• Re: Wesolego Indyka, p. Ambasadorze!

    From andal@21:1/5 to Basia on Fri Dec 22 19:57:27 2023
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 10:42:44 -0800 (PST), Basia wrote:

    On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 10:02:07 AM UTC-8, Russet Bulba wrote:

    I jak Niemcy wspierali bolszewikow Lenina, Stalin - Hitlera, teraz
    wspolczesnego KGBowca, ktory sam faszysta lecz krwawo zwalcza ten
    faszyzm u innych, jak USA wsparla mujahedinow czy Chiny no i jak Izrael
    Hamas, ktory mu tez sie urwal ze sznurka, jak to bywa. Wszystko
    dialektycznie.

    Ponizej chyba tez. Arestowicz byly doradca Zelenskiego ujawnil ze monokulturowa i monoetniczna Ukraina ktorej chcial rzad Zelenskiego
    umarla, i teraz bedzie co innego.

    Pewnie szykuja Go na jakiegos lidera nowej Ukrainy.

    Old Ukraine’ is dead – ex-Zelensky aide

    Few would fight for a suppressive state that treats minorities as
    second-rate citizens, Aleksey Arestovich has argued Ukraine cannot exist
    as a monoethnic and monocultural state in its 1991 borders, which is the essence of what the government of President Vladimir Zelenksy seeks in
    the conflict with Russia, his former aide Aleksey Arestovich said in an interview on Friday.
    Speaking to journalist Yulia Latynina, the ex-official declared the nationalist Ukrainian project “dead,”

    (...)
    “We live in a country of prohibitions, a country where freedoms are suppressed… where you are caught and forced into the army. Who would
    want to fight for such a nation?” Arestovich asked.

    He claimed that only by radically reforging itself as a multiethnic and multicultural nation, as befits its democratic composition, and putting
    its national interest first can Ukraine have a future.

    https://www.rt.com/russia/589526-arestovich-monoethnic-ukraine-dead/

    Basia (Ona/Jej)

    Ukraincy nigdy nie beda multi, gadanie na pokaz, pragna pozbyc sie opinii banderowcow

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  • From andal@21:1/5 to End Of Line on Tue Dec 26 21:32:21 2023
    On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 17:10:02 +0100, End Of Line wrote:

    On 12/22/2023 2:45 PM, Basia wrote:
    On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 4:56:15 AM UTC-8, Nostradamus wrote:
    W dniu 22.12.2023 o 12:15, Basia pisze:
    On Friday, December 22, 2023 at 2:56:11 AM UTC-8, u2 wrote:

    wojny światowe wybuchały w 20 wieku kiedy rządzili "demokraci" w
    USA, przypadek ? nie sądzę :-) :-) :-)

    A w jakiz to niby sposob Demokraci w Ameryce mieli by przyczynic sie
    do wybuchu wojen europejskich czy ktore rozpetala Europa??

    A w taki jak zawsze rozpętują wojny na świecie

    https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/8uO503HTMkM/m/ Ww6rTcArK_cJ

    Tak Demokraci z USA zabili Franciszka Ferdynanda w Sarajewie a pozniej
    zmusili Austro-Wegry do wypowiedzenia wojny Serbii. Pozniej zmusili
    Hitlera by aneksowal Austrie zajmowal Czechoslowacje czy napadal na
    Polske.

    Podobnie wczesniej z zaborami Polski,
    czy potopem szweckim albo Krzyzakami.

    Wolnej woli nikt w najbardziej krwawym kontynecie Planey nie posiadal i
    za wszystkie wojny odpowiedzialni sa amerykanscy Demokraci nawet gdy
    ich jeszcze nie bylo wcale.

    Basia (Ona/Jej)

    Hitlera finansowały amerykańskie banki i wielu amerykańskich "przyjaciół" jak Ford czy IBM.

    https://kmplusmedia.com/sites/default/files/film/pdf/
    HITLER%C2%B4S%20MONEY%20TRAIL_1.pdf
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/how-bankers-helped-the-
    nazis-20130801-2r1fd.html
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/americans-who-funded-hitler-nazis-german-
    economic-miracle-eger/

    The Americans who funded Hitler, Nazis, German economic miracle, and
    World War II Frederic Eger

    9 marca 2022

    The Americans who funded Hitler, Nazis, German economic miracle, and
    World War II -- by Nikolay Starikov Wed, 6 Oct 2010-- Photo by DoD --
    Seventy years ago the greatest massacre in history began – with the financing from the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve System of the United States. A recent resolution by the parliamentary assembly of the
    OSCE declared that the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany held equal roles in unleashing WWII. Furthermore, the resolution has the purely pragmatic
    goal of pumping Russian money into a few bankrupt economies while
    seeking to demonize Russia as the successor to the Soviet Union and
    prepare the legal groundwork for depriving Moscow from opposing this revisionist view the war. But if we are to debate the culpability for
    the war’s outbreak, then we need to begin by answering this key
    question: who accommodated the Nazis’ rise to power, who directed them towards global catastrophe? Germany’s entire prewar history shows that
    the “necessary” policies were all provided for by guided financial turmoil – the same situation, by the way, that the world finds itself in today.

