I have the Death Certificate of Susan Cooper who died of Chronic
Dysentery on 17 January 1838 in St Luke's Workhouse, Hoxton New Town.
She is described as a "Pauper"GED 39 and the death was registered on 19 >January by the Master of the Workhouse.
I also have an image from the Burial Register of St Luke's Old Street
which shows the burial of Susanna Cooper of Playhouse Yard, aged 39, on
28 January 1838.
Is it reasonable to assume that these records relate to the same person?
I cannot find another Death Registration or Burial record to fit. I
believe that at least the Burial is of my relative Susanna Fransham,
wife of William Edward Cooper who was also buried at St Luke's in 1838.
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 15:49:18 +0100, Jenny M Benson
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
I have the Death Certificate of Susan Cooper who died of Chronic
Dysentery on 17 January 1838 in St Luke's Workhouse, Hoxton New Town.
She is described as a "Pauper"GED 39 and the death was registered on 19
January by the Master of the Workhouse.
I also have an image from the Burial Register of St Luke's Old Street
which shows the burial of Susanna Cooper of Playhouse Yard, aged 39, on
28 January 1838.
Is it reasonable to assume that these records relate to the same person?
I cannot find another Death Registration or Burial record to fit. I
believe that at least the Burial is of my relative Susanna Fransham,
wife of William Edward Cooper who was also buried at St Luke's in 1838.
It would be very unusual in 1838 for there to be such a long gap
between death and burial, although January in 1838 (and until recent
times) would have been cold enough to freeze the corpse.
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 15:49:18 +0100, Jenny M Benson
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
I have the Death Certificate of Susan Cooper who died of Chronic
Dysentery on 17 January 1838 in St Luke's Workhouse, Hoxton New Town.
She is described as a "Pauper"GED 39 and the death was registered on 19
January by the Master of the Workhouse.
I also have an image from the Burial Register of St Luke's Old Street
which shows the burial of Susanna Cooper of Playhouse Yard, aged 39, on
28 January 1838.
Is it reasonable to assume that these records relate to the same person?
I cannot find another Death Registration or Burial record to fit. I
believe that at least the Burial is of my relative Susanna Fransham,
wife of William Edward Cooper who was also buried at St Luke's in 1838.
It would be very unusual in 1838 for there to be such a long gap
between death and burial, although January in 1838 (and until recent
times) would have been cold enough to freeze the corpse.
On 14/08/2022 17:50, Peter Johnson wrote:Burial definitely on 28th Jan, one of several that day, - which, come to
It might be worth inspecting the original records to determine whether
It would be very unusual in 1838 for there to be such a long gap
between death and burial, although January in 1838 (and until recent
times) would have been cold enough to freeze the corpse.
there isn't a 2 to 1 ot 1 to 2 error in the date recording. Are they in sequence with the adjacent records?
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 15:49:18 +0100, Jenny M Benson
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
I have the Death Certificate of Susan Cooper who died of Chronic
Dysentery on 17 January 1838 in St Luke's Workhouse, Hoxton New Town.
She is described as a "Pauper"GED 39 and the death was registered on 19
January by the Master of the Workhouse.
I also have an image from the Burial Register of St Luke's Old Street
which shows the burial of Susanna Cooper of Playhouse Yard, aged 39, on
28 January 1838.
Is it reasonable to assume that these records relate to the same person?
I cannot find another Death Registration or Burial record to fit. I
believe that at least the Burial is of my relative Susanna Fransham,
wife of William Edward Cooper who was also buried at St Luke's in 1838.
It would be very unusual in 1838 for there to be such a long gap
between death and burial, although January in 1838 (and until recent
times) would have been cold enough to freeze the corpse.
On Sun, 14 Aug 2022 15:49:18 +0100, Jenny M Benson
<NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
I have the Death Certificate of Susan Cooper who died of Chronic
Dysentery on 17 January 1838 in St Luke's Workhouse, Hoxton New Town.
She is described as a "Pauper"GED 39 and the death was registered on 19
January by the Master of the Workhouse.
I also have an image from the Burial Register of St Luke's Old Street
which shows the burial of Susanna Cooper of Playhouse Yard, aged 39, on
28 January 1838.
Is it reasonable to assume that these records relate to the same person?
I cannot find another Death Registration or Burial record to fit. I
believe that at least the Burial is of my relative Susanna Fransham,
wife of William Edward Cooper who was also buried at St Luke's in 1838.
It would be very unusual in 1838 for there to be such a long gap
between death and burial, although January in 1838 (and until recent
times) would have been cold enough to freeze the corpse.
I have the Death Certificate of Susan Cooper who died of Chronic Dysentery
on 17 January 1838 in St Luke's Workhouse, Hoxton New Town. She is
described as a "Pauper"GED 39 and the death was registered on 19 January by >the Master of the Workhouse.
I also have an image from the Burial Register of St Luke's Old Street which >shows the burial of Susanna Cooper of Playhouse Yard, aged 39, on 28
January 1838.
Is it reasonable to assume that these records relate to the same person? I >cannot find another Death Registration or Burial record to fit. I believe >that at least the Burial is of my relative Susanna Fransham, wife of
William Edward Cooper who was also buried at St Luke's in 1838.
If you can check the workhouse records they might be able to link the
two if it is the same person. The workhouse's own death records would
often record where she was buried or who claimed the body for burial. I
don't know when it was put into law but unclaimed bodies from workhouses
were often sent for medical research when it was.
Dying in the workhouse didn't necessarily mean she was an inmate of the system. Back then the local workhouse was also the local hospital for
those who could not afford private care so the workhouse infirmary
records could be a useful source.
Good hunting
On 22/08/2022 10:19, Gordon wrote:
If you can check the workhouse records they might be able to link the two
if it is the same person. The workhouse's own death records would often
record where she was buried or who claimed the body for burial. I don't
know when it was put into law but unclaimed bodies from workhouses were
often sent for medical research when it was.
Dying in the workhouse didn't necessarily mean she was an inmate of the
system. Back then the local workhouse was also the local hospital for
those who could not afford private care so the workhouse infirmary
records could be a useful source.
Good hunting
Thank you. I think LMA have the records but doubt I could get there to
look at them.
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