TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassination
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
Video:
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassination
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
Video:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1696882854766973158
brat_olin pisze:
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassination
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
Video:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1696882854766973158
Tucker locuta, causa finita.
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassination
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-2:30, brat_olin wrote:their Turkish-based militia:
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassinationI didn't know you were on the first-name base with Carlson, Mr. K. ;-)
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
But I am afraid he is not as reliable source of a political insight as you have him. Like you
- he is blinded with his adoration of Trump so much that he can't admit to his followers
like you, that the candidate Trump is ESSENTIAL to Biden chances for re-election.
With Trump as the opponent - Biden's age, economy, war in Ukraine no longer count - all
Biden needs to run on is: "Not Trump"
"* "They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. We have not forgotten. We don’t forget.” Donald J. Trump
A year later, the Trumps America not only forgot, but betrayed the same Kurds, despite of the protests of the US soldiers on the ground and the resignation of his own Secretary of the Defense, gen. Mattis, Trump left the Syrian Kurds at the mercy to
"Khalaf, 35, a Syrian Kurd with long brown hair and a dimpled chin, believed a new kind of politics was needed. Kurds, Christians, Turkmens, and Arabs alike had suffered under the Syrian regime and ISIS’ reign of terror, and she wanted to unifyhistorically fractious communities fed up with violence. Khalaf’s vehicle was ambushed by Ahrar al-Sharqiya, a Turkish-backed militia. A video posted online shows the Toyota askew off-road, riddled with bullets.
“Another fleeing pig has been liquidated by the hands of the National Army,” one man gloats."
Left at their mercy, the (surviving) Kurds were forced to ask the Assad and Russia for the protection.
Asked about his betrayal, of the very same people who "TENS OF THOUSANDS" fighting the common enemy, ISIS, Trump replied that the US didn't own any gratitude to those Kurds,
because ... they didn't help the US during Normandy.
That's the guy you want to run against.
===
Piotr
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassination
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
Video:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1696882854766973158
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 8:23:13 AM UTC-7, brat_olin wrote:
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassination
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
Video:
https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1696882854766973158
Jedno jest pewne gdyby istniala w USA
wolna prasa wiedzieli bysmy dlaczego
druga kadencja Trumpa jest nie do
zaakceptowania... a tak mozemy sie
tylko domyslac, spekulowac.
Tucker mowi ze zabija; i byc moze ma
racje. Powtorka z Florydy, na modle pogonienia
Al Gore'a w Sadzie Najwyzszym jest zbyt
karkolomna.
Pojedynek 'hanging chads' vs 'mail in ballots'
moglby byc naprawde fascynujacy.
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 1:36:07 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:their Turkish-based militia:
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-2:30, brat_olin wrote:
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassinationI didn't know you were on the first-name base with Carlson, Mr. K. ;-)
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
But I am afraid he is not as reliable source of a political insight as you have him. Like you
- he is blinded with his adoration of Trump so much that he can't admit to his followers
like you, that the candidate Trump is ESSENTIAL to Biden chances for re-election.
With Trump as the opponent - Biden's age, economy, war in Ukraine no longer count - all
Biden needs to run on is: "Not Trump"
"* "They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. We have not forgotten. We don’t forget.” Donald J. Trump
A year later, the Trumps America not only forgot, but betrayed the same Kurds, despite of the protests of the US soldiers on the ground and the resignation of his own Secretary of the Defense, gen. Mattis, Trump left the Syrian Kurds at the mercy to
historically fractious communities fed up with violence. Khalaf’s vehicle was ambushed by Ahrar al-Sharqiya, a Turkish-backed militia. A video posted online shows the Toyota askew off-road, riddled with bullets."Khalaf, 35, a Syrian Kurd with long brown hair and a dimpled chin, believed a new kind of politics was needed. Kurds, Christians, Turkmens, and Arabs alike had suffered under the Syrian regime and ISIS’ reign of terror, and she wanted to unify
“Another fleeing pig has been liquidated by the hands of the National Army,” one man gloats."
Left at their mercy, the (surviving) Kurds were forced to ask the Assad and Russia for the protection.
