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This is the first part of a two part post. The first part below concerns the identification of Joan Bittlesgate (living 1450), wife of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442). The second part will concern her parentage and ancestry.
Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 17-19 includes an account of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442), which individual was the grandfather of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, wife of Sir John Grey and King Edward IV of England. Regarding his marriage, the following
"He married _____, said to have been daughter and heiress of John Bedlesgate by _____, daughter and heiress of William Beauchamp of Wellington. Somerset." END OF QUOTE.Arms, N.S. vol. 9, 1992, p. 182." END OF QUOTE
The source for this information is given in footnote d on page 19:
"Arch. Cantiana, vol. i, p. 178, where their armorial brass in Maidstone church is reproduced from the Church Notes of Sir Edward Dering (circa 1630)." END OF QUOTE
Complete Peerage 14 (1998): 549 amends the identification of Richard Wydville's wife as follows:
"[Richard Wydeville] married Joan, daughter of Thomas Bittelsgate of Knighteston, co. Devon, by Joan, daughter of Sir John Beauchamp of Lillesdon." END OF QUOTE.
The information in footnote d, page 19, in the earlier version of Complete Peerage, Volume 11, is replaced by the following documentation in Volume 14 identifying Richard Wydeville's wife as Joan Bittlesgate:
"Arch. Cantiana, vol. 64, pp. 120-124, reproducing their memorial brass from the Church Notes of Sir Edward Dering (circa 1630) and an extract from a petition of 1475 of Anthony, Earl Rivers, naming Joan's father as Thomas Bittlesgate (see also Coat of
An abstract of the original Chancery petition of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, cited by Complete Peerage, Volume 14, is available on the online Discovery catalogue. The petition in the catalogue is dated as being 1475-1480, or 1483-1485, not 1475as claimed by Complete Peerage. The abstract reads as follows:
Reference: C 1/54/3Lytelcombe Ovir Gabriell & Maydencombe with th'appurtenances in the countie of Devon in his demene as of fee ... " END OF QUOTE.
Short title: Earl Rivers v Knolle.
Plaintiffs: Anthony, earl Rivers, son of Richard, son of Jane, daughter of Thomas Bittellesgate, esquire, late of Knyghsteton.
Defendants: John, son and heir of John Knolle, feoffee to uses.
Subject: Manors of Knyghsteton, Sperkeheys, Lytelcombe, Ovir Gabriell, and Haydencombe. Devon. END OF QUOTE.
The original Chancery petition of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, cited above can be viewed online on the Anglo-American Legal Tradition website. It reads in part as follows:
"Antoni Erle Ryvers cosyn & heire to Thomas Bitellesgate Esquier late of Knyghsteton that is to say sone of Richard sone to Jane doughter to the said Thomas that where the said Thomas was seased of the manor of Knyghsteton aforesaid Sperkeheys
Reference: Early Chancery Proceedings, C l/54/3 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/ChP/C1no54/IMG_0006.htm).Thomas Bittlesgate. This record reads as follows:
Interestingly, there is another record related to the above mentioned petition found in the Discovery Catalogue. This record is dated 1478, and supports the statement of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, that he was the “cousin and heir” of
“Devon Records Office: Petre, 123M/TB472Humfrey Courteney esq.
Description: Knyghsteton, 25 September 18 Edward IV [1478]
Feoffment in trust
John Knollys of Taunton, Somerset, gent. son and heir of John Knollys recently of Uskombe, Devon, gent. deceased to Anthony Wilevile Earl Rivers, kinsman and heir of Thomas Bitellesgate esq. recently lord of Knygsteton [in Ottery St Mary] deceased and
Manors of Knyghsteton, Sperkeheys, Litelcombe, Overgabriell, Maidencombe and Charlton (which descended to Knollys on his father's death, and which his father had by the gift of Thomas Bittellesgate for the use of Thomas), to hold to the Earl andCourteney to the use of the Earl. (Knyghsteton is in Ottery St Mary, Sparkeheys in Colyton, Litelcombe in Branscombe, Maidencombe in Stokeinteignhead. Overgabriell has not been identified. Charlton may be in the parish of Charleton or may be in Upottery).
Witnesses: John Crokker knight, Walter Courteney, Richard Eggecombe. END OF QUOTE.Richard Wydeville, the following seven records confirm that her given name was Joan. In all of these records below, she is called Joan, whereas Anthony Wydeville her grandson referred to her as Jane. It should be noted that the given names Joan and Jane
Reference: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ca26c71d-aded-46d1-93f8-9e4e51a2bb58
So we have three versions of the identity of Joan, wife of Richard Wydeville, Esq.
1. Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 17-19: Joan, wife of Richard Wydeville, is “_____, said to have been daughter and heiress of John Bedlesgate by _____, daughter and heiress of William Beauchamp of Wellington. Somerset."
2. Complete Peerage 14 (1998): 549: Joan wife of Richard Wydeville, is “Joan, daughter of Thomas Bittelsgate of Knighteston, co. Devon, by Joan, daughter of Sir John Beauchamp of Lillesdon."
3. Early Chancery Proceedings, C l/54/3 identifies Joan wife of Richard Wydeville as “Jane, daughter of Thomas Bitellesgate Esquier late of Knyghsteton, Devon.
So what is a truth? Inasmuch as Anthony Wydeville, Esq., was surely in a position to know his grandmother’s name and parentage, the third version above is obviously the correct answer. As for further evidence of Joan Bittlesgate being the wife of
1. In 1415 Richard Wodevile, donsel, nobleman, and Joan his wife, noblewoman, of the diocese of Lincoln, were granted a papal indult for a portable altar. Reference: Papal Regs.: Letters 6 (1904): 363.1031f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no732/aCP40no732fronts/IMG_1031.htm).
2. In 1428 Richard Wydeville and Joan his wife leased a manor adjoining LaMote, Kent from Archbishop Chichele for a term of 50 years.
3. On 25 Feb. 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, granted a release of the manor of Salford, Bedfordshire to Archbishop Chichele.
4. On 4 July 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, was granted license to hold the manor and advowson of the church of Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire for life.
5. On 3 August 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, presented to the church of Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire.
6. In Hilary term 1444 Thomas Davy, Citizen and tailor of London, sued Joan Wydevylles, of Mote, Kent, widow, and John Manning, of the same, yeoman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £24. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/732, image
7. In Trinity term 1450 Alexander Haysand, Citizen and draper of London, sued Joan widow of Richard Wodevyle, Esq., of Mote in Maidstone, Kent in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £11 20d. [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/758, image680d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no758/bCP40no758dorses/IMG_0680.htm)].
In summary, we see contemporary evidence proves that Richard Wydeville’s wife was Joan (or Jane), daughter of Thomas Bittlesgate, Esq. We learn that Joan Bittlesgate was living as late as Trinity term 1450. In the next post, the parentage andancestry of Joan Bittlesgate will be more fully examine.
For interest’s sake, I have copied below my current file account of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442) and his wife, Joan Bittlesgate (living Trinity term 1450).King’s esquire, Seneschal of Normandy, Treasurer-General of Normandy, Captain of Caen and Guînes, Captain of Gisors and la Tour de Chaumont, 1421–2, Lieutenant of Calais, 1427–32, 1435–6, Sheriff of Northamptonshire, 1437–38, Chamberlain of
Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist
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RICHARD WYDEVILLE (or WYDEVYLL, WYDEVILL, WIDEVYLLE, WODEVYLE), Esq., of Mote (in Maidstone), Kent, Salford, Bedfordshire, Grafton Regis and Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire, etc., and of Calais, seigneur of Préaux and Dangu (both in Normandy),
References:Excerpta Historica (1831): 249–250 (marriage settlement of William Haute, Esq., and Joan daughter of Richard Wydevill, Esq., dated 1429). Baker, Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836–41): 160–167 (Wideville/Wydeville ped.: “Richard de Wideville,
Collins, Peerage of England 1 (1714): 304–307 (sub Earls Rivers, Widville). Bridges, Hist. & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 299–301 (Wydvill ped.: “Richard Wydville = Joan d. and h. of …. Beauchamp in Somersetshire.”), 333. Bentley,
A terça-feira, 3 de maio de 2022 à(s) 02:21:33 UTC+1, Douglas Richardson escreveu:following information is provided by Complete Peerage:
Dear Newsgroup ~
This is the first part of a two part post. The first part below concerns the identification of Joan Bittlesgate (living 1450), wife of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442). The second part will concern her parentage and ancestry.
Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 17-19 includes an account of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442), which individual was the grandfather of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, wife of Sir John Grey and King Edward IV of England. Regarding his marriage, the
of Arms, N.S. vol. 9, 1992, p. 182." END OF QUOTE"He married _____, said to have been daughter and heiress of John Bedlesgate by _____, daughter and heiress of William Beauchamp of Wellington. Somerset." END OF QUOTE.
