Today's Topics:
2. Irish origins in the Caribbean (Rod O'Donoghue)
3. Re: Irish origins in the Caribbean (Jim Lynch)
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Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:36:26 +0000
From: "Rod O'Donoghue" <rod@odonoghue.co.uk>
To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com>
Subject: [Carib] Irish origins in the Caribbean
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Do you have an Irish name? Do you know how your family got it? Do
you know on which islands your family lived in the past? Do you know
any folktales about Irish-named people?
I would like to start a thread on this subject. I have done a lot of research on my own surname (and its variants) and the Irish in general
in the Caribbean.
If you are not sure if your name is of Irish origin please ask me. Iwill
endeavour to answer any questions people may have on the Irishstuff myself.
influence on Caribbean history and life, and I hope to learn a lot of new
Looking forward to hearing from anyone interested in this subject
Cheers
Rod O'Donoghue
Author of 'Heroic Landscapes: Irish Myth and Legend' and 'O'Donoghue
People and Places'
Founder of The O'Donoghue Society and The Irish Folklore Centre
<https://www.odonoghue.co.uk> https://www.odonoghue.co.uk
Email: <mailto:rod@odonoghue.co.uk> rod@odonoghue.co.uk
Family history: https://ballyduffodonoghue.blogspot.co.uk/
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:17:54 -0500
From: Jim Lynch <jimlynch@caribbeanavenue.com>
To: <rod@odonoghue.co.uk>, <caribbean@rootsweb.com>
Subject: Re: [Carib] Irish origins in the Caribbean
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My research is blocked by a "brick wall" - from a complete and utter
lack of records of the day.
BUT, when I researched the Lynch family name in the Caribbean I did
not encounter the dastardy Sir Thomas as a possible relative but
another Irish merchant Lynch family in Jamaica who, upon becoming
successful beyond their wildest dreams, had kin streaming out of
Ireland to share the wealth.
This other Jamaica Lynch family could not have been related to Sir
Thomas. At the time the Irish were not trusted, and were considered sub-human, by the English - would never have been allowed at the Royal
Court, far less receive a Royal Appointment to either knighthood or
Governor of Jamaica, as Sir Thomas became.
When the overflow became too much to support, some were told to seek
their fortunes elsewhere, and I discovered that a contingent went to Barbados, where they, too, were successful.
My "brick wall" is Hamlet Mayers Lynch, a free mulatto b.ca.1769
d.1852, who started a family with a free negro woman named Minifred or Menifred (both of her names are documented).
Apart from the baptisms with her named as the mother, no other BCBMDB
(Birth, Christening, Baptism, Marriage, Death, Burial) records for
Barbados (that I can find) contain any references whatsoever to either individual. Minifred just disappeared, there is a note somewhere that
Hamlet was buried "in St. Stephens Chapel", but there is no trace of
him anywhere at that church.
I call them the "spaceship" relatives, since they just appeared,
started the family, and then eventually just disappeared without
trace. There are records of Hamlet's activities - slave ownership,
property purchases, and I also have his will, but no official records
of primary events.
There are several new Hamlet Lynch baptisms around the same time -
such as Hamlet Fairchild Lynch in 1776/7 - with negro woman as
mothers, those with a Hassel/Hasel/Hazel Lynch as father. Hassel Lynch
was third or fourth generation from the Jamaica Lynch Irish merchant
arrivals I referred to.
I do know there was a Nicholas Lynch who in Hottens was referenced as
taking a Barque to nevis as a servant of Codrington, but I cannot find
any link between him and the Jamaica Lynch family.
BTW, I am in contact with three living direct descendants of that
Jamaica Lynch family, and the one who did the DNA test appears to be
related somehow - although I cannot afford to have an expert examine
the evidence.
I have no documented proof of anything, so I make no claims.
If you are not aware of it, I created the Caribbean Surname Index as a long-term "set and forget" resource for luring possible family members
into making contact. This sounds like a reasonable subject for
circulation to my 1800+ users for discussion and response.
