• Re: Brereton of Malpas and Shockley

    From J. Sardina@21:1/5 to Kay Allen AG on Tue May 10 20:32:06 2022
    On Tuesday, January 14, 2003 at 12:10:41 PM UTC-5, Kay Allen AG wrote:
    Thanks muchly. All instances of assistance and colliegiality shall be duly noted
    and expressed.
    K
    The...@aol.com wrote:
    Tuesday, 14 January, 2003

    Dear Kay,

    The following shows the descent from Corbet of Moreton Corbet, co. Salop. to Brereton of Malpas.

    This information is largely due to the courtesy and collegiality of
    Robert O'Connor, as will be evident from the notes.

    Good luck, and good hunting.

    John *

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    1 Sir Thomas Corbet
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    Birth: 25 Dec 1281[1]
    Death: 1310[1]
    Father: Sir Robert Corbet (-1300)

    Knt., of Moreton Corbet and Wattlesborough, co. Salop

    Spouse: Amice[1]

    Children: Sir Robert (1304-1375)

    1.1 Sir Robert Corbet
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    Birth: 1304[1]
    Death: 1375[1]

    Knt., of Moreton Corbet and Wattlesborough, co. Salop.

    Spouse: Elizabeth Le Strange
    Father: Fulk Le Strange (ca1267-<1323), Lord Strange of Blackmere
    Mother: Eleanor Giffard
    Marr: bef Mar 1323[1]

    Children: Thomas (-<1363)
    Fulk (-1388)
    Roger (-<1395)
    Joan

    1.1.1 Thomas Corbet
    ----------------------------------------
    Death: bef 1363, d.v.p.[1]

    heir apparent of his father[1]

    Children: Elizabeth (ca1357->1423)

    1.1.1.1 Elizabeth Corbet
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    Birth: ca 1357[2]
    Death: aft 1423[1]

    her inheritance (or maritagium) included the manors of Besseford and Ballesley, co. Salop

    she had full seisin of same following the inquest on her husband's
    death, 1394[2]

    Spouse: Sir John de Ipstones, of Ipstones and Blymhill, co. Staffs.
    Death: 23 Feb 1394, London [murdered][3]
    Father: John de Ipstones (-<1364)
    Mother: NN de Cresswell
    Marr: bef 1373[2]

    Children: Sir William (<1373-1399)

    1.1.1.1.1 Sir William de Ipstones
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    Birth: bef 23 Feb 1373[3]
    Death: 17 Oct 1399[4],[3]

    Knt., of Blymhill and Ipstones, co. Staffs.

    2nd husband of Maud de Swinnerton[5]

    Spouse: Maud de Swinnerton
    Birth: ca 1370[5]
    Father: Sir Robert de Swinnerton (-<1396)
    Mother: Elizabeth de Beke

    Children: Alice (ca1396-)
    Christiana (ca1393-)

    1.1.1.1.1.1 Alice de Ipstones
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    Birth: ca 1396[3]

    heiress of her father[4]

    identified as wife of Randle Brereton, and mother of his heir Randle (pedigree of Brereton of Honford)[6]

    identified as
    ".... d. to ..... Ipstons of Ipstons in Comitatu Staff. "
    [Pedigree of Brereton of Malpas, Visitation of Cheshire (1580)][7]

    Spouse: Randle Brereton, of Malpas, co. Chester
    Death: aft 1436[4]
    Father: Sir William Brereton (-ca1381)
    Mother: Margaret Done

    Children: Randle (ca1417->1468) of Malpas, co. Chester and
    Ipstones, co. Staffs.
    William (ca1419-) of Burras, co. Denbigh

    1.1.1.1.1.1.1 William Brereton
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    Birth: ca 1419[4]

    of Burras, co. Denbigh

    Pedigree of Brereton of Malpas [Harl. 1424, fo. 17] states :

    ' William Brereton of Burres in Com. Denbigh "[7]

    identified as William Brereton of Burros[2]

    Spouse: Katherine Wilde
    Father: Thomas Wilde
    Mother: Angharad ferch Ieuan
    Marr: ca 1440[4]

    Children: Maud
    Edward

    1. Pedigree, Corbet of Moreton Corbet
    Descent from Roger Corbet
    comp. by Robert O'Connor
    roco...@es.co.nz
    2. "'The Manor and Parish of Blymhill'," Collections for a History of Staffordshire, The William Salt Archaeological Society, Birmingham: Houghton and Hammond, Scotland Passage, Vol. I (1880).
    3. Pedigree, Ipstones of Ipstones and Blymhill
    Descent from William de Ipstones
    comp. by Robert O'Connor
    roco...@es.co.nz
    4. Pedigree, Brereton of Brereton
    Descent from Sir William de Brereton
    comp. by Robert O'Connor
    roco...@es.co.nz
    5. "The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215," Frederick L. Weis, Th. D., Gen
    Pub Co., Baltimore, MD, 5th ed., 1997 (W. L. Sheppard Jr & David
    Faris).
    6. "Baronetcies of England, Ireland and Scotland," Burke's, online: FamilyTreeMaker.com (extr 11/14/2000)
    7. "The Visitation of Cheshire," Harleian Series, Vol. 18, Vol. 18,
    pp. 43 et seq. [Brereton of Malpas].


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    * John P. Ravilious


    Hello,

    Coming back to this old posting, I have been trying to follow the line from Corbet to Brereton.

    Has anybody found any information on the wife of sir Thomas Corbet, and mother of Elizabeth Corbet, who married sir John de Ipstones?

    There is a wikipedia article about these Corbets, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Corbet_(died_1395), and it only provides her name as Elizabeth.

    Further up in the same family, a previous Thomas Corbet, died in 1310, is shown with a wife name Amicia, but with no details about her. Has she been identified?

    J. Sardina

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