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  • Re: Capt. Bartholomew Tipping of Taunton from an armigerous family?

    From Johnny Brananas@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 30 13:52:09 2022
    Mark noted the following:

    "There's also a double connection with the Dannett family:

    1. Gerard Dannett of Dannett's Hall married Mary Belknap
    2a. Mary Dannett married George Medley
    3. Henry Medley married Frances Throckmorton
    4. Katherine Medley married Robert Bourne
    5. Mary Bourne married William Chapman
    6. Susan Chapman married Doyley Tipping

    2b. Elizabeth Dannett married Sir John Arundell
    3. Katherine Arundell married John Tregian
    4. Katherine Tregian married Robert Doyley
    5. Martha Doyley married Bartholomew Tipping
    6. Doyley Tipping married Susan Chapman - 4th cousins"

    _________

    There is a pertinent marriage licence printed in D. S. Chambers, _Faculty Office Registers, 1534-1549_ (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1966), p. 5.

    [1534, June 28] Geo. Medley & Mary Damet [sic]. Disp. for marriage (2nd & 3rd degrees consang., and the Countess of Dorset, Geo.'s mother, was Mary's godmother). L8; 30s.

    Was this "Countess" of Dorset, Margaret Wotton, daughter of Sir Robert Wotton (by Anne Belknap), who married Thomas Grey, Marquess of Dorset? If so, it looks like the consanguinity issue related to the Belknapp family.

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  • From Chris Dickinson@21:1/5 to ravinma...@yahoo.com on Wed Apr 13 08:24:54 2022
    On Friday, 29 January 2021 at 22:27:53 UTC, ravinma...@yahoo.com wrote:


    Notice that B. Tipping was called "Mr" in the 1711 record. Also, he appears to be the same one who witnessed the 1682/3 estate inventory of the Rev. Samuel Dudley, a son of Governor Thomas Dudley of Massachusetts:

    You probably can't infer anything useful from the use of the term 'Mr' in 1711. By that time, the term was being used for anyone who had status, especially in towns. It doesn't imply anything at all about the social status of the man's father or
    grandfather or other relatives.

    The term 'Esq.' remains a useful social pointer at this time, losing that value in the nineteenth century.

    Chris

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