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WASHINGTON — The plan was straightforward: After years of being
challenged by President Donald Trump and others about a decades-old
claim of Native American ancestry, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.,
would take a DNA test to prove her stated family origins in the
Cherokee and Delaware tribes.

But nearly two months after Warren released the test results and
drew hostile reactions from prominent tribal leaders, the lingering
cloud over her likely presidential campaign has only darkened.
Conservatives have continued to ridicule her. More worrisome to
supporters of Warren’s presidential ambitions, she has yet to allay
criticism from grassroots progressive groups, liberal political
operatives and other potential 2020 allies who complain that she put
too much emphasis on the controversial field of racial science —
and, in doing so, played into Trump’s hands.

Advisers close to Warren say she has privately expressed concern
that she may have damaged her relationships to Native American
groups and her own standing with progressive activists, particularly
those who are racial minorities. Several outside advisers are even
more worried: They say they believe a plan should be made to repair
that damage, possibly including a strong statement of apology.

The advisers say Warren will have to confront the issue again if she
announces a presidential campaign, which is expected in the coming
weeks, and several would like her to act soon.

Publicly, at this point, the senator is not second-guessing her
actions.

“There have been a lot of thoughtful conversations about this and I
appreciate that,” Warren said in an interview. “I believe for
everyone in public life that transparency is crucial.”

Asked if the criticism of the test has inspired any regret, Warren
said: “I put it out there. It’s on the internet for anybody to see.
People can make of it what they will. I’m going to continue fighting
on the issues that brought me to Washington.”

For some Warren allies and progressive groups, Warren’s standing by
the DNA test amounts to profoundly poor judgment. Some said she was
too reactive to Trump’s attacks — tests results would never silence
a president who often disregards facts, they said — and created a
distraction from her own trademark message of economic populism. The
president revels in repeatedly slurring Warren as “Pocahontas,” and conservative commentators like Howie Carr of the Boston Herald have
enjoyed holding the DNA issue over the senator’s head.

“The biggest risk in engaging a bully is that bullies don’t usually
stop, regardless of what the truth is,” said Charles Chamberlain,
executive director for the progressive political group Democracy for
America. Chamberlain’s group had, in 2014, launched a “Run Warren
Run” campaign to encourage her to seek the 2016 presidential
nomination.

“When you can’t win an argument,” he added, “then sometimes it’s not
worth having that argument.”

Warren’s allies also say she unintentionally made a bigger mistake
in treading too far into the fraught area of racial science — a
field that has, at times, been used to justify the subjugation of
racial minorities and Native Americans.

Racial justice advocates, keen to cast race as a socially
constructed issue with little biological grounding, said Warren’s
actions gave validity to the idea that race is determined by blood,
a bedrock principle for those who believe in racial hierarchies and
castes. Native American critics, including Kim TallBear, a prominent
scholar from the University of Alberta, said in October that
Warren’s actions relied on “settler-colonial” definitions of who is
an indigenous American and amounted to a haughty refusal to hear out
her long-standing critics.

This line of criticism has particularly stung Warren, who has made a
point to hold several private talks with Native leaders since taking
the DNA test, emphasizing her respect for tribal sovereignty and
making clear she does not claim tribal citizenship.

Three people close to senior members of Warren’s team, who were
granted anonymity to speak freely on the issue, said they were
“shocked” and “rattled” by the senator’s decision to take the DNA
test, which they described as an unequivocal misstep that could have
lasting consequences, even on 2020 staffing. One former adviser, who
also asked not to be named, called it a “strategic failure” that was “depressing and unforgettable.”

Jennifer Epps-Addison, co-director for the Center for Popular
Democracy, a progressive group that has previously been supportive
of Warren, said, “If she wants to be considered the leader of our
party or the leader of the progressive movement, she needs a
reconciliation.”