Registration and use by searchers and researchers alike is free, and
because I permit no SPAM or advertising I administrate it manually - registration is manual and I monitor all Posts daily to keep it squeaky
http://www.candoo.com/surnames/index.php
Best wishes,
Jim Lynch
--
Do you have an Irish name? Do you know how your family got it? Do
you know on which islands your family lived in the past? Do you know
any folktales about Irish-named people?
I would like to start a thread on this subject. I have done a lot of research on my own surname (and its variants) and the Irish in general
in the Caribbean.
If you are not sure if your name is of Irish origin please ask me. I
will
endeavour to answer any questions people may have on the Irish
influence on Caribbean history and life, and I hope to learn a lot of
new stuff myself.
Looking forward to hearing from anyone interested in this subject
Cheers
Rod O'Donoghue
Author of 'Heroic Landscapes: Irish Myth and Legend' and 'O'Donoghue
People and Places'
Founder of The O'Donoghue Society and The Irish Folklore Centre
<https://www.odonoghue.co.uk> https://www.odonoghue.co.uk
Email: <mailto:rod@odonoghue.co.uk> rod@odonoghue.co.uk
Family history: https://ballyduffodonoghue.blogspot.co.uk/
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2. Irish origins in the Caribbean (RodO'Donoghue)
3. Re: Irish origins in the Caribbean (JimLynch)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:36:26 +0000
From: "Rod O'Donoghue" <rod@odonoghue.co.uk>
To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com>
Subject: [Carib] Irish origins in the Caribbean
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"family got it? Do
Do you have an Irish name? Do you know how your
you know on which islands your family lived inthe past? Do you know
any folktales about Irish-named people?
I would like to start a thread on this subject.I have done a lot of
research on my own surname (and its variants)and the Irish in general
in the Caribbean.
If you are not sure if your name is of Irishorigin please ask me. I
endeavour to answer any questions people mayhave on the Irish
influence on Caribbean history and life, and Ihope to learn a lot of
newstuff myself.
Looking forward to hearing from anyoneinterested in this subject
Cheers
Rod O'DonoghueLegend' and 'O'Donoghue
Author of 'Heroic Landscapes: Irish Myth and
People and Places'Folklore Centre
Founder of The O'Donoghue Society and The Irish
<https://www.odonoghue.co.uk>https://www.odonoghue.co.uk
Email: <mailto:rod@odonoghue.co.uk>rod@odonoghue.co.uk
Family history:https://ballyduffodonoghue.blogspot.co.uk/
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:17:54 -0500
From: Jim Lynch <jimlynch@caribbeanavenue.com>
To: <rod@odonoghue.co.uk>,
Subject: Re: [Carib] Irish origins in theCaribbean
Message-ID:<f8254cda699966bc1ed31ea6aa2c309d@caribbeanavenue.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII";format=flowed
My research is blocked by a "brick wall" - froma complete and utter
lack of records of the day.the Caribbean I did
BUT, when I researched the Lynch family name in
not encounter the dastardy Sir Thomas as apossible relative but
another Irish merchant Lynch family in Jamaicawho, upon becoming
successful beyond their wildest dreams, had kinstreaming out of
Ireland to share the wealth.been related to Sir
This other Jamaica Lynch family could not have
Thomas. At the time the Irish were not trusted,and were considered
sub-human, by the English - would never havebeen allowed at the Royal
Court, far less receive a Royal Appointment toeither knighthood or
Governor of Jamaica, as Sir Thomas became.some were told to seek
When the overflow became too much to support,
their fortunes elsewhere, and I discovered thata contingent went to
Barbados, where they, too, were successful.mulatto b.ca.1769
My "brick wall" is Hamlet Mayers Lynch, a free
d.1852, who started a family with a free negrowoman named Minifred or
Menifred (both of her names are documented).mother, no other BCBMDB
Apart from the baptisms with her named as the
(Birth, Christening, Baptism, Marriage, Death,Burial) records for
Barbados (that I can find) contain anyreferences whatsoever to either
individual. Minifred just disappeared, there isa note somewhere that
Hamlet was buried "in St. Stephens Chapel", butthere is no trace of
him anywhere at that church.they just appeared,
I call them the "spaceship" relatives, since
started the family, and then eventually justdisappeared without
trace. There are records of Hamlet's activities- slave ownership,
property purchases, and I also have his will,but no official records
of primary events.around the same time -
There are several new Hamlet Lynch baptisms
such as Hamlet Fairchild Lynch in 1776/7 - withnegro woman as
mothers, those with a Hassel/Hasel/Hazel Lynchas father. Hassel Lynch
was third or fourth generation from the JamaicaLynch Irish merchant
arrivals I referred to.Hottens was referenced as
I do know there was a Nicholas Lynch who in
taking a Barque to nevis as a servant ofCodrington, but I cannot find
any link between him and the Jamaica Lynchfamily.
