Based on Patricia L. Hatcher's article "Identifyng Judith Hone, wife of John Armistead of Virginia ..." in the 2012 _American Ancestors Journal_, Gary Roberts includes a somewhat speculative royal line through Browne of Tolethorpe, co. Rutland, forthese Virginia families. The line goes, in part, ...
Grace Pinchbeck = Christopher Browne of TolethorpeHone and Joan Browne, as mentioned by Hatcher. The 1681 Visitation of Rutland supplies the earlier generations of Browne:
Francis Browne = Margaret Mathew
Joan Browne = William Hone
Thomas Hone = Jane Allen, etc.
This is based on the Visitation of Essex account of the Hone family, which states the connection to Browne of Tolethorpe, as well as the will of William Hone, in which is named his "brother" Anthony Browne. There is also a marriage record for William
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015001517492&view=1up&seq=41&skin=2021&q1=%22anthony%20browne%22the elder [concerning lands, goods, and money promised to Beatrice upon her first marriage].
An article in Notes & Queries from 1887 quotes the 1540/1 will of Francis Browne, father of Joan (Browne) Hone.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Notes_and_Queries/t7URAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22francis+browne%22+beatrix&pg=PA464&printsec=frontcover
This article mentions Francis' first wife Margaret Mathew, as well as a second wife, "Beatrys my Dame," named in the will. Beatrice was living as late as 36 Henry VII.
_Early Chancery Proceedings_, vol. III (? 1963), in the "Lists & Indexes" series reveals the probable birth identity of Beatrice:
[File 947, no. 51]
Francis BROWNE, esquire, and Beatrice, his wife, daughter of George Makworthe and late the wife of John, son of John Rowley, citizen and ironmonger of London v. Edward DUDLEY, and Jane his wife, executrix and late the wife of the said John [Rowley],
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lists_and_Indexes/sewMAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22edward+dudley%22+%22john+rowley%22&pg=PA18&printsec=frontcover1539. Supposing Joan was married early (at say age 15), there is a slight chance she might be by Beatrice, not by Margaret. The chronology of the Rowleys of Rotherhithe should be checked.
Mackworth is another gentry family in co. Rutland.
It seems likely that the Joan Browne married Hone was a child of the first wife (Margaret Matthew), but there may have been children of Francis Browne by Beatrice (Mackworth) Rowley, as the N & Q article mentions that the son William may have been born
Hatcher mentions that William Hone was seized at death (1575) of an inn and four adjoining shops in St. Botolphs without Aldergate. She also gives his father as John Hone, citizen of London (based on the Essex Vis. pedigree).
An Inquisition post Mortem taken in August 1538 for a John Hone, tallowchandler of London, mentions a messuage or tenement and four shops adjoining in "the parish of St. Botolph without Aldrichegate."
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Abstracts_of_Inquisitiones_Post_Mortem_R/amtKAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22william+hone%22+brown&pg=PA51&printsec=frontcover
This very likely gives more information on the father of William Hone (who married Joan Browne), including that his father John Hone left a will and had a widow Cecilia, who remarried before the date of the Inquisition to one John Baynton.
On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 12:10:24 PM UTC-4, Johnny Brananas wrote:these Virginia families. The line goes, in part, ...
Based on Patricia L. Hatcher's article "Identifyng Judith Hone, wife of John Armistead of Virginia ..." in the 2012 _American Ancestors Journal_, Gary Roberts includes a somewhat speculative royal line through Browne of Tolethorpe, co. Rutland, for
Hone and Joan Browne, as mentioned by Hatcher. The 1681 Visitation of Rutland supplies the earlier generations of Browne:Grace Pinchbeck = Christopher Browne of Tolethorpe
Francis Browne = Margaret Mathew
Joan Browne = William Hone
Thomas Hone = Jane Allen, etc.
