• Difficulty reading a place name

    From Richard Smith@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 7 19:27:00 2017
    I wonder whether anyone can help me read a place name that appears twice
    in parish register of Neuville-en-Beaumont, Département de la Manche.
    In the two images below I have drawn a red box around the word in question.

    http://www.ex-parrot.com/~richard/tmp/Jacques_Gosselin_burial.png http://www.ex-parrot.com/~richard/tmp/Jacques_Gosselin_marriage_p1.png

    Can anyone make out the word? From context they should both be the same
    place, and the end of the word looks the same in both cases. However I
    won't say it here what I think the end of the word is so anyone looking
    can approach with a fresh mind.

    I don't have any clues as to where the place might be, but as there's no département listed, I assume it's either somewhere local to Neuville or
    a a big, well-known place. For the latter, following lists of places in
    la Manche might help:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_communes_de_la_Manche https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_anciennes_communes_de_la_Manche

    Richard

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  • From Denis Beauregard@21:1/5 to richard@ex-parrot.com on Tue Mar 7 20:44:21 2017
    On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:27:00 +0000, Richard Smith
    <richard@ex-parrot.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.french:

    I wonder whether anyone can help me read a place name that appears twice
    in parish register of Neuville-en-Beaumont, Département de la Manche.
    In the two images below I have drawn a red box around the word in question.

    http://www.ex-parrot.com/~richard/tmp/Jacques_Gosselin_burial.png

    I read Hyplot

    http://www.ex-parrot.com/~richard/tmp/Jacques_Gosselin_marriage_p1.png

    Clearly Yvetot which exists (there are some of them).

    Can anyone make out the word? From context they should both be the same >place, and the end of the word looks the same in both cases. However I
    won't say it here what I think the end of the word is so anyone looking
    can approach with a fresh mind.

    I don't have any clues as to where the place might be, but as there's no >département listed, I assume it's either somewhere local to Neuville or
    a a big, well-known place. For the latter, following lists of places in
    la Manche might help:

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_communes_de_la_Manche >https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_anciennes_communes_de_la_Manche

    A better place to see old maps:

    www.geoportail.gouv.fr

    Click on "1" on the right side to select what is displayed.
    Culture et patrimoine, then Cassini.


    Denis

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  • From Richard Smith@21:1/5 to Denis Beauregard on Wed Mar 8 12:32:19 2017
    On 08/03/17 01:44, Denis Beauregard wrote:
    On Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:27:00 +0000, Richard Smith
    <richard@ex-parrot.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.french:

    I wonder whether anyone can help me read a place name that appears twice
    in parish register of Neuville-en-Beaumont, Département de la Manche.
    In the two images below I have drawn a red box around the word in question. >>
    http://www.ex-parrot.com/~richard/tmp/Jacques_Gosselin_burial.png

    I read Hyplot

    That's what I got too.

    http://www.ex-parrot.com/~richard/tmp/Jacques_Gosselin_marriage_p1.png

    Clearly Yvetot which exists (there are some of them).

    It's interesting how much a fresh pair of eyes helps. I was convinced
    the first letter was a 'J' -- compare for example with the 'J' of Jeanne
    at the beginning of the same line, and had concluded it was something
    like Juelott.

    Yvetot makes complete sense as there is an Yvetot-Bocage about 20km away
    on the Cotentin peninsula. There's a rather larger Yvetot in
    Seine-Maritime, 200km away at the opposite end of Normandy.

    I'll take a look through the Yvetot-Bocage parish register to see if
    Jacques appears in it.

    A better place to see old maps:

    www.geoportail.gouv.fr

    Click on "1" on the right side to select what is displayed.
    Culture et patrimoine, then Cassini.

    Thank you. What a splendid site.

    While I'm here, let me ask another question. I'm relatively new to
    research in France. In England, parish registers have been transcribed
    in many places. Family history societies have transcribed whole
    counties and published them on CDs. Other counties have put their
    records online with Ancestry or FindMyPast together with transcripts.
    Are there similar resources for French départements, and in particular
    Manche? If so, how does one go about locating them?

