• [Carib] CARIBBEAN Digest, Vol 12, Issue 72; Irish Origins in Caribb

    From Jack Fallin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 13 13:04:18 2017
    Dear Rod and Jim,

    It’s only so often that someone breaks loose a topic here that pulls me in, but this one has.

    My first recorded immigrant in America was Charles (I) Fallin [the spelling didn’t fully settle down until the next generation] who purchased property in Northumberland County, VA in 1671.

    My potential Caribbean leads include:


    Letter written at Walham [Waltham] Abbey 12th Oct. 1641 from James, 2nd Earl of Carlisle to Gov. [Henry] Ashton of Barbados:
    [Postscript] "there is one Dan’l Fallan of Monserrat with 3 others (wherof Fallan his wife hath addressed her self by peticon here unto me) who along tyme hath stood under Govnor Brisket's censure for a consperacy of Capt. Ayleworth, wch busines I have
    advise[d] Mr. Brisket to end him selfe without further trouble. But if not I do pray & authorize yor selfe to take cognizance hereof upon any of the p’ties addresses to you & to pray Mr Birket & all the p’ty to declare the truth & state of these
    matters unto you and that you end or order the same betwixt them sch. If not observed then that you would certifye me I have written to this purpose to Mr. Brisket doubting some practize agt. Fallon whom I would willingly have repayred yf you finde cause
    in all p'ticulars of his censure I pray informe yor self well herein."

    2. 1655, MONTSERRAT

    February 7, 1655. Mentions a planter named Daniel Fallon of Montserrat as purchasing goods in 1643, for which money is still owed.

    Peter Wilson Coldham, The Complete Book of Emigrants, Vol. 1, 1607-1660, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore. (1987), p. 284. Oliver ed., Caribbeana, Mitchell Hughes & Clark, London (1914), Vol III, p. 319.

    3. 1662, BARBADOS:

    “Barbados Wills …

    Fellon, William …"

    Oliver, Caribbeana, Vol IV, Mitchell Hughes and Clark, London (1916), p. 219.


    “FELLON, William RB6/15, p. 211

    Dep, 4 Nov 1662, John Danyell, age 45; About 10 days before William Fellon died he came to Walter Poore. Being very sick, he bequeathed to his wf & chn & his kinsm Dennis Fellon”

    Sanders, Wills & Administratons, Vol I. (1639-1680), p. 211. e-Correspondence from Ernest Wiltshire 11/26/2016.

    1680, BARBADOS:

    St. Andrews Parish:

    ANDREW FALLIN [and] 1 Negro

    ANDREW FOLLYN [and] 1 Negro [with] 26 Acres.

    Also lists 1 Christening (of ANDREW) and 1 Burial.

    Hotten, The Original Lists of Persons of Quality etc., Hotten, London (1874), pp. 470, 471. NOTE: These two names likely refer to the same person and they correspond to the Andrew Follin whose will was later probated in 1694.

    It appears that you have both run down more sources than I’ve been able to find, so I will definitely take a look at your separate sites.

    I have gone fully down the DNA road (FTDNA - STRs, 67 and-111marker; - SNPs, Big Y & YFull; 23and Me (standard combination) - YDNA SNPs, autosomal, mitochondrial).

    The Y DNA analysis has established my gaelic family as Ó Faoláin (most commonly Anglicized as Phelan or Whalen). The Ó Faoláin controlled an area slightly larger than today’s County Waterford [except for the City itself, which was Viking] until
    being pushed aside by Norman invaders in 1170 AD. The family is not the same as “Fallon,” whose gaelic version was Fallamhain with a territory largely confined to the part of County Roscommon lying between the cities of Athlone (Westmeath)and Galway

    Jim, you need to be aware that 23andMe has changed their formatting and no longer use the older “R1b.. etc.” format. My original haplogroup there was R1b1b2a1a2f* — now it’s the far more easily recognized “R-L21.” 23andMe’s SNP YDNA
    testing stops way short of FTDNA's Big Y analysis. For instance, my current terminal haplogroup, BY11097, is nine levels below R-L21 and hits a time estimate to last common ancestor for three of us that’s only about a hundred years back of Charles (I)
    Fallin’s time.

