Hi All
searching for more data on (my great-great-uncle)
Stephen Bingham
Born: 1 May 1860 in Fritenden, Kent, England
Father: William Bingham
Mother: Mary Ann Ransley
Spouse: Anne / Fanny (Died Dec 1946)
any other data please, I've searched the sites I can access, but there seems >nothing on him
On 01/04/2021 17:37, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote:Also remember there are two parts to Family Search. There is the
Hi All
searching for more data on (my great-great-uncle)
Stephen Bingham
Born: 1 May 1860 in Fritenden, Kent, England
Father: William Bingham
Mother: Mary Ann Ransley
Spouse: Anne / Fanny (Died Dec 1946)
any other data please, I've searched the sites I can access, but there
seemsI'm not sure whether you have tried at all?
nothing on him
Even simple search for him in the free familysearch.org immediately
gives entries for the 1861,1871,1891,1911 censuses, birth, children's births, etc. and FreeBMD gives his death.
Hi All
searching for more data on (my great-great-uncle)
Stephen Bingham
Born: 1 May 1860 in Fritenden, Kent, England
Father: William Bingham
Mother: Mary Ann Ransley
Spouse: Anne / Fanny (Died Dec 1946)
any other data please, I've searched the sites I can access, but there seems nothing on him
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 16:37:55, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote (my >responses usually follow points raised):
Hi All
searching for more data on (my great-great-uncle)
Stephen Bingham
Born: 1 May 1860 in Fritenden, Kent, England
Father: William Bingham
Mother: Mary Ann Ransley
Spouse: Anne / Fanny (Died Dec 1946)
any other data please, I've searched the sites I can access, but there seems >>nothing on him
When asking for help like this, it helps to say what you _have_ accessed
01 April 2021 at 21:14, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:1965
Re: Stephen Bingham (at least in part)
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 16:37:55, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote (my
responses usually follow points raised):
Hi All
searching for more data on (my great-great-uncle)
Stephen Bingham
Born: 1 May 1860 in Fritenden, Kent, England
Father: William Bingham
Mother: Mary Ann Ransley
Spouse: Anne / Fanny (Died Dec 1946)
any other data please, I've searched the sites I can access, but there seems
nothing on him
When asking for help like this, it helps to say what you _have_ accessed
Noted (as a irregular poster here), I have searched these (from 1855 to
for all data inclusive)
"deceasedonline.com"
"familysearch.org"
"findagrave.com"
"findmypast.co.uk"
"freebmd.org.uk"
"freecen.org.uk"
"freereg.org.uk"
"freeukgen.rootsweb.com"
"freeukgenealogy.org.uk"
"genuki.org.uk"
"rootsuk.com"
"ukbmd.org.uk"
"ukbmdsearch.org.uk"
"ukcensusonline.com"
"woodchurchancestry.org.uk"
plus a few newspaper sites for any obits or stories that may put meat on my knowledge
It seems from other replies that there is data in the places I have searched but I still can't see it, there is a Stephen Bingham in Dover about 20 years after my one, after that it is hard to tell which is which, apart from a marrage in Dover in 1887 that I "assume" can't be the 1880 born Stephen
I thank you for your patience
There must be something wrong with your search strategies or you don't >understand registration districts can cover several towns!
Perhaps you could post your strategies for familysearch.org and FreeBMD so we >can help correct them??
Search familysearch.org with
First Names Stephen
Last Names Bingham
Birthplace Frittenden, Kent, England
Birth Year (Range) 1855 -1865
The first three hits are
Stephen Bingham
Son
England and Wales Census, 1861
birth:1861
Frittenden, Kent
residence:
1861
Biddenden, Kent, England, United Kingdom;Rogley Hill
other:
William Bingham, Mary A Bingham, Alfred W Bingham
Stephen Bingham
Head
England and Wales Census, 1901
birth:
1862
Frittenden, Kent
residence:
31 March 1901
Benenden, Kent, England, United Kingdom
spouse: Fanny Bingham
children: James W Bingham, Kate E Bingham, Mabel F Bingham, Olive E Bingham
searching for more data on (my great-great-uncle)
Stephen Bingham
Born: 1 May 1860 in Fritenden, Kent, England
Father: William Bingham
Mother: Mary Ann Ransley
Spouse: Anne / Fanny (Died Dec 1946)
There must be something wrong with your search strategies or you don't >understand registration districts can cover several towns!
Perhaps you could post your strategies for familysearch.org
and FreeBMD
02 April 2021 at 14:08, john wrote:
Re: Stephen Bingham (at least in part)
searching for more data on (my great-great-uncle)
Stephen Bingham
Born: 1 May 1860 in Fritenden, Kent, England
Father: William Bingham
Mother: Mary Ann Ransley
Spouse: Anne / Fanny (Died Dec 1946)
There must be something wrong with your search strategies or you don't
understand registration districts can cover several towns!
