• Hovhannes Katchaznou's "Dashnagtzoutiun Has Nothing To Do Anymore" Rapo

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    The first Prime Minister of Armenia Hovhannes Katchaznou's report "Dashnagtzoutiun Has Nothing To Do Anymore" which he submitted to the 1923 Party Convention, published in Armenian language in 1923 in Vienna, translated into Turkish before 1950.

    Hovhannes Katchaznou's report was translated into Russian four years later and an edition of only 2000 copies was published in Tbilisi in 1927. All the copies of the report in all languages were collected from European librariesby by Dashnags, and banned
    in Armenia.

    The English edition of the book was published in 1955 with the title "The Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsoution) Has Nothing To Do Any More by the “Armenian Information Service” in New York.

    Dr. Mehmet Bora Perinçek, a Turkish historian, political scientist, and professor, discovered the Russian edition of the report in Lenin Library in Moscow during his research on the Armenian issue.

    Quotations from the same manuscript appeared Ambassador Kamuran Gürün's book "The Armenian File". The Katchaznouni report was introduced to the Turkish reader by the weekly Aydınlık, in its issue of October 2, 2005.

    The first Prime Minister of the Dashnagzoution Government makes the following observations in his report:

    — It was a mistake to establish the volunteer units.

    — They were unconditionally allied with Russia.

    — They had not taken into consideration the balance of power which was in Turkey’s favour.

    — The decision of the deportation of Armenians was a rightful measure taken by Turks to serve their purpose.

    — Turkey had acted with an instinct of self-defence.

    — The British occupation once more aroused the hopes of the Dashnags.

    — What they established in Armenia was a Dashnag dictatorship.

    — They had acted in pursuit of the imperialist demand, ”From Sea to Sea” and had been provoked with this.

    — They massacred the Muslim population.

    — The Armenian terrorist acts were directed at winning over the Western public opinion.

    — The fault was not to be found outside the Dashnagzoutiun Party.

    — The Dashnagzoutiun Party had nothing else to do but commit suicide.

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    Fighting Against Turkey in the service of the British and French Armies

    Following the collapse of the Tsarist Russia, Dashnags went under the
    control of the Western imperialists and fought against Turkey for the
    regional interests of Britain, France, and USA.

    Katchaznouni, as the Prime Minister of the Dashnag government, on
    February 1919 , in a meeting with General F. Wocker, the commander of the occupational British forces, stated that he was sure the conditions of Armenians would improve with the victories of the Allies and with their movement into Caucasia. The report on this meeting is in the archives of the Interior Ministry of Armenia.19

    Similarly, another document in the Armenian State Archives relates
    that the Armenians in Adana were armed by the French occupational forces
    under the command of General Diffe, and were organized in ”revenge units” and fought in French uniforms.20

    Obeying British and French imperialism resulted in a
    commitment in Greek invasion. The Foreign Minister of the Dashnag
    Government states, in the telegram he sent to his representative in Tbilisi:

    “The situation on the front is very grave. It is essential
    that you see Luck and Corbeille21 and have them send telegrams to
    their governments informing them of how the Turkish troops are
    advancing and demand that they take all the necessary precautions(…)
    See the Greek representative too and demand that he too send a
    telegram to his government to inform them of the situation and to ask
    them if it is possible for the Greek forces to start an assault and break
    the strength of the Turkish forces”22

    Armenian Cruelty in Dashnag Reports

    The Armenian documents are also full of stories of massacre by the Dashnags under the command of the Tsarist Russia and Western Imperialism.

    In the letter of directive sent by Nikolaev, the commander of the Van military units, to Aram, who became the Governor of Van following the occupation of the city, on June 22, 1915, the troops are ordered to attack the Kurdish population in the area and
    ransack the villages. However, Aram, in his protesting reply states that the directives will not be carried out but as a warning to the Muslims in the areas not yet occupied, the guilty will be punished most gravely.23

    On the other hand, in the urgent report dated November 7, 1918 sent by Lieutenant Colonel Melik-Shahnazarov, the commander of the Dashnag Bash-Gyarninsk unit, he informs another Armenian division that they have bombed all the villages in the area,
    captured 30 Turkish villages and that they demand permission for an operation to bomb the remaining 29 villages. This Dashnag unit, which gets the permission from the Headquarters lays waste tens of Azerbaijanis villages in the Bash-Gyarninsk region,
    kills hundreds of people young and old, consisting of men, women and children and ransacks their belongings. The report by the Dashnag Lieutenant Colonel is kept in the Armenian State Archives.24