“And that reconciliation should center Native voices and make sure
that their stories of loss and theft of identity come front and
center, not, you know, one white woman’s tale of understanding her
DNA,” Epps-Addison said. The new chapter marks unfamiliar territory
for Warren, who has rarely, if ever, been so vocally criticized by
members of the progressive coalition. Some white progressives have
stumbled on issues of race and identity, but before the DNA test was
released, Warren had built a reservoir of goodwill among liberals on
these issues. She received praise for lending her national platform
to highlighting injustice against Native Americans recently and, in
one high-profile incident, she impressed social justice activists
when she refused to backtrack after calling the U.S. criminal
justice system “racist” from “front to back.”

Few think that this goodwill has completely disappeared, but the
last month has seen even individuals who had previously been bullish
on Warren’s potential candidacy reconsider their position. The
questioning comes from a place of disappointment, because many of
Warren’s backers believe she is better on issues of racial justice
and identity than her handling of this issue may imply.

“Democratic candidates have a long history of not striking back fast
enough when it comes to false narratives against them,” said Rebecca
Katz, the New York-based progressive strategist. “Warren should get
some credit for trying and pushing back hard, but we all have to be
wide-eyed when it comes to race.”

“Our 2020 candidates need to understand race and identity in a way
that tripped up candidates in 2016,” she said.

Progressive groups also lament that Warren kept the decision to take
the test so closely guarded. Several said that if a greater
diversity of stakeholders had been included in the conversation,
including progressives whom Warren often consults during policy
rollouts, much of the current fallout could have been avoided.

In interviews, several progressives wondered if Warren’s decision to
take the DNA test was indicative of a larger problem for several
prospective presidential candidates: that their inner circles of
advisers do not reflect the racial diversity of the Democratic
electorate.

“Race is a true third rail in American politics, and you can make a
lot of mistakes when we don’t have a diverse set of folks who are in
the room and empowered to make decisions,” said Eric Lundy, program
director of Inclusv, a group that pushes for more diversity in
political campaign staffs.

But as Warren inches closer to a presidential run, even critics of
her decision to take the DNA test believe she is well positioned to
shore up support. In the past week she has received heaps of praise
for a foreign policy speech at American University, and she remains
one of the party’s top fundraisers and surrogates.

Allies in Boston pointed out that, in Warren’s recent re-election
effort in Massachusetts, there was no evidence that the DNA
announcement hurt her standing among voters. Those close to Warren
also note they had several allies in the progressive and Native
American communities who supported their decision from the outset.

Deb Haaland, the newly elected House member from New Mexico who will
be one of the first Native American women to serve in Congress, said
she believed the senator was seeking to learn more about her past.
Other tribal leaders, including those from the Lenape Indian Tribe
in Delaware and the Eastern Band of Cherokee in North Carolina, have
also supported Warren’s decision. Warren’s DNA test, which was
conducted by renowned geneticist Carlos Bustamante and released by
her office, showed strong evidence that Warren has Native American
pedigree “6-10 generations ago.”

“I absolutely respect tribes’ authority to determine who are tribal
members,” Haaland said. “But I don’t think that’s what Elizabeth
Warren was doing. She was merely looking to find a connection to her
past and that’s exactly what she did.”

This is not a view universally shared. The Cherokee Nation declined
repeated requests for comment, but in a previous statement, tribal
leaders said Warren’s decision dishonored “legitimate tribal
governments and their citizens, whose ancestors are well documented
and whose heritage is proven.” Ian Haney López, the law and racial
justice professor at the University of California, Berkeley, said
Warren made a “naïve” error by not seeming to grasp the attack
strategy of conservatives. Just as Trump used his so-called
“birther” campaign to depict former President Barack Obama as a
foreign-born immigrant, Trump was not seeking to make a factual
claim against Warren but to brand her as an outsider, López said.

Twila Barnes, a Cherokee genealogist who has thoroughly tracked
Warren’s claims of native ancestry since it became national news in
2012, said her “jaw was on the floor” when she saw Warren’s decision
to take the DNA test and the slick video that accompanied the
announcement of the results.

Barnes said Warren had an opportunity to teach the broader public
about how genetic testing has historically been used as a weapon
against Native communities, but instead she “helped perpetuate a
very dangerous idea.”

