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Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 16 (sub Rivers) includes an account of “Sir” John Wydeville, of Grafton, Northamptonshire (died soon after 8 September 1403), the great-grandfather of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, wife of Sir John Grey and King Edward IV
Regarding John Wydevill’s two marriages, the following information is given:Elizabeth [wife of Reginald (or Reynold) Ragon (or Ragoun)], Esq., of Backenho (in Thurleigh), Maulden, and Sudbury (in Eaton Socon), Bedfordshire, etc. By his 2nd wife, Isabel, John Wydeville was the father of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442), of
"He married, 1stly, Katherine, presumably daughter and heiress of Sir John Fremband of Biddenham, Bedfordshire. He married, 2ndly, before 1379, Isabel, widow of Robert Passelaw of Drayton Parslow." END OF QUOTE.
By his 1st wife, Katherine, John Wydeville was the father of three sons, Thomas, Esq. (died 1345), Richard (living 1367–68), and John (living 1367–68), and two daughters, Agnes (wife of _____ Helwell/Heldwell/Halywell/Halewell/Holwell) and
Complete Peerage indicates that John Wydeville was a knight. However, I've seen many records of this individual. In none of them is he styled a knight. Nor do either of the two local historians identifiy him as a knight.).
1. Bridges, History & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 299–301 (Wydvill ped.: “John Wydvill = [left blank]”).
2. Baker, History & Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836–41): 161–167 (Wideville/Wydeville ped.: “John de Wydeville, of Grafton, sheriff co. Northt. 4, 9, & 14 Ric. 2, M.P. for co. Northt. 6, 7, 11, & 14 Ric. 2, living 16 Ric. 2 (1392). = [left blank]
Although no records have been found which indicate John Wydeville's exact social status, he surely held the rank of esquire.287]. Checking the reference to the Patent Rolls cited by Complete Peerage, no mention is made on that page of John Wydeville being appointed a commissioner of array on that date. In fact, the only reference to anyone named Wydeville in that volume of
As far as John Wydeville's death date is concerned, Complete Peerage indicates that he “probably” died soon after 8 September 1403, when he was named commissioner of array for Northamptonshire [Reference: Calender of Patent Rolls, 1401-1403, pg.
Whatever the case, John Wydeville was definitely not living as late as 8 September 1403, as claimed by Complete Peerage. Roskell reports that John Wydeville was living as late as 18 Dec. 1399, and died before 1 Feb. 1401, when his son and heir, ThomasWydeville, obtained a writ of supersedeas to halt certain legal proceedings which had begun as a result of his absence from a royal commission of inquiry in Northamptonshire [Reference: Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 4 (1992): 913–915 (biog. of
Whatever the exact date of John Wydeville's death, he was certainly deceased before 18 July 1401, when "Isabel, widow of John Wodevyll, of Grafton," Northamptonshire, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Thomas Aff, [of] Twyford,Buckinghamshire. Reference: Justices Itinerant, JUST 1/1514, image 5151f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/JUST1/Just1no1514/aJUST1no1514fronts/IMG_5151.htm).
On 25-Apr-22 11:24 AM, Douglas Richardson wrote:of England.
Dear Newsgroup ~
Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 16 (sub Rivers) includes an account of “Sir” John Wydeville, of Grafton, Northamptonshire (died soon after 8 September 1403), the great-grandfather of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, wife of Sir John Grey and King Edward IV
Elizabeth [wife of Reginald (or Reynold) Ragon (or Ragoun)], Esq., of Backenho (in Thurleigh), Maulden, and Sudbury (in Eaton Socon), Bedfordshire, etc. By his 2nd wife, Isabel, John Wydeville was the father of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442), ofRegarding John Wydevill’s two marriages, the following information is given:
"He married, 1stly, Katherine, presumably daughter and heiress of Sir John Fremband of Biddenham, Bedfordshire. He married, 2ndly, before 1379, Isabel, widow of Robert Passelaw of Drayton Parslow." END OF QUOTE.
By his 1st wife, Katherine, John Wydeville was the father of three sons, Thomas, Esq. (died 1345), Richard (living 1367–68), and John (living 1367–68), and two daughters, Agnes (wife of _____ Helwell/Heldwell/Halywell/Halewell/Holwell) and
”).Complete Peerage indicates that John Wydeville was a knight. However, I've seen many records of this individual. In none of them is he styled a knight. Nor do either of the two local historians identifiy him as a knight.