Asked about his betrayal, of the very same people who "TENS OF THOUSANDS" fighting the common enemy, ISIS, Trump replied that the US didn't own any gratitude to those Kurds,
because ... they didn't help the US during Normandy.
That's the guy you want to run against.Do not you think Mr Trela that it might have been the appropriate time for Canada and other Western countries to step into the void left after the US disengagement?
===
Piotr
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 2:31:24 PM UTC-2:30, Russet Bulba wrote:to their Turkish-based militia:
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 1:36:07 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-2:30, brat_olin wrote:
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassinationI didn't know you were on the first-name base with Carlson, Mr. K. ;-) But I am afraid he is not as reliable source of a political insight as you have him. Like you
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
- he is blinded with his adoration of Trump so much that he can't admit to his followers
like you, that the candidate Trump is ESSENTIAL to Biden chances for re-election.
With Trump as the opponent - Biden's age, economy, war in Ukraine no longer count - all
Biden needs to run on is: "Not Trump"
"* "They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. We have not forgotten. We don’t forget.” Donald J. Trump
A year later, the Trumps America not only forgot, but betrayed the same Kurds, despite of the protests of the US soldiers on the ground and the resignation of his own Secretary of the Defense, gen. Mattis, Trump left the Syrian Kurds at the mercy
historically fractious communities fed up with violence. Khalaf’s vehicle was ambushed by Ahrar al-Sharqiya, a Turkish-backed militia. A video posted online shows the Toyota askew off-road, riddled with bullets."Khalaf, 35, a Syrian Kurd with long brown hair and a dimpled chin, believed a new kind of politics was needed. Kurds, Christians, Turkmens, and Arabs alike had suffered under the Syrian regime and ISIS’ reign of terror, and she wanted to unify
historically fractious communities fed up with violence. Khalaf’s vehicle was ambushed by Ahrar al-Sharqiya, a Turkish-backed militia. A video posted online shows the Toyota askew off-road, riddled with bullets.“Another fleeing pig has been liquidated by the hands of the National Army,” one man gloats."
Left at their mercy, the (surviving) Kurds were forced to ask the Assad and Russia for the protection.
Asked about his betrayal, of the very same people who "TENS OF THOUSANDS" fighting the common enemy, ISIS, Trump replied that the US didn't own any gratitude to those Kurds,
because ... they didn't help the US during Normandy.
Tangential thinking again? What THAT has to do with the discussed here TRUMP'S betrayalThat's the guy you want to run against.Do not you think Mr Trela that it might have been the appropriate time for Canada and other Western countries to step into the void left after the US disengagement?
===
Piotr
of the Kurds? How after saying in the name of America:
"They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. WE have not FORGOTTEN. WE DON'T FORGET forget.”
President of the United States of American Donald "Can't Stop Winning" Trump
a year later, America ... forgot NOT - Trump withdrew the American troops leaving their Kurdish allies at the mercy of their enemies:
===
"Khalaf, 35, a Syrian Kurd with long brown hair and a dimpled chin, believed a new kind of politics was needed. Kurds, Christians, Turkmens, and Arabs alike had suffered under the Syrian regime and ISIS’ reign of terror, and she wanted to unify
“Another fleeing pig has been liquidated by the hands of the National Army,” one man gloats."-
This is how to the Trump's betrayal of the Kurds responded the American Special Forces soldiers
on whose backs Trump wanted to score political points for "bringing our boys home":
“They trusted us and we broke that trust,” one Army officer who has worked alongside the Kurds in northern Syria. “It’s a stain on the American conscience.”
“I’m ashamed,” said another officer who had also served in northern Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey-trump.html
Trump's own Secretary of Defense resigned his post. Unlike Trump, gen. Mattis served in
the American armed forces, and put his life on the line for his country, in fact, he was
"probably the most decorated Marine living". And he shared not only the outrage of his soldiers,
but also saw the Trump betrayal of the America's strategic interests:
The message of Trump - was loud and unmistakable, both to the America's friends and enemies:
- THIS IS how much the MEMORY and GRATITUDE of America is worth. And if they did it to the people who lost TENS OF THOUSANDS, fighting their common enemy, while the America
lost ... 10, - then think again how much the US "friendship" and US security guarantees
(like those made by the US to the Ukraine in 1994, to convince them to give up the post-Soviet nuclear arms) - would be worth to the countries that DIDN'T lose TENS OF THOUSANDS of their people to fighting their and Americas enemies.