The source for this information is given in footnote d on page 19:
"Arch. Cantiana, vol. i, p. 178, where their armorial brass in Maidstone church is reproduced from the Church Notes of Sir Edward Dering (circa 1630)." END OF QUOTE
Complete Peerage 14 (1998): 549 amends the identification of Richard Wydville's wife as follows:
"[Richard Wydeville] married Joan, daughter of Thomas Bittelsgate of Knighteston, co. Devon, by Joan, daughter of Sir John Beauchamp of Lillesdon." END OF QUOTE.
The information in footnote d, page 19, in the earlier version of Complete Peerage, Volume 11, is replaced by the following documentation in Volume 14 identifying Richard Wydeville's wife as Joan Bittlesgate:
"Arch. Cantiana, vol. 64, pp. 120-124, reproducing their memorial brass from the Church Notes of Sir Edward Dering (circa 1630) and an extract from a petition of 1475 of Anthony, Earl Rivers, naming Joan's father as Thomas Bittlesgate (see also Coat
1475 as claimed by Complete Peerage. The abstract reads as follows:An abstract of the original Chancery petition of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, cited by Complete Peerage, Volume 14, is available on the online Discovery catalogue. The petition in the catalogue is dated as being 1475-1480, or 1483-1485, not
Lytelcombe Ovir Gabriell & Maydencombe with th'appurtenances in the countie of Devon in his demene as of fee ... " END OF QUOTE.Reference: C 1/54/3
Short title: Earl Rivers v Knolle.
Plaintiffs: Anthony, earl Rivers, son of Richard, son of Jane, daughter of Thomas Bittellesgate, esquire, late of Knyghsteton.
Defendants: John, son and heir of John Knolle, feoffee to uses.
Subject: Manors of Knyghsteton, Sperkeheys, Lytelcombe, Ovir Gabriell, and Haydencombe. Devon. END OF QUOTE.
The original Chancery petition of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, cited above can be viewed online on the Anglo-American Legal Tradition website. It reads in part as follows:
"Antoni Erle Ryvers cosyn & heire to Thomas Bitellesgate Esquier late of Knyghsteton that is to say sone of Richard sone to Jane doughter to the said Thomas that where the said Thomas was seased of the manor of Knyghsteton aforesaid Sperkeheys
Thomas Bittlesgate. This record reads as follows:Reference: Early Chancery Proceedings, C l/54/3 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/ChP/C1no54/IMG_0006.htm).
Interestingly, there is another record related to the above mentioned petition found in the Discovery Catalogue. This record is dated 1478, and supports the statement of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, that he was the “cousin and heir” of
and Humfrey Courteney esq.“Devon Records Office: Petre, 123M/TB472
Description: Knyghsteton, 25 September 18 Edward IV [1478]
Feoffment in trust
John Knollys of Taunton, Somerset, gent. son and heir of John Knollys recently of Uskombe, Devon, gent. deceased to Anthony Wilevile Earl Rivers, kinsman and heir of Thomas Bitellesgate esq. recently lord of Knygsteton [in Ottery St Mary] deceased
Courteney to the use of the Earl. (Knyghsteton is in Ottery St Mary, Sparkeheys in Colyton, Litelcombe in Branscombe, Maidencombe in Stokeinteignhead. Overgabriell has not been identified. Charlton may be in the parish of Charleton or may be in Upottery).Manors of Knyghsteton, Sperkeheys, Litelcombe, Overgabriell, Maidencombe and Charlton (which descended to Knollys on his father's death, and which his father had by the gift of Thomas Bittellesgate for the use of Thomas), to hold to the Earl and
Richard Wydeville, the following seven records confirm that her given name was Joan. In all of these records below, she is called Joan, whereas Anthony Wydeville her grandson referred to her as Jane. It should be noted that the given names Joan and JaneWitnesses: John Crokker knight, Walter Courteney, Richard Eggecombe. END OF QUOTE.
Reference: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ca26c71d-aded-46d1-93f8-9e4e51a2bb58
So we have three versions of the identity of Joan, wife of Richard Wydeville, Esq.
1. Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 17-19: Joan, wife of Richard Wydeville, is “_____, said to have been daughter and heiress of John Bedlesgate by _____, daughter and heiress of William Beauchamp of Wellington. Somerset."
2. Complete Peerage 14 (1998): 549: Joan wife of Richard Wydeville, is “Joan, daughter of Thomas Bittelsgate of Knighteston, co. Devon, by Joan, daughter of Sir John Beauchamp of Lillesdon."