    The Dashnag report published by the Armenian Soviet historian Lalaian first in the issue 2-3 of the magazine, Revolyutsionnıy Vostok and then in issue 2 of İstoricheskie Zapisky, the organ of the USSR Academy of Sciences, Institute of History, is
    horrifying. The Dashnag officer, in the report he wrote from the Beyazıt-Vaaram region in 1920, narrates proudly their practices in the area:

    “I exterminated the Turkish population in Bashar-Gechar without making any exceptions. One sometimes feels the bullets shouldn’t be wasted. So, the most effective way against these dogs is to collect the people who have survived the clashes, dump
    them in deep holes, and crush them under heavy rocks pressed from above, not to let them inhabit this world any longer. So I did accordingly. I collected all the women, men and children and extinguished their lives in the deep holes I dumped them into,
    crushing them with rocks.”25

    Dashnag Policy of Plunder

    The Dashnag units practiced methods of torture of the Middle Ages and plundered the villages. In this way, they tried to overcome the financial crisis that the Armenian State was in. In the letter written by a Dashnag official to the head of the Dashnag
    government, A. Oganjanian, dated June 21, 1920, the official complains that the wealth that should be handed over
    to the Armenian state is being plundered by Armenians:

    “Zanki-Basar was occupied by our troops. This country is so rich that it can pay our debts many times over. There has been an unconceivable plunder here. They have collected all the wheat, the barley, the rice, all the samovars, the carpets, all the
    money, and gold. The Ministry of Finance could only send here yesterday, two officials, not accompanied by an organized force. A wealth of gigantic proportions is sliding away from our hands.”26

    This report by the Dashnag official who wanted the property belonging to Turks should be collected in the hands of the government is in the Armenian State Archives. Another important document in this direction is the report sent by the Armenian Governor
    of Kars, to the central authority. The Governor, as he is reporting how the Turkish-Kurdish population is exterminated and their assets plundered, complains that they are not always successful in collecting all the wealth in their hands in the occupied
    villages. The Governor adds that “the region comprising Turks and Kurds is really like a treasure. But unfortunately we cannot fully control this place.”27

    We come across the evidence of another instance of plunder in the 105th issue of 1920 of daily Jogovurd. The writer named G. Muradian recounts from the Azerbaijani villages of the North bank of Lake Gorchy his impressions of the Dashnag policy of plunder,
    with admiration:

    “As a result of the work carried out by our government, the population of these villages has been expelled outside the borders of Armenia. I have seen abandoned villages with only a few cats and dogs that were meowing or barking strangely with surprise
    at the death silence. The population of these villages has left behind a considerable amount of potatoes, wheat and barley and seeds. The government can collect from these villages, over two million pods of wheat and half a million pod of potatoes.”28

    Dashnag Torture on Armenian Peasants

    Dashnag documents also document how Armenian peasants suffered under the unbelievable torture and cruelty of the Armenian government itself. For example, it was reflected in the documents how the Dashnag Government Commissar, V. Agamian punished people
    and had them shot without trying them or carrying out an investigation on them, in order to prevent escapes from the army. Agamian gathered the wives, mothers and sisters of the people charged with deserting the army and stripped them naked and forced
    them to duck-walk in the village square. The Dashnag
    official then beat the naked women and kept them in water for hours. Agamian, who later ordered the women to be arrested, raped the young girls and women during the night. Agamian stayed in office for a long time without ever been punished. The Dashnag
    government called him back, only when they earned from a peasant named M. Azaparetov that the peasants were going to attempt at assassinating Agamian.29

    A one-time member of the Dashnag government, Jagetian, in his article published in Iran, makes the following statements concerning the Dashnag rule, which he was a part of:

    “The government armies, the pseudo-volunteer units (humbas), plundered the villages around the town of Ichevan (old Delican) and raped the women. The volunteer execution team put the peasants in such a state that the ‘humbapeta’ (the head of the
    team), ‘ArchMard’ (the bear-man) surrounded the village with 50 volunteers and pulled it down. Almost one thousand Armenian peasants were pushed to Azerbaijan territory.”

