• Mary Underhill Naylor Stites - New Royal Ancestry

    From Robert O'Connor@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 1 23:27:56 2023
    I understand that the latest edition of Gary Boyd Roberts' RD 900 has a new descent of Mary Underhill Naylor Stites from William the Conqueror.

    I wonder if some kind soul with access to this book could post brief details of that descent here.

    It would be much appreciated.

    Robert O'Connor

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  • From JBrand@21:1/5 to Robert O'Connor on Tue Jan 3 16:14:35 2023
    On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:27:58 AM UTC-5, Robert O'Connor wrote:
    I understand that the latest edition of Gary Boyd Roberts' RD 900 has a new descent of Mary Underhill Naylor Stites from William the Conqueror.

    I wonder if some kind soul with access to this book could post brief details of that descent here.

    It would be much appreciated.

    Robert O'Connor

    _RD900_, 2nd ed., 2:1013-14 (connecting to p. 530, an Edward I line):

    10. Walter Blount = Isabel Acton

    11. Jane Blount = Richard Hall

    12. Stephen Hall = (1) Anne ____; (2) Isabel ____. Thomas Hall, son of Stephen but of uncertain maternity, also immigrated to NY and married Mrs. Anna Mitford Quick, but left no NDTPS.

    13. (prob. by 1) Joyce Hall = Humphrey Underhill, son of Humphrey Underhill (and Jane Thrift), etc.

    14. (prob. by Joyce) Humphrey Underhill of NY = Mrs. Sarah ____ Smith

    14. [sibling] Mary Underhill of NY = (1) Thomas Naylor; (2) Richard Stites.

    [... descent to Jill Jacobs Biden]

    Sources: _NYGBR_ 153 (2022): 25-31 (Underhill, Hall) (Simon Parker-Galbreath); Ettwell Augustine Bracher Barnard, _New Links With Shakespeare_, 2nd ed. (1930), pp. 105-21 and Emily A. Buckland, _The Rainsford Family, with Highlights on Shakespeare,
    Southampton, Hall, and Hart_ (1932), pp. 163-193, esp. 170 (Hall); Helen M. Blount Prescott, "Blount and Blunt Ascendancy Table" (1902-1930) and 1561 will of Walter Blunt of Astley (Worcestershire Record Office, transcribed by Gillian Palmer), which
    mentions wife Isabel, son Robert, and daughter Joyce Hall. Both the Table and will are available at www.lamartine.com/genealogy.aspx. For Thomas Hall, see Arnold J.P. Van Laer (Kenneth Scott and Kenn Stryker-Rodda, eds.), _New York Historical
    Manuscripts: Dutch, Vol. I, Register of the Provincial Secretary, 1638-1642_ (1974), pp. 34-35 and _NYGBR_ 153:29-30; pp. 25-28 of this article raise the question of the maternity of Humphrey Underhill of NY. ...

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  • From JBrand@21:1/5 to JBrand on Tue Jan 3 17:05:43 2023
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 7:14:37 PM UTC-5, JBrand wrote:
    On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:27:58 AM UTC-5, Robert O'Connor wrote:
    I understand that the latest edition of Gary Boyd Roberts' RD 900 has a new descent of Mary Underhill Naylor Stites from William the Conqueror.

    I wonder if some kind soul with access to this book could post brief details of that descent here.

    It would be much appreciated.

    Robert O'Connor
    _RD900_, 2nd ed., 2:1013-14 (connecting to p. 530, an Edward I line):

    10. Walter Blount = Isabel Acton

    11. Jane Blount = Richard Hall

    12. Stephen Hall = (1) Anne ____; (2) Isabel ____. Thomas Hall, son of Stephen but of uncertain maternity, also immigrated to NY and married Mrs. Anna Mitford Quick, but left no NDTPS.

    13. (prob. by 1) Joyce Hall = Humphrey Underhill, son of Humphrey Underhill (and Jane Thrift), etc.

    14. (prob. by Joyce) Humphrey Underhill of NY = Mrs. Sarah ____ Smith

    14. [sibling] Mary Underhill of NY = (1) Thomas Naylor; (2) Richard Stites.

