• Robin Roll in 1931

    From cecilia@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 16 01:12:39 2021
    Looking through the plans for food and drink of a large (400 invited,
    but only 200 accepted) garden party given by one of my grandmother's
    cousins in 1931, I was puxzzled by references to a "robin roll.". It
    seems to be a sort of cake, and i20 slices is about 3/4 of a robin
    roll.

    Has anyone come across a reference to a robin roll??

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  • From Ian Goddard@21:1/5 to cecilia on Mon Aug 16 08:56:57 2021
    On 16/08/2021 01:12, cecilia wrote:
    Looking through the plans for food and drink of a large (400 invited,
    but only 200 accepted) garden party given by one of my grandmother's
    cousins in 1931, I was puxzzled by references to a "robin roll.". It
    seems to be a sort of cake, and i20 slices is about 3/4 of a robin
    roll.

    Has anyone come across a reference to a robin roll??


    Robin *cake* was one of my mother's regular bakes. It was a sort of
    sponge cake but not as light as a Victoria sponge. A thin one might
    well be suitable for making a sort of Swiss roll. But a Swiss roll
    capable of being cut into 160 slices sounds vast.

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  • From john@21:1/5 to Ian Goddard on Mon Aug 16 13:29:13 2021
    On 16/08/2021 09:56, Ian Goddard wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 01:12, cecilia wrote:
    Looking through the plans for  food and drink of a large (400 invited,
    but only  200 accepted) garden party given by one of my grandmother's
    cousins in 1931, I was puxzzled by references to a "robin roll.".  It
    seems to be a sort of cake, and i20 slices is about 3/4 of a robin
    roll.

    Has anyone come across a reference to a robin roll??


    Robin *cake* was one of my mother's regular bakes.  It was a sort of
    sponge cake but not as light as a Victoria sponge.  A thin one might
    well be suitable for making a sort of Swiss roll.  But a Swiss roll
    capable of being cut into 160 slices sounds vast.

    From www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
    Yorkshire Evening Post - Thursday 03 October 1929
    ROBIN ROLL Make piece of short crust pastry by sieving half teaspoonful
    of baking powder with half a pound of flour. Add a teaspoonful of castor
    sugar and rub in four ounces of good dripping or butter and add enough
    cold water to make a firm paste. Knead it smooth and roll it out into a
    strip. Into a small stewpan put one and a half ounces each of butter and
    sugar, and melt these over mild heat; add one ounce of finely shredded
    candied peel, three ounces Seedless Sun-Maid Raisins and squeeze of
    lemon juice. When wall mixed spread this over the pastry; wet the edges
    with cold water, roll up securely and brush over the top with a little
    sugar moistened with milk. Bake moderate oven.

    It seems to have been a Sun-Maid recipe promoting the use of their raisins.

    I would suspect several rolls would need to be made to fit into an oven!

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  • From cecilia@21:1/5 to ianng@austonley.org.uk on Tue Aug 17 00:28:36 2021
    On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 08:56:57 +0100, Ian Goddard
    <ianng@austonley.org.uk> wrote:

    On 16/08/2021 01:12, cecilia wrote:
    Looking through the plans for food and drink of a large (400 invited,
    but only 200 accepted) garden party given by one of my grandmother's
    cousins in 1931, I was puxzzled by references to a "robin roll.". It
    seems to be a sort of cake, and i20 slices is about 3/4 of a robin
    roll.

    Has anyone come across a reference to a robin roll??


    Robin *cake* was one of my mother's regular bakes. It was a sort of
    sponge cake but not as light as a Victoria sponge. A thin one might
    well be suitable for making a sort of Swiss roll. But a Swiss roll
    capable of being cut into 160 slices sounds vast.



    Sorry - my typing is getting worse. i20 should have been 20 (slices
    from 3/4 of a robin roll)..

    Thank you for the Information about your mother's cake.

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  • From cecilia@21:1/5 to john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr on Tue Aug 17 00:28:36 2021
    On Mon, 16 Aug 2021 13:29:13 +0200, john
    <john1@s145802280.onlinehome.fr> wrote:

    On 16/08/2021 09:56, Ian Goddard wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 01:12, cecilia wrote:
    Looking through the plans for  food and drink of a large (400 invited,
    but only  200 accepted) garden party given by one of my grandmother's
    cousins in 1931, I was puxzzled by references to a "robin roll.".  It
    seems to be a sort of cake, and i20 slices is about 3/4 of a robin
    roll.

    Has anyone come across a reference to a robin roll??


    Robin *cake* was one of my mother's regular bakes.  It was a sort of
    sponge cake but not as light as a Victoria sponge.  A thin one might
    well be suitable for making a sort of Swiss roll.  But a Swiss roll
    capable of being cut into 160 slices sounds vast.