    Jagetian says that no official was punished for special treatment of friends and relatives and adds:

    “The Armenian Interior Ministry had become the shelter for all the criminals. The Minister Krmonian himself embezzled 50 million rubles from the state treasury one day before he left office.”30

    Years later, another representative of the Dashnags, the publisher Chalhushian calls the government police “plunder troops” and tells how it became impossible to walk unarmed in the center of the Armenian capital after sunset.31

    In fact, the system of Armenian volunteer units called “humbapeta” systemized anarchy and plunder in Armenia and the neighboring countries. The following song sung all together is actually a
    musical confession so far as it reflects the psychology of the volunteer units:

    “Come, pull down, pillage, kill and lay your jacket on your shoulder, walk about freely!”32

    These circumstances gave rise to a situation where everyone who so wished founded a volunteer unit and turned these units into criminal organizations. The directive given out by the “humbapeta” (head of the unit) named Deli-Qazar expresses this
    situation very well:

    “Announcement to the Armenians of the Yerevan region and the town of Yerevan: I am going to the front today with the boys. If some people, after I have left, introduce themselves as Deli-Qazar’s boys and misuse my name as a blackmailer, they will be
    punished severely by the nation and the military authority.”33

    By 1918, The Dashnag Government had recruited all its citizens below 35 to the army and had reestablished “volunteer” units for the war to be fought against Turkey. In their publications, they made announcements threatening those who would go against
    this decision with death and proclaimed that “those who were wise” would not act against them. The issue dated March 1, 1918 of the Dashnag organ, Arev contains such information.34

    In another document kept in the Armenian State Archives it is stated that special troops have been dispatched to punish the villages of Berd, Verhniy, Karmir, Ahbyur and the Shamshadinsk region.35

    The Dashnag organ, Martik, published in Guru states that two cannons, one machine gun and a team of soldiers will be dispatched to the villages of those who have not participated in the military mobilization and that those who resist will be bombarded.36
    The Dashnag authority had even formed troops named “Terror Organ” in order to fight the deserters and posted such announcements on the village walls:


    “To all the deserters and the Armenian people: On the night of March 1, somebody stealing a horse and two others deserting the regiment betrayed our country and the Armenian people and the three Armenian soldiers were executed by shooting. All the
    deserters should report to their troops and do their military service before it is too late. Otherwise they will be punished in the same way. Death to the traitors who will give Turks the opportunity of raiding Shiraq (Şirak). Terror Organ. Guru, March
    2, 1918” 37

    Jogavurd, one of the organs of the Armenian ruling powers states in its issue of June 29, 1920 that the Dashnag Government blocked the flow of the river Zhangi (Zangi) and cut their water supplies to punish the resisting peasants in the region. As a
    result of this punishment many people died and the crops were ruined.38

    Mauses Petros, one of the Dashnag ex-Foreign Ministers, who, like Katchaznouni, makes an appraisal of the past period in an open letter he wrote to Simeon Vratsian, one of the Dashnag ex-Prime Ministers and says that the past adventurous attitude of the
    government has brought poverty and national conflicts to the country. Petros’ open letter was published in Zang, the organ of the Hınchaq Party in Tabriz, on September 21, 1921.39

    Armenian Peasants Enthusiastically Greeting Turkish Army

    The Dashnags acting violently against the Turks and Kurds and massacring them caused antipathy also among the Armenian people. Moreover, some Armenian documents show the warm feelings displayed by Armenian peasants towards the Turkish Army. The report
    written by an Armenian officer sent from the town of Echimiadzin (Eçimiadzin) to the villages of Guru, in search of the Armenian soldiers who had deserted the army is striking. The commander, on the information he received from the report, reports to
    the Headquarters, on October 14, 1920, that:

    “The Armenians in the Guru region showed a hostile attitude towards the Dashnag officer and even attempted to turn him in to the Turks a few times. The people in many villages seem averse and hostile towards the military. In the villages of Ilhiab and
    Kapanak red flags have been put up. (…) My officer has come across a Turkish cavalry guard accompanied by horsemen from the Selchan (Selçan) Armenians. The Turks were welcomed with bread and salt. Peasant women cooked dishes in cauldrons. When my
    officer asked them who they were cooking the dishes for, they answered: “Certainly not for you, they are for the Turks.” “40

    The reception by the Armenian people themselves, of the Turkish Army, accused of genocide today, in this warm manner, gives an idea about how authentic the accusation is.