3. Early Chancery Proceedings, C l/54/3 identifies Joan wife of Richard Wydeville as “Jane, daughter of Thomas Bitellesgate Esquier late of Knyghsteton, Devon.
So what is a truth? Inasmuch as Anthony Wydeville, Esq., was surely in a position to know his grandmother’s name and parentage, the third version above is obviously the correct answer. As for further evidence of Joan Bittlesgate being the wife of
image 1031f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no732/aCP40no732fronts/IMG_1031.htm).1. In 1415 Richard Wodevile, donsel, nobleman, and Joan his wife, noblewoman, of the diocese of Lincoln, were granted a papal indult for a portable altar. Reference: Papal Regs.: Letters 6 (1904): 363.
2. In 1428 Richard Wydeville and Joan his wife leased a manor adjoining LaMote, Kent from Archbishop Chichele for a term of 50 years.
3. On 25 Feb. 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, granted a release of the manor of Salford, Bedfordshire to Archbishop Chichele.
4. On 4 July 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, was granted license to hold the manor and advowson of the church of Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire for life.
5. On 3 August 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, presented to the church of Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire.
6. In Hilary term 1444 Thomas Davy, Citizen and tailor of London, sued Joan Wydevylles, of Mote, Kent, widow, and John Manning, of the same, yeoman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £24. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/732,
image 680d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no758/bCP40no758dorses/IMG_0680.htm)].7. In Trinity term 1450 Alexander Haysand, Citizen and draper of London, sued Joan widow of Richard Wodevyle, Esq., of Mote in Maidstone, Kent in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £11 20d. [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/758,
ancestry of Joan Bittlesgate will be more fully examine.In summary, we see contemporary evidence proves that Richard Wydeville’s wife was Joan (or Jane), daughter of Thomas Bittlesgate, Esq. We learn that Joan Bittlesgate was living as late as Trinity term 1450. In the next post, the parentage and
Normandy), King’s esquire, Seneschal of Normandy, Treasurer-General of Normandy, Captain of Caen and Guînes, Captain of Gisors and la Tour de Chaumont, 1421–2, Lieutenant of Calais, 1427–32, 1435–6, Sheriff of Northamptonshire, 1437–38,For interest’s sake, I have copied below my current file account of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442) and his wife, Joan Bittlesgate (living Trinity term 1450).
Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist
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RICHARD WYDEVILLE (or WYDEVYLL, WYDEVILL, WIDEVYLLE, WODEVYLE), Esq., of Mote (in Maidstone), Kent, Salford, Bedfordshire, Grafton Regis and Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire, etc., and of Calais, seigneur of Préaux and Dangu (both in
Excerpta Historica (1831): 249–250 (marriage settlement of William Haute, Esq., and Joan daughter of Richard Wydevill, Esq., dated 1429). Baker, Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836–41): 160–167 (Wideville/Wydeville ped.: “Richard de Wideville,References:
Collins, Peerage of England 1 (1714): 304–307 (sub Earls Rivers, Widville). Bridges, Hist. & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 299–301 (Wydvill ped.: “Richard Wydville = Joan d. and h. of …. Beauchamp in Somersetshire.”), 333. Bentley,
Thanks for this, Douglas. It's great work.
On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:05:23 AM UTC-4, Paulo Ricardo Canedo wrote:following information is provided by Complete Peerage:
A terça-feira, 3 de maio de 2022 à(s) 02:21:33 UTC+1, Douglas Richardson escreveu:
Dear Newsgroup ~
This is the first part of a two part post. The first part below concerns the identification of Joan Bittlesgate (living 1450), wife of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442). The second part will concern her parentage and ancestry.
Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 17-19 includes an account of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442), which individual was the grandfather of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, wife of Sir John Grey and King Edward IV of England. Regarding his marriage, the
Coat of Arms, N.S. vol. 9, 1992, p. 182." END OF QUOTE"He married _____, said to have been daughter and heiress of John Bedlesgate by _____, daughter and heiress of William Beauchamp of Wellington. Somerset." END OF QUOTE.
The source for this information is given in footnote d on page 19: "Arch. Cantiana, vol. i, p. 178, where their armorial brass in Maidstone church is reproduced from the Church Notes of Sir Edward Dering (circa 1630)." END OF QUOTE
Complete Peerage 14 (1998): 549 amends the identification of Richard Wydville's wife as follows:
"[Richard Wydeville] married Joan, daughter of Thomas Bittelsgate of Knighteston, co. Devon, by Joan, daughter of Sir John Beauchamp of Lillesdon." END OF QUOTE.