And compare THAT to what Russia is willing to do for THEIR allies - see the Russian army
saving the Assad regime. Now, whose friend you would rather be?
==
Piotr
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 4:20:55 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:to their Turkish-based militia:
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 2:31:24 PM UTC-2:30, Russet Bulba wrote:
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 1:36:07 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 12:53:13 PM UTC-2:30, brat_olin wrote:
TUCKER ON TRUMP: “We are speeding towards assassinationI didn't know you were on the first-name base with Carlson, Mr. K. ;-) But I am afraid he is not as reliable source of a political insight as you have him. Like you
obviously. — They have decided that there's something about
Trump that's so threatening to them, they just can't have it”.
- he is blinded with his adoration of Trump so much that he can't admit to his followers
like you, that the candidate Trump is ESSENTIAL to Biden chances for re-election.
With Trump as the opponent - Biden's age, economy, war in Ukraine no longer count - all
Biden needs to run on is: "Not Trump"
"* "They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. We have not forgotten. We don’t forget.” Donald J. Trump
A year later, the Trumps America not only forgot, but betrayed the same Kurds, despite of the protests of the US soldiers on the ground and the resignation of his own Secretary of the Defense, gen. Mattis, Trump left the Syrian Kurds at the mercy
historically fractious communities fed up with violence. Khalaf’s vehicle was ambushed by Ahrar al-Sharqiya, a Turkish-backed militia. A video posted online shows the Toyota askew off-road, riddled with bullets."Khalaf, 35, a Syrian Kurd with long brown hair and a dimpled chin, believed a new kind of politics was needed. Kurds, Christians, Turkmens, and Arabs alike had suffered under the Syrian regime and ISIS’ reign of terror, and she wanted to unify
historically fractious communities fed up with violence. Khalaf’s vehicle was ambushed by Ahrar al-Sharqiya, a Turkish-backed militia. A video posted online shows the Toyota askew off-road, riddled with bullets.“Another fleeing pig has been liquidated by the hands of the National Army,” one man gloats."
Left at their mercy, the (surviving) Kurds were forced to ask the Assad and Russia for the protection.
Asked about his betrayal, of the very same people who "TENS OF THOUSANDS" fighting the common enemy, ISIS, Trump replied that the US didn't own any gratitude to those Kurds,
because ... they didn't help the US during Normandy.
Tangential thinking again? What THAT has to do with the discussed here TRUMP'S betrayalThat's the guy you want to run against.Do not you think Mr Trela that it might have been the appropriate time for Canada and other Western countries to step into the void left after the US disengagement?
===
Piotr
of the Kurds? How after saying in the name of America:
"They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. WE have not FORGOTTEN. WE DON'T FORGET forget.”
President of the United States of American Donald "Can't Stop Winning" Trump
a year later, America ... forgot NOT - Trump withdrew the American troops leaving their Kurdish allies at the mercy of their enemies:
===
"Khalaf, 35, a Syrian Kurd with long brown hair and a dimpled chin, believed a new kind of politics was needed. Kurds, Christians, Turkmens, and Arabs alike had suffered under the Syrian regime and ISIS’ reign of terror, and she wanted to unify
“Another fleeing pig has been liquidated by the hands of the National Army,” one man gloats."-
This is how to the Trump's betrayal of the Kurds responded the American Special Forces soldiers
on whose backs Trump wanted to score political points for "bringing our boys home":
“They trusted us and we broke that trust,” one Army officer who has worked alongside the Kurds in northern Syria. “It’s a stain on the American conscience.”