1. Bridges, History & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 299–301 (Wydvill ped.: “John Wydvill = [left blank]”).
2. Baker, History & Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836–41): 161–167 (Wideville/Wydeville ped.: “John de Wydeville, of Grafton, sheriff co. Northt. 4, 9, & 14 Ric. 2, M.P. for co. Northt. 6, 7, 11, & 14 Ric. 2, living 16 Ric. 2 (1392). = [left blank]
287]. Checking the reference to the Patent Rolls cited by Complete Peerage, no mention is made on that page of John Wydeville being appointed a commissioner of array on that date. In fact, the only reference to anyone named Wydeville in that volume ofAlthough no records have been found which indicate John Wydeville's exact social status, he surely held the rank of esquire.
As far as John Wydeville's death date is concerned, Complete Peerage indicates that he “probably” died soon after 8 September 1403, when he was named commissioner of array for Northamptonshire [Reference: Calender of Patent Rolls, 1401-1403, pg.
Thomas Wydeville, obtained a writ of supersedeas to halt certain legal proceedings which had begun as a result of his absence from a royal commission of inquiry in Northamptonshire [Reference: Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 4 (1992): 913–915 (Whatever the case, John Wydeville was definitely not living as late as 8 September 1403, as claimed by Complete Peerage. Roskell reports that John Wydeville was living as late as 18 Dec. 1399, and died before 1 Feb. 1401, when his son and heir,
Buckinghamshire. Reference: Justices Itinerant, JUST 1/1514, image 5151f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/JUST1/Just1no1514/aJUST1no1514fronts/IMG_5151.htm).Whatever the exact date of John Wydeville's death, he was certainly deceased before 18 July 1401, when "Isabel, widow of John Wodevyll, of Grafton," Northamptonshire, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Thomas Aff, [of] Twyford,
John Wydeville was dead before 29 August 1398 - see no. 1312,Thanks for this, Peter. Glad to have you back.
inquisition taken Thursday after St Bartholomew (24 August), 22 Richard
II: "The lands in Stokebruer, Shetilhangre and Alderton are held of the heirs of John Wodevyll for 19s. yearly", here: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol17/pp495-508.
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Dear Newsgroup ~of England.
Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 16 (sub Rivers) includes an account of “Sir” John Wydeville, of Grafton, Northamptonshire (died soon after 8 September 1403), the great-grandfather of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, wife of Sir John Grey and King Edward IV
Regarding John Wydevill’s two marriages, the following information is given:Elizabeth [wife of Reginald (or Reynold) Ragon (or Ragoun)], Esq., of Backenho (in Thurleigh), Maulden, and Sudbury (in Eaton Socon), Bedfordshire, etc. By his 2nd wife, Isabel, John Wydeville was the father of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442), of
"He married, 1stly, Katherine, presumably daughter and heiress of Sir John Fremband of Biddenham, Bedfordshire. He married, 2ndly, before 1379, Isabel, widow of Robert Passelaw of Drayton Parslow." END OF QUOTE.
By his 1st wife, Katherine, John Wydeville was the father of three sons, Thomas, Esq. (died 1345), Richard (living 1367–68), and John (living 1367–68), and two daughters, Agnes (wife of _____ Helwell/Heldwell/Halywell/Halewell/Holwell) and
Complete Peerage indicates that John Wydeville was a knight. However, I've seen many records of this individual. In none of them is he styled a knight. Nor do either of the two local historians identifiy him as a knight.).
1. Bridges, History & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 299–301 (Wydvill ped.: “John Wydvill = [left blank]”).
2. Baker, History & Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836–41): 161–167 (Wideville/Wydeville ped.: “John de Wydeville, of Grafton, sheriff co. Northt. 4, 9, & 14 Ric. 2, M.P. for co. Northt. 6, 7, 11, & 14 Ric. 2, living 16 Ric. 2 (1392). = [left blank]
Although no records have been found which indicate John Wydeville's exact social status, he surely held the rank of esquire.287]. Checking the reference to the Patent Rolls cited by Complete Peerage, no mention is made on that page of John Wydeville being appointed a commissioner of array on that date. In fact, the only reference to anyone named Wydeville in that volume of
As far as John Wydeville's death date is concerned, Complete Peerage indicates that he “probably” died soon after 8 September 1403, when he was named commissioner of array for Northamptonshire [Reference: Calender of Patent Rolls, 1401-1403, pg.
