• 2 Weddings - 1 marriage

    From Jenny M Benson@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 28 13:40:11 2022
    On FreeBMD I found 2 entries for the marriage of cousin of mine in 1929.
    All the details are the same except for the page numbers. I have
    looked at the image and they are entered as 795 & 837.

    I then turned to the Lancashire BMD site and again there are 2 entries
    for the marriage, one at the Parish Church and one "Register Office or Registrar Attended."

    I know it is not that unusual for a couple to have a Civil Ceremony and
    some sort of religious marriage service or blessing of the union, but I
    haven't before come across 2 separate entries in the Register. Why
    would this be so? Could it be that the first wedding was at the Church
    and something not done correctly (according to civil law) so it had to
    be "corrected" at the Register Office?

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    Jenny M Benson
    Wrexham, UK

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  • From knuttle@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 28 09:12:26 2022
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  • From Charles Ellson@21:1/5 to keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net on Sat May 28 16:49:46 2022
    On Sat, 28 May 2022 09:12:26 -0400, knuttle
    <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


    On 5/28/2022 8:40 AM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On FreeBMD I found 2 entries for the marriage of cousin of mine in 1929.
     All the details are the same except for the page numbers.  I have
    looked at the image and they are entered as 795 & 837.

    I then turned to the Lancashire BMD site and again there are 2 entries
    for the marriage, one at the Parish Church and one "Register Office or
    Registrar Attended."

    I know it is not that unusual for a couple to have a Civil Ceremony and
    some sort of religious marriage service or blessing of the union, but I
    haven't before come across 2 separate entries in the Register.  Why
    would this be so?  Could it be that the first wedding was at the Church
    and something not done correctly (according to civil law) so it had to
    be "corrected" at the Register Office?

    It is possible that for what ever reason the marriage that was planned
    when the first register entry was made. Then the wedding actually
    occurred with the second entry.

    Another way this can occur if the Officials batch the entries. ie the >registrar enters a note in his notebook when he officiates a wedding.
    Then later he enters the information into the official register.

    I have examples of both scenarios in my data. In one case the two
    entries are a couple of years apart so the first may have expired. (I
    have not checked the legalities.)

    If the first marriage was valid then the second one would be void
    because the parties were already lawfully married. OTOH if the first
    marriage was void (rather than voidable) for some reason then the
    second marriage would be valid if the legal requirements were met. Was
    either party previously married ?

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  • From Ian Goddard@21:1/5 to Jenny M Benson on Sat May 28 18:37:22 2022
    On 28/05/2022 13:40, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On FreeBMD I found 2 entries for the marriage of cousin of mine in 1929.
     All the details are the same except for the page numbers.  I have
    looked at the image and they are entered as 795 & 837.

    I then turned to the Lancashire BMD site and again there are 2 entries
    for the marriage, one at the Parish Church and one "Register Office or Registrar Attended."

    I know it is not that unusual for a couple to have a Civil Ceremony and
    some sort of religious marriage service or blessing of the union, but I haven't before come across 2 separate entries in the Register.  Why
    would this be so?  Could it be that the first wedding was at the Church
    and something not done correctly (according to civil law) so it had to
    be "corrected" at the Register Office?

    I've got almost the opposite. A marriage licence for the parish in
    which they lived, banns in another, both with probably deliberate
    spelling errors in one name or the other, and no marriage I can find.

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  • From cecilia@21:1/5 to NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk on Fri Jul 8 19:18:59 2022
    On Sat, 28 May 2022 13:40:11 +0100, Jenny M Benson
    <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    On FreeBMD I found 2 entries for the marriage of cousin of mine in 1929.
    All the details are the same except for the page numbers. I have
    looked at the image and they are entered as 795 & 837.

    I then turned to the Lancashire BMD site and again there are 2 entries
    for the marriage, one at the Parish Church and one "Register Office or >Registrar Attended."

    I know it is not that unusual for a couple to have a Civil Ceremony and
    some sort of religious marriage service or blessing of the union, but I >haven't before come across 2 separate entries in the Register. Why
    would this be so? Could it be that the first wedding was at the Church
    and something not done correctly (according to civil law) so it had to
    be "corrected" at the Register Office?

    It's probably not relevant, but I heard of a wedding in the early
    1960s in an RC church with the Registrar present. Just before the
    start, the couple, the priest and the Registrar went to the vestry to
    discuiss the fact that the residence requiremenmt (three weeks) had
    not been satisfied - another few days were needed. With a large
    congregation in the church and a large meal waiting in a local hotel,
    the Registrar eventually agreed that the church service could go ahead
    on the understanding the couple would attend the Registry Office the
    next week for a civil ceremony, the priest managing to give the
    Registrar sufficient confidence that he (the priest) would see that
    they did.

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