It has pushed Barnes, a self-described liberal, to make something of
a personal pledge: She will never vote for Warren under any
circumstance, including in an election against Trump.

Not even an apology — at this point — would help.

“She’s had six years to apologize,” she said.

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On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 21:05:04 -0500, Ubiquitous says...

WASHINGTON - The plan was straightforward: After years of being
challenged by President Donald Trump and others about a decades-old
claim of Native American ancestry, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.,
would take a DNA test to prove her stated family origins in the
Cherokee and Delaware tribes.

Elizabeth Warren May Issue An Official Apology For Her 'Native American'
DNA Results

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is being widely criticized, Thursday, for
standing by questionable DNA results that show she's less than 1/1024
Native American, and she may be preparing to apologize for claiming the
test proved her claim to Native American ancestry.

In a New York Times report published Thursday (and digested here by Daily
Wire Editor-in-Chief Ben Shapiro), sources close to the senator revealed
that she is concerned her "proof" of Native American ancestry did more
harm than good, and that while she "stands by" the decision to release the results, those around her are privately concerned that she prematurely
ended her 2020 Presidential bid.

"[N]early two months after Ms. Warren released the test results and drew hostile reactions from prominent tribal leaders, the lingering cloud over
her likely presidential campaign has only darkened," the Times reports.
"[S]he has yet to allay criticism from grass-roots progressive groups,
liberal political operatives and other potential 2020 allies who complain
that she put too much emphasis on the controversial field of racial
science."

She now has two choices: defend her decision through the next two years, deflecting concerns that she's appropriating a culture for her own benefit
- a claim bolstered by her recent legislative slate, which includes
several attempts to help Native American tribes in Massachusetts obtain
casino licenses - or retract her earlier statements, doubling down on her "proof" of ancestry.

As she decides, one thing is clear: her advisers have chosen a path
forward for her. They want her to apologize.

"They say they believe a plan should be made to repair that damage,
possibly including a strong statement of apology," the Times reports. "The advisers say Ms. Warren will have to confront the issue again if she
announces a presidential campaign, which is expected in the coming weeks,
and several would like her to act soon."

Taking the test was always a risky maneuver for the Massachusetts
Democrat. Her previous claims to Native American ancestry hinged on age-
old racist stereotypes ("high cheekbones") and a cookbook titled "Pow Wow Chow," to which she contributed an undoubtedly ancient Cherokee recipe for tomato crab salad. While there's no proof she used her ancestry to gain employment in the Ivy League, the Ivy League certainly touted her
"ancestry," often counting her among Harvard's faculty "of color."

That makes her a fair target without the proof, and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-
CA), Warren's closest progressive competitor, had already declared that
she would call Warren on the carpet for her "minority" status. With the
proof, she's fair game for other reasons.

More than likely, Warren won't issue an apology. The plan for her campaign appears to be to insulate her from criticism from Native American groups,
using her work with the local Mashpee tribe as cover.

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"AlleyCat" wrote in message news:MPG.3673c622cec84b2d98ca66@news.eternal-september.org...

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 21:05:04 -0500, Ubiquitous says...

WASHINGTON - The plan was straightforward: After years of being
challenged by President Donald Trump and others about a decades-old claim
of Native American ancestry, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., would take a
DNA test to prove her stated family origins in the Cherokee and Delaware
tribes.

Elizabeth Warren May Issue An Official Apology For Her 'Native American'
DNA Results

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is being widely criticized, Thursday, for standing by questionable DNA results that show she's less than 1/1024
Native American, and she may be preparing to apologize for claiming the
test proved her claim to Native American ancestry.

In New York state, when the Mashantucket Pequots first won federal
recognition, critics complained that they were "too White". The criticism
grew louder after the Narragansett and Niantic were added to the rolls, as detractors declared the Mashantucket Pequots "too black" to be authentic Indians. Donald Trump grumbled on Don Imus's radio show that "I think I
might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations. They don't look like Indians to me, and don't look like Indians to Indians!" Imus wholeheartedly agreed, responding with "A couple of these Indians up in Connecticut look like Michael Jordan, frankly."

