• This RTS link will be 4 km between Johor and Singapore estimated to cos

    From rover@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 31 21:37:54 2018
    This RTS link between Johor and Singapore is estimated to cost RM 4 billion
    ( S$1.34 billion) crossing the 1 km (1.5 miles) Johor straits via a purposed-built 25 m high bridge, which was mentioned in the news link
    mentioned below.

    It will be a straight line bridge and not of a looped-curve-line bridge that was originally designed to enable the sloped rise to an elevated height to a
    30 m high bridge at above sea level when the bridge crosses the Johor
    straits.

    The original looped-curved design bridge was changed to a straight line
    bridge after the Johor sultan's commented of its extra costs and longer distances and its impracticality of the "curve", as stated in the link
    below.


    However, given that the bridge will cost S$1.3 billion to build - which very expensive for a 4 Km rail for a high-bridge of 25 m above sea level, it is
    even wiser to keep the bridge to even to a higher level - maybe from 25 m to
    35 m above sea level.

    This is to enable that in the future where very tall oil rigs and big ships have to be built and repair services in Sembawang shipyard and Keppel
    shipyard, which will still be located there, can still do their businesses
    and not affected from it, at all.


    This "future enabler" of "future need" has to be planned and forecasted
    ahead for future needs. This means Singapore had to "think and prepare"
    ahead beyond its present needs of businesses at these locations of business facilities there.

    The demand for oil rigs and ship services can be up and down and will still
    be needed for new built and replacements in the future, too. The market experiences for Singapore in building oil rigs and ships repair services
    will remain so.


    Also, a high bridge is a "fixed asset" where in the "potential future needs
    to build", the existing causeway may have to be removed when it aged "shelf life" and "limits of capacity" cannot cope with the high volume of trucks coming to Singapore to supply goods and foods to its potential population growth to 10 million people.

    The heavy vehicular movements stresses on the causeway. The vehicular
    traffic can be very heavy due to meet the foods demand in the projected 10 million population. The heavy traffic jams and congestions of heavy trucks
    and heavy cold-container trucks will be crossing at the causeway at daily at 24/7.


    To make this newly proposed RTS rail bridge of 4 km long into a tourist attraction, it should then be re-designed in a iconic way where it can give
    a "similar high attraction rating" with a spectacular designs like the 1.7
    km long of the iconic Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.

    Even though the length of the Golden Gate Bridge is only 1.7 km long at 67 m high above sea level, it is considered "short" bridge. This comparison is
    based on the present standard of very long bridges that were already built
    in the world. However, this Golden Gate Bridge is still the best bridge that
    is still well known to the world.

    Till this day, millions of tourists have gone there to sightseeing of the golden bridge. It is part of their standard package of tour visits in their tour itinerary to have a "must-see" in San Francisco, California, USA.


    To make "tourist money", Singapore and Johor, too, can also do like-wise
    with a magnificent design of a 35 to 40 m high-bridge at above sea level for tourist to take a lift up to the top of bridge for a walk and a view of the straits in the middle of two countries - Singapore and Malaysia, Johor.

    Since the cost of the high bridge is already very expensive at RM 4 billion,
    it might better off in building even higher bridge with a 4-tier level
    designs from above 30 metre sea level instead.

    For instance, at the lowest level is for heavy trucks and big buses and slow coaches, the 2nd level can be for train MRT rail line, and the 3rd level is
    for cars, motorcycles, and 4th level is for small electric personal mobiles like E-scooters, bicycles and electric cycles and unicycles, disabled people
    on wheelchairs, and for tourists and pedestrians to take a walk and stroll along the 1 km wide water straits.

    At every level, an efficient exhaust system to expel carbon monoxide
    pollution from vehicles have to be effective to ensure the people like pedestrians and tourist at the 4th tiered level are not suffered from
    vehicle fume inhalations.

    Public and private bus services can also be provided along the 4th-level
    road for the pedestrians and sightseeing tourists to board and alight
    anywhere between Singapore and Johor. They can also take from a number comfortable lifts provided from the ground level to the top level for them
    to expedite their trip visits. Every facility has to be meet the speedy
    service expectations of the "customers need".

    To rise the slope to these high levels is to have above 4-tiered road
    bridges, like the one found in 2-tiered Keppel Road - Ayer Rajah expressway
    to Tuas highway, that can be built along the north coast of Singapore and Johor coast as well, such that the road is sloped gradually to the maximum height of 30 m of the bridge for their crossing the straits.

    Hope this high 4-tiered bridge will prepare Singapore to meet its future
    needs of higher growth population size, high vehicular traffic size, and
    higher foods transportation needs between Singapore and Johor through the present two causeways. Bearing in mind that "height" maximises the usage of land for Singapore.

    Finally, if such 3-tiered designs are not practical and costs are
    prohibitive, a deep undersea tunnel for them is the best solution. It can be built like what the English-French JV undersea road and rail channel, and
    the undersea road and rail between southern and northern islands of Japan.



    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-to-continue-with-jb-spore-rts-link-but-looking-at-ways-to-reduce-costs

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-malaysia-ink-bilateral-agreement-to-build-rts-link-by-2024

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/singapore-and-malaysia-rail-operators-to-jointly-run-rapid-transit-system-link

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/taking-a-step-forward-in-building-johor-baru-singapore-rapid-transit-system-link

    https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/transport/sultan-of-johor-questions-design-of-singapore-johor-rapid-transit-system

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  • From rover@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 31 21:50:39 2018
    Additional links.

