Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego. Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral
sie przy promowaniu siebie. Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy
moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

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On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 8:53:15 AM UTC-4, Grzgrz wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego. Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral

sie przy promowaniu siebie. Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy
moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

To tez talent wart uznania.

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Russet Bulba napisał(a):

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 8:53:15 AM UTC-4, Grzgrz wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego. Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie

upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie. Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i
kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

To tez talent wart uznania.

Po części. Statystyka, niektóre rzeczy mu wypaliły, na wielu rzeczach się wyłożył.
I ogólnie pompowany przez swojaków z przemysłu rozrywkowego.

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On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 11:01:55 AM UTC-4, Alojzy Gąska wrote:

Russet Bulba napisał(a):

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 8:53:15 AM UTC-4, Grzgrz wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego. Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie

upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie. Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i
kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

To tez talent wart uznania.

Po części. Statystyka, niektóre rzeczy mu wypaliły, na wielu rzeczach się wyłożył.
I ogólnie pompowany przez swojaków z przemysłu rozrywkowego.

Faktem jest, ze najwiecej Nobli w nauce zbieraja nasi Amerykanie. A ci glownie z pewnych uniwersytetow. Te z kolei chojnie obdarowywane przez bogatych patronow. Teraz, jakie jest powiazanie miedzy tymi bogatymi uniwersytetami a komitetem Nagrod Nobla? A
wszystko tajne lub conajmniej dyskretne. Sama elegancja. Zwaz iz ostatnio wsrod laureatoww pojawilo sie nieco kobiet, zgodnie z wiadomym trendem. Odchowaly juz dzieci i moga teraz w pelni poswiecic sie nauce?

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony
Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego. Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania
tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja
skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w
powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych
pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

i tak zanotowanow swietej ksiedze talmudu

nie oszukasz nie wygrasz

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz <gjc1gjc2@gmail.com>
wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego.
Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby
politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji
samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

Ciekawe, wiec postanowilem sprawdzic ta informacje. Nie chce sie
ustosunkowywac do stosunkow Einsteina z jego zona, ale to co
sprawdzilem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Smoluchowski
[...]
In 1906, shortly after Albert Einstein, he independently explained
Brownian motion.[6] Smoluchowski presented an equation[which?] which
became a basis for the theory of stochastic processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
Then, in 1905, theoretical physicist Albert Einstein published a paper
where he modeled the motion of the pollen particles as being moved by individual water molecules, making one of his first major scientific contributions.[3]
[...]
Albert Einstein (in one of his 1905 papers) and Marian Smoluchowski
(1906) brought the solution of the problem to the attention of
physicists, and presented it as a way to indirectly confirm the
existence of atoms and molecules. Their equations describing Brownian
motion were subsequently verified by the experimental work of Jean
Baptiste Perrin in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
General relativity, also known as the general theory of relativity and Einstein's theory of gravity, is the geometric theory of gravitation
published by Albert Einstein in 1915 and is the current description of gravitation in modern physics.

Aby ipewnic sie spytalem chatGPT:
Pytanie: Did Max Planck publish his version of general relativity
theory?

ChatGPT
No, Max Planck did not publish his own version of the general
relativity theory. General relativity was formulated by Albert
Einstein and published by him in 1915. Max Planck was a German
physicist who made significant contributions to quantum theory and is
best known for introducing the concept of quantization of energy.
While Planck and Einstein were contemporaries and had a close
professional relationship, Planck did not independently develop a
version of general relativity.

Einstein's general relativity revolutionized our understanding of
gravity, replacing the earlier Newtonian theory with a new framework
that describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass
and energy. This theory has been supported by numerous experimental observations and has become a fundamental part of modern physics.

zalek

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On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:26:50 PM UTC-6, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz <gjc1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego.
Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby
politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji
samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