“I’m ashamed,” said another officer who had also served in northern Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey-trump.html
Trump's own Secretary of Defense resigned his post. Unlike Trump, gen. Mattis served in
the American armed forces, and put his life on the line for his country, in fact, he was
"probably the most decorated Marine living". And he shared not only the outrage of his soldiers,
but also saw the Trump betrayal of the America's strategic interests:
The message of Trump - was loud and unmistakable, both to the America's friends and enemies:
- THIS IS how much the MEMORY and GRATITUDE of America is worth. And if they did it to the people who lost TENS OF THOUSANDS, fighting their common enemy, while the America
lost ... 10, - then think again how much the US "friendship" and US security guarantees
(like those made by the US to the Ukraine in 1994, to convince them to give up the post-Soviet nuclear arms) - would be worth to the countries that DIDN'T lose TENS OF THOUSANDS of their people to fighting their and Americas enemies.
And compare THAT to what Russia is willing to do for THEIR allies - see the Russian army
saving the Assad regime. Now, whose friend you would rather be?
==
in fighting ISIS but they were not allied for fighting Turkey in this case. And that was the sole reason for Trump’s withdrawal that actually was never completed.PiotrYour scissors at work again, MrTrela? That’s my complete and not castrated by you my argument as follows. It is clear now?
Do not you think Mr Trela that it might have been the appropriate time for Canada and other Western countries to step into the void left after the US disengagement? What has prevented those moralizers from doing that? Yes, the US and Kurds were allied
The US military assistance to the Syrian opposition was consequently shared with other fractions fighting the government and in this sense not fully aligned with American objectives. The argument was that the fight against the islamist radicals willensue after the regime collapse but that has never happened. So there were more other legitimate reasons for the American frustration.
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 4:20:55 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
Your scissors at work again, MrTrela? That’s my complete and not castrated by you my argument as follows.
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 5:18:53 PM UTC-2:30, Russet Bulba wrote:. in the wake of Trump's action:
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 4:20:55 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
Your scissors at work again, MrTrela? That’s my complete and not castrated by you my argument as follows.Delusions of the persecution, Mr. Strak? NOBODY is "CENSORING" you - your original post is
STILL WHERE YOU posted it - a few posts above in this thread: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/oMeao1mHWjo/m/7p_lFvf4AgAJ i.e. nobody has REMOVED it!
My post you commented - was about Trump's presidency legacy - I brought up the ethical and strategic implications of the Trump's betrayal of American allies, the Syrian Kurds. You defended Trump by asking ... what ... other countries did or didn't do ..
"Do not you think Mr Trela that it might have been the appropriate time for Canada and other Western countries to step into the void left after the US disengagement? "in fighting ISIS but they were not allied for fighting Turkey in this case. [see my comment on US "fighting Turkey" above - PT ]. And that was the sole reason for Trump’s withdrawal that actually was never completed."
I took issue with that claim so I QUOTED that sentence, and challenged it.
I DIDN'T comment at that time on you other dishonest claim - that stationing few
troops in northern Syria was tantamount to " US being allied with Kurds for fighting Turkey",
the same way the US were with Kurds to fight ISIS. so I didn't quote the claims I wasn't
discussing at the time. Admirers of your intellect and ethics can easily find your thoughts
in your post: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/oMeao1mHWjo/m/7p_lFvf4AgAJ
unless _you_ delete it - it will be still there.
So much for you accusations of my secret police "censorship" of your post.
Piotr
Below, for the reference, the exchange in question, with the spectacular contribution of
Mr. Strak, in full:
PT " the candidate Trump is ESSENTIAL to Biden chances for re-election.
With Trump as the opponent - Biden's age, economy, war in Ukraine no longer count - all
Biden needs to run on is: "Not Trump"
[ here was the description of the Trump's betrayal of the Kurds, and implication of it - ethical and to the long term US stategic interests
Andrew "I admire Trump" Strak, enters the fray [full text ! ;-) ]
"Do not you think Mr Trela that it might have been the appropriate time for Canada and other Western countries to step into the void left after the US disengagement? What has prevented those moralizers from doing that? Yes, the US and Kurds were allied
PT: "Tangential thinking again? What [what Canada and other countries did or not did] has tohistorically fractious communities fed up with violence. Khalaf’s vehicle was ambushed by Ahrar al-Sharqiya, a Turkish-backed militia. A video posted online shows the Toyota askew off-road, riddled with bullets.
do with the discussed here TRUMP'S betrayal of the Kurds? How after saying in the name of America:
"They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. WE have not FORGOTTEN. WE DON'T FORGET forget.”