    [... descent to Jill Jacobs Biden]

    Sources: _NYGBR_ 153 (2022): 25-31 (Underhill, Hall) (Simon Parker-Galbreath); Ettwell Augustine Bracher Barnard, _New Links With Shakespeare_, 2nd ed. (1930), pp. 105-21 and Emily A. Buckland, _The Rainsford Family, with Highlights on Shakespeare,
    Southampton, Hall, and Hart_ (1932), pp. 163-193, esp. 170 (Hall); Helen M. Blount Prescott, "Blount and Blunt Ascendancy Table" (1902-1930) and 1561 will of Walter Blunt of Astley (Worcestershire Record Office, transcribed by Gillian Palmer), which
    mentions wife Isabel, son Robert, and daughter Joyce Hall. Both the Table and will are available at www.lamartine.com/genealogy.aspx. For Thomas Hall, see Arnold J.P. Van Laer (Kenneth Scott and Kenn Stryker-Rodda, eds.), _New York Historical Manuscripts:
    Dutch, Vol. I, Register of the Provincial Secretary, 1638-1642_ (1974), pp. 34-35 and _NYGBR_ 153:29-30; pp. 25-28 of this article raise the question of the maternity of Humphrey Underhill of NY. ...

    See also:

    https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/blount-walter-ii-1506-61

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  • From Robert O'Connor@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 3 21:10:46 2023
    Thank you very much indeed for posting those details, much appreciated.

    Robert O'Connor

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  • From JBrand@21:1/5 to JBrand on Wed Jan 4 14:07:07 2023
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 8:05:45 PM UTC-5, JBrand wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 7:14:37 PM UTC-5, JBrand wrote:
    On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:27:58 AM UTC-5, Robert O'Connor wrote:
    I understand that the latest edition of Gary Boyd Roberts' RD 900 has a new descent of Mary Underhill Naylor Stites from William the Conqueror.

    I wonder if some kind soul with access to this book could post brief details of that descent here.

    It would be much appreciated.

    Robert O'Connor
    _RD900_, 2nd ed., 2:1013-14 (connecting to p. 530, an Edward I line):

    10. Walter Blount = Isabel Acton

    11. Jane Blount = Richard Hall

    12. Stephen Hall = (1) Anne ____; (2) Isabel ____. Thomas Hall, son of Stephen but of uncertain maternity, also immigrated to NY and married Mrs. Anna Mitford Quick, but left no NDTPS.

    13. (prob. by 1) Joyce Hall = Humphrey Underhill, son of Humphrey Underhill (and Jane Thrift), etc.

    14. (prob. by Joyce) Humphrey Underhill of NY = Mrs. Sarah ____ Smith

    14. [sibling] Mary Underhill of NY = (1) Thomas Naylor; (2) Richard Stites.

    [... descent to Jill Jacobs Biden]

    Sources: _NYGBR_ 153 (2022): 25-31 (Underhill, Hall) (Simon Parker-Galbreath); Ettwell Augustine Bracher Barnard, _New Links With Shakespeare_, 2nd ed. (1930), pp. 105-21 and Emily A. Buckland, _The Rainsford Family, with Highlights on Shakespeare,
    Southampton, Hall, and Hart_ (1932), pp. 163-193, esp. 170 (Hall); Helen M. Blount Prescott, "Blount and Blunt Ascendancy Table" (1902-1930) and 1561 will of Walter Blunt of Astley (Worcestershire Record Office, transcribed by Gillian Palmer), which
    mentions wife Isabel, son Robert, and daughter Joyce Hall. Both the Table and will are available at www.lamartine.com/genealogy.aspx. For Thomas Hall, see Arnold J.P. Van Laer (Kenneth Scott and Kenn Stryker-Rodda, eds.), _New York Historical Manuscripts:
    Dutch, Vol. I, Register of the Provincial Secretary, 1638-1642_ (1974), pp. 34-35 and _NYGBR_ 153:29-30; pp. 25-28 of this article raise the question of the maternity of Humphrey Underhill of NY. ...
    See also:

    https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/blount-walter-ii-1506-61

    Note that the HOP sketch for Walter Blount (d. 1561) shows his wife as "Isabel, da. of Walter Acton, wid. of Thomas Broughton." She may be this person in the 1583 Staffordshire Visitation, which doesn't show her second (Blount) marriage:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Visitacion_of_Staffordschire_Made_by/ADsRAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22of+longdon+in+com%22+%22walter+actone%22&pg=PA60&printsec=frontcover

    If so, with Thomas Broughton she had a son Lewis Broughton (m. ___ Barrett), who had an eldest son "Foulke Broughton, ... of Worcester towne, now livinge."

    It should be noted that Noyes-Libby-Davis, _Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire_, claims that the mother of Rev. Robert Jordan, the immigrant to Maine, was a daughter of one Fulke Broughton of Worcester, England.