Ciekawe, wiec postanowilem sprawdzic ta informacje. Nie chce sie ustosunkowywac do stosunkow Einsteina z jego zona, ale to co
sprawdzilem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Smoluchowski
[...]
In 1906, shortly after Albert Einstein, he independently explained
Brownian motion.[6] Smoluchowski presented an equation[which?] which
became a basis for the theory of stochastic processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
Then, in 1905, theoretical physicist Albert Einstein published a paper
where he modeled the motion of the pollen particles as being moved by individual water molecules, making one of his first major scientific contributions.[3]
[...]
Albert Einstein (in one of his 1905 papers) and Marian Smoluchowski
(1906) brought the solution of the problem to the attention of
physicists, and presented it as a way to indirectly confirm the
existence of atoms and molecules. Their equations describing Brownian
motion were subsequently verified by the experimental work of Jean
Baptiste Perrin in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
General relativity, also known as the general theory of relativity and Einstein's theory of gravity, is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915 and is the current description of gravitation in modern physics.

Aby ipewnic sie spytalem chatGPT:
Pytanie: Did Max Planck publish his version of general relativity
theory?

ChatGPT
No, Max Planck did not publish his own version of the general
relativity theory. General relativity was formulated by Albert
Einstein and published by him in 1915. Max Planck was a German
physicist who made significant contributions to quantum theory and is
best known for introducing the concept of quantization of energy.
While Planck and Einstein were contemporaries and had a close
professional relationship, Planck did not independently develop a
version of general relativity.

Einstein's general relativity revolutionized our understanding of
gravity, replacing the earlier Newtonian theory with a new framework
that describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass
and energy. This theory has been supported by numerous experimental observations and has become a fundamental part of modern physics.

zalek

Jesli dobrze zrozumialem, pierwsze rownania znane jako kinetyczna teoria gazow opublikowal William Sutherland w roku 1904.

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On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 6:06:47 PM UTC-6, Hreczecha wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:26:50 PM UTC-6, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz <gjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego.
Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby
politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji
samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

Ciekawe, wiec postanowilem sprawdzic ta informacje. Nie chce sie ustosunkowywac do stosunkow Einsteina z jego zona, ale to co
sprawdzilem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Smoluchowski
[...]
In 1906, shortly after Albert Einstein, he independently explained Brownian motion.[6] Smoluchowski presented an equation[which?] which became a basis for the theory of stochastic processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
Then, in 1905, theoretical physicist Albert Einstein published a paper where he modeled the motion of the pollen particles as being moved by individual water molecules, making one of his first major scientific contributions.[3]
[...]
Albert Einstein (in one of his 1905 papers) and Marian Smoluchowski
(1906) brought the solution of the problem to the attention of
physicists, and presented it as a way to indirectly confirm the
existence of atoms and molecules. Their equations describing Brownian motion were subsequently verified by the experimental work of Jean Baptiste Perrin in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
General relativity, also known as the general theory of relativity and Einstein's theory of gravity, is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915 and is the current description of gravitation in modern physics.

Aby ipewnic sie spytalem chatGPT:
Pytanie: Did Max Planck publish his version of general relativity
theory?

ChatGPT
No, Max Planck did not publish his own version of the general
relativity theory. General relativity was formulated by Albert
Einstein and published by him in 1915. Max Planck was a German
physicist who made significant contributions to quantum theory and is
best known for introducing the concept of quantization of energy.
While Planck and Einstein were contemporaries and had a close
professional relationship, Planck did not independently develop a
version of general relativity.

Einstein's general relativity revolutionized our understanding of
gravity, replacing the earlier Newtonian theory with a new framework
that describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass
and energy. This theory has been supported by numerous experimental observations and has become a fundamental part of modern physics.

zalek

Jesli dobrze zrozumialem, pierwsze rownania znane jako kinetyczna teoria gazow opublikowal William Sutherland w roku 1904.

I wyglada na to, ze cala trojka prowadzila pdobne badania i do podobnych wnioskow doszla niezaleznie. Co nie powinno nikogo zdziwic. N.p. W szkole uczylismy sie, ze tlen odkryli, niezaleznie od siebie, Scheeele i Priestley. I okazalo sie, ze 170 lat
przed nimi, Michal Sedziwoj, w swoich czasach bardzo ceniony alchemik, wymieszal i podgrzal to samo, co w.w. naukowcy i doszedl do tego samego wniosku.

