All, wondering about problem of the mother of Bishop Cuthbert Tunstall. See discussion, years ago, here:

https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.medieval/c/1AWGqrPM3-c/m/CgV7Qo0DW3YJ

Specifically:

"Either Newcombe never saw the Calendar of Papal Registers entry
regarding the marriage of Thomas Tunstall and Alice Neville, or he
misread it, for it is clear from that that the couple had three
illegitimate children (apparently sons) before they wed. What needs
to be determined is what Newcombe's source was for 1) Thomas Tunstall
having had two wives; and 2) that one of the wives was the daughter of
Sir John Conyers of Hornby. It seems likely that there was only one mistress/wife, Alice Neville, and that she was the mother of all of
Tunstall's children.

The allusion to Sir John Conyers of Hornby is interesting. For he had
a daughter-in-law, Alice Neville, the widow of his son and heir John
Conyers, who had died in 1469/70. The papal petition mentions that
the couple had cohabited for "many years" and already had three sons.
Five years is certainly enough time for Alice to have fathered three
sons. If the Alice Neville who became Thomas Tunstall's mistress was
indeed the Alice Neville who was the widowed daughter-in-law of Sir
John Conyers of Hornby, it could explain how the couple met: for
Thomas Tunstall was the half-brother (through his mother Eleanor
Fitzhugh) of Margery Darcy, the late wife of Sir John Conyers, and
thus the uncle of Alice Neville's late husband. A very cozy
relationship like this could well explain why Thomas Tunstall received permission from the Pope to contract a private marriage and NOT have
public marriage banns."

Maybe this question has long been resolved, but when I read this thread, the IPM of Sir John Conyers KG (d.1490) came to mind. It cites a Thomas Tunstall and a William Tunstall:

https://archive.org/details/calendarofinquis03great/page/586/mode/2up?view=theater&q=cuthbert

No relationship is stated, but is it possible that, by this time, Thomas Tunstall was Sir John's deceased son John's widow's (Alice Neville) second husband? And that Bishop Cuthbert Tunstall was the half-brother of Sir John's grandson and heir, William
Conyers?

Alice's grandfather would have been Ralph Neville, 1st Earl of Westmorland, correct? Sir John's grandfather, John Conyers, had been an attorney for the earl; his father, Christopher Conyers of Hornby, had served Richard, 5th Earl of Salisbury.

I'm not conversant with larger picture but fascinated by long-ago thread. Is IPM info already known/anyone know if Cuthbert Tunstall mother question has been further addressed or resolved since 2011 discussion?

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