I came across the following:junior branch of the family, which held their lands of the senior line, had a daughter Avice, who married Sir Thomas de Hellebek. Possibly the property of this junior line eventually came to Peter de Ros and John Roos, and later to the Redmans of Levens.
“Hincaster”, Pages 168-176, Records Relating To the Barony of Kendale: Volume 2. (1924)
https://www.british-history.ac.uk/kendale-barony/vol2/pp168-176
The pleadings in a suit in 1338 preserve the descent of 4 generations of Gernets, the last, Adam, son of John Gernet, having alienated his estate here to Sir Walter de Stirkeland in the time of Edward II. Adam son of Benedict Gernet, representing a
1272–1307 Avice daughter (and ? heir) of Adam de Henecastre married Thomas de Hellebeck, knt. Nicolson and Burn, Hist. Westmorland i, 202.all which Richard de Musgrave quitted claim in the 29th year of that king [1300/01]
1301 Richard de Musgrave conveyed part of his moiety of Orton to Adam de Henecastre, with whose daughter, Avice, the same came in marriage to Sir Thomas de Helbeck; Nicolson and Burn, i, 488.
A variation of the same is repeated in “The History and Antiquities of the Counties of Westmoreland and Cumberland, Vol 1, page 581 by Joseph Nicolson and Richard Burn (1777)
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_History_and_Antiquities_of_the_Count/zeEuAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Wido+de+Hellebeck&pg=PA581&printsec=frontcover
5. Sir Thomas de Hellebeck, son of the last Sir Thomas, lived in the time of King Edward the first. He married Avicia daughter of Adam of Henecastre, and with her had lands in Little Stirkeland, Overton, Sunbiggin, Raisbeck, Cotslar, and Keldlyth. To
This article goes on to list Thomas and Avice’s 6 children (Thomas, Edmund, Alice, Alane [Alan], Isabel and Margaret) and does not mention another marriage.
However in Parishes (East Ward): St Theobald, Musgrave, Pages 175 - 182
The Later Records Relating To North Westmorland Or the Barony of Appleby. (1932) https://www.british-history.ac.uk/n-westmorland-records/vol8/pp175-182
1292
By a fine levied 20 Edw. I [1291/1292] it was found that Thomas de Musgrave, who died before 1287, left two daughters and heirs, Avicia widow to Thomas de Helbeck, and Isabel widow to Patrick de Castle Carrock.
Who was Avice the wife of Thomas Hellebeck, Avice Henecater or Avice Musgrave? Did he have 2 wives named Avice?
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