Whatever the case, John Wydeville was definitely not living as late as 8 September 1403, as claimed by Complete Peerage. Roskell reports that John Wydeville was living as late as 18 Dec. 1399, and died before 1 Feb. 1401, when his son and heir, ThomasWydeville, obtained a writ of supersedeas to halt certain legal proceedings which had begun as a result of his absence from a royal commission of inquiry in Northamptonshire [Reference: Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 4 (1992): 913–915 (biog. of
Whatever the exact date of John Wydeville's death, he was certainly deceased before 18 July 1401, when "Isabel, widow of John Wodevyll, of Grafton," Northamptonshire, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Thomas Aff, [of] Twyford,Buckinghamshire. Reference: Justices Itinerant, JUST 1/1514, image 5151f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/JUST1/Just1no1514/aJUST1no1514fronts/IMG_5151.htm).
The remainder of this post will concern the identity, parentage, and history of John Wydeville's 2nd wife, Isabel. As we see above, Complete Peerage does not identify the maiden name or parentage of Isabel. Rather she is merely identified as the widowof Robert Passelaw, of Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire. This identification is based on Victoria County History of Buckingham, 3 (1925): 346 (sub Drayton Parslow), which reads as follows:
".... His kinsman and heir Nicholas [Passelewe] held the manor [of Drayton Parslow] until his death in 1349, when he was succeeded by his son Robert, then aged fifteen. It seems probable that Robert Passelewe died before 1379, leaving a widow Isabel,by that date the wife of John Widevill, and a daughter and heir Elizabeth, who married William Purcell, for the Purcells settled the manor on themselves and the heirs of Elizabeth in 1379, paying a life rent to Isabel of £18 15s. 10d. and forty fowls."
VCH Buckingham states that Robert Passelewe, born c.1334, living in 1349, is alleged to have died before 1379, leaving a widow Isabel and a daughter and heir, Elizabeth (wife of William Purcell). This statement is based on a feet of fines, an abstractof which is copied below:
CP 25/1/21/103, number 16.chief lords for ever [sic], rendering yearly to John and Isabel, for the life of Isabel, 18 pounds, 15 shillings and 10 pence of silver, to wit, a moiety at St Michael and the other moiety at Easter, and also rendering to John and Isabel, for the life of
County: Buckinghamshire. Place: Westminster.
Date: Two weeks from Easter, 3 Richard [II] [8 April 1380].
Parties: William Purcell' and Elizabeth, his wife, querents, and John Wydeuill' and Isabel, his wife, deforciants.
Property: The manor of Drayton' Passelewe.
Action: Plea of covenant.
Agreement: John and Isabel have granted to William and Elizabeth the manor and have rendered whatsoever they had in it for the life of Isabel to William and Elizabeth in the court, to hold to William and Elizabeth and the heirs of Elizabeth, of the
Reference: National Archives, CP 25/1/21/103, #16 [see abstract of fine at http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html].above is that Isabel, then wife of John Wydeville, had an unidentified life estate in the manor of Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire, but she is no where called the widow of Richard Passelewe. And Elizabeth Purcell is no where called Richard Passelewe's
As we can see, Richard Passelewe is no where stated in this fine to have left a widow, Isabel, or or a daughter and heiress, Elizabeth (wife of William Purcell). Moreover, the fine is dated 1380, not 1379. The only pertinent fact we glean from the fine
Given, however, that Isabel Wydeville held a life estate in the manor, the presumption is that she held her interest in right of dower from a former marriage. Question remains: Who was her former husband?for Bedfordshire, 1355, Justice of the Peace for Buckinghamshire, 1361–69, Knight of the Shire for Buckinghamshire, 1362, 1366, 1368, 1372, Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire, 1374. The evidence for Isabel's first marriage to John de Arderne
As it turns out, Isabel was not the widow of Richard Passelewe at all, but rather contemporary evidence proves that she was actually the widow of John de Arderne, who died testate shortly before 1 October 1375, which John served as Justice of the Peace
1. In Easter term 1376 Thomas Frembaud sued John Bygon, Isabel, widow of John de Ardern, Walter Craunford, and John Hynton, parson of the church of Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire, executors of the will of John de Ardern, in the Court of Common Pleasregarding a debt of £40.
Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/462, image 1200d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/E3/CP40no462/bCP40no462dorses/IMG_1200.htm).will of William de Arderne, late parson of the church of Chesterton, Oxfordshire, and John Wydevyle and Isabel his wife, co-executrix with the said Walter, John, and John of the will of the said John Arderne, regarding a debt of £20.
2. In Trinity term 1377 Master John Evot, clerk, and John Carbonell, Citizen and goldsmith of London, sued Walter Craunford, John, parson of the church of Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire, and John Worcester, executors of John Arderne, executor of the
Reference: Common Pleas, CP40/466, image 230f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/E3/CP40no466/aCP40no466fronts/IMG_0230.htm).Ardern, late executor of William de Ardern, late canon of the church of the Blessed Mary of Lincoln and prebendary of Weton Bekhall [Welton Beckhall], and John Wodeville and Isabel his wife, co-executrix with the said Walter and William of the will of
3. In Trinity term 1377 Master Thomas de Kirketon and others, executors of John Haddon, late canon of the church of the Blessed Mary of Lincoln, sued Walter de Craneford and Gilbert, parson of the church of Drayton, executors of the will of John de
Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/466, image 754d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/E3/CP40no466/bCP40no466dorses/IMG_0754.htm).Thompson, Coat of Arms, N.S., vol. ix, 1992, pp. 179, 184.” END OF QUOTE
As to the maiden name of Isabel, wife of John Wydeville, Complete Peerage 14 (1998): 549 identifies her as “Isabel Godard (probably of Swanborne, co. Bucks),“ which it states “has been identified on heraldic evidence, see Charles Hansen and Neil
The statement that Isabel was a Godard was made even through as early as 1864, it was noticed that the Wydeville family included the arms of Gobion, not Godard, in their quarterings:argent, three gudgeons, haurient, within a bordure, engrailed, sable], Bedelesgate [or, on a bend, sable, three mullets, argent], and Beauchamp of Hache [vair, argent and azure]).
Draper House of Stanley (1864): 333–334, for example, states that a Stanley family achievement emblazoned by Sir Gilbert Dethick, Garter King-of Arms [temp. Elizabeth] includes quarterings for Wydville [argent, a fesse and canton, gules], Gobion [
In a similar vein, Trans. of the Historical Society of Lancashire & Cheshire 62 (1911): 58–66, includes a painting of the quarterings of Hesketh family, which include the arms of Woodville, Scales, Gobion, Bedelsgate, and Beauchamp.a Godard. In the 1999 article, the author concludes that Isabel was actually a Gobion. Here is a brief extract of that article:
So was Isabel a Godard or a Gobion? Fortunately Coat of Arms n.s. 13 (1999): 28–33 corrects the earlier claim made in Coat of Arms, N.S. 9 (1992): 184 footnote 2, in which Hansen and Thompson concluded in error that Isabel, wife of John Wydevill, was
“Writhe’s Garter Book, ca. 1488, a manuscript in the British Library portrays an armorial pedigree for Elizabeth Wydevill, Queen of Edward IV, with blazons written on each shield. The ancestry … of her father shows the surnames and arms of hisparents and grandparents. From the surnames shown in Writhe’s Garter Book, it can be seen that [Richard Wydevill] Lord Rivers father’s mother was a Gobion, with her arms blanzoned as Argent, 3 lucies hauriant within a bordure engrailed sable. [This]
So Isabel is firmly established as a Gobion, and evidently an heiress based on evidence published in 1864 and 1911.It appears that the Gobion and Wydeville families lived in close proximity to one another, as Yardley Gobion lies immediately adjacent on the south to Grafton, Northamptonshire, the chief manor of the Wydeville family. In 1338, for example, I find that
As to possible candidates for Isabel's parentage, I believe she is most likely the daughter and co-heiress of Henry Gobion (or Gobioun, Gubioun, Gubion) the elder (died c.1349), of Yardley Gobion (in Potterspury), Northamptonshire, by his wife, Denise.
Before leaving the matter of the parentage of Isabel (Gobion) (de Arderne) Wydeville, I should note that in 1372–79 a certain Thomas Cok and Isabel his wife, daughter and heiress of Thomas Gobioun, and two others granted one messuage, lands, and rentin Wootton Bourne, Bedfordshire to Robert Lary, chaplain, and other trustees [see Fowler, Records of Harrold Priory (Bedfordshire Hist. Rec. Soc. 17) (1935): 159, 217]. Assuming this charter has been correctly dated, Isabel Gobion, wife of Thomas Cok,
Reviewing the above information, I find that Isabel Gobion (living 1401) married (1st) John de Arderne (died c. 1375) and (2nd) John Wydeville (living 1399, dead by 1401). I believe Isabel is likely one of the daughters and co-heirs of Henry Gobion (died c.1349), of Yardley Gobion (in Potterspury), Northamptonshire, by his wife, Denise.
