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  • Looking for a source online - William Henry Cooke, Continuation of Dunc

    From Darrell E. Larocque@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 2 19:09:12 2022
    Good day everyone,

    I am looking for a specific reference that I can't find online unfortunately.

    Can anyone help? Thank you!

    SOURCE:

    William Henry Cooke. Collections Towards the History and Antiquities of the County of Hereford in continuation of Duncumb’s History. Hundred of Grimsworth. (London: John Murray, Albemarle Street. 1892).

    Darrell E. Larocque

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to Darrell E. Larocque on Tue Jan 4 10:49:54 2022
    On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 7:09:13 PM UTC-8, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:
    Good day everyone,

    I am looking for a specific reference that I can't find online unfortunately.

    Can anyone help? Thank you!

    SOURCE:

    William Henry Cooke. Collections Towards the History and Antiquities of the County of Hereford in continuation of Duncumb’s History. Hundred of Grimsworth. (London: John Murray, Albemarle Street. 1892).

    Darrell E. Larocque

    Which volume?

    Here for example is Volume 3

    https://books.google.com/books/about/Collections_Towards_the_History_and_Anti.html?id=0zxAAAAAYAAJ

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  • From Will Johnson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 4 10:52:32 2022
  • From taf@21:1/5 to Darrell E. Larocque on Tue Jan 4 11:11:38 2022
    On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 7:09:13 PM UTC-8, Darrell E. Larocque wrote:
    Good day everyone,

    I am looking for a specific reference that I can't find online unfortunately.

    Can anyone help? Thank you!

    SOURCE:

    William Henry Cooke. Collections Towards the History and Antiquities of the County of Hereford in continuation of Duncumb’s History. Hundred of Grimsworth. (London: John Murray, Albemarle Street. 1892).


    It looks to be this:

    https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/002574769?type%5B%5D=author&lookfor%5B%5D=cooke&bool%5B%5D=AND&type%5B%5D=title&lookfor%5B%5D=Antiquities%20of%20the%20County%20of%20Hereford&ft=

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  • From taf@21:1/5 to jhigg...@yahoo.com on Tue Jan 4 15:58:57 2022
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 3:21:53 PM UTC-8, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 10:52:34 AM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    For the 1892 book you can try WorldCat here is the entry

    https://www.worldcat.org/title/collections-towards-the-history-and-antiquities-of-the-county-of-hereford-in-continuation-of-duncumbs-history-vol-4-hundred-of-grimsworth/oclc/931248121?referer=di&ht=edition
    This is the second part of volume 4. Together with its companion part 1 (published in 1886), they cover Grimsworth hundred and were written by William Henry Cooke. I've never been able to locate an online copy of these two volumes.

    The 1892 volume is on Family Search, where it is film 908357, beginning at image 190. When I called up the cat entry it showed access as restricted (by the little key icon) but I clicked on it anyhow and was able to view it.
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZZ-FQWT-C?i=189&cat=202072

    taf

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to wjhons...@gmail.com on Tue Jan 4 15:21:52 2022
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 10:52:34 AM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    For the 1892 book you can try WorldCat here is the entry

    https://www.worldcat.org/title/collections-towards-the-history-and-antiquities-of-the-county-of-hereford-in-continuation-of-duncumbs-history-vol-4-hundred-of-grimsworth/oclc/931248121?referer=di&ht=edition

    This is the second part of volume 4. Together with its companion part 1 (published in 1886), they cover Grimsworth hundred and were written by William Henry Cooke. I've never been able to locate an online copy of these two volumes.

    The Hathitrust catalog seems to have been confused by the rather sporadic history in which this series was published, spanning over a century and with several authors involved. For more details, see the Herefordshire chapter in the 1994 work "A Guide to
    English County Histories" (C. R. J. Currie and C. P. Lewis, editors).

