Comments interspersed.
a_swin...@my-deja.com wrote:
I'm trying to hunt down the source for the reference to 'MissThis is a crock.
(or 'Unknown') FitzAlan in the various geneologies of the Swynnerton
and De Peshall families on the web - they all seem to go back to Paul McBride and/or the IGI as far as I can see, and all have her married to John de Lumley de Peshall, and as the mother of William de Peshall and Robert de Peshall, aka Robert de Swynnerton.
Now in both the 1886
Bridgman History of the Swynnerton family and the 1915 Horace Parshall history of the Parshall (ie Peshall/Pearsall etc) family,Canon Bridgeman is acceptable. The Parshall Family is an interesting
piece of creative fictional genealogy. And as such, is not the accepted source for either the Peshall or Swinnerton branches of the family.
Robert de
Swynnerton is put as the son of Robert FitzAlan, grandson of theThe Wallop Family has been filmed. It is not my first choice for a
original Aslen (or Alan, Aelem etc etc), and no mention is made of this mysterious 'Miss FitzAlan', who seems to be put as a missing generation between the two, ie mother of one and daughter of the other. Of course
both books have been known to be vague and inaccurate at times, but
they are (so far) the accepted family histories, and at no point is it
ever stated that William de Peshall and Robert de Swynnerton are
brothers, as they are made out to be in all of the genealogies on the
net. So my question is, where is the original source for this
connection? McBride seems to rely on the Vernon Watney's 1928 'Wallop Family History' for later generations, so I guess it could come from
this book - does anyone know if this is the case, and if so, if there
are copies of it out there?
citation, nor my second, third, etc.
I am also curious to know if there are any other sources, other than Parshall's book, that can confirm the Corbeil-de Peshall descent.
Thanks in anticipation...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/1. Stephen de Uselwall or de Aspley and Richard de Peshall, brothers.
Before you buy.
2. Sir John Swinnerton of Little Sugnall, Staffs.; d. 1254.
3. Eleanor Peshall, 1st wife.
4. John Swinnerton og Little Sugnall; d.c. 1226.
5. Petronel/Pernel Doreslowe.
6. Stephen Peshall.
8. Robert FitzAelen of Swinnerton, Staffs.
16. Aelen.
Coll. Hist Staffs. [Walter Salt Soc.] 1914: 45, 50. _______________________________III N.S.: 75-96. Rev, C. Swynnerton. _______________________________VII< Pt. II."History of the Swinnertons"
This is the proper genealogy as I know it. As far as I know a Corbeil connection is fiction.
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