The information in footnote d, page 19, in the earlier version of Complete Peerage, Volume 11, is replaced by the following documentation in Volume 14 identifying Richard Wydeville's wife as Joan Bittlesgate:
"Arch. Cantiana, vol. 64, pp. 120-124, reproducing their memorial brass from the Church Notes of Sir Edward Dering (circa 1630) and an extract from a petition of 1475 of Anthony, Earl Rivers, naming Joan's father as Thomas Bittlesgate (see also
1475 as claimed by Complete Peerage. The abstract reads as follows:An abstract of the original Chancery petition of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, cited by Complete Peerage, Volume 14, is available on the online Discovery catalogue. The petition in the catalogue is dated as being 1475-1480, or 1483-1485, not
Lytelcombe Ovir Gabriell & Maydencombe with th'appurtenances in the countie of Devon in his demene as of fee ... " END OF QUOTE.Reference: C 1/54/3
Short title: Earl Rivers v Knolle.
Plaintiffs: Anthony, earl Rivers, son of Richard, son of Jane, daughter of Thomas Bittellesgate, esquire, late of Knyghsteton.
Defendants: John, son and heir of John Knolle, feoffee to uses.
Subject: Manors of Knyghsteton, Sperkeheys, Lytelcombe, Ovir Gabriell, and Haydencombe. Devon. END OF QUOTE.
The original Chancery petition of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, cited above can be viewed online on the Anglo-American Legal Tradition website. It reads in part as follows:
"Antoni Erle Ryvers cosyn & heire to Thomas Bitellesgate Esquier late of Knyghsteton that is to say sone of Richard sone to Jane doughter to the said Thomas that where the said Thomas was seased of the manor of Knyghsteton aforesaid Sperkeheys
Thomas Bittlesgate. This record reads as follows:Reference: Early Chancery Proceedings, C l/54/3 (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/ChP/C1no54/IMG_0006.htm).
Interestingly, there is another record related to the above mentioned petition found in the Discovery Catalogue. This record is dated 1478, and supports the statement of Anthony Wydeville, 2nd Lord Rivers, that he was the “cousin and heir” of
and Humfrey Courteney esq.“Devon Records Office: Petre, 123M/TB472
Description: Knyghsteton, 25 September 18 Edward IV [1478]
Feoffment in trust
John Knollys of Taunton, Somerset, gent. son and heir of John Knollys recently of Uskombe, Devon, gent. deceased to Anthony Wilevile Earl Rivers, kinsman and heir of Thomas Bitellesgate esq. recently lord of Knygsteton [in Ottery St Mary] deceased
Courteney to the use of the Earl. (Knyghsteton is in Ottery St Mary, Sparkeheys in Colyton, Litelcombe in Branscombe, Maidencombe in Stokeinteignhead. Overgabriell has not been identified. Charlton may be in the parish of Charleton or may be in Upottery).Manors of Knyghsteton, Sperkeheys, Litelcombe, Overgabriell, Maidencombe and Charlton (which descended to Knollys on his father's death, and which his father had by the gift of Thomas Bittellesgate for the use of Thomas), to hold to the Earl and
Richard Wydeville, the following seven records confirm that her given name was Joan. In all of these records below, she is called Joan, whereas Anthony Wydeville her grandson referred to her as Jane. It should be noted that the given names Joan and JaneWitnesses: John Crokker knight, Walter Courteney, Richard Eggecombe. END OF QUOTE.
Reference: https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/ca26c71d-aded-46d1-93f8-9e4e51a2bb58
So we have three versions of the identity of Joan, wife of Richard Wydeville, Esq.
1. Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 17-19: Joan, wife of Richard Wydeville, is “_____, said to have been daughter and heiress of John Bedlesgate by _____, daughter and heiress of William Beauchamp of Wellington. Somerset."
2. Complete Peerage 14 (1998): 549: Joan wife of Richard Wydeville, is “Joan, daughter of Thomas Bittelsgate of Knighteston, co. Devon, by Joan, daughter of Sir John Beauchamp of Lillesdon."
3. Early Chancery Proceedings, C l/54/3 identifies Joan wife of Richard Wydeville as “Jane, daughter of Thomas Bitellesgate Esquier late of Knyghsteton, Devon.