BTW, I am in contact with three living directdescendants of that
Jamaica Lynch family, and the one who did theDNA test appears to be
related somehow - although I cannot afford tohave an expert examine
the evidence.make no claims.
I have no documented proof of anything, so I
If you are not aware of it, I created theCaribbean Surname Index as a
long-term "set and forget" resource for luringpossible family members
into making contact. This sounds like areasonable subject for
circulation to my 1800+ users for discussion andresponse.
Registration and use by searchers andresearchers alike is free, and
because I permit no SPAM or advertising Iadministrate it manually -
registration is manual and I monitor all Postsdaily to keep it
squeakyclean.
http://www.candoo.com/surnames/index.php
Best wishes,
Jim Lynch
--
Do you have an Irish name? Do you know how yourfamily got it? Do
you know on which islands your family lived inthe past? Do you know
any folktales about Irish-named people?
I would like to start a thread on this subject.I have done a lot of
research on my own surname (and its variants)and the Irish in general
in the Caribbean.
If you are not sure if your name is of Irishorigin please ask me. I
willhave on the Irish
endeavour to answer any questions people may
influence on Caribbean history and life, and Ihope to learn a lot of
new stuff myself.
Looking forward to hearing from anyoneinterested in this subject
Cheers
Rod O'DonoghueLegend' and 'O'Donoghue
Author of 'Heroic Landscapes: Irish Myth and
People and Places'Folklore Centre
Founder of The O'Donoghue Society and The Irish
<https://www.odonoghue.co.uk>https://www.odonoghue.co.uk
Email: <mailto:rod@odonoghue.co.uk>rod@odonoghue.co.uk
Family history:https://ballyduffodonoghue.blogspot.co.uk/
***************************Historic Antigua and
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Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/email to
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2. Irish origins in the Caribbean (RodO'Donoghue)
3. Re: Irish origins in the Caribbean (JimLynch)
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:36:26 +0000
From: "Rod O'Donoghue" <rod@odonoghue.co.uk>
To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com>
Subject: [Carib] Irish origins in the Caribbean
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"family got it? Do
Do you have an Irish name? Do you know how your
you know on which islands your family lived inthe past? Do you know
any folktales about Irish-named people?
I would like to start a thread on this subject.I have done a lot of
research on my own surname (and its variants)and the Irish in general
in the Caribbean.
If you are not sure if your name is of Irishorigin please ask me. I
endeavour to answer any questions people mayhave on the Irish
influence on Caribbean history and life, and Ihope to learn a lot of
newstuff myself.
Looking forward to hearing from anyoneinterested in this subject
Cheers
Rod O'DonoghueLegend' and 'O'Donoghue
Author of 'Heroic Landscapes: Irish Myth and
People and Places'Folklore Centre
Founder of The O'Donoghue Society and The Irish
<https://www.odonoghue.co.uk>https://www.odonoghue.co.uk
Email: <mailto:rod@odonoghue.co.uk>rod@odonoghue.co.uk
Family history:https://ballyduffodonoghue.blogspot.co.uk/
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:17:54 -0500
From: Jim Lynch <jimlynch@caribbeanavenue.com>
To: <rod@odonoghue.co.uk>,
Subject: Re: [Carib] Irish origins in theCaribbean
Message-ID:<f8254cda699966bc1ed31ea6aa2c309d@caribbeanavenue.