    From www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
    Yorkshire Evening Post - Thursday 03 October 1929
    ROBIN ROLL Make piece of short crust pastry by sieving half teaspoonful
    of baking powder with half a pound of flour. Add a teaspoonful of castor >sugar and rub in four ounces of good dripping or butter and add enough
    cold water to make a firm paste. Knead it smooth and roll it out into a >strip. Into a small stewpan put one and a half ounces each of butter and >sugar, and melt these over mild heat; add one ounce of finely shredded >candied peel, three ounces Seedless Sun-Maid Raisins and squeeze of
    lemon juice. When wall mixed spread this over the pastry; wet the edges
    with cold water, roll up securely and brush over the top with a little
    sugar moistened with milk. Bake moderate oven.

    It seems to have been a Sun-Maid recipe promoting the use of their raisins.

    I would suspect several rolls would need to be made to fit into an oven!



    Thank you.

    I think that's it.

    Armed with the knowledge, I searched the web for recipes like it, and immediately came across the Cornish "Figgy 'Obbin" at https://www.sainsburysmagazine.co.uk/lifestyle/food/top-5-baked-cornish-treats (It could just be coincidence that Robin and 'Obbin sound similar.)

    I later came across
    http://thatothercookingblog.com/2012/10/14/pan-de-jamon/ which offers
    a Venezuelan recipe (pan de jamon) that is similar when raisin-filled. Garabaldi biscuit construction comes to mind as well - they are all
    ways of dealing with the same ingredients.

    I thank both of you for your interest and help..

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  • From Ian Goddard@21:1/5 to john on Tue Aug 17 20:42:25 2021
    On 16/08/2021 12:29, john wrote:
    <

    From www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
    Yorkshire Evening Post - Thursday 03 October 1929
    ROBIN ROLL Make piece of short crust pastry by sieving half teaspoonful
    of baking powder with half a pound of flour. Add a teaspoonful of castor sugar and rub in four ounces of good dripping or butter and add enough
    cold water to make a firm paste. Knead it smooth and roll it out into a strip. Into a small stewpan put one and a half ounces each of butter and sugar, and melt these over mild heat; add one ounce of finely shredded candied peel, three ounces Seedless Sun-Maid Raisins and squeeze of
    lemon juice. When wall mixed spread this over the pastry; wet the edges
    with cold water, roll up securely and brush over the top with a little
    sugar moistened with milk. Bake moderate oven.

    It seems to have been a Sun-Maid recipe promoting the use of their raisins.

    I would suspect several rolls would need to be made to fit into an oven!



    We were just discussion this. My wife used to make something like this
    with a scone mix. The roll was sliced before baking. They were called
    tiger cakes. Perhaps the discussion will prompt her to have another go.
    It was years since she last made any.

    Ian

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  • From john@21:1/5 to john on Wed Aug 18 12:54:46 2021
    On 16/08/2021 13:29, john wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 09:56, Ian Goddard wrote:
    On 16/08/2021 01:12, cecilia wrote:
    Looking through the plans for  food and drink of a large (400 invited,
    but only  200 accepted) garden party given by one of my grandmother's
    cousins in 1931, I was puxzzled by references to a "robin roll.".  It
    seems to be a sort of cake, and i20 slices is about 3/4 of a robin
    roll.

    Has anyone come across a reference to a robin roll??


    Robin *cake* was one of my mother's regular bakes.  It was a sort of
    sponge cake but not as light as a Victoria sponge.  A thin one might
    well be suitable for making a sort of Swiss roll.  But a Swiss roll
    capable of being cut into 160 slices sounds vast.

    From www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk
    Yorkshire Evening Post - Thursday 03 October 1929
    ROBIN ROLL Make piece of short crust pastry by sieving half teaspoonful
    of baking powder with half a pound of flour. Add a teaspoonful of castor sugar and rub in four ounces of good dripping or butter and add enough
    cold water to make a firm paste. Knead it smooth and roll it out into a strip. Into a small stewpan put one and a half ounces each of butter and sugar, and melt these over mild heat; add one ounce of finely shredded candied peel, three ounces Seedless Sun-Maid Raisins and squeeze of
    lemon juice. When wall mixed spread this over the pastry; wet the edges
    with cold water, roll up securely and brush over the top with a little
    sugar moistened with milk. Bake moderate oven.

    It seems to have been a Sun-Maid recipe promoting the use of their raisins.

    I would suspect several rolls would need to be made to fit into an oven!





    I wouldn't be surprised if someone at Sun-Maid had French pain aux
    raisins (escargots) in mind when devising the recipe. They are made in a similar way although they use a yeast pastry.

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  • From cecilia@21:1/5 to ianng@austonley.org.uk on Wed Aug 18 11:47:35 2021
    On Tue, 17 Aug 2021 20:42:25 +0100, Ian Goddard
    <ianng@austonley.org.uk> wrote:

    We were just discussion this. My wife used to make something like this
    with a scone mix. The roll was sliced before baking. They were called
    tiger cakes. Perhaps the discussion will prompt her to have another go.
    It was years since she last made any.

    Ian


    https://neillsflour.co.uk/recipe/jenny-bristows-rolled-scone-bread-with-lemon-soaked-raisins-cinnamon-and-plums/

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