveland Row, London, bur. 26 Jan. 1804 St James Church, Westminster; m. 22 Apr. 1753 St
    Martin in the Fields, London, WINIFRED MARY THOMPSON (b. c.1733; d. 2 Apr. 1791 London, bur. 9 Apr. 1791 St Pancras Old Church, London), dau of William Thompson of Leicester Square, London (d. 1760) & Mary Lucy Lucy (d. 1782, descended from Edward III),
    and had
    A10) CHARLES DRUMMOND of Charing Cross, London, banker, b. 24 June 1759, bap. 12 July 1759 St Martin in the Fields, London; d. 2 Mar. 1823 Charing Cross, bur. 8 Mar. 1823 St Martin in the Fields; m. 26 July 1789 St James Church, Westminster, FRANCES
    DOROTHY LOCKWOOD (b. 20 Dec. 1763 Kingsthorpe, Northamptonshire, bap. 27 Dec. 1763 St John the Baptist Church, Kingsthorpe; d. 24 Feb. 1831 Stratford Place, London, bur. 1 Mar. 1831 St Martin in the Fields), dau of Rev. Edward Lockwood of Dews Hall,
    Lambourne, Essex, rector of St Peter Northampton (1719-1802, descended from Henry IV) & Lucy Dowdeswell (1729-1764), and had
    A11) CHARLES DRUMMOND of Charing Cross, banker, b. 4 Sept. 1790 Westminster, London, bap. 6 Oct. 1790 St Margaret Church, Westminster; d. 23 Aug. 1858 Brighton, Sussex, bur. 28 Aug. 1858 St George Churchyard, Beckenham, Kent; m. 15 July 1819 St George
    Hanover Square, London, Hon. MARY DULCIBELLA EDEN (b. 1 Sept. 1793 Old Palace Yard, Westminster, London; d. 20 Mar. 1862 Linden Grove, Notting Hill, London, bur. 25 Mar. 1862 St George Churchyard, Beckenham), dau of William Eden, 1st Baron Auckland (1744-
    1814, descended from Edward III) & Eleanor Elliot (c.1758-1818, descended from James IV), and had
    A12) MAURICE DRUMMOND of Hampstead, Middlesex, Receiver Metropolitan Police 1860-83, b. 9 July 1825 Grosvenor Place, London, bap. 8 Aug. 1825 St George Hanover Square; d. 18 May 1891 21 Broadhurst Gardens, South Hampstead, bur. 21 May 1891 Highgate
    Cemetery, London; m. 12 Jan. 1847 St Paul Knightsbridge, London, Hon. ADELAIDE LISTER (b. 14 May 1827 Gisburne House, Yorkshire, bap. 27 May 1827 St Mary Church, Gisburn; d. 27 Apr. 1911 Hampstead Square, bur. 2 May 1911 St John Church, Hampstead), dau
    of Thomas Lister, 2nd Baron Ribblesdale (1790-1832, descended from Edward III) & Adelaide Lister (1806-1838, descended from Edward III), and had

    Four years after the death of Hon. Adelaide (Lister) Drummond, her memoirs were published, dedicated to her children and grandchildren. Among her recollections was her attendance at the wedding of Queen Victoria to Prince Albert at St James Palace in
    1840 when she was twelve years old.
    https://archive.org/details/honourableadelai00cham/page/n9/mode/2up

    A13) MIRIAM FRANCES LILIAN DRUMMOND, b. 1 July 1860 Frognal, Hampstead, bap. 11 Aug. 1860 Christ Church, Hampstead; d. 22 Mar. 1931 88 Queens Gate, South Kensington, London; m. 27 Apr. 1886 St Mark Hamilton Terrace, St Johns Wood, London, GEORGE JOHN
    BARRY HAYTER of Earls Court, London, bank clerk (b. 31 Jan. 1852 Haverstock Hill, Hampstead, bap. 27 Apr. 1852 St Marylebone Parish Church, London; d. 29 Sept. 1942 Newlands Nursing Home, Rake, Hampshire), son of John Hayter of Cavendish Square, London,
    portrait artist (1800-1895) & Augusta Bramley (c.1809-1874), and had

    The Hayters were not a landed gentry family, rather they were very prominent artists. The father John Hayter and grandfather Charles Hayter of this George Hayter, were both portrait painters and have entries in Wikipedia. His paternal uncle Sir George
    Hayter (1792-1871) was appointed Principal painter in Ordinary by Queen Victoria, and has an entry in the ODNB.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hayter https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hayter https://www.oxforddnb.com/display/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-12785?rskey=GcEpcQ&result=1

    A14) IVY CHRISTABEL ADELAIDE TUKE HAYTER, b. 16 Feb. 1895 Wigmore Street, London, bap. 16 Mar. 1895 St Mary Magdalene Munster Square, London; d. 28 Mar. 1986 Bedhampton, Hampshire; m. 11 June 1917 St Peter Cranley Gardens, Kensington, London, BASIL
    RUPERT WILLETT, CBE, DSC, of Bedhampton, Captain Royal Navy (b. 23 July 1896 Chislehurst, Kent, bap. 16 Mar. 1907 St John Church, Meads, Eastbourne, Sussex; d. 29 June 1966 Havant War Memorial Hospital, Hampshire), son of William Willett of Chislehurst,
    building contractor (1856-1915) & Maria Mills (1858-1905), and had

