• SGB archive

    From Jenny M Benson@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 17 14:07:19 2022
    I wanted to access an old message on SGB but when I went to Google
    Groups (which is no longer what it was last time I used it) I was
    refused access to this group because it "has been identified as
    containing spam, malware or other malicious content." (1)

    Is there now no way to search for old messages to this group?

    (1) Don't all newsgroups nowadays, to some extent?
    --
    Jenny M Benson
    Wrexham, UK

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  • From Enno Borgsteede@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 17 15:33:04 2022
    Op 17-05-2022 om 15:07 schreef Jenny M Benson:

    I wanted to access an old message on SGB but when I went to Google Groups (which is no longer what it was last time I used it) I was refused access to this group because it "has been identified as containing spam, malware or other malicious content." (
    1)

    Is there now no way to search for old messages to this group?

    (1) Don't all newsgroups nowadays, to some extent?

    I can read and search it here

    https://groups.google.com/g/soc.genealogy.benelux

    and I can even find messages going back to 2003 and earlier.

    Did you try to access it in another way, and if so, how?

    Or do you have some add-on that blocks access to adult content?

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 17 14:27:33 2022
    On Tue, 17 May 2022 at 14:07:19, Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk>
    wrote (my responses usually FOLLOW):
    I wanted to access an old message on SGB but when I went to Google
    Groups (which is no longer what it was last time I used it) I was
    refused access to this group because it "has been identified as
    containing spam, malware or other malicious content." (1)

    Is there now no way to search for old messages to this group?

    There are other usenet archives - the one I had bookmarked I was
    surprised to see still came up: http://al.howardknight.net/ . However,
    it seems to require the message ID, so is no good for searching. (But if
    you do know the MID ...)

    (1) Don't all newsgroups nowadays, to some extent?

    Yes (though some are a lot worse than others!); however, the generic
    nature of the above error message suggests it's sadly a result of
    something being automated, which I fear means its not going to change
    back. I have a similar problem with reporting spam emails: I want to
    forward them to phish@phishtank.com and report@phishing.gov.uk, but the subcontractor my ISP (PlusNet) uses to handle email bounces them with a similarly generic message - something like they contain "spam or virus".
    (Yes, that's the whole point of my passing them on to those recipients!)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    They are public servants, so we will threat them rather as Flashman treats servants. - Stephen Fry on some people's attitudo to the BBC, in Radio Times, 3-9 July 2010

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  • From john@21:1/5 to Jenny M Benson on Tue May 17 17:54:23 2022
    On 17/05/2022 15:07, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    I wanted to access an old message on SGB but when I went to Google
    Groups (which is no longer what it was last time I used it) I was
    refused access to this group because it "has been identified as
    containing spam, malware or other malicious content." (1)

    Is there now no way to search for old messages to this group?

    (1) Don't all newsgroups nowadays, to some extent?


    https://soc.genealogy.britain.narkive.com goes back to 2003

    The internet archive https://archive.org/download/usenet-soc has a 155Mb
    zipped MBOX file archive from 23 Oct 2000-17 Jun 2013 (623 Mb/15.4M
    lines unzipped) https://archive.org/download/usenet-soc/soc.genealogy.britain.mbox.zip

    Notepad++ can open it the mbox file. It is readable with a
    mbox-viewer.exe (but I
    stopped before it had loaded the whole file).

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  • From Jenny M Benson@21:1/5 to john on Wed May 18 15:26:20 2022
    On 17/05/2022 16:54, john wrote:
    On 17/05/2022 15:07, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    I wanted to access an old message on SGB but when I went to Google
    Groups (which is no longer what it was last time I used it) I was
    refused access to this group because it "has been identified as
    containing spam, malware or other malicious content." (1)

    Is there now no way to search for old messages to this group?

    (1) Don't all newsgroups nowadays, to some extent?


    https://soc.genealogy.britain.narkive.com goes back to 2003

    Many thanks, I've bookmarked that.


    --
    Jenny M Benson
    Wrexham, UK

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  • From Nigel Reed@21:1/5 to Jenny M Benson on Wed May 18 18:16:06 2022
    On Tue, 17 May 2022 14:07:19 +0100
    Jenny M Benson <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    I wanted to access an old message on SGB but when I went to Google
    Groups (which is no longer what it was last time I used it) I was
    refused access to this group because it "has been identified as
    containing spam, malware or other malicious content." (1)

    Is there now no way to search for old messages to this group?

    (1) Don't all newsgroups nowadays, to some extent?

    I run a usenet server. I'm asking my peers if anyone has a long
    retention then I can see about importing the articles. It's a long
    shot, but if so I could probably open up for read only access for free
    or post access for a small donation to help offset the cost of
    increasing disk space I'll likely need to hold it.



    --
    End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
    telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk on Wed May 25 06:38:30 2022
    On Tue, 17 May 2022 14:07:19 +0100, Jenny M Benson
    <NemoNews@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

    I wanted to access an old message on SGB but when I went to Google
    Groups (which is no longer what it was last time I used it) I was
    refused access to this group because it "has been identified as
    containing spam, malware or other malicious content." (1)

    Is there now no way to search for old messages to this group?

    (1) Don't all newsgroups nowadays, to some extent?

    There was a concerted effort by some spammers to take over some
    newsgroups. Nearly all the spam comes via GoogleGroups, and so many
    people complained about this one that Google refused access to this
    one. The spammers seem to have move3d to soc.genealogy.misc and a few
    others.


    --
    Steve Hayes
    Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
    http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

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  • From Jon Green@21:1/5 to Jenny M Benson on Wed Jul 27 22:03:53 2022
    On 17/05/2022 14:07, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    Is there now no way to search for old messages to this group?

    I think Eternal September's s.g.b content goes back to 2010 at least, if
    that's any help, you'll just need something like Thunderbird to access it.

    Jon
    --
    Maintainer, soc.genealogy.britain FAQs: www.genealogy-britain.org.uk
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