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On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 3:05:25 AM UTC+1, Hreczecha wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 6:06:47 PM UTC-6, Hreczecha wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:26:50 PM UTC-6, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz <gjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego.
Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby
politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji
samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

Ciekawe, wiec postanowilem sprawdzic ta informacje. Nie chce sie ustosunkowywac do stosunkow Einsteina z jego zona, ale to co sprawdzilem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Smoluchowski
[...]
In 1906, shortly after Albert Einstein, he independently explained Brownian motion.[6] Smoluchowski presented an equation[which?] which became a basis for the theory of stochastic processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
Then, in 1905, theoretical physicist Albert Einstein published a paper where he modeled the motion of the pollen particles as being moved by individual water molecules, making one of his first major scientific contributions.[3]
[...]
Albert Einstein (in one of his 1905 papers) and Marian Smoluchowski (1906) brought the solution of the problem to the attention of physicists, and presented it as a way to indirectly confirm the existence of atoms and molecules. Their equations describing Brownian motion were subsequently verified by the experimental work of Jean Baptiste Perrin in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
General relativity, also known as the general theory of relativity and Einstein's theory of gravity, is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915 and is the current description of gravitation in modern physics.

Aby ipewnic sie spytalem chatGPT:
Pytanie: Did Max Planck publish his version of general relativity theory?

ChatGPT
No, Max Planck did not publish his own version of the general
relativity theory. General relativity was formulated by Albert
Einstein and published by him in 1915. Max Planck was a German
physicist who made significant contributions to quantum theory and is best known for introducing the concept of quantization of energy.
While Planck and Einstein were contemporaries and had a close professional relationship, Planck did not independently develop a version of general relativity.

Einstein's general relativity revolutionized our understanding of gravity, replacing the earlier Newtonian theory with a new framework that describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass
and energy. This theory has been supported by numerous experimental observations and has become a fundamental part of modern physics.

zalek

Jesli dobrze zrozumialem, pierwsze rownania znane jako kinetyczna teoria gazow opublikowal William Sutherland w roku 1904.

I wyglada na to, ze cala trojka prowadzila pdobne badania i do podobnych wnioskow doszla niezaleznie. Co nie powinno nikogo zdziwic. N.p. W szkole uczylismy sie, ze tlen odkryli, niezaleznie od siebie, Scheeele i Priestley. I okazalo sie, ze 170 lat

przed nimi, Michal Sedziwoj, w swoich czasach bardzo ceniony alchemik, wymieszal i podgrzal to samo, co w.w. naukowcy i doszedl do tego samego wniosku.

Doszedl do jakiego takiego samego wniosku? Przeciez nie mogl go sformuowac uzywajac pojec, ktore powstaly pozniej. Kontekst ma zasadnicze znaczenie. Odkrycia Sedziwoja mialy charakter ciekawostki. Jaka technologia powstala
na jej podstawie? Nie bez przyczyny spawalnictwo kluczowe dla rewolucji przemyslowej powstalo dlugo pozniej.

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On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 10:26:50 PM UTC+1, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz <gjc1...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego.
Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby
politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji
samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

Ciekawe, wiec postanowilem sprawdzic ta informacje. Nie chce sie ustosunkowywac do stosunkow Einsteina z jego zona, ale to co
sprawdzilem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Smoluchowski
[...]
In 1906, shortly after Albert Einstein, he independently explained
Brownian motion.[6] Smoluchowski presented an equation[which?] which
became a basis for the theory of stochastic processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
Then, in 1905, theoretical physicist Albert Einstein published a paper
where he modeled the motion of the pollen particles as being moved by individual water molecules, making one of his first major scientific contributions.[3]
[...]
Albert Einstein (in one of his 1905 papers) and Marian Smoluchowski
(1906) brought the solution of the problem to the attention of
physicists, and presented it as a way to indirectly confirm the
existence of atoms and molecules. Their equations describing Brownian
motion were subsequently verified by the experimental work of Jean
Baptiste Perrin in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
General relativity, also known as the general theory of relativity and Einstein's theory of gravity, is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915 and is the current description of gravitation in modern physics.

Aby ipewnic sie spytalem chatGPT:
Pytanie: Did Max Planck publish his version of general relativity
theory?