This is based on the Visitation of Essex account of the Hone family, which states the connection to Browne of Tolethorpe, as well as the will of William Hone, in which is named his "brother" Anthony Browne. There is also a marriage record for William
the elder [concerning lands, goods, and money promised to Beatrice upon her first marriage].https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015001517492&view=1up&seq=41&skin=2021&q1=%22anthony%20browne%22
An article in Notes & Queries from 1887 quotes the 1540/1 will of Francis Browne, father of Joan (Browne) Hone.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Notes_and_Queries/t7URAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22francis+browne%22+beatrix&pg=PA464&printsec=frontcover
This article mentions Francis' first wife Margaret Mathew, as well as a second wife, "Beatrys my Dame," named in the will. Beatrice was living as late as 36 Henry VII.
_Early Chancery Proceedings_, vol. III (? 1963), in the "Lists & Indexes" series reveals the probable birth identity of Beatrice:
[File 947, no. 51]
Francis BROWNE, esquire, and Beatrice, his wife, daughter of George Makworthe and late the wife of John, son of John Rowley, citizen and ironmonger of London v. Edward DUDLEY, and Jane his wife, executrix and late the wife of the said John [Rowley],
born 1539. Supposing Joan was married early (at say age 15), there is a slight chance she might be by Beatrice, not by Margaret. The chronology of the Rowleys of Rotherhithe should be checked.https://www.google.com/books/edition/Lists_and_Indexes/sewMAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22edward+dudley%22+%22john+rowley%22&pg=PA18&printsec=frontcover
Mackworth is another gentry family in co. Rutland.
It seems likely that the Joan Browne married Hone was a child of the first wife (Margaret Matthew), but there may have been children of Francis Browne by Beatrice (Mackworth) Rowley, as the N & Q article mentions that the son William may have been
Hatcher mentions that William Hone was seized at death (1575) of an inn and four adjoining shops in St. Botolphs without Aldergate. She also gives his father as John Hone, citizen of London (based on the Essex Vis. pedigree).
An Inquisition post Mortem taken in August 1538 for a John Hone, tallowchandler of London, mentions a messuage or tenement and four shops adjoining in "the parish of St. Botolph without Aldrichegate."
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Abstracts_of_Inquisitiones_Post_Mortem_R/amtKAAAAYAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22william+hone%22+brown&pg=PA51&printsec=frontcover
This very likely gives more information on the father of William Hone (who married Joan Browne), including that his father John Hone left a will and had a widow Cecilia, who remarried before the date of the Inquisition to one John Baynton.... Beatrice living as late as 36 HENRY VIII, not VII.
I didn't notice a year on yours
But this item gives a year-range for this document
Short title: Browne v Rowley. Plaintiffs: Francis Browne, esquire, and Beatrice, his...
Reference: C 1/605/41
Description:
Short title: Browne v Rowley.
Plaintiffs: Francis Browne, esquire, and Beatrice, his wife, late the wife of John Rowley the younger.
Defendants: John Rowley the elder, citizen and ironmonger of London. Subject: Money and goods promised by defendant on his son's marriage to the said Beatrice, daughter and heir ofGeorge Makworth of Empingham, esquire.
London, Rutland.
4 documents
Date: 1529-1532
Held by: The National Archives, Kew
By the way, even though this document says that Beatrice is "daughter and HEIR" I don't think that could be the case. This George must apparently be that one who m Anne Sherard, and were the parents of Francis Mackworth who would clearly be their heir.Not beatrice.
On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:53:16 PM UTC-7, Will Johnson wrote:heir. Not beatrice.
By the way, even though this document says that Beatrice is "daughter and HEIR" I don't think that could be the case. This George must apparently be that one who m Anne Sherard, and were the parents of Francis Mackworth who would clearly be their
I *WONDER* if there is some tiny tiny slight possibility that Francis Mackworth, the son was not yet born at the time that this marriage of Beatrice (the first marriage) was contracted and *so* at that time, her father being living, she might be calledheir presumptive* and not actually the eventual heir....
Just tossing a page into the wind here.
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