• Hello from an old timer

    From Athel Cornish-Bowden@21:1/5 to Vivienne Dunstan on Wed Jun 2 12:41:02 2021
    On 2021-06-02 10:26:04 +0000, Vivienne Dunstan said:

    Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially, posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.

    Sadly I fell ill with a progressive neurological illness in 1994, aged just 22. Luckily I’d already traced my family tree extensively, starting at just 8! So vital as my access to records in archives declined. But then online access opened up more records over time, so I can still do research from home. And I am still here, all these years on!

    Despite my progressive illness I managed to retrain part-time as an
    academic historian, picking up 3 more degrees, including a PhD. My academic historical research is Scottish focused, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries, ranging across social, cultural, urban and reading histories. All described at my website at https://vivdunstan.co.uk/

    I also have an active general musings blog, recent posts of which have reviewed a new Scottish genealogy book and reviewed the newly freely online Scottish kirk session records. https://vivsacademicblog.wordpress.com/

    Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long, long ago.

    Hi. I wasn't here in the 1990s so I didn't come across you then, but
    anyway, congratulations on making a success of your academic life
    despite your health problems.

    --
    Athel -- British, living in France for 34 years

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  • From Vivienne Dunstan@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 2 10:26:04 2021
    Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially,
    posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my
    maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.

    Sadly I fell ill with a progressive neurological illness in 1994, aged just
    22. Luckily I’d already traced my family tree extensively, starting at just 8! So vital as my access to records in archives declined. But then online access opened up more records over time, so I can still do research from
    home. And I am still here, all these years on!

    Despite my progressive illness I managed to retrain part-time as an
    academic historian, picking up 3 more degrees, including a PhD. My academic historical research is Scottish focused, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries,
    ranging across social, cultural, urban and reading histories. All described
    at my website at https://vivdunstan.co.uk/

    I also have an active general musings blog, recent posts of which have
    reviewed a new Scottish genealogy book and reviewed the newly freely online Scottish kirk session records. https://vivsacademicblog.wordpress.com/

    Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long, long ago.

    Best wishes.

    Viv

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  • From Steve Hayes@21:1/5 to viv.dunstan@one-name.org on Mon Jun 7 07:27:20 2021
    On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 10:26:04 GMT, Vivienne Dunstan
    <viv.dunstan@one-name.org> wrote:

    Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long, >long ago.

    Welcome back!


    --
    Steve Hayes
    Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
    http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

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  • From Gordon@21:1/5 to Vivienne Dunstan on Tue Jun 8 09:34:41 2021
    "Vivienne Dunstan" wrote in message news:01JtI.3890$Lr1.2823@fx08.ams1...

    Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group >particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially, >posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my >maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.

    Sadly I fell ill with a progressive neurological illness in 1994, aged just >22. Luckily I’d already traced my family tree extensively, starting at just >8! So vital as my access to records in archives declined. But then online >access opened up more records over time, so I can still do research from >home. And I am still here, all these years on!

    Despite my progressive illness I managed to retrain part-time as an
    academic historian, picking up 3 more degrees, including a PhD. My academic >historical research is Scottish focused, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries, >ranging across social, cultural, urban and reading histories. All described >at my website at https://vivdunstan.co.uk/

    I also have an active general musings blog, recent posts of which have >reviewed a new Scottish genealogy book and reviewed the newly freely online >Scottish kirk session records. https://vivsacademicblog.wordpress.com/

    Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long, >long ago.

    Best wishes.

    Viv

    I'm afraid there are not many of us "old ones" from then left on here but
    there are many new ones who are helpful. Sadly some of the "old timers" have past on.

    Welcome back.

    Good hunting

    Gordon

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  • From Ruth Wilson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 8 11:06:53 2021
    Some of us are still alive and kicking (and not *that* old! I haven't
    even got my bus pass - yet).
    It would be nice to have a more lively group. I must say when I have
    posted on here I do get helpful answers, and there isn't the eye-rolling ignorance you get on a lot of FB groups!

    So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
    burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in the
    1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in 1881.
    Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish church,
    which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.

    I can't see how to dig into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.

    Ruth

    I'm afraid there are not many of us "old ones" from then left on here
    but there are many new ones who are helpful. Sadly some of the "old
    timers" have past on.

    Welcome back.

    Good hunting

    Gordon



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  • From cecilia@21:1/5 to viv.dunstan@one-name.org on Tue Jun 8 12:02:59 2021
    On Wed, 02 Jun 2021 10:26:04 GMT, Vivienne Dunstan
    <viv.dunstan@one-name.org> wrote:

    Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group >particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially, >posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my >maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.
    [...]
    Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long, >long ago.
    Best wishes.
    Viv

    Before my start time, but welcome back.

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  • From Jenny M Benson@21:1/5 to Ruth Wilson on Tue Jun 8 13:59:01 2021
    On 08/06/2021 11:06, Ruth Wilson wrote:
    So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
    burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in the 1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in 1881.
    Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish church,
    which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.

    I can't see how to dig into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.

    If you look at the FS Catalogue, you will find 3 films for Upperby,
    including film #7561537 Parish Registers for Upperby, 1846-1930, on
    which items 15=22 include Burials 1846-1930. Then search Records,
    specifying that film number, name, date of death and place of death
    Upperby, Cumberland. You will then see the records you have already
    seen (at Ancestry?) but with the added knowledge that these are
    transcriptions of Parish Registers.