    Richard

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  • From Denis Beauregard@21:1/5 to richard@ex-parrot.com on Wed Mar 8 08:37:05 2017
    On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 12:32:19 +0000, Richard Smith
    <richard@ex-parrot.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.french:

    While I'm here, let me ask another question. I'm relatively new to
    research in France. In England, parish registers have been transcribed
    in many places. Family history societies have transcribed whole
    counties and published them on CDs. Other counties have put their
    records online with Ancestry or FindMyPast together with transcripts.
    Are there similar resources for French départements, and in particular >Manche? If so, how does one go about locating them?


    The principal sites are :

    www.geneabank.org - You must be a member (adherent) of a participating
    society to see the results of a research (research is free but you
    can't see the results)

    www.bigenet.fr - It is a pay-for site, but somehow expensive.

    www.genealogie.com and www.filae.com - It is similar to Ancestry,
    i.e. a commercial site.

    www.geneanet.org - Partly free, partly pay-for. Perhaps the largest
    collection of users' data in France.


    Denis

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    Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ French in North America before 1722 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/
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  • From jordanvandenberg@hotmail.com@21:1/5 to Denis Beauregard on Sat Mar 11 07:00:17 2017
    The links Denis mentioned are excellent.

    A method in which I have had some success tracking down the parish records free of charge for some of my wife’s ancestors in France is using the site Denis mentioned: www.bigenet.fr as an index and then going to the archives for the department.

    Here are a few of the departmental archives that I have used that have place the images for their parish records or d’état civil records online.

    la Charente Maritime: http://archinoe.net/v2/ad17/registre.html
    Meurthe & Moselle: http://archivesenligne.archives.cg54.fr/s/1/etat-civil/?
    la Drome: http://archives.ladrome.fr/?id=recherche_guidee
    Rennes: http://www.archives.rennes.fr/archives-et-inventaires/archives-en-ligne/registres-paroissiaux/
    Vaucluse: http://e-archives.vaucluse.fr/ead.html?id=FRAD084_paroissiaux#!{"content":["FRAD084_paroissiaux_e0000018",true,""]}

    I am sure that there are a number of other departments that have also digitized their parish records, but I have not looked at this point.

    Hope this helps,
    Jordan Vandenberg.



    On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 8:37:03 AM UTC-5, Denis Beauregard wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 12:32:19 +0000, Richard Smith
    <richard@ex-parrot.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.french:

    While I'm here, let me ask another question. I'm relatively new to >research in France. In England, parish registers have been transcribed
    in many places. Family history societies have transcribed whole
    counties and published them on CDs. Other counties have put their
    records online with Ancestry or FindMyPast together with transcripts.
    Are there similar resources for French départements, and in particular >Manche? If so, how does one go about locating them?


    The principal sites are :

    www.geneabank.org - You must be a member (adherent) of a participating society to see the results of a research (research is free but you
    can't see the results)

    www.bigenet.fr - It is a pay-for site, but somehow expensive.

    www.genealogie.com and www.filae.com - It is similar to Ancestry,
    i.e. a commercial site.

    www.geneanet.org - Partly free, partly pay-for. Perhaps the largest collection of users' data in France.


    Denis

    --
    Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG)
    Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ French in North America before 1722 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ Sur cédérom à 1785 - On CD-ROM to 1785

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  • From Richard van Schaik@21:1/5 to jordanvandenberg@hotmail.com on Sat Mar 11 16:12:08 2017
    Personally I'm using: https://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Archives_d%C3%A9partementales_en_ligne
    which looks similar.

    On 11/03/2017 16:00, jordanvandenberg@hotmail.com wrote:
    The links Denis mentioned are excellent.

    A method in which I have had some success tracking down the parish records free of charge for some of my wife’s ancestors in France is using the site Denis mentioned: www.bigenet.fr as an index and then going to the archives for the department.

    Here are a few of the departmental archives that I have used that have place the images for their parish records or d’état civil records online.

    la Charente Maritime: http://archinoe.net/v2/ad17/registre.html
    Meurthe & Moselle: http://archivesenligne.archives.cg54.fr/s/1/etat-civil/? la Drome: http://archives.ladrome.fr/?id=recherche_guidee
    Rennes: http://www.archives.rennes.fr/archives-et-inventaires/archives-en-ligne/registres-paroissiaux/
    Vaucluse: http://e-archives.vaucluse.fr/ead.html?id=FRAD084_paroissiaux#!{"content":["FRAD084_paroissiaux_e0000018",true,""]}

    I am sure that there are a number of other departments that have also digitized their parish records, but I have not looked at this point.