President of the United States of American Donald "Can't Stop Winning" Trump
a year later, America ... forgot NOT - Trump withdrew the American troops leaving their Kurdish allies at the mercy of their enemies:
===
"Khalaf, 35, a Syrian Kurd with long brown hair and a dimpled chin, believed a new kind of politics was needed. Kurds, Christians, Turkmens, and Arabs alike had suffered under the Syrian regime and ISIS’ reign of terror, and she wanted to unify
“Another fleeing pig has been liquidated by the hands of the National Army,” one man gloats."-
This is how to the Trump's betrayal of the Kurds responded the American Special Forces soldiers
on whose backs Trump wanted to score political points for "bringing our boys home":
“They trusted us and we broke that trust,” one Army officer who has worked alongside the Kurds in northern Syria. “It’s a stain on the American conscience.”
“I’m ashamed,” said another officer who had also served in northern Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey-trump.html
Trump's own Secretary of Defense resigned his post. Unlike Trump, gen. Mattis served in
the American armed forces, and put his life on the line for his country, in fact, he was
"probably the most decorated Marine living". And he shared not only the outrage of his soldiers,
but also saw the Trump betrayal of the America's strategic interests:
The message of Trump - was loud and unmistakable, both to the America's friends and enemies:
- THIS IS how much the MEMORY and GRATITUDE of America is worth. And if they did it to the people who lost TENS OF THOUSANDS, fighting their common enemy, while the America
lost ... 10, - then think again how much the US "friendship" and US security guarantees
(like those made by the US to the Ukraine in 1994, to convince them to give up the post-Soviet nuclear arms) - would be worth to the countries that DIDN'T lose TENS OF THOUSANDS of their people to fighting their and Americas enemies.
And compare THAT to what Russia is willing to do for THEIR allies - see the Russian army
saving the Assad regime. Now, whose friend you would rather be?
===
Mr Trela, you have undoubtedly voted for Liberals and their political agenda to dump
their American friends in the struggle in Syria with ISIS. Apparently in consideration
of irresponsible American actions over there? Therefore why are you complaining now?
On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 5:49:43 PM UTC-2:30, Russet Bulba wrote:areas IRAQ (Peshmerga).
Mr Trela, you have undoubtedly voted for Liberals and their political agenda to dumpProjections, my dear Strak, projections. Just because you and your Master sacrificed your
their American friends in the struggle in Syria with ISIS. Apparently in consideration
of irresponsible American actions over there? Therefore why are you complaining now?
integrity and critical thinking, laying them at the altar of your cult of personality ("I admire
Trump", "Pres. Trump Can't Stop Winning") does not mean everybody else is like you two.
And your lack of ANY doubts in you being right ("undoubtedly") also fits the bill.
One could argue, whether Canada, after 14 years of Canada's "punching well above their weight" in Afghanistan, a decision made by the so-despised by you Liberal Party, could sustain extended presence supporting its anti-ISIS operations from Kurdish
Their withdrawal from IRAQ there didn't leave the Kurds at the mercy of the Turkish militias,
the way the Trump's withdrawal of the American ground troops done to the Kurds in
the northern Syria.
But that's all BEYOND the point of this discussion, which is about Trump - so your attempt to DEFLECT from the ethical implication of TRUMP lying though his teeth to the Syrian Kurds
on how "America does not forget" its allies and the "tens of thousands of Kurds" that along
with 10 American soldiers, died fighting the common brutal enemy - ISIS. Nor will it deflect it
from the damage to the American long-term strategic interests Trump has done.