So what is a truth? Inasmuch as Anthony Wydeville, Esq., was surely in a position to know his grandmother’s name and parentage, the third version above is obviously the correct answer. As for further evidence of Joan Bittlesgate being the wife of
image 1031f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no732/aCP40no732fronts/IMG_1031.htm).1. In 1415 Richard Wodevile, donsel, nobleman, and Joan his wife, noblewoman, of the diocese of Lincoln, were granted a papal indult for a portable altar. Reference: Papal Regs.: Letters 6 (1904): 363.
2. In 1428 Richard Wydeville and Joan his wife leased a manor adjoining LaMote, Kent from Archbishop Chichele for a term of 50 years.
3. On 25 Feb. 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, granted a release of the manor of Salford, Bedfordshire to Archbishop Chichele.
4. On 4 July 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, was granted license to hold the manor and advowson of the church of Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire for life.
5. On 3 August 1442 Joan, widow of Richard Wydeville, presented to the church of Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire.
6. In Hilary term 1444 Thomas Davy, Citizen and tailor of London, sued Joan Wydevylles, of Mote, Kent, widow, and John Manning, of the same, yeoman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £24. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/732,
image 680d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no758/bCP40no758dorses/IMG_0680.htm)].7. In Trinity term 1450 Alexander Haysand, Citizen and draper of London, sued Joan widow of Richard Wodevyle, Esq., of Mote in Maidstone, Kent in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £11 20d. [Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/758,
ancestry of Joan Bittlesgate will be more fully examine.In summary, we see contemporary evidence proves that Richard Wydeville’s wife was Joan (or Jane), daughter of Thomas Bittlesgate, Esq. We learn that Joan Bittlesgate was living as late as Trinity term 1450. In the next post, the parentage and
Normandy), King’s esquire, Seneschal of Normandy, Treasurer-General of Normandy, Captain of Caen and Guînes, Captain of Gisors and la Tour de Chaumont, 1421–2, Lieutenant of Calais, 1427–32, 1435–6, Sheriff of Northamptonshire, 1437–38,For interest’s sake, I have copied below my current file account of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442) and his wife, Joan Bittlesgate (living Trinity term 1450).
Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist
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RICHARD WYDEVILLE (or WYDEVYLL, WYDEVILL, WIDEVYLLE, WODEVYLE), Esq., of Mote (in Maidstone), Kent, Salford, Bedfordshire, Grafton Regis and Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire, etc., and of Calais, seigneur of Préaux and Dangu (both in
Excerpta Historica (1831): 249–250 (marriage settlement of William Haute, Esq., and Joan daughter of Richard Wydevill, Esq., dated 1429). Baker, Hist. & Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836–41): 160–167 (Wideville/Wydeville ped.: “Richard de Wideville,References:
Collins, Peerage of England 1 (1714): 304–307 (sub Earls Rivers, Widville). Bridges, Hist. & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 299–301 (Wydvill ped.: “Richard Wydville = Joan d. and h. of …. Beauchamp in Somersetshire.”), 333. Bentley,
Thanks for this, Douglas. It's great work.Yes, very interesting.
The name Bittlesgate is also often given as Bodulgate or even Bodulgath.
See the 1429 power of attorney "from John Passhele to William Banawa [?] and Richard Leomynstre, to deliver seisin to Richard Wodevile, William Haute, Thomas Bodulgate, Esquires ..."
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Memorials_of_the_Family_of_Scott_of_Scot/6OUwb8RK4B4C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=wydville+bodulgate&pg=PR55&printsec=frontcover
Richard Wydeville and Joan seem to have been married by September 1410 and possibly by 1408:
"Account of Richard Wydevile and Joan his wife of certain tenements in Calais. 10 and 11 Hen IV"
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4513011
Richard Wydeville and Joan seem to have been married by September 1410 and possibly by 1408:
"Account of Richard Wydevile and Joan his wife of certain tenements in Calais. 10 and 11 Hen IV"
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4513011
On 04-May-22 12:24 AM, Johnny Brananas wrote:
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Richard Wydeville and Joan seem to have been married by September 1410 and possibly by 1408:
"Account of Richard Wydevile and Joan his wife of certain tenements in Calais. 10 and 11 Hen IV"
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C4513011They were married before 27 June 1408 - they were grated £40 yearly on
that date, confirmed on 28 June 1413, see here (p. 53): https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015031079596&view=1up&seq=65&skin=2021
Peter Stewart
--Thanks for this, Peter.
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