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  • Re: Yasmine von Hohenstaufen Anjou Plantagenet

    From Yasmin von Hohenstaufen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 28 04:47:37 2022
    Il giorno mercoledì 29 luglio 2020 alle 16:47:51 UTC+2 greenpri...@gmail.com ha scritto:
    Il giorno domenica 18 aprile 2010 22:33:22 UTC+2, wjhonson ha scritto:
    In a message dated 4/18/2010 10:10:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, t...@clearwire.net writes:


    I took a look at her web page. Wow! This is a woman who is severely reality challenged when it comes to genealogy. She not only claims descent from an invented son of Emp. Frederick II, but also from "Griffen, son of Charles Martel".>>Ma chi sono questi 4 accattoni che si permettono di criticare i veri RE!Quattro mafiosi di m...si permettono di opinare su mille secoli di imperatori.Quattro spacciatori di frottole imbroglioni di un borgo
    improvvisatosi come accattoni, su un trono di millesecoli d'imperatori, operano deterrenza diffamatoria, che è come una masturbazione di eunuchi impotenti!Siete solo un malloppo di patetici imbroglioncelli, mistificatori, accattoni di merda .Avete
    sputtanato la mistica graalica del borgo con le vostre corone di cartone e di improvvisate massaia con la spocchia di serve rampanti che vogliono sostituire i veri Re.Fatevi le seghe !I veri Re restano re e voi non siete un cazzo!Buffoni di merda! Siete
    solo attori della peggiore pro loco del pessimo gusto!Solo creatori di una giostra che ha persino stufato...Buffoni di periferia!
    ------------------


    The french Wikipedia here (in translation)

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr& u=http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffon_%28carolingien%29&ei=xWnLS4uRFYO2swPF48SQAw&sa=X&oi=translate&
    ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBAQ7gEwAg& prev=/search%3Fq%3DGriffin,%2Bson%2Bof%2B%2522Charles%2BMartel%2522%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client
    %3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DcvG%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official

    states that a Griffin did exist who was son of Charles Martel.

    Are you saying that:
    1) No such Griffin existed, he is made up OR
    2) A Griffin existed but he was not son of Charles Martel OR
    3) He existed and he was son of Charles Martel but he left no children

    Will, Prince of Seborga
    Ehi mezzoseghino , spuntato come fungo in una notte!
    Chi cazzo sei per opinare ipotizzando! Ringrazia Dio se non ti hanno querelato... poichè da informazioni sei solo mezzoseghino...niente con il nulla..
    .Chi ci ha provato , ancora lamenta i dolori e lo strazio delle tasche rimaste vuote e bucate, con pendenze di reato di diffamazione :questa è arbitrarea diffamazione di parte!
    Sei niente , tra compari di merenda. Degno di querela, ma sei solo squattrianto... e ci limitiamo ad una pernacchia... Risparmiamo dispendio di altre energie!La principessa da otto secoli sui suoi documenti anamnestici è Aprile von Hohenstaufen Puoti.
    Lei è Lei , ossia la pronipote di Federico II ed Isabella d'Inghilterra e dei re Longobardi Gens Potitia , dell'antica Roma!E tu... non sei un cazzo!


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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Yasmin von Hohenstaufen on Fri Oct 28 11:04:04 2022
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 4:47:38 AM UTC-7, Yasmin von Hohenstaufen wrote:
    Il giorno mercoledì 29 luglio 2020 alle 16:47:51 UTC+2 greenpri...@gmail.com ha scritto:
    Il giorno domenica 18 aprile 2010 22:33:22 UTC+2, wjhonson ha scritto:
    In a message dated 4/18/2010 10:10:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, t...@clearwire.net writes:


    I took a look at her web page. Wow! This is a woman who is severely reality challenged when it comes to genealogy. She not only claims descent from an invented son of Emp. Frederick II, but also from "Griffen, son of Charles Martel".>>Ma chi sono questi 4 accattoni che si permettono di criticare i veri RE!Quattro mafiosi di m...si permettono di opinare su mille secoli di imperatori.Quattro spacciatori di frottole imbroglioni di un borgo
    improvvisatosi come accattoni, su un trono di millesecoli d'imperatori, operano deterrenza diffamatoria, che è come una masturbazione di eunuchi impotenti!Siete solo un malloppo di patetici imbroglioncelli, mistificatori, accattoni di merda .Avete
    sputtanato la mistica graalica del borgo con le vostre corone di cartone e di improvvisate massaia con la spocchia di serve rampanti che vogliono sostituire i veri Re.Fatevi le seghe !I veri Re restano re e voi non siete un cazzo!Buffoni di merda! Siete
    solo attori della peggiore pro loco del pessimo gusto!Solo creatori di una giostra che ha persino stufato...Buffoni di periferia!
    ------------------


    The french Wikipedia here (in translation)

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr& u=http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffon_%28carolingien%29&ei=xWnLS4uRFYO2swPF48SQAw&sa=X&oi=translate&
    ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBAQ7gEwAg& prev=/search%3Fq%3DGriffin,%2Bson%2Bof%2B%2522Charles%2BMartel%2522%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client
    %3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DcvG%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official

    states that a Griffin did exist who was son of Charles Martel.

    Are you saying that:
    1) No such Griffin existed, he is made up OR
    2) A Griffin existed but he was not son of Charles Martel OR
    3) He existed and he was son of Charles Martel but he left no children

    Will, Prince of Seborga
    Ehi mezzoseghino , spuntato come fungo in una notte!
    Chi cazzo sei per opinare ipotizzando! Ringrazia Dio se non ti hanno querelato... poichè da informazioni sei solo mezzoseghino...niente con il nulla..
    .Chi ci ha provato , ancora lamenta i dolori e lo strazio delle tasche rimaste vuote e bucate, con pendenze di reato di diffamazione :questa è arbitrarea diffamazione di parte!
    Sei niente , tra compari di merenda. Degno di querela, ma sei solo squattrianto... e ci limitiamo ad una pernacchia... Risparmiamo dispendio di altre energie!La principessa da otto secoli sui suoi documenti anamnestici è Aprile von Hohenstaufen Puoti.
    Lei è Lei , ossia la pronipote di Federico II ed Isabella d'Inghilterra e dei re Longobardi Gens Potitia , dell'antica Roma!E tu... non sei un cazzo!


    The Google translation is hilarious

    Hey half saw, popped like a mushroom overnight!
    Who the fuck are you to opine assuming! Thank God if you have not sued you ... as from information you are only half-saw ... nothing with nothing ..
    Those who have tried, still complain of the pain and the agony of the pockets left empty and pierced, with the pending crime of defamation: this is arbitrary partisan defamation!
    You are nothing, among friends of a snack. Worthy of a lawsuit, but you are just penniless ... and we limit ourselves to a raspberry ... We save waste of other energies! The princess for eight centuries on her anamnestic documents is Aprile von
    Hohenstaufen Puoti. II and Isabella of England and of the Longobard kings Gens Potitia, of ancient Rome! And you ... you are not a dick!

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Fri Oct 28 14:49:17 2022
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 2:46:34 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:

    Hey half saw, popped like a mushroom overnight!
    Who the fuck are you to opine assuming! Thank God if you have not sued you ... as from information you are only half-saw ... nothing with nothing ..
    Those who have tried, still complain of the pain and the agony of the pockets left empty and pierced, with the pending crime of defamation: this is arbitrary partisan defamation!
    You are nothing, among friends of a snack. Worthy of a lawsuit, but you are just penniless ... and we limit ourselves to a raspberry ... We save waste of other energies! The princess for eight centuries on her anamnestic documents is Aprile von
    Hohenstaufen Puoti. II and Isabella of England and of the Longobard kings Gens Potitia, of ancient Rome! And you ... you are not a dick!
    Amamnestic is a very odd word, it does not mean anything like what she thinks in this context.
    I wonder if she could not have meant onomastic
    That would at least be a tiny bit closer although I don't know what an "onomastic document" could possibly be

    On another note are the Lombard kings supposed to have some connection to the Roman Gens Potitia?