    The key structures of the West’s post-war strategy were the central financial institutions of the United States and Great Britain – the Bank
    of England and the Federal Reserve System – coupled with financial-industrial organizations, who set out to establish absolute
    control over the financial system in Germany to manage the politics of Central Europe. The implementation of this strategy included the
    following steps:

    1st: 1919-1924 – Preparing the grounds for massive American financial investments in the German economy.

    2nd: 1924-1929 – Establishing control over the financial system and
    funding the National-Socialist movement.

    3rd: 1929-1933 – Inciting and unleashing a deep economic crisis ensuring the Nazis would rise to power.

    4th: 1933-1939 – Financial cooperation with the Nazi government and
    support for its expansionist foreign policy, aimed at preparing and unleashing the new world war.

    In the first stage, the major leverage for the penetration of American capital into Europe came from war debts and the closely related issue of German reparations. After the United States’ formal entry into WWI, the U.S. provided its allies (primarily England and France) with loans
    amounting to $8.8 billon. The total sum of war debt owed to the U.S., including loans offered between 1919 and 1921, amounted to $11 billion.
    To solve their own financial problems the debtor countries went after Germany, forcing it to pay an enormous sum in reparations under
    extremely difficult conditions. The resulting flight of German capital
    abroad and refusal by companies to pay their taxes resulted in such a
    state deficit that all the government could do is mass produce German
    marks without backing. The German currency collapsed as a result. During
    the hyperinflation of 1923, the inflation rate reached 578,512% and one dollar was worth 4.2 trillion Deutsch marks. German industrialists began
    to openly sabotage all attempt to pay the reparations, which eventually sparked the famous “Ruhr crisis” — a Franco-Belgian occupation of the Ruhr valley in 1923.

    This is exactly what the ruling elite in Britain and American had been waiting for. Having allowed France to get bogged down in the Ruhrland adventures and showing its inability to solve the problem, they took the situation into their own hands. U.S. Secretary of State Charles Evans
    Hughes said, “We must wait until Europe is ripe to accept the American proposal.”

    A new project was developed in the bowels of J.P. Morgan and Co. at the behest Montague Norman, head of the Bank of England. At the heart of the project were Dresdner Bank representative Hjalmar Schacht’s proposals, which had been formulated in March 1922 at the request of John Foster
    Dulles, future Secretary of State under Eisenhower, and legal advisor to President Woodrow Wilson at the Paris Peace Conference.

    Comment: Brothers in Armchairs [link], John Foster Dulles and Allen
    Dulles (CIA director 1953 – 1961).


    Dulles passed the proposals to the chief trustee of J.P. Morgan and Co.,
    who then gave recommendations to Schacht, Norman and – at last – to Weimar officials. In December 1923, Schacht became the director of
    Reichbank and played an instrumental role in bringing together the Anglo-American and German financial circles.

    In the summer of 1924, the project, known as the “Dawes Plan” (named after an Charles G. Dawes, the American director of one of Morgan’s
    banks, who chaired the committee of experts who preparing the proposals)
    was adopted at the London Conference. He called for halving the
    reparations to be paid, and also settled how Germany would pay them off. However, the primary goal was to provide favorable conditions for U.S. investment, which could only be made possible by stabilizing the German
    mark.

    To that end, Germany was granted $200 million in loans, half of which
    were provided by Morgan’s banks. In doing so, Anglo-American banks established control over not only Germany’s payments, but also its
    budget, monetary system and, to a large extent, its credit system. By
    August 1924, the old German mark had been made anew, the financial
    situation in Germany stabilized, and, as researcher G.D. Preparta wrote,
    the Weimar Republic was prepared for “the most striking economic aid in history, followed by the most bitter harvest in world history. […] [T]he uncontrollable gushing of American blood flooded into Germany’s
    financial core.”

    The consequences of this quickly made themselves noticed.

    Firstly, due to the fact that the annual reparations payments were to
    cover the allies’ total debts, the so-called “absurd Weimar cycle” developed. The gold that Germany was using to pay war reparations was
    heaped up and sold to the U.S., where it disappeared. From the U.S., according to the plan, gold was going to Germany in the form of “aid”, which was then paid back to England and France, who then sent it back to
    the United States to pay off their war debts. The U.S. then placed a
    heavy interest rate on it and sent it back to Germany. In the end,
    Germany lived off of debt, and it was clear that should Wall Street
    withdraw its loans, then the country would suffer a complete meltdown.