    Hope this helps,
    Jordan Vandenberg.



    On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 8:37:03 AM UTC-5, Denis Beauregard wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 12:32:19 +0000, Richard Smith
    <richard@ex-parrot.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.french:

    While I'm here, let me ask another question. I'm relatively new to
    research in France. In England, parish registers have been transcribed
    in many places. Family history societies have transcribed whole
    counties and published them on CDs. Other counties have put their
    records online with Ancestry or FindMyPast together with transcripts.
    Are there similar resources for French départements, and in particular
    Manche? If so, how does one go about locating them?


    The principal sites are :

    www.geneabank.org - You must be a member (adherent) of a participating
    society to see the results of a research (research is free but you
    can't see the results)

    www.bigenet.fr - It is a pay-for site, but somehow expensive.

    www.genealogie.com and www.filae.com - It is similar to Ancestry,
    i.e. a commercial site.

    www.geneanet.org - Partly free, partly pay-for. Perhaps the largest
    collection of users' data in France.


    Denis

    --
    Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG)
    Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ >> French in North America before 1722 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/ >> Sur cédérom à 1785 - On CD-ROM to 1785



    --
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    f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com
    http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/
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  • From jordanvandenberg@hotmail.com@21:1/5 to Richard van Schaik on Sat Mar 11 07:20:57 2017
    Richard,
    Thank you very much for the link. That is awesome.
    Jordan.

    On Saturday, March 11, 2017 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-5, Richard van Schaik wrote:
    Personally I'm using: https://fr.geneawiki.com/index.php/Archives_d%C3%A9partementales_en_ligne which looks similar.

    On 11/03/2017 16:00, jordanvandenberg@hotmail.com wrote:
    The links Denis mentioned are excellent.

    A method in which I have had some success tracking down the parish records free of charge for some of my wife’s ancestors in France is using the site Denis mentioned: www.bigenet.fr as an index and then going to the archives for the department.

    Here are a few of the departmental archives that I have used that have place the images for their parish records or d’état civil records online.

    la Charente Maritime: http://archinoe.net/v2/ad17/registre.html
    Meurthe & Moselle: http://archivesenligne.archives.cg54.fr/s/1/etat-civil/? la Drome: http://archives.ladrome.fr/?id=recherche_guidee
    Rennes: http://www.archives.rennes.fr/archives-et-inventaires/archives-en-ligne/registres-paroissiaux/
    Vaucluse: http://e-archives.vaucluse.fr/ead.html?id=FRAD084_paroissiaux#!{"content":["FRAD084_paroissiaux_e0000018",true,""]}

    I am sure that there are a number of other departments that have also digitized their parish records, but I have not looked at this point.

    Hope this helps,
    Jordan Vandenberg.



    On Wednesday, March 8, 2017 at 8:37:03 AM UTC-5, Denis Beauregard wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 12:32:19 +0000, Richard Smith
    <richard@ex-parrot.com> wrote in soc.genealogy.french:

    While I'm here, let me ask another question. I'm relatively new to
    research in France. In England, parish registers have been transcribed >>> in many places. Family history societies have transcribed whole
    counties and published them on CDs. Other counties have put their
    records online with Ancestry or FindMyPast together with transcripts.
    Are there similar resources for French départements, and in particular >>> Manche? If so, how does one go about locating them?


    The principal sites are :

    www.geneabank.org - You must be a member (adherent) of a participating
    society to see the results of a research (research is free but you
    can't see the results)

    www.bigenet.fr - It is a pay-for site, but somehow expensive.

    www.genealogie.com and www.filae.com - It is similar to Ancestry,
    i.e. a commercial site.

    www.geneanet.org - Partly free, partly pay-for. Perhaps the largest
    collection of users' data in France.


    Denis

    --
    Denis Beauregard - généalogiste émérite (FQSG)
    Les Français d'Amérique du Nord - www.francogene.com/genealogie--quebec/ >> French in North America before 1722 - www.francogene.com/quebec--genealogy/
    Sur cédérom à 1785 - On CD-ROM to 1785



    --
    Richard van Schaik
    f.m.a.vanschaikREMOVE@THISgmail.com
    http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/
    The world is one big madhouse and this is main office.

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