    (Pity that the LDS don't include the film number and/or title in the
    Citation they suggest.)

    --
    Jenny M Benson
    Wrexham, UK

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jun 8 17:31:54 2021
    On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 11:06:53, Ruth Wilson <ruth.wilson@virgin.net>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    []
    So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
    burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in
    the 1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in
    1881. Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish
    church, which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.

    I can't see how to dig

    Until I read on, I had visions of you visiting Cumb* with a spade on
    your shoulder, intending to find out beyond a doubt! [Probably carrying
    a flickering lantern ...]


    into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.
    []
    [I hope JMB's answer helps.]
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Have the courage to be ordinary - people make themselves so desperately unhappy trying to be clever and totally original. (Robbie Coltrane, RT 8-14 Nov. 1997.)

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 9 08:37:26 2021
    On 08/06/2021 17:31, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    Until I read on, I had visions of you visiting Cumb* with a spade on
    your shoulder, intending to find out beyond a doubt! [Probably carrying
    a flickering lantern ...]

    Some years ago there was a BBC series about parish priests, ministers
    etc. I think it was the one at Daliburgh who had to find a space for
    burial so he mapped out the burial ground by poking a long stiff wire
    into the ground to locate coffins.

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  • From Ruth Wilson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 9 09:04:54 2021
    On 08/06/2021 17:31, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    On Tue, 8 Jun 2021 at 11:06:53, Ruth Wilson <ruth.wilson@virgin.net>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    []
    So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
    burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in
    the 1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in
    1881. Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish
    church, which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.

    I can't see how to dig

    Until I read on, I had visions of you visiting Cumb* with a spade on
    your shoulder, intending to find out beyond a doubt! [Probably carrying
    a flickering lantern ...]


    into Family Search to see what the coverage is here.
    []
    [I hope JMB's answer helps.]
    What a great idea to help with the DNA ... I'm off to Anfield Cem!
    (thanks for the laugh!0

    Ruth

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  • From Ruth Wilson@21:1/5 to Jenny M Benson on Wed Jun 9 09:08:33 2021
    On 08/06/2021 13:59, Jenny M Benson wrote:
    On 08/06/2021 11:06, Ruth Wilson wrote:
    So here's a hard question for you oldies! England, Select deaths and
    burials gives me a couple of family buried in Upperby, Cumberland in
    the 1870s. There is a municipal cemetery there but that only opened in
    1881. Does that mean that my burials are likely to be from the parish
    church, which looks as if it is on the same site as the cemetery.

    I can't see how to dig into Family Search to see what the coverage is
    here.

    If you look at the FS Catalogue, you will find 3 films for Upperby,
    including film #7561537 Parish Registers for Upperby, 1846-1930, on
    which items 15=22 include Burials 1846-1930.  Then search Records, specifying that film number, name, date of death and place of death
    Upperby, Cumberland.  You will then see the records you have already
    seen (at Ancestry?) but with the added knowledge that these are transcriptions of Parish Registers.

    (Pity that the LDS don't include the film number and/or title in the
    Citation they suggest.)

    Thank-you. I can usually find out parishes, but just couldn't see a way
    to do it here. (I think I did originally see them at Ancestry, but
    always then check FS, just in case it leads back to a better source)

    See, this is much more helpful than the FB group which told me that
    a) there was a cemetery in Upperby (which I had already posted in the
    query) and
    b)someone asking about the phone number and email for said cemetery ...

    Ruth

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  • From Tony Proctor@21:1/5 to Vivienne Dunstan on Sun Aug 8 12:39:30 2021
    On 02/06/2021 11:26, Vivienne Dunstan wrote:
    Checking in to say hi from an old time user of Usenet and this group particularly. I was active on it in the early and mid 1990s especially, posting particularly about Scottish genealogy topics. I posted under my maiden name Moore and married name Dunstan.

    Sadly I fell ill with a progressive neurological illness in 1994, aged just 22. Luckily I’d already traced my family tree extensively, starting at just 8! So vital as my access to records in archives declined. But then online access opened up more records over time, so I can still do research from home. And I am still here, all these years on!

    Despite my progressive illness I managed to retrain part-time as an
    academic historian, picking up 3 more degrees, including a PhD. My academic historical research is Scottish focused, 16th, 17th and 18th centuries, ranging across social, cultural, urban and reading histories. All described at my website at https://vivdunstan.co.uk/

    I also have an active general musings blog, recent posts of which have reviewed a new Scottish genealogy book and reviewed the newly freely online Scottish kirk session records. https://vivsacademicblog.wordpress.com/

    Anyway just wanted to say hi to folks, especially to anyone else from long, long ago.

    Best wishes.

    Viv


    If the people from back then are still researching then they may have been distracted by the likes of Google Groups, Facebook Groups, and sundry
    forums. These groups here are not nearly as active as I remember them, let alone back in the 90s.

    As you're an expert in Scottish research, Viv, (smiling) would you be aware of anything resembling a one-name study for Campbell. I have a
    long-standing brick wall with a Scottish James Campbell living in Lancashire. Although married twice and having two children, I have found absolutely
    nothing outside of census pages, other than a couple of death certs. There must be relevant records missing but the clues are sparse.

    Tony

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