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On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 19:02:01 -0600, Byker says...

"AlleyCat" wrote in message news:MPG.3673c622cec84b2d98ca66@news.eternal-september.org...

On Wed, 05 Dec 2018 21:05:04 -0500, Ubiquitous says...

WASHINGTON - The plan was straightforward: After years of being
challenged by President Donald Trump and others about a decades-old claim >> of Native American ancestry, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., would take a >> DNA test to prove her stated family origins in the Cherokee and Delaware >> tribes.

Elizabeth Warren May Issue An Official Apology For Her 'Native American' DNA Results

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) is being widely criticized, Thursday, for standing by questionable DNA results that show she's less than 1/1024 Native American, and she may be preparing to apologize for claiming the test proved her claim to Native American ancestry.

In New York state, when the Mashantucket Pequots first won federal recognition, critics complained that they were "too White". The criticism grew louder after the Narragansett and Niantic were added to the rolls, as detractors declared the Mashantucket Pequots "too black" to be authentic Indians. Donald Trump grumbled on Don Imus's radio show that "I think I
might have more Indian blood than a lot of the so-called Indians that are trying to open up the reservations. They don't look like Indians to me, and don't look like Indians to Indians!" Imus wholeheartedly agreed, responding with "A couple of these Indians up in Connecticut look like Michael Jordan, frankly."

A LOT of Blacks laid down with squaws. Blacks have more "dominate genes"
than lighter-skinned people (brown eyes, curly hair, flatter noses, etc.),
so any offspring will continue to look more Negro than Indian, no matter
how much you dilute the breed.

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"AlleyCat" wrote in message news:MPG.367515e5f86b8ca598ca6d@news.eternal-september.org...

A LOT of Blacks laid down with squaws. Blacks have more "dominate genes"
than lighter-skinned people (brown eyes, curly hair, flatter noses, etc.),
so any offspring will continue to look more Negro than Indian, no matter
how much you dilute the breed.

Professor Andrew Hacker, in his book "Two Nations: Black and White,
Separate, Hostile, Unequal" (1992), commented on the "permanence" of African genes, noting that although a child born to a White parent and a Hispanic, Asian, or Indian parent will have racial features of each, and if that child marries another White, his/her offspring can "pass" for White. Not so when Afro genes enter the bloodline. A quadroon or octoroon is just a
light-skinned nigger. It takes umpteen generations to breed out the
baboon...

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Nations-Separate-Hostile-Unequal/dp/0743238249

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On 12/8/18 12:10 PM, Byker wrote:

"AlleyCat"  wrote in message news:MPG.367515e5f86b8ca598ca6d@news.eternal-september.org...

A LOT of Blacks laid down with squaws. Blacks have more "dominate genes"
than lighter-skinned people (brown eyes, curly hair, flatter noses,
etc.),
so any offspring will continue to look more Negro than Indian, no matter
how much you dilute the breed.

Professor Andrew Hacker, in his book "Two Nations: Black and White,
Separate, Hostile, Unequal" (1992), commented on the "permanence" of
African
genes, noting that although a child born to a White parent and a Hispanic, Asian, or Indian parent will have racial features of each, and if that
child
marries another White, his/her offspring can "pass" for White.  Not so when Afro genes enter the bloodline.  A quadroon or octoroon is just a light-skinned nigger.  It takes umpteen generations to breed out the baboon...

https://www.amazon.com/Two-Nations-Separate-Hostile-Unequal/dp/0743238249

Elizabeth Warren defrauded a lot of people by claiming to be NATIVE
AMERICAN and they missed out on the opportunities that she lied and took
from them.

She should be paying reparations to the real NATIVE AMERICANS that she
kept from getting into schools and jobs and to the blacks and the whites.

I dare say Elizabeth Warren violated the CIVIL RIGHTS OF MORE PEOPLE
than most any other person I can think of.

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