Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the
family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and
Death dates.
I like the Ancestry tree format and the ability it offers to scroll around easily, and for sheer simplicity I still use "Simple Family Tree" for a
quick viewing!!
But I'm darned if I can find any that include the marriage date.

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18 March 2021 at 9:59, Geoff wrote:
Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and
Death dates

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but I can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the required dates)

and it's free (works on all windows from Win98 to Win10)

https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm

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18 March 2021 at 9:59, Geoff wrote:
Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and
Death dates

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but I can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the required dates)

and it's free (works on all windows from Win98 to Win10)

https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm

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wrote in message news:6054603C.9430.74DFBD@real_grizz_adams.yahoo.co.uk...

18 March 2021 at 9:59, Geoff wrote:
Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and
Death dates

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but I can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the required dates)

and it's free (works on all windows from Win98 to Win10)

https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm

Thanks. I'll give that one a try.

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 08:25:04 -0000, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

18 March 2021 at 9:59, Geoff wrote:
Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >>family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and >>Death dates

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but I >can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the >required dates)

and it's free (works on all windows from Win98 to Win10)

https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm

Free? "

Brother's Keeper 7.5 for Windows - for new users - the Full version
with printed manual and diskBrother's Keeper 7.5 for Windows - for new
users - the Full version with printed manual and disk
$45.00
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19 March 2021 at 10:57, Bill Day wrote:
Re: Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but I >>can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the >>required dates)

and it's free (works on all windows from Win98 to Win10)

https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm

Free? "

Brother's Keeper 7.5 for Windows - for new users - the Full version
with printed manual and diskBrother's Keeper 7.5 for Windows - for new
users - the Full version with printed manual and disk
$45.00

No need for the printed manual just download

https://www.bkwin.org/bksetup7E.EXE

that's the englidh version

https://www.bkwin.org/bksetup7.EXE

that's the multi language exe

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 10:57:14, Bill Day <extreeNONSENSE@verizon.net>
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 08:25:04 -0000, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

18 March 2021 at 9:59, Geoff wrote:
Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >>>family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and >>>Death dates

When I read that question, I was sort of assuming that a standalone
GeDCom viewer would be the answer, but ...

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but I >>can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the >>required dates)

... it hadn't occurred to me that of course most genealogy software can
import GeDCom, so - assuming it can display as required - any such would suffice. Of course, Geoff may not want to install a whole genealogy
software. (Geoff - what genealogy software do you use, can it import a
GeDCom, and can it display as you wish?)

and it's free (works on all windows from Win98 to Win10)

https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm

Free? "

Brother's Keeper 7.5 for Windows - for new users - the Full version
with printed manual and diskBrother's Keeper 7.5 for Windows - for new
users - the Full version with printed manual and disk
$45.00

Well, it's shareware - the free download is supposed to be trial, and
has _some_ limitations (e. g., some output formats aren't available, and
there are some limitations on some numbers). It doesn't expire, though,
and the limitations probably would never impact a large number of
potential users. (I'd say its main limitation - for a new user! - is its ridiculously old-fashioned look and way of working; some of its fans
probably would say gloriously so! [I do worry about the future income
stream, though - I think it _would_ put new users off, and we existing
users will die off in time.] The _support_ is pretty unparalleled - as
well as a good user group [mailing list which a good mail/news client
should be able to present as a newsgroup], the developer [John Steed]
pops up a lot, and will personally respond too [not sure if to unpaid
users].)
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- John J. Kinyon

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19 March 2021 at 17:42, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Re: Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Well, it's shareware - the free download is supposed to be trial, and
has _some_ limitations (e. g., some output formats aren't available, and >there are some limitations on some numbers). It doesn't expire,

As a user of over 30 years, I can attest to that, I started on an old DOS PC, and IIRC could print to an old A3 line printer (on fan feed paper) my whole tree in one go, of cause now my tree is far larger and I don't have a line printer any longer, but the options have improved ;->)

though, and the limitations probably would never impact a large number of >potential users.

and "If" you encounter one, the programe tells you the code to "test" that feature

The _support_ is pretty unparalleled - as well as a good user group [mailing >list which a good mail/news client should be able to present as a newsgroup],

I'd love to know that list, although so far I have not needed one, it can never hurt to chat with other BK users

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 at 05:43:27, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):

19 March 2021 at 17:42, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Re: Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Well, it's shareware - the free download is supposed to be trial, and
has _some_ limitations (e. g., some output formats aren't available, and >>there are some limitations on some numbers). It doesn't expire,

As a user of over 30 years, I can attest to that, I started on an old DOS PC, >and IIRC could print to an old A3 line printer (on fan feed paper) my whole >tree in one go, of cause now my tree is far larger and I don't have a line >printer any longer, but the options have improved ;->)

Go on, buy a copy - 30 years is rather a long time (-:!

though, and the limitations probably would never impact a large number of >>potential users.

and "If" you encounter one, the programe tells you the code to "test" that >feature

I either didn't know that, or have forgotten.