    From reviewing
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potitia_gens

    it appears the answer is no. No suggested connection to the Longobard kings

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Will Johnson on Fri Oct 28 14:46:32 2022
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:

    Hey half saw, popped like a mushroom overnight!
    Who the fuck are you to opine assuming! Thank God if you have not sued you ... as from information you are only half-saw ... nothing with nothing ..
    Those who have tried, still complain of the pain and the agony of the pockets left empty and pierced, with the pending crime of defamation: this is arbitrary partisan defamation!
    You are nothing, among friends of a snack. Worthy of a lawsuit, but you are just penniless ... and we limit ourselves to a raspberry ... We save waste of other energies! The princess for eight centuries on her anamnestic documents is Aprile von
    Hohenstaufen Puoti. II and Isabella of England and of the Longobard kings Gens Potitia, of ancient Rome! And you ... you are not a dick!

    Amamnestic is a very odd word, it does not mean anything like what she thinks in this context.
    I wonder if she could not have meant onomastic
    That would at least be a tiny bit closer although I don't know what an "onomastic document" could possibly be

    On another note are the Lombard kings supposed to have some connection to the Roman Gens Potitia?

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  • From taf@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Fri Oct 28 15:47:23 2022
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 2:46:34 PM UTC-7, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, October 28, 2022 at 11:04:06 AM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:

    The princess for eight centuries on her anamnestic documents is Aprile von Hohenstaufen Puoti. II and Isabella of England and of the Longobard kings Gens Potitia, of ancient Rome! And you ... you are not a dick!
    Amamnestic is a very odd word, it does not mean anything like what she thinks in this context.
    I wonder if she could not have meant onomastic

    'anamnestici' is an Italian masculine plural adjective, reflecting 'anamnesi', the definitions of which include 'reminiscence' and 'remembrance'. Not that knowing this makes the paragraph appreciably more coherent, but it probably indeed was the word
    intended.

    taf

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  • From Peter Stewart@21:1/5 to Yasmin von Hohenstaufen on Sat Oct 29 14:00:08 2022
    On 28-Oct-22 10:47 PM, Yasmin von Hohenstaufen wrote:
    Il giorno mercoledì 29 luglio 2020 alle 16:47:51 UTC+2 greenpri...@gmail.com ha scritto:
    Il giorno domenica 18 aprile 2010 22:33:22 UTC+2, wjhonson ha scritto:
    In a message dated 4/18/2010 10:10:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
    t...@clearwire.net writes:


    I took a look at her web page. Wow! This is a woman who is severely
    reality challenged when it comes to genealogy. She not only claims
    descent from an invented son of Emp. Frederick II, but also from
    "Griffen, son of Charles Martel".>>Ma chi sono questi 4 accattoni che si permettono di criticare i veri RE!Quattro mafiosi di m...si permettono di opinare su mille secoli di imperatori.Quattro spacciatori di frottole imbroglioni di un borgo
    improvvisatosi come accattoni, su un trono di millesecoli d'imperatori, operano deterrenza diffamatoria, che è come una masturbazione di eunuchi impotenti!Siete solo un malloppo di patetici imbroglioncelli, mistificatori, accattoni di merda .Avete
    sputtanato la mistica graalica del borgo con le vostre corone di cartone e di improvvisate massaia con la spocchia di serve rampanti che vogliono sostituire i veri Re.Fatevi le seghe !I veri Re restano re e voi non siete un cazzo!Buffoni di merda! Siete
    solo attori della peggiore pro loco del pessimo gusto!Solo creatori di una giostra che ha persino stufato...Buffoni di periferia!
    ------------------