ChatGPT
No, Max Planck did not publish his own version of the general
relativity theory. General relativity was formulated by Albert
Einstein and published by him in 1915. Max Planck was a German
physicist who made significant contributions to quantum theory and is
best known for introducing the concept of quantization of energy.
While Planck and Einstein were contemporaries and had a close
professional relationship, Planck did not independently develop a
version of general relativity.

Einstein's general relativity revolutionized our understanding of
gravity, replacing the earlier Newtonian theory with a new framework
that describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass
and energy. This theory has been supported by numerous experimental observations and has become a fundamental part of modern physics.

zalek

Specific RT was in fact a collective work. With Maxwell equations
and Lorentz transformation, it just needed a leap of imagination to get
the whole picture. There is a some evidence that Milena provided this
leap of imagination. But it was Einstein who brought it all together and described it in his 1905 paper. A work of true beauty and clarity.

Brownian motion seems like a bunch of parallel development.
Nor in fact independent because the guys exchanged information.

General RT is more problematic. ChatGPT just relies on generally
available linguistic associations. Completely unreliable for this
question. I've read a paper claiming that Planck was first,
but I cannot find it now. Anyway, equations is not all. Einstein
wrote a series of papers elaborating on the sense and
experimentally provable consequences. He was indeed
a scientist of incredibly deep insight.

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On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 5:49:49 AM UTC+1, Grzgrz wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 10:26:50 PM UTC+1, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz <gjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego.
Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby
politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji
samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

Ciekawe, wiec postanowilem sprawdzic ta informacje. Nie chce sie ustosunkowywac do stosunkow Einsteina z jego zona, ale to co
sprawdzilem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Smoluchowski
[...]
In 1906, shortly after Albert Einstein, he independently explained Brownian motion.[6] Smoluchowski presented an equation[which?] which became a basis for the theory of stochastic processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
Then, in 1905, theoretical physicist Albert Einstein published a paper where he modeled the motion of the pollen particles as being moved by individual water molecules, making one of his first major scientific contributions.[3]
[...]
Albert Einstein (in one of his 1905 papers) and Marian Smoluchowski
(1906) brought the solution of the problem to the attention of
physicists, and presented it as a way to indirectly confirm the
existence of atoms and molecules. Their equations describing Brownian motion were subsequently verified by the experimental work of Jean Baptiste Perrin in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
General relativity, also known as the general theory of relativity and Einstein's theory of gravity, is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915 and is the current description of gravitation in modern physics.

Aby ipewnic sie spytalem chatGPT:
Pytanie: Did Max Planck publish his version of general relativity
theory?

ChatGPT
No, Max Planck did not publish his own version of the general
relativity theory. General relativity was formulated by Albert
Einstein and published by him in 1915. Max Planck was a German
physicist who made significant contributions to quantum theory and is
best known for introducing the concept of quantization of energy.
While Planck and Einstein were contemporaries and had a close
professional relationship, Planck did not independently develop a
version of general relativity.

Einstein's general relativity revolutionized our understanding of
gravity, replacing the earlier Newtonian theory with a new framework
that describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass
and energy. This theory has been supported by numerous experimental observations and has become a fundamental part of modern physics.

zalek

Specific RT was in fact a collective work. With Maxwell equations
and Lorentz transformation, it just needed a leap of imagination to get
the whole picture. There is a some evidence that Milena provided this
leap of imagination. But it was Einstein who brought it all together and described it in his 1905 paper. A work of true beauty and clarity.

Brownian motion seems like a bunch of parallel development.
Nor in fact independent because the guys exchanged information.

General RT is more problematic. ChatGPT just relies on generally
available linguistic associations. Completely unreliable for this
question. I've read a paper claiming that Planck was first,
but I cannot find it now. Anyway, equations is not all. Einstein
wrote a series of papers elaborating on the sense and
experimentally provable consequences. He was indeed
a scientist of incredibly deep insight.

IMPORTANT CORRECION:
It was not Planck. I was Hilbert, of course.
Mistake.