    Jack Fallin
    Walnut Creek, CA

    Today's Topics:

    2. Irish origins in the Caribbean (Rod O'Donoghue)
    3. Re: Irish origins in the Caribbean (Jim Lynch)



    Message: 2
    Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:36:26 +0000
    From: "Rod O'Donoghue" <rod@odonoghue.co.uk>
    To: <caribbean@rootsweb.com>
    Subject: [Carib] Irish origins in the Caribbean
    Message-ID: <000501d37378$1eaa1890$5bfe49b0$@odonoghue.co.uk>
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    Do you have an Irish name? Do you know how your family got it? Do you know on which islands your family lived in the past? Do you know any folktales about Irish-named people?

    I would like to start a thread on this subject. I have done a lot of research on my own surname (and its variants) and the Irish in general in
    the Caribbean.

    If you are not sure if your name is of Irish origin please ask me. I will endeavour to answer any questions people may have on the Irish influence on Caribbean history and life, and I hope to learn a lot of new stuff myself.

    Looking forward to hearing from anyone interested in this subject


    Rod O'Donoghue

    Author of 'Heroic Landscapes: Irish Myth and Legend' and 'O'Donoghue People and Places'

    Founder of The O'Donoghue Society and The Irish Folklore Centre

    <https://www.odonoghue.co.uk> https://www.odonoghue.co.uk

    Email: <mailto:rod@odonoghue.co.uk> rod@odonoghue.co.uk

    Family history: https://ballyduffodonoghue.blogspot.co.uk/


    Message: 3
    Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 14:17:54 -0500
    From: Jim Lynch <jimlynch@caribbeanavenue.com>
    To: <rod@odonoghue.co.uk>, <caribbean@rootsweb.com>
    Subject: Re: [Carib] Irish origins in the Caribbean
    Message-ID: <f8254cda699966bc1ed31ea6aa2c309d@caribbeanavenue.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format=flowed

    My research is blocked by a "brick wall" - from a complete and utter
    lack of records of the day.

    BUT, when I researched the Lynch family name in the Caribbean I did not encounter the dastardy Sir Thomas as a possible relative but another
    Irish merchant Lynch family in Jamaica who, upon becoming successful
    beyond their wildest dreams, had kin streaming out of Ireland to share
    the wealth.

    This other Jamaica Lynch family could not have been related to Sir
    Thomas. At the time the Irish were not trusted, and were considered sub-human, by the English - would never have been allowed at the Royal Court, far less receive a Royal Appointment to either knighthood or
    Governor of Jamaica, as Sir Thomas became.

    When the overflow became too much to support, some were told to seek
    their fortunes elsewhere, and I discovered that a contingent went to Barbados, where they, too, were successful.

    My "brick wall" is Hamlet Mayers Lynch, a free mulatto b.ca.1769 d.1852,
    who started a family with a free negro woman named Minifred or Menifred (both of her names are documented).

    Apart from the baptisms with her named as the mother, no other BCBMDB (Birth, Christening, Baptism, Marriage, Death, Burial) records for
    Barbados (that I can find) contain any references whatsoever to either individual. Minifred just disappeared, there is a note somewhere that
    Hamlet was buried "in St. Stephens Chapel", but there is no trace of him anywhere at that church.

    I call them the "spaceship" relatives, since they just appeared, started
    the family, and then eventually just disappeared without trace. There
    are records of Hamlet's activities - slave ownership, property
    purchases, and I also have his will, but no official records of primary events.

    There are several new Hamlet Lynch baptisms around the same time - such
    as Hamlet Fairchild Lynch in 1776/7 - with negro woman as mothers, those with a Hassel/Hasel/Hazel Lynch as father. Hassel Lynch was third or
    fourth generation from the Jamaica Lynch Irish merchant arrivals I
    referred to.

    I do know there was a Nicholas Lynch who in Hottens was referenced as
    taking a Barque to nevis as a servant of Codrington, but I cannot find
    any link between him and the Jamaica Lynch family.

    BTW, I am in contact with three living direct descendants of that
    Jamaica Lynch family, and the one who did the DNA test appears to be
    related somehow - although I cannot afford to have an expert examine the evidence.

    I have no documented proof of anything, so I make no claims.

    If you are not aware of it, I created the Caribbean Surname Index as a long-term "set and forget" resource for luring possible family members
    into making contact. This sounds like a reasonable subject for
    circulation to my 1800+ users for discussion and response. Registration
    and use by searchers and researchers alike is free, and because I permit
    no SPAM or advertising I administrate it manually - registration is
    manual and I monitor all Posts daily to keep it squeaky clean. http://www.candoo.com/surnames/index.php

    Best wishes,

    Jim Lynch


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