    The french Wikipedia here (in translation)

    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&
    u=http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffon_%28carolingien%29&ei=xWnLS4uRFYO2swPF48SQAw&sa=X&oi=translate&
    ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CBAQ7gEwAg&
    prev=/search%3Fq%3DGriffin,%2Bson%2Bof%2B%2522Charles%2BMartel%2522%26num%3D50%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26client
    %3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DcvG%26sa%3DX%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official

    states that a Griffin did exist who was son of Charles Martel.

    Are you saying that:
    1) No such Griffin existed, he is made up OR
    2) A Griffin existed but he was not son of Charles Martel OR
    3) He existed and he was son of Charles Martel but he left no children

    Will, Prince of Seborga
    Ehi mezzoseghino , spuntato come fungo in una notte!
    Chi cazzo sei per opinare ipotizzando! Ringrazia Dio se non ti hanno querelato... poichè da informazioni sei solo mezzoseghino...niente con il nulla..
    .Chi ci ha provato , ancora lamenta i dolori e lo strazio delle tasche rimaste vuote e bucate, con pendenze di reato di diffamazione :questa è arbitrarea diffamazione di parte!
    Sei niente , tra compari di merenda. Degno di querela, ma sei solo squattrianto... e ci limitiamo ad una pernacchia... Risparmiamo dispendio di altre energie!La principessa da otto secoli sui suoi documenti anamnestici è Aprile von Hohenstaufen Puoti.
    Lei è Lei , ossia la pronipote di Federico II ed Isabella d'Inghilterra e dei re Longobardi Gens Potitia , dell'antica Roma!E tu... non sei un cazzo!


    A photograph of a lady oddly captioned "Princess Yasmin Aprile von
    Hohenstaufen Shop" can be seen here http://principessagelsominadisvevia.blogspot.com/2008/11/, along with
    her purported ancestry.

    According to this, Emperor Frederick II had a son born in 1240 to his
    third wife Isabella who was burdened with the names "Frederick Avril de
    Burey d'Anjou de Saint Genis Saintonge de Niphi Nerà Avril d'Imavrincour
    de Masquinade Weiblinghen Hohenstaufen Plantagenet". Golly, Avril
    squared for him yet Princess Yasmin Aprile has to be content with being
    called after the month just once.

    You would think that Emperor Frederick might have remembered at least
    one of these many names when he wrote his testament, but of course no
    such son was mentioned by him - presumably due to the small problem of non-existence.

    The "pedigree" continues with roughly equal plausibility, including a
    Caesar's salad of European royal and aristocratic surnames, defaulting
    to Habsburgs wherever imagination ran short.

    Enviably detached from sub-lunar reality.

    Peter Stewart

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  • From Peter Stewart@21:1/5 to Peter Stewart on Sat Oct 29 17:40:11 2022
    On 29-Oct-22 2:00 PM, Peter Stewart wrote:

    <snip>

    According to this, Emperor Frederick II had a son born in 1240 to his
    third wife Isabella

    It is worth noting that some historians consider there may have been a
    namesake son of Frederick by Isabella living in 1240, obviously an
    infant if so, but that he must have died young since the only evidence
    for the existence of such a child is the copy of a mandate dated 3 April
    in indiction 13 (1240) regarding arrangements for empress I. and the
    emperor's beloved son F. who was clearly hers too.

    Some other historians have rejected this as a copying error. There is
    certainly no evidence whatsoever that such a personage grew up much less
    left descendants who never figure in the record, who never claimed any
    skerrick of the imperial inheritance, who were never recognised by their relatives over more than eight centuries despite having bizarre
    "dynastic" names, and who never asserted rights beyond a single hilltop
    village in Italy that was allegedly scrounged somehow from monastic
    ownership.

    Peter Stewart


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