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On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 10:26:17 PM UTC-6, Grzgrz wrote:

On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 3:05:25 AM UTC+1, Hreczecha wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 6:06:47 PM UTC-6, Hreczecha wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:26:50 PM UTC-6, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz <gjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego.
Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby
politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji
samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

Ciekawe, wiec postanowilem sprawdzic ta informacje. Nie chce sie ustosunkowywac do stosunkow Einsteina z jego zona, ale to co sprawdzilem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Smoluchowski
[...]
In 1906, shortly after Albert Einstein, he independently explained Brownian motion.[6] Smoluchowski presented an equation[which?] which became a basis for the theory of stochastic processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
Then, in 1905, theoretical physicist Albert Einstein published a paper where he modeled the motion of the pollen particles as being moved by individual water molecules, making one of his first major scientific contributions.[3]
[...]
Albert Einstein (in one of his 1905 papers) and Marian Smoluchowski (1906) brought the solution of the problem to the attention of physicists, and presented it as a way to indirectly confirm the existence of atoms and molecules. Their equations describing Brownian motion were subsequently verified by the experimental work of Jean Baptiste Perrin in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
General relativity, also known as the general theory of relativity and Einstein's theory of gravity, is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915 and is the current description of gravitation in modern physics.

Aby ipewnic sie spytalem chatGPT:
Pytanie: Did Max Planck publish his version of general relativity theory?

ChatGPT
No, Max Planck did not publish his own version of the general relativity theory. General relativity was formulated by Albert Einstein and published by him in 1915. Max Planck was a German physicist who made significant contributions to quantum theory and is best known for introducing the concept of quantization of energy. While Planck and Einstein were contemporaries and had a close professional relationship, Planck did not independently develop a version of general relativity.

Einstein's general relativity revolutionized our understanding of gravity, replacing the earlier Newtonian theory with a new framework that describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass and energy. This theory has been supported by numerous experimental observations and has become a fundamental part of modern physics.

zalek

Jesli dobrze zrozumialem, pierwsze rownania znane jako kinetyczna teoria gazow opublikowal William Sutherland w roku 1904.

I wyglada na to, ze cala trojka prowadzila pdobne badania i do podobnych wnioskow doszla niezaleznie. Co nie powinno nikogo zdziwic. N.p. W szkole uczylismy sie, ze tlen odkryli, niezaleznie od siebie, Scheeele i Priestley. I okazalo sie, ze 170 lat

przed nimi, Michal Sedziwoj, w swoich czasach bardzo ceniony alchemik, wymieszal i podgrzal to samo, co w.w. naukowcy i doszedl do tego samego wniosku.

Doszedl do jakiego takiego samego wniosku? Przeciez nie mogl go sformuowac uzywajac pojec, ktore powstaly pozniej. Kontekst ma zasadnicze znaczenie. Odkrycia Sedziwoja mialy charakter ciekawostki. Jaka technologia powstala
na jej podstawie? Nie bez przyczyny spawalnictwo kluczowe dla rewolucji przemyslowej powstalo dlugo pozniej.

Masz racje. Kontekst jest bardzo istotny. N.p. silnik parowy wynalazl Heron z Aleksandii na dlugo przed Jamesem Wattem. Ale jedyna technologia, ktora z tego wynalazku wynikla bylo otwieranie i zamykanie drzwi swiatyni. I to bodajze tylko jednej swiatyni.
Ale so do odkryc Scheelego i Pirestleya: Zdaje mi sie, ze z tego zaadna technologie nie powstala. Do technologii przyczynilo sie chyba odkrycie Antoine Lavoisier'a dotyczace roli tlenu w procesie spalania.

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On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 11:31:10 PM UTC-6, Hreczecha wrote:

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 10:26:17 PM UTC-6, Grzgrz wrote:

On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 3:05:25 AM UTC+1, Hreczecha wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 6:06:47 PM UTC-6, Hreczecha wrote:

On Tuesday, November 14, 2023 at 3:26:50 PM UTC-6, Zalek...@hotmail.com wrote:

On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 04:53:14 -0800 (PST), Grzgrz <gjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Albert Einstein ukradl szczegolna teorie wzglednosci od swojej zony Mileny, a teorie ruchow Browna od Mariana Smoluchowskiego.
Ogolna teorie wzglednosci AE ukradl od Maxa Plancka, ktory opublikowal jej rownania tydzien przed Einsteinem ale nie upieral sie przy promowaniu siebie.
Nagrode Nobla dostal AE za zjawisko fotoelektryczne ale od kogo ja skopiowal? Powiedzenie, ze AE byl tylko agresywnym hohsztaplerem byloby
politycznie niepoprawne i prawdopodobnie przesadne. Pomysly kraza w powietrzu i kazdy moze je podchwytywac. A jesli ich uzyje glownie dla promocji
samego siebie to tym gorzej dla prawdziwych tworcow tych pomyslow. Tak dziala Historia.

