• Alice Morton Bradford

    From Paulo Ricardo Canedo@21:1/5 to All on Tue Sep 28 12:55:02 2021
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal descnts
    through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?

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  • From David Heiden@21:1/5 to Paulo Ricardo Canedo on Tue Dec 14 10:45:06 2021
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 3:55:04 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal descnts
    through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?
    Would also being very interested in this as Bradford is my Mayflower and Colonial Wars Societies ancestor.

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to dahe...@gmail.com on Tue Dec 14 13:08:24 2021
    On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 10:45:08 AM UTC-8, dahe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 3:55:04 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal descnts
    through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?
    Would also being very interested in this as Bradford is my Mayflower and Colonial Wars Societies ancestor.

    The pedigree of Morton is here

    https://books.google.com/books?id=TCsEAAAAIAAJ&dq=editions%3ALCCN16003198&lr&pg=RA4-PA172#v=onepage&q=Morton&f=false

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  • From David Heiden@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Tue Dec 14 13:43:22 2021
    On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:08:26 PM UTC-5, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 10:45:08 AM UTC-8, dahe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 3:55:04 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal
    descnts through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?
    Would also being very interested in this as Bradford is my Mayflower and Colonial Wars Societies ancestor.
    The pedigree of Morton is here

    https://books.google.com/books?id=TCsEAAAAIAAJ&dq=editions%3ALCCN16003198&lr&pg=RA4-PA172#v=onepage&q=Morton&f=false
    Has it been accepted by Charlemagne as a gateway ancestor, I descend from their son, William jr.

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to Paulo Ricardo Canedo on Tue Dec 14 18:02:23 2021
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:55:04 PM UTC-7, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal descnts
    through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?

    I assume you're referring to the one-page note by John G. Hunt titled “A Possible Added Morton-Bradford Connection” in NEHGR, vol. 111, p. 68 (1957).

    As to further research, you may want to read pp. 11-12 of the article at the link below, published in 2013, which questions some of Hunt's conclusions. (The link directly downloads the article as a PDF)
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjwponQ0OT0AhVqpFsKHYK6ADQQFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.njmayflower.org%2Fmember%2Fnews%2FNewsletterOct2013.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3vbPnI8D43948ijnzVOQvM

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Tue Dec 14 18:14:35 2021
    On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 1:08:26 PM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 10:45:08 AM UTC-8, dahe...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 3:55:04 PM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal
    descnts through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?
    Would also being very interested in this as Bradford is my Mayflower and Colonial Wars Societies ancestor.
    The pedigree of Morton is here

    https://books.google.com/books?id=TCsEAAAAIAAJ&dq=editions%3ALCCN16003198&lr&pg=RA4-PA172#v=onepage&q=Morton&f=false
    This may be "a" pedigree of Morton, but it's not "the" pedigree of Morton. It's only marginally useful in relation to this thread, as it simply mentions "Robert Morton of Morton, ancestor of Morton of Bawtry, Co. York" without mentioning his wife or any
    descendants.

    Two better pedigrees of this Morton family(albeit still with problems) can be found in the 1563/64 visitation of Yorkshire (Harleian Society, vol 16 pp. 212-213) and Hunter's Familiae Minorum Gentium, vol. 1 (Harleian Society, vol. 37 pp. 241ff).

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  • From Paulo Ricardo Canedo@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 15 05:57:35 2021
    A quarta-feira, 15 de dezembro de 2021 à(s) 02:02:25 UTC, jhigg...@yahoo.com escreveu:
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:55:04 PM UTC-7, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal descnts
    through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?
    I assume you're referring to the one-page note by John G. Hunt titled “A Possible Added Morton-Bradford Connection” in NEHGR, vol. 111, p. 68 (1957).

    As to further research, you may want to read pp. 11-12 of the article at the link below, published in 2013, which questions some of Hunt's conclusions. (The link directly downloads the article as a PDF)
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjwponQ0OT0AhVqpFsKHYK6ADQQFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.njmayflower.org%2Fmember%2Fnews%2FNewsletterOct2013.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3vbPnI8D43948ijnzVOQvM

    Thanks for this, John.

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to John Higgins on Wed Dec 15 17:17:34 2021
    On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 6:02:25 PM UTC-8, John Higgins wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:55:04 PM UTC-7, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal descnts
    through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?
    I assume you're referring to the one-page note by John G. Hunt titled “A Possible Added Morton-Bradford Connection” in NEHGR, vol. 111, p. 68 (1957).

    As to further research, you may want to read pp. 11-12 of the article at the link below, published in 2013, which questions some of Hunt's conclusions. (The link directly downloads the article as a PDF)
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjwponQ0OT0AhVqpFsKHYK6ADQQFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.njmayflower.org%2Fmember%2Fnews%2FNewsletterOct2013.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3vbPnI8D43948ijnzVOQvM

    Correction: the article is on pp. 12-13, not 11-12, of the above link.

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  • From Paulo Ricardo Canedo@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 16 01:13:10 2021
    A quinta-feira, 16 de dezembro de 2021 à(s) 01:17:35 UTC, jhigg...@yahoo.com escreveu:
    On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 6:02:25 PM UTC-8, John Higgins wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:55:04 PM UTC-7, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal
    descnts through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?
    I assume you're referring to the one-page note by John G. Hunt titled “A Possible Added Morton-Bradford Connection” in NEHGR, vol. 111, p. 68 (1957).

    As to further research, you may want to read pp. 11-12 of the article at the link below, published in 2013, which questions some of Hunt's conclusions. (The link directly downloads the article as a PDF)
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjwponQ0OT0AhVqpFsKHYK6ADQQFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.njmayflower.org%2Fmember%2Fnews%2FNewsletterOct2013.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3vbPnI8D43948ijnzVOQvM
    Correction: the article is on pp. 12-13, not 11-12, of the above link.
    I still found it, though.

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  • From David Heiden@21:1/5 to Paulo Ricardo Canedo on Fri Dec 17 10:08:33 2021
    On Thursday, December 16, 2021 at 4:13:12 AM UTC-5, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    A quinta-feira, 16 de dezembro de 2021 à(s) 01:17:35 UTC, jhigg...@yahoo.com escreveu:
    On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 6:02:25 PM UTC-8, John Higgins wrote:
    On Tuesday, September 28, 2021 at 12:55:04 PM UTC-7, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:
    In 1957, John G. Hunt speculated that the paternal grandmother of Governor William Bradford, passenger in the Mayflower, was a daughter of Robert Morton and Alice Markham named Alice. This would provide Governor William Bradford several royal
    descnts through Alice Markham including two from Edward I. Has any further research been done on this?
    I assume you're referring to the one-page note by John G. Hunt titled “A Possible Added Morton-Bradford Connection” in NEHGR, vol. 111, p. 68 (1957).

    As to further research, you may want to read pp. 11-12 of the article at the link below, published in 2013, which questions some of Hunt's conclusions. (The link directly downloads the article as a PDF)
    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjwponQ0OT0AhVqpFsKHYK6ADQQFnoECAIQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.njmayflower.org%2Fmember%2Fnews%2FNewsletterOct2013.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3vbPnI8D43948ijnzVOQvM
    Correction: the article is on pp. 12-13, not 11-12, of the above link.
    I still found it, though.
    I found as well

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