I do understand that
Perhaps you could post your strategies for familysearch.org
Familysearch
enter forename, surname, birthplace & birth year
search, wait
pick (or try) the one that looks most likely to be the one I need, even with a
very detailed UK birthplace, familysearch keeps throwing results from USA, also
the correct result is hit and miss, some times it shows some times it does not
and FreeBMD
enter all known details (or close dates) click find
chose the most likely (or check all) result
click the "Info" and/or the "glasses symbol"
try to find the data within the scanned image
as I'm most often looking birth/baptized to find parents the data from here is
not that useful
FreeGen & FreeCen have proved more helpful
On 02/04/2021 21:51, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
enter forename, surname, birthplace & birth year
search, wait
pick (or try) the one that looks most likely to be the one I need, even with a
very detailed UK birthplace, familysearch keeps throwing results from USA, also
the correct result is hit and miss, some times it shows some times it does not
It seems your search terms are rather odd if you are getting USA results
in familysearch.
I've just searched family trees on familysearch for
Stephen Bingham b 1855-1865 Kent, England
and there is a tree including Stephen Bingham b1860 with ancestors back
to 1706.
There is free access to Ancestry UK this weekend. I don't know whether
it includes public trees.
01 April 2021 at 21:14, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Re: Stephen Bingham (at least in part)
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 16:37:55, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote (my >>responses usually follow points raised):
Hi All
searching for more data on (my great-great-uncle)
Stephen Bingham
Born: 1 May 1860 in Fritenden, Kent, England
Father: William Bingham
Mother: Mary Ann Ransley
Spouse: Anne / Fanny (Died Dec 1946)
any other data please, I've searched the sites I can access, but there seems >>>nothing on him
When asking for help like this, it helps to say what you _have_ accessed
Noted (as a irregular poster here), I have searched these (from 1855 to 1965 >for all data inclusive)
"deceasedonline.com"
"familysearch.org"
"findagrave.com"
"findmypast.co.uk"
"freebmd.org.uk"
"freecen.org.uk"
"freereg.org.uk"
"freeukgen.rootsweb.com"
"freeukgenealogy.org.uk"
"genuki.org.uk"
"rootsuk.com"
"ukbmd.org.uk"
"ukbmdsearch.org.uk"
"ukcensusonline.com"
"woodchurchancestry.org.uk"
plus a few newspaper sites for any obits or stories that may put meat on my >knowledge
It seems from other replies that there is data in the places I have searched
but I still can't see it, there is a Stephen Bingham in Dover about 20 years >after my one, after that it is hard to tell which is which, apart from a >marrage in Dover in 1887 that I "assume" can't be the 1880 born Stephen
I thank you for your patience
Ah, sorry, I wasn't clear - when I said tell us where you've looked, I
meant specific records - e. g. 1861 census, birth index, someplace
parish record
03 April 2021 at 15:59, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Re: Stephen Bingham (at least in part)
Ah, sorry, I wasn't clear - when I said tell us where you've looked, I >>meant specific records - e. g. 1861 census, birth index, someplace
parish record
Sorry I see what you mean, it's just that the detail you (I) get from specific >records "seems" more dependant of the site you look, I admit to being spoiled, >most of my searches are for in and around Woodchurch Kent from there I >searched
Baptisms 1538-1989
Non-conformist Baptisms 1793-1984
Marriages 1538-1978
Banns 1754-1872
Burials 1538-1990
Parish Chest 1633-1849
Census Collection 1841-1901
Tenterden Union Workhouse Lists 1841-1901
Monumental Inscriptions
All Saints Cemetery Plans
Trade Directories
Absent Voters 1918
Newspaper Indexes
Tithe Assessment 1843
Pauper List 1833
Pauper List 1834
Electoral Roll 1832
Bonny Cravat Innkeepers
Mid-Kent Marriage Index
Romney Marsh Baptisms
Royal West Kent Bn Orders
Tenterden Vaccinations
W Ashford Vaccinations
I also said:
Perhaps, you could post all you _do_ know about your ancestor, saying for >each piece of information where (record, not site) where you got it; that way >we can avoid duplication of effort. Also, perhaps, if there's a specific >piece of information you _are_ after (and any you're _not_ interested in).
But I'll wait a couple of days so you can make the most of the Ancestry
free weekend (which, sadly, john told me doesn't include the public
trees, which is a pity).
He also said:
This is the specific Stephen Bingham b 1860 Frittenden, Kent tree >https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K2XC-T5H
04 April 2021 at 16:40, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Re: Stephen Bingham (at least in part)
I also said:
Perhaps, you could post all you _do_ know about your ancestor, saying for
each piece of information where (record, not site) where you got it; that way
we can avoid duplication of effort. Also, perhaps, if there's a specific
piece of information you _are_ after (and any you're _not_ interested in).
But I'll wait a couple of days so you can make the most of the Ancestry
free weekend (which, sadly, john told me doesn't include the public
trees, which is a pity).
