I'm very interesting in the hypotheses Christian Settipani puts forth in books like "Les Ancestres de Charlemagne." I don't read French but I can take pictures to translate a lot, and the charts do not require much knowledge of French. However, he hasmany names in parenthesis, for example:
"(ANICIA) ---> Turrania Anicia Iuliana."
I can't seem to find an explanation for what that means. My thought was that the only known info is that there is a daughter, and the name in parenthesis is used to mean "daughter of Anicia" but I'm unsure and would love someone to shed light on this!
On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 10:34:04 PM UTC+2, Jesse S Northen wrote:has many names in parenthesis, for example:
I'm very interesting in the hypotheses Christian Settipani puts forth in books like "Les Ancestres de Charlemagne." I don't read French but I can take pictures to translate a lot, and the charts do not require much knowledge of French. However, he
"(ANICIA) ---> Turrania Anicia Iuliana."
I can't seem to find an explanation for what that means. My thought was that the only known info is that there is a daughter, and the name in parenthesis is used to mean "daughter of Anicia" but I'm unsure and would love someone to shed light on this!
well, not only with brackets but also with square brackets. The brackets for me indicate to be very careful, because it is an assumption and not a documented fact.Thanks
JesseThe fact that the name was put between brackets generally means that Settipani did not find a documented name for this person and assumes the person must have had the name that he put between brackets. You will see this practised by other authors as
In this particular case, as Peter already stated, "Anicia" should be seen as the Roman variant of a surname: Anicia was used for all women of the Roman "gens" Anicius.consul in 156, and the only thing that can be assumed of the 3 generations between these two persons is that their name probably will have been Marcus Ceionius (Ceionius for sure because it was the name of the gens, Marcus probably because the Roman
If you look at the table on page 292, you see for example 3 generations of (M. Ceionius). This should be read as: Marcus Ceionius Varus, Roman praefectus in 271, in Settipani's opinion was a second great-grandson of Marcus Ceionius Silvanus, Roman
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I'm very interesting in the hypotheses Christian Settipani puts forth in books like "Les Ancestres de Charlemagne." I don't read French but I can take pictures to translate a lot, and the charts do not require much knowledge of French. However, he hasmany names in parenthesis, for example:
"(ANICIA) ---> Turrania Anicia Iuliana."
I can't seem to find an explanation for what that means. My thought was that the only known info is that there is a daughter, and the name in parenthesis is used to mean "daughter of Anicia" but I'm unsure and would love someone to shed light on this!
Thanks
Jesse
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