    It is interesting that Dashnags themselves advocated a pro-Turkish stand when the Soviet rule was established in Armenia, to be able to maintain their existence. Dashnags, who had displayed hostility towards communism for a long time and had suppressed
    the progressive people among Armenians, fighting against imperialism now started to defend alliance with Turkey as a way out. This fact too disproves the claims that Turkey practiced genocide on Armenians. In the article published in the Dashnag
    newspaper, Arach (Araç), on October 20, 1920, titled “The Question of Armistice and Our Direction”, it is stated that “if the Armenian people wish to maintain their existence, they are to adopt an inclination towards Turkey, not Russia”.41

    This preference is explained also in Ayrenik,42 the organ of the Armenians in the USA. Here, they even speak about how they caused wars by making too many demands on the Ottoman authorities in both the Abdulhamid and the Itched Terakki periods and how
    the Armenians are responsible for the killings.”43

    The Invaluable Katchaznouni Report and other Armenian Documents

    There have been endless allusions to “documents” in the discussions concerning the facts of World War I, from the point of view of TurkishArmenian relations. It is as if everybody is in search of a “magic document” to prove or disprove the “
    Armenian Genocide”. It is quite absurd to attempt at proving or disproving a historical fact such as genocide with one or two documents. However, if the public opinion and the academia are in need of valuable documents, the Katchaznouni Report is
    matchless in this respect, for the author is the first prime minister of Armenia; not of Turkey. And he encountered the incidents termed as genocide when he was the prime authority in the Dashnagzoutiun Party and the Armenian Government.

    He evaluated the events calmly and conscientiously not during but after the war, after it was over.

    The person who wrote the report was the leader of one of the parties at war, in fact, of the party, which is claimed to have suffered genocide.

    The Prime-Minister of Armenians, who are claimed to have suffered genocide, evaluates the incidents as events of war and what is more, sincerely admits that they have been manipulated by the imperialists.

    The document in your hands is not in the Turkish archives but in the Russian and Armenian archives. Who should the imperialists trust if they do not trust the Armenian Prime Minister, when they are making an appraisal of the claims about the “Armenian
    Genocide”? If the Armenian archives do not persuade them, which other archive will?

    The Katchaznouni Report puts an end to the great imperialist lie of “Armenian Genocide”.

    What remains is to launch a world-wide campaign of publishing the Katchaznouni Report and other Armenian documents which expose the facts in Turkish, English, French, German, Armenian, Russian, Arabic, Chinese, Spanish and other languages.

    Here are the facts from the pen of Katchaznouni, the first Armenian Prime-Minister, and leader of the Dashnagzoutiun Party.

    It will be appropriate to send a copy of this report to the Committee of International Relations of the US House of Representatives, to the parliaments of various USA states, the French National Assembly, the German Federal Parliament, to the Swedish
    National Parliament etc. They will learn from the Armenian Prime-Minister the authenticity of the decisions of “Armenian Genocide” taken by their parliaments.

    Mehmet Perinçek
    October 11, 2005 Generala Tyuleneva/ Moscow

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    18 Ayrenik, No. 5, 1933, cited in: a.A. Lalaian, “Kontrevolyutsionnaya Rol Partii Dashnagsoutiun”, İstoriçeskie Zapiski, No.2, 1928, p.83

    19 See Armenian SSR Interior Ministery Central October Revolution Archives (TsAOR MVD SSRA)f.114, d. 23, y.48 cited in: D. Yenukidze, Krah İmperialistiçeskoy İnterventsii V Zakavkazye, Gospolizdat
    Gruzinskoy SSR, Tbilisi, 1954, p. 188

    20 Armenian SSR State History Archives (GİAArm. SSR) f. 200 d. 132. y. 338 cited in: N.Z.Efendiyeva, Borba Turetskogo Naroda Protiv Frantsuzkih Okkupantov Na Yege Anatolii (1919-1921) gg.)İzdatelsvo AN Azerbaycanskoy SSR, Baku, 1966, p. 116 17

    21 The representatives of the Allies in Tbilisi

    22 D.S. Zavriev, K. Noveyşey, İstorii Severo-Vostoçnıh Vilayetov Turtsii, Tbilisi, 1947, s. 85

    23 D.S. Zavriev, K.Noveisheyİstorii Severo- Vostochnıh Vilayetov Turtsii, Tbilisi, 1947, p. 85

    24 Armenian State Archives (Gosarhiv Armenii) f. 67, d. 664, y. 1-2 cited in A.A. Lalaian, op.cit p. 99 vd.

    25 Op.cit p. 101; A. Lalaian, “Kontrevolyuysionnıy ‘Dashnagsutiun’ İ İmperialisticheskaia Voyna 1914-1918 gg.”, p. 92 vd

    26 Gosarhiv Armenii f. 65, d. 116, y. 96 cited in: A.A. Lalaian, “ Kontrevolyutsionnaya Rol Partii Dashnagzoutiun”, p. 100.