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  • From Darrell E. Larocque@21:1/5 to taf on Tue Jan 4 19:35:14 2022
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 6:58:58 PM UTC-5, taf wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 3:21:53 PM UTC-8, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 10:52:34 AM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    For the 1892 book you can try WorldCat here is the entry

    https://www.worldcat.org/title/collections-towards-the-history-and-antiquities-of-the-county-of-hereford-in-continuation-of-duncumbs-history-vol-4-hundred-of-grimsworth/oclc/931248121?referer=di&ht=edition
    This is the second part of volume 4. Together with its companion part 1 (published in 1886), they cover Grimsworth hundred and were written by William Henry Cooke. I've never been able to locate an online copy of these two volumes.
    The 1892 volume is on Family Search, where it is film 908357, beginning at image 190. When I called up the cat entry it showed access as restricted (by the little key icon) but I clicked on it anyhow and was able to view it.
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZZ-FQWT-C?i=189&cat=202072

    taf

    Hero status my friend... thank you!!! It is the genuine article and I can't save the images fast enough!

    Darrell

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to taf on Wed Jan 5 14:40:40 2022
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 3:58:58 PM UTC-8, taf wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 3:21:53 PM UTC-8, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, January 4, 2022 at 10:52:34 AM UTC-8, wjhons...@gmail.com wrote:
    For the 1892 book you can try WorldCat here is the entry

    https://www.worldcat.org/title/collections-towards-the-history-and-antiquities-of-the-county-of-hereford-in-continuation-of-duncumbs-history-vol-4-hundred-of-grimsworth/oclc/931248121?referer=di&ht=edition
    This is the second part of volume 4. Together with its companion part 1 (published in 1886), they cover Grimsworth hundred and were written by William Henry Cooke. I've never been able to locate an online copy of these two volumes.
    The 1892 volume is on Family Search, where it is film 908357, beginning at image 190. When I called up the cat entry it showed access as restricted (by the little key icon) but I clicked on it anyhow and was able to view it.
    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSZZ-FQWT-C?i=189&cat=202072

    taf
    Todd, I can see how you found 908357 as the film number for the Duncumb work as it appears in the catalog entry for the publication (although now without the key icon over the camera - so it's unlocked now) https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/
    202072?availability=Family%20History%20Library

    But how did you determine that the volume in question started on page 190? Did you just scroll through the film images until you found the right page, or is there some more elegant way to get there? Just curious...

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  • From taf@21:1/5 to jhigg...@yahoo.com on Wed Jan 5 15:19:19 2022
    On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 2:40:42 PM UTC-8, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:

    But how did you determine that the volume in question started on page 190? Did you just scroll
    through the film images until you found the right page, or is there some more elegant way to get
    there? Just curious...

    From memory, I clicked on the camara icon and it gave me the 'tile' view that shows you mini-images of dozens of pages at once. I zoomed out so I could see more tiles at once and get a better feel for what I was dealing with. Knowing from the catalog
    that the film began with part of volume 2, then had volume 3, 4, etc., I looked over the tiles for the transitions between volumes, which often include white pages with a large bold 'Begin' or 'End'. Counting forward through the transitions, I selected
    the one that I guessed would represent the transition from volume 3 to volume 4, and as I zoomed back in to better see the format of the surrounding pages, it became clear the tile before the 'Begin' panel had the format of a title page. Double clicking
    on that image revealed that this was, in fact, the beginning of volume 4. (Had it not been, I would have returned to the tile view and gone to a previous or subsequent transition, as needed).

    taf

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  • From John Higgins@21:1/5 to taf on Wed Jan 5 17:28:17 2022
    On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 3:19:20 PM UTC-8, taf wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 5, 2022 at 2:40:42 PM UTC-8, jhigg...@yahoo.com wrote:

    But how did you determine that the volume in question started on page 190? Did you just scroll
    through the film images until you found the right page, or is there some more elegant way to get
    there? Just curious...
    From memory, I clicked on the camara icon and it gave me the 'tile' view that shows you mini-images of dozens of pages at once. I zoomed out so I could see more tiles at once and get a better feel for what I was dealing with. Knowing from the catalog
    that the film began with part of volume 2, then had volume 3, 4, etc., I looked over the tiles for the transitions between volumes, which often include white pages with a large bold 'Begin' or 'End'. Counting forward through the transitions, I selected
    the one that I guessed would represent the transition from volume 3 to volume 4, and as I zoomed back in to better see the format of the surrounding pages, it became clear the tile before the 'Begin' panel had the format of a title page. Double clicking
    on that image revealed that this was, in fact, the beginning of volume 4. (Had it not been, I would have returned to the tile view and gone to a previous or subsequent transition, as needed).

    taf
    Hmm...a creative and productive approach...thanks...

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