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  • A bit of Freke

    From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 13:32:00 2021
    In a vain attempt to identify Julius Freke, I happened upon a correction to

    https://books.google.com/books?id=4wHEVdBMIL4C&pg=PA96#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Where they state that Sir George Hastings married Alice Greke (sic) daughter of Sir Thomas Greke (sic)

    George actually married Alice FREKE, daughter of

    Thomas /Freke/ of Iwerne Courtney alias Shroton, co Dorset; Knt; MP Dorset; Ho born 27 Sep 1563 Blandford; first son
    by his wife
    Elizabeth /Taylor/ born 13 Sep 1567 (I dont know where)
    widow of Francis /Smythe/ of London; mercer "Second son" (so said in 1568)

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Thu Sep 30 14:13:36 2021
    On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 1:32:02 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    In a vain attempt to identify Julius Freke, I happened upon a correction to

    https://books.google.com/books?id=4wHEVdBMIL4C&pg=PA96#v=onepage&q&f=false

    Where they state that Sir George Hastings married Alice Greke (sic) daughter of Sir Thomas Greke (sic)

    George actually married Alice FREKE, daughter of

    Thomas /Freke/ of Iwerne Courtney alias Shroton, co Dorset; Knt; MP Dorset; Ho born 27 Sep 1563 Blandford; first son
    by his wife
    Elizabeth /Taylor/ born 13 Sep 1567 (I dont know where)
    widow of Francis /Smythe/ of London; mercer "Second son" (so said in 1568)


    George Hastings and Alice Freke married 27 Jun 1614 at her parents place of Iwerne Courtney alias Shroton, Dorset

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 14:18:28 2021
    The eldest daughter of Alice Freke and George Hastings was that Frances Hastings who m John Roy of London, merchant.

    I take this document to be evidence that she had died, and now he was suing, among others, what I take to be her uncles (of that same name) Robert Freke and Thomas Freke. Probably for some inheritence for his children.

    https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5356953

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 14:31:34 2021
    Here is the marriage settlement for Alice Freke and George Hastings

    https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/a2cdd1f1-953c-43ea-8261-1ce7e09e491d

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 14:35:56 2021
    Evidently (from perused sources) it was known that Dorothy, second daughter of Alice (Freke) Hastings had married some Doddington, without knowing his forename. I here resurrect it Christopher Doddington

    https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C5435311

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 15:15:53 2021
    It has been declared that the three sons of George Hastings and Alice Freke: George, Edward, John... all died s.p. so I was a bit put off when John Roy was suing some widow Elizabeth and I didn't know who she was.

    It turns out admin was granted to Elizabeth in 1658 "widow, relict of JOHN Hastings of Woodlands" so there you go

    I wonder if this might not be that same Elizabeth Clarke, who turned around and married her, now seen, in-law John Freke of Boston ?

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Thu Sep 30 15:29:34 2021
    On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 3:15:55 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    It has been declared that the three sons of George Hastings and Alice Freke: George, Edward, John... all died s.p. so I was a bit put off when John Roy was suing some widow Elizabeth and I didn't know who she was.

    It turns out admin was granted to Elizabeth in 1658 "widow, relict of JOHN Hastings of Woodlands" so there you go

    I wonder if this might not be that same Elizabeth Clarke, who turned around and married her, now seen, in-law John Freke of Boston ?

    OK no, I now see that admin on the estate of Elizabeth (Clarke) Hastings was granted in 1667 so they could not be the same person, as the other Elizabeth was living long after this.

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 30 19:20:01 2021
    Jane Freke, sister to this Alice (Freke) Hastings married
    John /Tregonwell/ (1598-1677)

    His parents were John /Tregonwell/ of Milton Abbey 1585
    and
    Katherine /Browne/ youngest daughter of Anthony /Browne/ and his wife Mary /Dormer/

    John and Jane had a son
    John /Tregonwell/ of Milton Abbas, Dorset
    bap 11 Dec 1625 Iwerne Courtney, Dorset
    died 20 Jun 1680 Milton Abbas, Dorset

    He is said to have married Jane Venn (alias Fenn)
    said to be a daughter of Robert /Venn/ , Lord Mayor of London 1638
    although she is not mentioned in Robert's will

    John Tregonwell by Jane had a sole heiress
    Mary /Tregonwell/
    who m
    Frances /Luttrell/ of Dunster Castle b 1659 second son

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 1 10:23:37 2021
    This correction to

    https://books.google.com/books?id=YUtNAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA552#v=onepage&q&f=true

    might already have made it into new versions

    However if not, let me be the first to state that

    Robert /Freke/ of Iwerne Courtney; Teller of the Excheque 1571-92; esq
    adult by 1550
    bur 24 Oct 1592 Iwerne

    had *four* living sons

    The one missing from this source being found as

    https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/0db40dab-5c37-4fd0-9927-20a54f36aef4

    Robert /Freke/ of Estham Crewkerne Somerset
    SECOND son

    Therefore using the other dates from Burke
    we can say that Robert this second son was born exactly 1564/1569

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