    27 Gosarhiv Armenii f. 67, d. 1769, y. 25, cited in: ibid

    28 Jogovur, No. 105, 1920 cited in op.cit p. 100 vd

    29 See A. Karinian, “K. Harakteristike Armyianskih Nationalisticheskih Techeniy”, bolshevik Zakavkatzia, No. 9-10, 1928, p. 70

    30 See AKarinian, “KHarakteristike Armianskih Nationalisticheskih Techeniy”, Bolshevik Zakavkazia, No. 9-10, 1928. p. 70

    31 See İbid p. 70 vd.

    32 T. Hachikoglian, 10 Let Armyanskoy Strelkovoy Divizii, İzdatelstvo Polit. Uprav. KKA, Tiflis, 1930, p. 5

    33 İbid, p.5 vd.

    34 Arev, No. 46, March 1, 1918 cited in: A. Lalaian, “Kontrrevolyutsiyonnıy ‘Dashnagsutyutiun’ İ
    İmperialistcheskaia Voina 1914-1918 gg.”, p. 96.

    35 Armenian SSR Central State Archive (TsGA Arm. SSR) f. 67/199, d. 139, y. 230 cited in:
    A.M.Elchibekian, Ustanovlenie Sovyetskoy Vlasti V. Armenii, İzdatelstvo AN Armyanskoy SSR, Yerevan, 1954, p. 76

    36 Martik, No. 2, 1918 cited in: T.P. Agaian, Veliki Oktyahr i Borba Trudyashihsia Armenii Za Pobedu Sovyekskoy Vlasti, İzdatelstvo AN Aramianskoy SSR, Yerevan, 1962, p. 134

    37 T. Hachikoglian, op.cit., p. 7

    38 Jogovurd, No.102, June 1920 cited in: A.A. Lalaian, “Kontrevolyutsionnaya Rol Partii Dashnagsutiun”, p. 102

    39 See Russian State Archive of Socio-Political History (RGASPİ) f. 64, I. 1, d. 208, y. 167-171.

    40 TsGAArm. SSR f. 68/200, d. 867, y. 278 cited in: A.M. Elchibekian, Velikaya Okyabrskya
    Sotsialistiçeskaya Revolyutsiya İ Pobeda Sovyetskoy Vlasti V Armenii, İzdatestvo A N Armyanskoy SSR, Yerevan, 1957, p. 209

    41 Arach, No. 255 October 20, 1920 cited in: A.A. Lalaian, op.cit. p. 105 and T.P. Agaian, op.cit. p.31

    42 A. Myasnikov, Armyanskie Politiçeskie Partii ZaRubejom, İzdatelstvo “Sovyetski Kavkaz”, Tiflis, 1925, p. 19.

    43 T.P. Agaian, op.cit. p. 31

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    Below is the link where Hovannes Katchznouni's "Report" is located. Download it and read it. Learn what and how Armenian terrorists raped, tortured, massacred Ottoman Moslem people (Turks, Kurds, Arabs, others) more that two million to carve up a
    territory for Armenians, and how they failed nevertheless.

    file:///C:/1%20GENDIR/3a%20MISC/0%20COUNTRIES/0%20ERMENI/Hovhannes%20Kajaznuni/1%20Hovhannes%20Kajaznuni%20Report.pdf

    I dare all Armenians and all the other anti-Turkish hate mongers to read it!!!!

    Stop murdering innocent Turkish diplomats and others

    Stop propagating anti-Turkish hatred, stop complaining and whining.

    Stop being an agent of Western Imperialism. Be a real Christian, Moslem, Judaist, Hindu, or Buddhist, etc. which are based on the fact the Great Creator creates and loves all human beings equally and unconditionally with no regards of color of sckin,
    race, culture, religion, gender, origin of geography, etc., fill your hearts with love and respect to fellow human beings equally, unconditionally, and for a lasting world peace be free of greed, jealousy and hatred aginst each other equally and
    unconditionally.

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    zaten yasattigi Vural Korkmaz ile zehir akitmaya devam etti . 3 karakter
    olarak yaziyordu. 2 ye indi simdi .

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    iki methiye al sana iste sozde Turk ...

    Biraz desince insan hak filan yok oyle boyle sirrak diye Kurt boluculugu
    ile cirilciplak kaldi.

    Simdi gelip yerlesek . Ona kendi meshur kufuru ile cevap vereyim.
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