For interest’s sake, I’ve copied below my current file account of John Wydeville and his wife, Isabel Gobion.1, 1385–6, 1390–1, Knight of the Shire for Northamptonshire, 1382, 1383, 1388, 1390, Escheator of Northamptonshire and Rutland, 1382–3, Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire, 1383–4, and, in right of his 1st wife, of Biddenham and Holcot,
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JOHN WYDEVILLE (or WYDEVILL, WYDEVYLL, WIDEVYLL, WODEVYLE, WODEVYLL, WODEVILLE), of Grafton, Stoke Bruerne, and Wick Hamon (in Wicken), Northamptonshire, etc., Escheator of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire, 1379–80, Sheriff of Northamptonshire, 1380
References:Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836–41): 160–167 (Wideville/Wydeville ped.: “John de Wydeville, of Grafton, sheriff co. Northt. 4, 9, & 14 Ric. 2, M.P. for co. Northt. 6, 7, 11, & 14 Ric. 2, living 16 Ric. 2 (1392). = [left blank]”). Hartshorne,
Collins, Peerage of England 1 (1714): 304–307 (sub Earls Rivers, Widville). Willis, Notitia Parliamentaria (1730): 86. Bridges, Hist. & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 299–301 (Wydvill ped.: “John Wydvill = [left blank]”). Baker, Hist. &
On 25-Apr-22 11:24 AM, Douglas Richardson wrote:of England.
Dear Newsgroup ~
Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 16 (sub Rivers) includes an account of “Sir” John Wydeville, of Grafton, Northamptonshire (died soon after 8 September 1403), the great-grandfather of Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, wife of Sir John Grey and King Edward IV
Elizabeth [wife of Reginald (or Reynold) Ragon (or Ragoun)], Esq., of Backenho (in Thurleigh), Maulden, and Sudbury (in Eaton Socon), Bedfordshire, etc. By his 2nd wife, Isabel, John Wydeville was the father of Richard Wydeville, Esq. (died 1442), ofRegarding John Wydevill’s two marriages, the following information is given:
"He married, 1stly, Katherine, presumably daughter and heiress of Sir John Fremband of Biddenham, Bedfordshire. He married, 2ndly, before 1379, Isabel, widow of Robert Passelaw of Drayton Parslow." END OF QUOTE.
By his 1st wife, Katherine, John Wydeville was the father of three sons, Thomas, Esq. (died 1345), Richard (living 1367–68), and John (living 1367–68), and two daughters, Agnes (wife of _____ Helwell/Heldwell/Halywell/Halewell/Holwell) and
”).Complete Peerage indicates that John Wydeville was a knight. However, I've seen many records of this individual. In none of them is he styled a knight. Nor do either of the two local historians identifiy him as a knight.
1. Bridges, History & Antiqs. of Northamptonshire 1 (1791): 299–301 (Wydvill ped.: “John Wydvill = [left blank]”).
2. Baker, History & Antiqs. of Northampton 2 (1836–41): 161–167 (Wideville/Wydeville ped.: “John de Wydeville, of Grafton, sheriff co. Northt. 4, 9, & 14 Ric. 2, M.P. for co. Northt. 6, 7, 11, & 14 Ric. 2, living 16 Ric. 2 (1392). = [left blank]
287]. Checking the reference to the Patent Rolls cited by Complete Peerage, no mention is made on that page of John Wydeville being appointed a commissioner of array on that date. In fact, the only reference to anyone named Wydeville in that volume ofAlthough no records have been found which indicate John Wydeville's exact social status, he surely held the rank of esquire.
As far as John Wydeville's death date is concerned, Complete Peerage indicates that he “probably” died soon after 8 September 1403, when he was named commissioner of array for Northamptonshire [Reference: Calender of Patent Rolls, 1401-1403, pg.