Ciekawe, wiec postanowilem sprawdzic ta informacje. Nie chce sie ustosunkowywac do stosunkow Einsteina z jego zona, ale to co sprawdzilem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Smoluchowski
[...]
In 1906, shortly after Albert Einstein, he independently explained Brownian motion.[6] Smoluchowski presented an equation[which?] which became a basis for the theory of stochastic processes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_motion
Then, in 1905, theoretical physicist Albert Einstein published a paper
where he modeled the motion of the pollen particles as being moved by
individual water molecules, making one of his first major scientific contributions.[3]
[...]
Albert Einstein (in one of his 1905 papers) and Marian Smoluchowski (1906) brought the solution of the problem to the attention of physicists, and presented it as a way to indirectly confirm the existence of atoms and molecules. Their equations describing Brownian
motion were subsequently verified by the experimental work of Jean Baptiste Perrin in 1908.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
General relativity, also known as the general theory of relativity and
Einstein's theory of gravity, is the geometric theory of gravitation published by Albert Einstein in 1915 and is the current description of
gravitation in modern physics.

Aby ipewnic sie spytalem chatGPT:
Pytanie: Did Max Planck publish his version of general relativity theory?

ChatGPT
No, Max Planck did not publish his own version of the general relativity theory. General relativity was formulated by Albert Einstein and published by him in 1915. Max Planck was a German physicist who made significant contributions to quantum theory and is
best known for introducing the concept of quantization of energy. While Planck and Einstein were contemporaries and had a close professional relationship, Planck did not independently develop a version of general relativity.

Einstein's general relativity revolutionized our understanding of gravity, replacing the earlier Newtonian theory with a new framework that describes gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by mass and energy. This theory has been supported by numerous experimental observations and has become a fundamental part of modern physics.

zalek

Jesli dobrze zrozumialem, pierwsze rownania znane jako kinetyczna teoria gazow opublikowal William Sutherland w roku 1904.

I wyglada na to, ze cala trojka prowadzila pdobne badania i do podobnych wnioskow doszla niezaleznie. Co nie powinno nikogo zdziwic. N.p. W szkole uczylismy sie, ze tlen odkryli, niezaleznie od siebie, Scheeele i Priestley. I okazalo sie, ze 170

lat przed nimi, Michal Sedziwoj, w swoich czasach bardzo ceniony alchemik, wymieszal i podgrzal to samo, co w.w. naukowcy i doszedl do tego samego wniosku.

Doszedl do jakiego takiego samego wniosku? Przeciez nie mogl go sformuowac uzywajac pojec, ktore powstaly pozniej. Kontekst ma zasadnicze znaczenie. Odkrycia Sedziwoja mialy charakter ciekawostki. Jaka technologia powstala na jej podstawie? Nie bez przyczyny spawalnictwo kluczowe dla rewolucji przemyslowej powstalo dlugo pozniej.

Masz racje. Kontekst jest bardzo istotny. N.p. silnik parowy wynalazl Heron z Aleksandii na dlugo przed Jamesem Wattem. Ale jedyna technologia, ktora z tego wynalazku wynikla bylo otwieranie i zamykanie drzwi swiatyni. I to bodajze tylko jednej

swiatyni. Ale so do odkryc Scheelego i Pirestleya: Zdaje mi sie, ze z tego zaadna technologie nie powstala. Do technologii przyczynilo sie chyba odkrycie Antoine Lavoisier'a dotyczace roli tlenu w procesie spalania.
Co do Sedziwoja: Znalazlem to: https://ciekawostkihistoryczne.pl/2023/08/03/michal-sedziwoj-odkrywca-tlenu/
Wiec chyba wiedzial, co odkryl.

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