    Secondly, although the loans were officially given to Germany to ensure
    the payment of reparations, in reality, they were designed to restore
    the country’s military-industrial potential. In fact, the Germans paid
    off the loans with shares of German companies, allowing American capital
    to actively integrate itself into the German economy. The total amount
    of foreign investment in German industry from 1924-1929 amounted to
    nearly 63 billion gold marks (the loans accounted for 30 billion of
    this), and 10 billion in reparations was paid off. American bankers – primarily J.P. Morgan, provided Seventy percent of Germany’s financial income. As a result, as early as 1929, Germany’s industry was second in
    the world, but to a large extent it was in the hands of America’s
    leading financial-industrial groups.

    Thus, I.G. Farben, the company that became the German war machine’s key component, was under the control of Rockefeller’s Standard Oil at the
    time it funded 45 percent of Hitler’s election campaign in 1930. Through General Electric, J.P. Morgan controlled the German radio and electrical industry in the form of AEG and Siemens (by 1933, General Electric owned
    a 30 percent stake in AEG). Through telecom company ITT, he controlled
    40 percent of Germany’s telephone network and 30 percent of aircraft manufacturer Focke-Wulf. Opel was taken over by the Dupont family’s
    General Motors. Henry Ford held a 100 percent stake in Volkswagen. In
    1926, with the participation of Rockefeller bank, Dillon Reed and Co.,
    the second largest industrial monopoly emerged – metallurgical firm Vereinigte Stahlwerke (Unified Steel Trusts) of Thyssen, Flick, Wolf,
    Fegler, etc.

    American cooperation with Germany’s military-industrial complex became
    so intense and pervasive that, by 1933, American capital had reached key sectors of German industry and even major banks like Deutsche Bank,
    Dresdner Bank, Donat Bank, etc.

    Comment: Germany presented an incredible investment opportunity. A well-educated, motivated population in a key geographic location
    available for pennies on the dollar. Perhaps some investors were not concerned about other agendas.

    Simultaneously, a political force was being financed that would be
    called upon to play a crucial role in the Anglo-American plans – the
    Nazi party and Adolf Hitler himself.

    German Chancellor Brüning wrote in his memoirs that beginning in 1923, Hitler received large sums of money from abroad – from where exactly is unknown, but it passed through Swiss and Swedish banks. It is also known
    that in 1922, Hitler met with U.S. Military Attaché Capt. Truman Smith
    in Munich – a meeting Smith recounted in a detailed report to his Washington superiors (in the Office of Military Intelligence), saying he thought highly of Hitler.

    It was through Smith’s circle of acquaintances that Hitler came into contact with “Putzi” (Ernst Franz Sedgwick Hanfstaengl), a Harvard University graduate who played an important role shaping Hitler into a successful politician, giving him substantial financial support and connections among senior British figures.

    Comment: Ernst Hanfstaengl, a historically quiet influence with some remarkable connections [link]

    Hanfstaengl was the son of a successful art dealer and had dual U.S. – German citizenship. He was born in Bavaria, and graduated from Harvard University in 1909. The half-German tranquilly spent the whole of WWI in America. Not only was he, as a German citizen, not arrested – even after the United States declared war on Germany – but after promising “not to engage in any anti-American activities,” he was left alone. Why? Because his lawyer, was U.S. Secretary of State Theodore Roosevelt!

    … Ernst earned the nickname “Putzi” among the Nazis, meaning “kid” (and
    “funny” and “amusing”). Under this name he entered German history books
    in the Nazi movement. Historians remember nothing, and paint Hanfstaengl
    as a joker, forgetting that such a role is the most convenient for the
    hidden influence of a puppet master.

    … Putzi’s true value in forming the Nazi’s into a party and Hitler into a leader is still not fully appreciated.

    … Putzi Hanfstaengl was rich and could afford to help out a novice politician – to direct, and put on the right path.

    … in 1923, Hanfstaengl holds a series of geopolitical discussions with Hitler, enlightening the future fuehrer and expanding his horizons. And already in 1924, “the student” writes his own book, word for word repeating the thesis of his friend. So who is the real author of Mein
    Kampf? It turns out it was an American spy.

    … In the summer of 1932, an extremely influential British politician
    came on a personal visit – Winston Churchill. … [Hitler] didn’t even go to the meeting with Churchill, in spite of Ernst Hanfstaengl’s many persuasions!

    … in February 1934, [Hanfstaengl] left without the Fuhrer’s consent to meet with … Benito Mussolini. The modest press secretary’s mission was
    to nudge El Duce to normalize relations.