The _support_ is pretty unparalleled - as well as a good user group [mailing >>list which a good mail/news client should be able to present as a newsgroup],

I'd love to know that list, although so far I have not needed one, it
can never
hurt to chat with other BK users

List submission address: BrothersKeeperGenealogy@groups.io
List control address: BrothersKeeperGenealogy+subscribe@groups.io
Type of list: Majordomo

Is that sufficient? I'm afraid I can't remember how I subscribed! There
may be something at https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/ .
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

User Error: Replace user, hit any key to continue.

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I use Ancestry and have done so for many, many years, with around 1600 names going back to the mid 17th century. It does, of course import Gedcoms, and
I like its ability to scroll around easily. I just wish the boxes could show the marriage date as well. I also have FMP at the moment but I don't like
its tree format (just a personal choice). As I said before, I also run
Simple Family Tree . It is very old and very basic but for quick reference
it is useful to have open alongside Ancestry. So, from the tree building
and research point of view, I am content with what I have. I was just
looking for a Gedcom "VIEWER" that would show all three B M D in the box.



"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
news:$MSP4CM6JOVgFwVd@255soft.uk...

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 10:57:14, Bill Day <extreeNONSENSE@verizon.net>
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 08:25:04 -0000, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

18 March 2021 at 9:59, Geoff wrote:
Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >>>family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and >>>Death dates

When I read that question, I was sort of assuming that a standalone
GeDCom viewer would be the answer, but ...

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but >>I
can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the >>required dates)

... it hadn't occurred to me that of course most genealogy software can
import GeDCom, so - assuming it can display as required - any such would suffice. Of course, Geoff may not want to install a whole genealogy
software. (Geoff - what genealogy software do you use, can it import a
GeDCom, and can it display as you wish?)

and it's free (works on all windows from Win98 to Win10)

https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm

Free? "

Brother's Keeper 7.5 for Windows - for new users - the Full version
with printed manual and diskBrother's Keeper 7.5 for Windows - for new
users - the Full version with printed manual and disk
$45.00

Well, it's shareware - the free download is supposed to be trial, and
has _some_ limitations (e. g., some output formats aren't available, and
there are some limitations on some numbers). It doesn't expire, though,
and the limitations probably would never impact a large number of
potential users. (I'd say its main limitation - for a new user! - is its ridiculously old-fashioned look and way of working; some of its fans
probably would say gloriously so! [I do worry about the future income
stream, though - I think it _would_ put new users off, and we existing
users will die off in time.] The _support_ is pretty unparalleled - as
well as a good user group [mailing list which a good mail/news client
should be able to present as a newsgroup], the developer [John Steed]
pops up a lot, and will personally respond too [not sure if to unpaid
users].)
--
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"Usenet is a way of being annoyed by people you otherwise never would have met."
- John J. Kinyon

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:42:18 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 10:57:14, Bill Day <extreeNONSENSE@verizon.net>
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 08:25:04 -0000, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

18 March 2021 at 9:59, Geoff wrote:
Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >>>>family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and >>>>Death dates

When I read that question, I was sort of assuming that a standalone
GeDCom viewer would be the answer, but ...

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but I >>>can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the >>>required dates)

https://www.bkwin.org/version7.htm

Free? "

Well, it's shareware - the free download is supposed to be trial, and
has _some_ limitations (e. g., some output formats aren't available, and >there are some limitations on some numbers). It doesn't expire, though,
and the limitations probably would never impact a large number of
potential users. (I'd say its main limitation - for a new user! - is its >ridiculously old-fashioned look and way of working; some of its fans
probably would say gloriously so! [I do worry about the future income
stream, though - I think it _would_ put new users off, and we existing
users will die off in time.]

I installed it, and I can attest to " its ridiculously old-fashioned
look and way of working". As to limitations, yes, it does limit quite
a few features that I would want. I use Simple Family Tree for most of
my entries as it will show me very large groups of people on one
screen... and will instantly switch to other views. It also allows
opening multiple windows to compare times and groups. (I have over
1600 entries so far, some dating back to 1000 and further.) It allows
one image..linked to a file which I store in the SFT folder.

If I wish to add more data and/or images, I do have a couple other
programs. The most clear & useful is https://www.ahnenblatt.com/...
which has a limited 'fee' version plus a trial and a full paid
version.
SFT has a couple of issues with entry format...especially back before
clear & distinct surnames (1400 or so and before) and with titles, as
it alphabetizes on the last part... thus "Bardolf fitz Eudes, Lord of Ravensworth" will appear in the "list of individuals" under '
Ravensworth' when you'd rather it be Eudes or Bardolf.... and John
Jones III will appear as III, requiring John III Jones. I deal with
it. Then, dates before 1000 must be preceded by a 0... so I have
Geoffroy I, duc de Bretagne as 0980-1008.
I began this way about 6 years ago, and re-doing it all in a more
complex, paid program is far too daunting at my age.