Thomas Wydeville, obtained a writ of supersedeas to halt certain legal proceedings which had begun as a result of his absence from a royal commission of inquiry in Northamptonshire [Reference: Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 4 (1992): 913–915 (Whatever the case, John Wydeville was definitely not living as late as 8 September 1403, as claimed by Complete Peerage. Roskell reports that John Wydeville was living as late as 18 Dec. 1399, and died before 1 Feb. 1401, when his son and heir,
Buckinghamshire. Reference: Justices Itinerant, JUST 1/1514, image 5151f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/JUST1/Just1no1514/aJUST1no1514fronts/IMG_5151.htm).Whatever the exact date of John Wydeville's death, he was certainly deceased before 18 July 1401, when "Isabel, widow of John Wodevyll, of Grafton," Northamptonshire, arraigned an assize of novel disseisin against Thomas Aff, [of] Twyford,
John Wydeville was dead before 29 August 1398 - see no. 1312,
inquisition taken Thursday after St Bartholomew (24 August), 22 Richard
II: "The lands in Stokebruer, Shetilhangre and Alderton are held of the heirs of John Wodevyll for 19s. yearly", here: https://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol17/pp495-508.
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Dear Newsgroup ~Peace for Buckinghamshire, 1361–69, Knight of the Shire for Buckinghamshire, 1362, 1366, 1368, 1372, Sheriff of Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire, 1374,Robert Passelewe, Knt., of Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire (born c.1334, died before 1377) ..."
I have a few additional comments to make regarding my post yesterday on John Wydeville and his 2nd wife, Isabel Gobion.
With regard to whether or not John Wydeville was ever knighted, Roskell makes the following comment in his biograpy of him:
"Although described as a knight by the CP (loc. cit.), John Wydeville is not thus designated in any contemporary sources." END OF QUOTE.
Reference: Roskell, House of Commons 1386–1421 4 (1992): 913–915 (biog. of John Wydeville).
I concur with Roskell's findings.
In my file account of John Wydeville at the end of my post, I noticed an extraneous bit of information which should have been removed before I ppsted this material. My file account reads as follows:
" He married (2nd) after Easter 1376 (date of lawsuit) and before Trinity term 1377 (date of lawsuits) ISABEL GOBION, widow of John de Arderne (died testate shortly before 1 October 1375), Justice of the Peace for Bedfordshire, 1355, Justice of the
The words "Robert Passelewe, Knt., of Drayton Parslow, Buckinghamshire (born c.1334, died before 1377)" should be deleted.Oxfordshire," in one lawsuit, and "late canon of the church of the Blessed Mary of Lincoln and prebendary of Weton Bekhall [Welton Beckhall]" in another lawsuit. Both lawsuits are cited in my earlier post.
With regard to Isabel Gobion's first husband, John de Arderne, he was surely the brother of Master William de Arderne, clerk (died 1375), for whose will he served as executor. William de Arderne is styled "late parson of the church of Chesterton,
Fowler, Register of Simonis de Sudbiria 2 (Canterbury & York Soc. 38) (1938): 3 lists acolytes, beneficed sub A.D. 1362: “William Arderne; Chestreton (diocese not given.”).three cross-crosslets fitchée, on a chief a lion passant, on the border: ‘S. Nicholai de Ardena.’”
VCH Oxford 6 (1969): 92–103 (sub Chesterton: “Another distinguished medieval rector was Master William de Ardern (1361–75), a pluralist and Fellow of Merton College.”).
Brodrick, Memorials of Merton College (1885): 200 states “William Arden or Arderne (1350). He is mentioned in 1358, and was Fellow in 1375.”.
I note that William de Ardern, M.A., rector of Chesterton, is styled “kinsman” of John de Streatley, D.C.L., chancellor of the duchy of Aquitaine in 1363. Reference: Papal Registers.: Petitions 1 (1896): 423, 424, & 463.
Genealogical Magazine 2 (1899): 32 mentions a seal used by William D’Arderne, clerk, of Offord, Warwickshire, which is preserved in the British Museum, appended to a deed in which he and John D’Arderne were concerned 1366. It has a shield of arms,
I presume William d'Arderne, of Offord, Warwickshire, is the same person as William de Arderne, rector of Chesterton, Oxfordshire, as VCH Oxford says William de Arderne, rector of Chesterton, was a pluralist.Thanks for this, Douglas.
I haven't traced the kinship between the Arderne family and John de Streatley, Chancellor of the Duchy of Aquitaine, but I presume it was close in nature.
Douglas Richardson, Historian and Genealogist
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