    Mission accomplished:

    [Hanfstaengl] left Germany in March 1937. More precisely, snuck out, supposedly after getting into conflict with some in Hitler’s inner
    circle and felt his life was threatened.

    … During the Second World War, Hanfstaengl would work … as an advisor to President Roosevelt!

    More on Hanfstaengl [link].

    Hitler was preparing himself for big-time politics, but, as long as prosperity reigned in Germany, his party remained on the periphery of
    public life. This situation changed dramatically with the onset of the crisis.

    After the U.S. Federal Reserve engineered the collapse of the stock
    market in the autumn of 1929, the third phase of the Anglo-American
    strategy began.

    The Fed and J.P. Morgan decided to cease lending to Germany, spurring a banking crisis and economic depression in Central Europe. In September
    1931, England abandoned the gold standard, deliberately destroying the international payment system and completely cutting off the financial
    oxygen of the Weimar Republic.

    But, the Nazi Party experienced a miraculous boom: in September 1930,
    thanks to large donations from Thyssen, I.G. Farben, and Kirdorf, the
    party collected 6.4 million votes – putting it in second place in the Reichstag. Shortly thereafter appeared a generous infusion of funds from abroad. Hjalmar Schacht became the key link between the major German industrialists and the foreign financiers.

    On January 4, 1932, at a meeting between Adolf Hitler, German Chancellor Franz von Papen and Montague Norman, a secret agreement was reached
    securing funding for the Nazi Party. The American politician, Dulles,
    was also present at this meeting – something his biographers don’t like to mention. On January 14, 1933, Hitler held a meeting with Kurt von Schroeder, a Nazi-sympathizing banker, von Papen and Kepler, where the Hitler’s program was fully approved. It was here that the final path for the Nazis’ rise to power was laid, and on January 30, Hitler became chancellor.

    Then began the fourth stage of the strategy.

    The relationship between the new government and the Anglo-American
    ruling circles became extremely benevolent. When Hitler refused
    continued payment of reparations, which naturally raised questions about
    the payment of war debts, neither Britain nor France forced him to pay
    up. Moreover, after Reichsbank head Hjalmar Schacht traveled to the U.S.
    in May 1933 to meet with the president and major Wall Street bankers,
    America provided Germany with new loans totaling $1 billion. And in
    June, during a visit to Norman in London, Schacht requested an addition
    $2 billion in loans as well as a reduction and eventual cessation of
    payment on old loans. Thus, the Nazis got something that the previous government could not.

    In the summer of 1934, Britain signed the Anglo-German Transfer
    Agreement, which became one of the foundations of British policy towards
    the Third Reich, and by the end of the 1930’s, Germany developed into Britain’s primary trading partner. Schroeder’s bank turned into Germany’s and Great Britain’s main agent, and in 1936, its New York branch merged with a Rockefeller holding to create the investment bank “Schroeder, Rockefeller and Co.”, which the New York Times described as “economic-propagandist axis of Berlin-Rome”. As he admitted himself, Hitler viewed foreign credit as the financial basis of his four-year
    plan, so this didn’t raise the slightest alarm.

    In August 1934, American oil giant Standard Oil purchased 730,000 acres
    of land in Germany and built large oil refineries that supplied the
    Nazis with oil. At the same time, the United States secretly provided
    Germany with the most modern equipment for airplane factories, which
    would soon produce German aircraft. Germany received a large number of patents from American firms Pratt and Whitney, Douglas, and the Bendix Corporation, and the “Junker-87” dive-bomber was built using purely American technology. By 1941, when the second world war was in
    full-swing, American investment in the German economy totaled $475
    million, Standard Oil invested $120 million alone, General Motors — $35 million, ITT — $30 million, and Ford — $17.5 million.

    The intimate financial and economic collusion between Anglo-American and
    Nazi businessman was the backdrop against which the policy of
    appeasement to the aggressor took place – leading directly to World War
    II.

    Today, while the global financial elite has embarked on a plan of “Great Depression part II” with the subsequent transition to a “new world order”, it is imperative to identify its key role in organizing crimes against humanity in the past.

    ORIENTAL REVIEW has completed exclusive translations of the chapters
    from Nikolay Starikov’s documentary research “”Who Made Hitler Attack Stalin” (St.Petersburg, 2008). Mr. Starikov is Russian historian and
    civil activist. The original text was adapted and translated by ORIENTAL REVIEW.
    See also the excellent book by James Pool: Who Financed Hitler The
    Secret Funding of Hitler's Rise to Power, 1919-1933

    https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Who-Financed-Hitler/James-Pool/
    9780671760830

    wszystkie wojny na swiecie od czasu reewolucji francuskiej sa finansowane/ rezyserowane przez zydowski kapital

    kazdy rzad/panstwo zawsze znajduje kase na wojne chocby jego obywatele
    umierali z glodu

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