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII";format=flowed
My research is blocked by a "brick wall" - froma complete and utter
lack of records of the day.the Caribbean I did
BUT, when I researched the Lynch family name in
not encounter the dastardy Sir Thomas as apossible relative but
another Irish merchant Lynch family in Jamaicawho, upon becoming
successful beyond their wildest dreams, had kinstreaming out of
Ireland to share the wealth.been related to Sir
This other Jamaica Lynch family could not have
Thomas. At the time the Irish were not trusted,and were considered
sub-human, by the English - would never havebeen allowed at the Royal
Court, far less receive a Royal Appointment toeither knighthood or
Governor of Jamaica, as Sir Thomas became.some were told to seek
When the overflow became too much to support,
their fortunes elsewhere, and I discovered thata contingent went to
Barbados, where they, too, were successful.mulatto b.ca.1769
My "brick wall" is Hamlet Mayers Lynch, a free
d.1852, who started a family with a free negrowoman named Minifred or
Menifred (both of her names are documented).mother, no other BCBMDB
Apart from the baptisms with her named as the
(Birth, Christening, Baptism, Marriage, Death,Burial) records for
Barbados (that I can find) contain anyreferences whatsoever to either
individual. Minifred just disappeared, there isa note somewhere that
Hamlet was buried "in St. Stephens Chapel", butthere is no trace of
him anywhere at that church.they just appeared,
I call them the "spaceship" relatives, since
started the family, and then eventually justdisappeared without
trace. There are records of Hamlet's activities- slave ownership,
property purchases, and I also have his will,but no official records
of primary events.around the same time -
There are several new Hamlet Lynch baptisms
such as Hamlet Fairchild Lynch in 1776/7 - withnegro woman as
mothers, those with a Hassel/Hasel/Hazel Lynchas father. Hassel Lynch
was third or fourth generation from the JamaicaLynch Irish merchant
arrivals I referred to.Hottens was referenced as
I do know there was a Nicholas Lynch who in
taking a Barque to nevis as a servant ofCodrington, but I cannot find
any link between him and the Jamaica Lynchfamily.
BTW, I am in contact with three living directdescendants of that
Jamaica Lynch family, and the one who did theDNA test appears to be
related somehow - although I cannot afford tohave an expert examine
the evidence.make no claims.
I have no documented proof of anything, so I
If you are not aware of it, I created theCaribbean Surname Index as a
long-term "set and forget" resource for luringpossible family members
into making contact. This sounds like areasonable subject for
circulation to my 1800+ users for discussion andresponse.
Registration and use by searchers andresearchers alike is free, and
because I permit no SPAM or advertising Iadministrate it manually -
registration is manual and I monitor all Postsdaily to keep it
squeakyclean.
http://www.candoo.com/surnames/index.php
Best wishes,
Jim Lynch
--
Do you have an Irish name? Do you know how yourfamily got it? Do
you know on which islands your family lived inthe past? Do you know
any folktales about Irish-named people?
I would like to start a thread on this subject.I have done a lot of
research on my own surname (and its variants)and the Irish in general
in the Caribbean.
If you are not sure if your name is of Irishorigin please ask me. I
willhave on the Irish
endeavour to answer any questions people may
influence on Caribbean history and life, and Ihope to learn a lot of
new stuff myself.
Looking forward to hearing from anyoneinterested in this subject
Cheers
Rod O'DonoghueLegend' and 'O'Donoghue
Author of 'Heroic Landscapes: Irish Myth and
People and Places'Folklore Centre
Founder of The O'Donoghue Society and The Irish
<https://www.odonoghue.co.uk>https://www.odonoghue.co.uk
Email: <mailto:rod@odonoghue.co.uk>rod@odonoghue.co.uk
Family history:https://ballyduffodonoghue.blogspot.co.uk/
***************************Historic Antigua and
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Barbuda http://www.rootsweb.com/~atgwgw/email to
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