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  • From JBrand@21:1/5 to JBrand on Wed Jan 4 15:18:18 2023
    On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 5:07:09 PM UTC-5, JBrand wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 8:05:45 PM UTC-5, JBrand wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 3, 2023 at 7:14:37 PM UTC-5, JBrand wrote:
    On Monday, January 2, 2023 at 2:27:58 AM UTC-5, Robert O'Connor wrote:
    I understand that the latest edition of Gary Boyd Roberts' RD 900 has a new descent of Mary Underhill Naylor Stites from William the Conqueror.

    I wonder if some kind soul with access to this book could post brief details of that descent here.

    It would be much appreciated.

    Robert O'Connor
    _RD900_, 2nd ed., 2:1013-14 (connecting to p. 530, an Edward I line):

    10. Walter Blount = Isabel Acton

    11. Jane Blount = Richard Hall

    12. Stephen Hall = (1) Anne ____; (2) Isabel ____. Thomas Hall, son of Stephen but of uncertain maternity, also immigrated to NY and married Mrs. Anna Mitford Quick, but left no NDTPS.

    13. (prob. by 1) Joyce Hall = Humphrey Underhill, son of Humphrey Underhill (and Jane Thrift), etc.

    14. (prob. by Joyce) Humphrey Underhill of NY = Mrs. Sarah ____ Smith

    14. [sibling] Mary Underhill of NY = (1) Thomas Naylor; (2) Richard Stites.

    [... descent to Jill Jacobs Biden]

    Sources: _NYGBR_ 153 (2022): 25-31 (Underhill, Hall) (Simon Parker-Galbreath); Ettwell Augustine Bracher Barnard, _New Links With Shakespeare_, 2nd ed. (1930), pp. 105-21 and Emily A. Buckland, _The Rainsford Family, with Highlights on Shakespeare,
    Southampton, Hall, and Hart_ (1932), pp. 163-193, esp. 170 (Hall); Helen M. Blount Prescott, "Blount and Blunt Ascendancy Table" (1902-1930) and 1561 will of Walter Blunt of Astley (Worcestershire Record Office, transcribed by Gillian Palmer), which
    mentions wife Isabel, son Robert, and daughter Joyce Hall. Both the Table and will are available at www.lamartine.com/genealogy.aspx. For Thomas Hall, see Arnold J.P. Van Laer (Kenneth Scott and Kenn Stryker-Rodda, eds.), _New York Historical Manuscripts:
    Dutch, Vol. I, Register of the Provincial Secretary, 1638-1642_ (1974), pp. 34-35 and _NYGBR_ 153:29-30; pp. 25-28 of this article raise the question of the maternity of Humphrey Underhill of NY. ...
    See also:

    https://www.historyofparliamentonline.org/volume/1509-1558/member/blount-walter-ii-1506-61
    Note that the HOP sketch for Walter Blount (d. 1561) shows his wife as "Isabel, da. of Walter Acton, wid. of Thomas Broughton." She may be this person in the 1583 Staffordshire Visitation, which doesn't show her second (Blount) marriage:

    https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Visitacion_of_Staffordschire_Made_by/ADsRAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22of+longdon+in+com%22+%22walter+actone%22&pg=PA60&printsec=frontcover

    If so, with Thomas Broughton she had a son Lewis Broughton (m. ___ Barrett), who had an eldest son "Foulke Broughton, ... of Worcester towne, now livinge."

    It should be noted that Noyes-Libby-Davis, _Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire_, claims that the mother of Rev. Robert Jordan, the immigrant to Maine, was a daughter of one Fulke Broughton of Worcester, England.

    GDMNH quote concerning Robt1 Jordan ...

    JORDAN, REV. ROBERT, Spurwink, prob. that s. of Edward of Worcester, co. Worc., 'pleb.' enrolled at Balliol Col., Oxford, 15 June 1632. The will of Edward of Worc., bookseller, 1 June--2 Aug. 1637, left to s. Robert L35 to be added to his gr. fa.'s
    former legacy of L15, both to be pd. within one month of his decease. The fa.'s death may expl. his leaving Oxford instead of taking an A.M., getting a parish and remaining in Eng. The mother's fa. was Foulke Broughton, gent., of Worc. Feeble investig.
    to confirm this ancestry has failed, but the fact that on 24 Dec. 1661 the Maine Rev. R. J. was app. adm. on the est. of Richard Leader(2) ag. which Mr. Thos. Broughton (4) had a claim (Doc. His. iv. 12-3, 70-1) may lead to proof that he was the Oxford
    student, related to Mr. Thomas Purchase, not thru the latter's w., as Col. Banks suggests, but thru the Broughtons. Purchase was a native of Dorchester, co. Dorset, and appar. F. Broughton's sons liv. there and in London.

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