He also said:
This is the specific Stephen Bingham b 1860 Frittenden, Kent tree
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K2XC-T5H
Many thanks for that
I spent all last night on there, adding the content of the tree to my data, I've got the direct line done, I will have to go back for the other children when my eye start to work again, and I can get on a faster broadband line and/or another browser, FS does not work well (or at all sometimes) with any of
my normal browsers/desktop PC's
for now I will double check the "new" data against the sources I use most
On 05/04/2021 07:35, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
This is the specific Stephen Bingham b 1860 Frittenden, Kent tree
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K2XC-T5H
Many thanks for that
I spent all last night on there, adding the content of the tree to my data,
for now I will double check the "new" data against the sources I use most
I still don't understand why you couldn't find that tree in familysearch;
I mentioned the link to J P Gilliver as being easily retrievable? Did you >even try the hints to find it I gave you?
I would recommend that, rather than just adding the content of the tree to >your data, you check the data first.
Best to just use public trees to aid your research.
Exact date searching can be a problem. Christenings may be the only
record of a birth and they can take place many years later (I think the >biggest gap I have is nine years!)
Searching for UK is not really a good idea.
I'm surprised you searched for Fritenden rather than Frittenden, especially >as you know the area, as that could limit your searches in some databases.
Towns near a county border could have their BMD recorded in the
registration district in a neighbouring county.
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05 April 2021 at 11:19, john wrote:
Re: Stephen Bingham (at least in part)
On 05/04/2021 07:35, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
This is the specific Stephen Bingham b 1860 Frittenden, Kent tree
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/K2XC-T5H
Many thanks for that
I spent all last night on there, adding the content of the tree to my data,
for now I will double check the "new" data against the sources I use most
I still don't understand why you couldn't find that tree in familysearch;
TBH, Family Search was not working for me (as I mentioned) and with sites that
did/do work...
I mentioned the link to J P Gilliver as being easily retrievable? Did you
even try the hints to find it I gave you?
Before I signed up I got random Stephen Binghams
After, even when I left FS "Transfering data from Edge.fscdn.org..." for 90 minutes the best I could get was a blank white screen or spinning "buffering"
It may be that I use a browser or PC that FS does not like
<ITguy rant> As PC's / browsers get faster and more powerful web developers "expect" more </ITguy rant>
I would recommend that, rather than just adding the content of the tree to >> your data, you check the data first.
As Easter is almost over (and I had a lappy I was cleaning/updating) I took the
chance, I will try to verify the data through other sources now
Best to just use public trees to aid your research.
Exact date searching can be a problem. Christenings may be the only
record of a birth and they can take place many years later (I think the
biggest gap I have is nine years!)
For most part my (birth?) data is from
Baptisms (1538-1989) or Non-conformist Baptisms (1793-1984)
I have, of late found that the vaccination records give a better idea of the actual birth date, it seems they were far more likely to vaccinate soon then Baptise later, maybe it was a requirment? (things don't change much!!)
Searching for UK is not really a good idea.
Never do, it's England, if I were not English I guess I may have done GB/UK searchs
I'm surprised you searched for Fritenden rather than Frittenden, especially >> as you know the area, as that could limit your searches in some databases.
Typo on my part sometimes, but usually select "soundex" just in case, spellings
being random in experence
Towns near a county border could have their BMD recorded in the
registration district in a neighbouring county.
I'm lucky there, but the same applies for village/town borders, not to mention
any local "friction" between villages or Church/Chapel
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I'll add that to my sessions thank you
resultsIt seems your search terms are rather odd if you are getting USA
in familysearch.
I would recommend that, rather than just adding the content of the tree
to your data, you check the data first. Best to just use public trees
to aid your research. Public trees are often riddled with errors and
the trees are blindly copied and the errors replicated elsewhere. And
then many of those tree owners are unwilling to update their trees when
given the correct information as it would be too much effort.
Exact date searching can be a problem. Christenings may be the only
record of a birth and they can take place many years later (I think the >biggest gap I have is nine years!)
Searching for UK is not really a good idea. Just about all databases
use the individual countries although some search engines will now
expand the search. I'm surprised you searched for Fritenden rather
than Frittenden, especially as you know the area, as that could limit
your searches in some databases.
Towns near a county border could have their BMD recorded in the
registration district in a neighbouring county. Many of the earlier >census/parish records were recorded by individuals who wrote down what
they heard. With strong local accents and without local area knowledge
that could easily result in mistakes.
handwriting. I remember some of the Ancestry census transcriptions had >problems with children born within a year before the census who
recorded as x months old. Unfortunately their age was often recorded as
x years old.
The free Lost Cousins https://www.lostcousins.com newsletter often has
useful Masterclasses on genealogy searching techniques; a search for >site:www.lostcousins.com masterclass
will give you links to them.
This is a recent one on MASTERCLASS: Tracking down pre-1837 baptisms
and marriages >https://www.lostcousins.com/newsletters2/endmar21news.htm#Masterclass
On 05/04/2021 14:09, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
05 April 2021 at 11:19, john wrote:
Re: Stephen Bingham (at least in part)
For most part my (birth?) data is from
Baptisms (1538-1989) or Non-conformist Baptisms (1793-1984)
I have, of late found that the vaccination records give a better idea of the >> actual birth date, it seems they were far more likely to vaccinate soon then >> Baptise later, maybe it was a requirment? (things don't change much!!)
Perhaps you can give a link to those vaccination records?
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