    Ivy (Hayter) Willett can be found on p. 535 of Ruvigny’s Tudor volume (1903). Her father-in-law, William Willett, introduced the idea of Daylight Saving Time in Britain in 1907, and has an entry in the ODNB:
    https://www.oxforddnb.com/display/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-36912?rskey=U8yfg9&result=3
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/when-clocks-change-2022-march-go-forward-uk-summer-time

    A15) GILLIAN MARY ELFRIDA WILLETT, b. 24 Oct. 1922 Honiton, Devon, bap. 17 Apr. 1923 St Mary & St Peter Church, Salcombe Regis, Devon; deceased [presumably]; m. 12 Apr. 1947 St Thomas Church, Bedhampton, Hampshire, Maj. RICHARD WALLACE FLEMING, MBE, of
    Braemar Farm, Mashonaland East Province, Zimbabwe, farmer (b. 24 Oct. 1914 Hartley Wintley, Hampshire; d. 1999[?]), son of George Norval Fleming of Gilston Farm, Zimbabwe, farmer (1872-1961) & Ethel Sackville Reed (1873-1962, descended from Edward I),
    and had

    I was unable to find online exact dates of death for Gillian (Willett) Fleming and her husband, Maj. Richard Wallace Fleming. Some family trees on Ancestry give his year of death as 1999. It is just possible that Gillian is still with us, though as she
    would be age 100, this is unlikely. Presumably both she and her husband died in Zimbabwe. She had two brothers, William Basil Willett (1919-1976) and George Willett (1930-2022), who both married and have children living.

    A16) ALISON FLEMING, b. 15 Dec. 1952 Salisbury [now Harare], Southern Rhodesia [now Zimbabwe]; m. by 1976 (divorce 2011), ANTHONY JOHN MARTIN of Whitestone House, Exeter Devon, chartered accountant (b. Apr. 1941 Exeter, Devon), son of John Besley
    Martin, CBE, of Exeter, coach rental company founder (1906-1982) & Muriel Pattison (1916-2002), and had

    John Besley Martin was the Mayor of Exeter 1968-69, and a prominent figure in that Devon town. His paternal ancestors were farmers in Devon. I could not locate an entry for the marriage of Alison Fleming and Anthony Martin in the England & Wales BMD
    Index. It’s possible they were married in Zimbabwe. There is an online article on the parents, children and siblings of Chris Martin, from 2018:
    https://bodyheightweight.com/chris-martin-family/

    The elder brother of Alison (Fleming) Martin, Angus George Fleming (1951-2007), can be found on The Peerage website:
    https://www.thepeerage.com/p43993.htm#i439923

    A17) CHRISTOPHER ANTHONY JOHN MARTIN of Malibu, Los Angeles County, Calif., rock musician, co-founder and lead singer of the band Coldplay, b. 2 Mar. 1977 Exeter, Devon; married (and divorced) American actress Gwyneth Paltrow, and has issue, one son
    and one daughter
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Martin

    B1) Princess Mary Tudor (1496-1533) m. 2) Charles Brandon, 1st Duke of Suffolk, and had
    B2) Lady Eleanor Brandon (1519-1547) m. Henry Clifford, 2nd Earl of Cumberland (c.1517-1570, descended from Edward III), and had
    B3) Lady Margaret Clifford (1540-1596) m. Henry Stanley, 4th Earl of Derby (1531-1593, descended from Edward III), and had
    B4) William Stanley, 6th Earl of Derby (1561-1642) m. Lady Elizabeth de Vere (1575-1627, descended from Edward I), and had
    B5) James Stanley, 7th Earl of Derby (1606-1651) m. 2) Charlotte de La Trémoille (1599-1664, descended from Frederick IV of Naples), and had
    B6) Lady Amelia Anne Sophia Stanley (1633-1703) m. John Murray, 1st Marquess of Atholl (1631-1703, descended from James IV), and had
    B7) WILLIAM [MURRAY] NAIRNE, 2nd Lord Nairne, 1st Earl Nairne [Jacobite], b. 10 Dec. 1664; d. 3 Feb. 1726 Nairne House, Auchtergaven, Perthshire, bur. Auchtergaven Parish Kirk; m. (contract 18 Jan.) 1690, Hon. MARGARET NAIRNE (see A7 above)
    https://www.oxforddnb.com/display/10.1093/ref:odnb/9780198614128.001.0001/odnb-9780198614128-e-19729?rskey=V0f7Wn&result=13



    I'll detail the descent from Edward I, for Maj. Richard Wallace Fleming (1914-1999), maternal grandfather of Chris Martin, in another post.

    Cheers, -----Brad


    Great work! There certainly are a large number of royal descents here.
    The descent from William Willett is also mentioned here:

    https://www.devonlive.com/news/celebs-tv/chris-martins-early-life-devon-5154526

    Leslie

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