(I did have another program which, on startup, checked everything for
format and missing dates...etc. I have so many where various dates are
not known that I just monitor things myself.)

I live in the USA with some ancestors from the early colonies, so
fully 90% of my ancestry goes back to England, with a few French,
Dutch and Scottish links. This is the only group that seems to discuss
anything related to my lines.. so I just mostly lurk.

Bill Day, Maryland
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20 March 2021 at 9:30, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
Brother's Keeper (was: Re: Gedcom viewer) (at least in part)

Go on, buy a copy - 30 years is rather a long time (-:!

You could be right, it's just one of those apps that sit for ages till I have a moment to "try" to find more data, rest of the time I forget it's there

And for a few years (many) I've been trying to leave Windows for Ubuntu, not yet tried BK7 under Wine 6.xx

and "If" you encounter one, the programe tells you the code to "test" that >>feature

I either didn't know that, or have forgotten.

I only ever see that "when" I try to use some new or big feature (usually the number of generation I want to output/print)

List control address: BrothersKeeperGenealogy+subscribe@groups.io

Is that sufficient? I'm afraid I can't remember how I subscribed! There may >be something at https://groups.io/g/BrothersKeeperGenealogy/ .

I'll give it a go and see, I do have other groups.io lists

Many thanks

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Geoff wrote:

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and
Death dates.
I like the Ancestry tree format and the ability it offers to scroll around >easily, and for sheer simplicity I still use "Simple Family Tree" for a
quick viewing!!
But I'm darned if I can find any that include the marriage date.

I haven't used it myself, but this might be interesting

https://www.gedsite.com/en/index.htm

"GedSite creates web pages from a GEDCOM file. It generates
either narrative or grid style person pages, a master index, a
surname index, source pages, and any other pages you wish to add.
You can review the site on your own PC before you share it with
anyone. You can publish it on the web, or distribute it via a DVD
or flash drive."

I have used some of the developer's other products, and found
them to be really useful. He gives great support on related mail
lists.

Chris
--
Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK
chris@cdixon.me.uk @ChrisJDixon1

Plant amazing Acers.

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On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 17:42:18 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 at 10:57:14, Bill Day <extreeNONSENSE@verizon.net>
wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):

On Fri, 19 Mar 2021 08:25:04 -0000, real_grizz_adams@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

18 March 2021 at 9:59, Geoff wrote:
Gedcom viewer (at least in part)

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the >>>>family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and >>>>Death dates

When I read that question, I was sort of assuming that a standalone
GeDCom viewer would be the answer, but ...

Brothers Keeper will show them, I've not so far imported a GedCom file but I >>>can see no reason that it would not (as long as the GedCom includes the >>>required dates)

... it hadn't occurred to me that of course most genealogy software can >import GeDCom, so - assuming it can display as required - any such would >suffice. Of course, Geoff may not want to install a whole genealogy
software. (Geoff - what genealogy software do you use, can it import a >GeDCom, and can it display as you wish?)

Of course most genealogy PROGRAMS will IMPORT a Gedcom file and show
marriage dates, but the only ones that would answer this question are
ones that use the GEDCOM as their natve file format, and there are a
few of those, but they are very few.

The question was not about IMPORTING a GEDCOM file, but about READING
one, and Brother's Keeper does not do that, because GEDCOM is NOT its
native file format.




--
Steve Hayes
Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

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On Sat, 20 Mar 2021 10:19:35 -0000, "Geoff" <onlyme101@btinternet.com>
wrote:

I use Ancestry and have done so for many, many years, with around 1600 names >going back to the mid 17th century. It does, of course import Gedcoms, and
I like its ability to scroll around easily. I just wish the boxes could show >the marriage date as well. I also have FMP at the moment but I don't like >its tree format (just a personal choice). As I said before, I also run >Simple Family Tree . It is very old and very basic but for quick reference >it is useful to have open alongside Ancestry. So, from the tree building
and research point of view, I am content with what I have. I was just >looking for a Gedcom "VIEWER" that would show all three B M D in the box.

One that I have, but haven't used much, is Dynastree. I think it is a
genealogy program, but it uses Gedcom as as its native file format.




--
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Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/
http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/

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On Thu, 18 Mar 2021 09:59:33 +0000, Geoff wrote:

Does anyone know of a gedcom viewer that includes marriage dates in the family view display boxes. All the ones I know of, only show Birth and
Death dates.
I like the Ancestry tree format and the ability it offers to scroll
around easily, and for sheer simplicity I still use "Simple Family Tree"
for a quick viewing!!
But I'm darned if I can find any that include the marriage date.

Genviewer from mudcreek software appears to do what you want

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