    Singapore-JB Rapid Transit System to be linked via high bridge over Straits
    of Johor

    Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/singapore-jb-rapid-transit-system-to-be-linked-via-high-bridge-o-7633244




    "rover" wrote in message news:peotqu$eql$1@dont-email.me...

    This RTS link between Johor and Singapore is estimated to cost RM 4 billion
    ( S$1.34 billion) crossing the 1 km (1.5 miles) Johor straits via a purposed-built 25 m high bridge, which was mentioned in the news link
    mentioned below.

    It will be a straight line bridge and not of a looped-curve-line bridge that was originally designed to enable the sloped rise to an elevated height to a
    30 m high bridge at above sea level when the bridge crosses the Johor
    straits.

    The original looped-curved design bridge was changed to a straight line
    bridge after the Johor sultan's commented of its extra costs and longer distances and its impracticality of the "curve", as stated in the link
    below.


    However, given that the bridge will cost S$1.3 billion to build - which very expensive for a 4 Km rail for a high-bridge of 25 m above sea level, it is
    even wiser to keep the bridge to even to a higher level - maybe from 25 m to
    35 m above sea level.

    This is to enable that in the future where very tall oil rigs and big ships have to be built and repair services in Sembawang shipyard and Keppel
    shipyard, which will still be located there, can still do their businesses
    and not affected from it, at all.


    This "future enabler" of "future need" has to be planned and forecasted
    ahead for future needs. This means Singapore had to "think and prepare"
    ahead beyond its present needs of businesses at these locations of business facilities there.

    The demand for oil rigs and ship services can be up and down and will still
    be needed for new built and replacements in the future, too. The market experiences for Singapore in building oil rigs and ships repair services
    will remain so.


    Also, a high bridge is a "fixed asset" where in the "potential future needs
    to build", the existing causeway may have to be removed when it aged "shelf life" and "limits of capacity" cannot cope with the high volume of trucks coming to Singapore to supply goods and foods to its potential population growth to 10 million people.

    The heavy vehicular movements stresses on the causeway. The vehicular
    traffic can be very heavy due to meet the foods demand in the projected 10 million population. The heavy traffic jams and congestions of heavy trucks
    and heavy cold-container trucks will be crossing at the causeway at daily at 24/7.


    To make this newly proposed RTS rail bridge of 4 km long into a tourist attraction, it should then be re-designed in a iconic way where it can give
    a "similar high attraction rating" with a spectacular designs like the 1.7
    km long of the iconic Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.

    Even though the length of the Golden Gate Bridge is only 1.7 km long at 67 m high above sea level, it is considered "short" bridge. This comparison is
    based on the present standard of very long bridges that were already built
    in the world. However, this Golden Gate Bridge is still the best bridge that
    is still well known to the world.

    Till this day, millions of tourists have gone there to sightseeing of the golden bridge. It is part of their standard package of tour visits in their tour itinerary to have a "must-see" in San Francisco, California, USA.


    To make "tourist money", Singapore and Johor, too, can also do like-wise
    with a magnificent design of a 35 to 40 m high-bridge at above sea level for tourist to take a lift up to the top of bridge for a walk and a view of the straits in the middle of two countries - Singapore and Malaysia, Johor.

    Since the cost of the high bridge is already very expensive at RM 4 billion,
    it might better off in building even higher bridge with a 4-tier level
    designs from above 30 metre sea level instead.

    For instance, at the lowest level is for heavy trucks and big buses and slow coaches, the 2nd level can be for train MRT rail line, and the 3rd level is
    for cars, motorcycles, and 4th level is for small electric personal mobiles like E-scooters, bicycles and electric cycles and unicycles, disabled people
    on wheelchairs, and for tourists and pedestrians to take a walk and stroll along the 1 km wide water straits.

    At every level, an efficient exhaust system to expel carbon monoxide
    pollution from vehicles have to be effective to ensure the people like pedestrians and tourist at the 4th tiered level are not suffered from
    vehicle fume inhalations.

    Public and private bus services can also be provided along the 4th-level
    road for the pedestrians and sightseeing tourists to board and alight
    anywhere between Singapore and Johor. They can also take from a number comfortable lifts provided from the ground level to the top level for them
    to expedite their trip visits. Every facility has to be meet the speedy
    service expectations of the "customers need".

    To rise the slope to these high levels is to have above 4-tiered road
    bridges, like the one found in 2-tiered Keppel Road - Ayer Rajah expressway
    to Tuas highway, that can be built along the north coast of Singapore and Johor coast as well, such that the road is sloped gradually to the maximum height of 30 m of the bridge for their crossing the straits.

    Hope this high 4-tiered bridge will prepare Singapore to meet its future
    needs of higher growth population size, high vehicular traffic size, and
    higher foods transportation needs between Singapore and Johor through the present two causeways. Bearing in mind that "height" maximises the usage of land for Singapore.

    Finally, if such 3-tiered designs are not practical and costs are
    prohibitive, a deep undersea tunnel for them is the best solution. It can be built like what the English-French JV undersea road and rail channel, and
    the undersea road and rail between southern and northern islands of Japan.



    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-to-continue-with-jb-spore-rts-link-but-looking-at-ways-to-reduce-costs

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-malaysia-ink-bilateral-agreement-to-build-rts-link-by-2024

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/singapore-and-malaysia-rail-operators-to-jointly-run-rapid-transit-system-link

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/taking-a-step-forward-in-building-johor-baru-singapore-rapid-transit-system-link

    https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/transport/sultan-of-johor-questions-design-of-singapore-johor-rapid-transit-system

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