You are becoming more and more like that Soviet computer from an old Polish joke
- the one that unable to disprove the inferiority of Communist economy - replied to
the American computer: "And you have been lynching Blacks! "
=
More about ethical implications and Trump's strategic damage to the Americas long-term interests
of his betrayal of America's allies - in my earlier post: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/oMeao1mHWjo/m/ib9AHZQAAwAJ
Piotr
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
But that's all BEYOND the point of this discussion, which is about Trump - so your attempt to DEFLECT from the ethical implication of TRUMP lying though his teeth to the Syrian Kurds
on how "America does not forget" its allies and the "tens of thousands of Kurds" that along
with 10 American soldiers, died fighting the common brutal enemy - ISIS. Nor will it deflect it
from the damage to the American long-term strategic interests Trump has done.
You are becoming more and more like that Soviet computer from an old Polish joke
- the one that unable to disprove the inferiority of Communist economy - replied to
the American computer: "And you have been lynching Blacks! "
=
More about ethical implications and Trump's strategic damage to the Americas long-term interests
of his betrayal of America's allies - in my earlier post: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/oMeao1mHWjo/m/ib9AHZQAAwAJ
Piotr
The altars again in your mind, Mr Trela?
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 2:28:20 PM UTC-2:30, Russet Bulba wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
But that's all BEYOND the point of this discussion, which is about Trump - so your attempt to DEFLECT from the ethical implication of TRUMP lying though his teeth to the Syrian Kurds
on how "America does not forget" its allies and the "tens of thousands of Kurds" that along
with 10 American soldiers, died fighting the common brutal enemy - ISIS. Nor will it deflect it
from the damage to the American long-term strategic interests Trump has done.
You are becoming more and more like that Soviet computer from an old Polish joke
- the one that unable to disprove the inferiority of Communist economy - replied to
the American computer: "And you have been lynching Blacks! "
=
More about ethical implications and Trump's strategic damage to the Americas long-term interests
of his betrayal of America's allies - in my earlier post: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/oMeao1mHWjo/m/ib9AHZQAAwAJ
Piotr
The altars again in your mind, Mr Trela?Yes, you and your Master (prof. Kle...) sacrificing your integrity and critical thinking, laying
them at the ALTAR of your CULT of personality : "I admire Trump", "Pres. Trump Can't Stop Winning",
and COMPARING Trump to JEZUS, by comparing legal problems of your Trump to "Golgotha", the hill on which Jesus was crucified.
And the rest was also about sacrifices at the altar - when your Jesus of Mar-a-Lago:
first made promises in the name of America:
"They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. WE have not FORGOTTEN. WE DON'T FORGET forget.”
President of the United States of American Donald "Can't Stop Winning" Trump and then sacrificed his allies, who already sacrificed "TENS OF THOUSANDS" in the fight against
ISIS, at the altar of his ego - for the sake of the popularity among idolizing him trumpist crowd,
for bringing our "our boys" home. The boys in question, the Green Berets, didn't necessarily
shared Trumps self-satisfaction:
- “They trusted us and we broke that trust,” one Army officer who has worked alongside
the Kurds in northern Syria. “It’s a stain on the American conscience.” - “I’m ashamed,” said another officer who had also served in northern Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey-trump.html
Finally, at the ALTAR of his short-term popularity among his faithful - Trump sacrificied the
long- term American strategic interests. See the post to which you "reply"
====
"The message of Trump - was loud and unmistakable, both to the America's friends and enemies:
- THIS IS how much the MEMORY and GRATITUDE of America is worth. And if they did it to the people who lost TENS OF THOUSANDS, fighting their common enemy, while the America
lost ... 10, - then think again how much the US "friendship" and US security guarantees
(like those made by the US to the Ukraine in 1994, to convince them to give up the post-Soviet nuclear arms) - would be worth to the countries that DIDN'T lose TENS OF THOUSANDS of their people to fighting their and Americas enemies.
And compare THAT to what Russia is willing to do for THEIR allies - see the Russian army
saving the Assad regime. Now, whose friend you would rather be?"
==
Piotr
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 7:17:50 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:question? If yes, you backstabbed your ally while pretending you care about him so much. What a shameful full display of Mr Trela hypocrisy. It is better off having ISIS in front of us than such an ally at the back.
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 2:28:20 PM UTC-2:30, Russet Bulba wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 1:40:47 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
But that's all BEYOND the point of this discussion, which is about Trump - so your attempt to DEFLECT from the ethical implication of TRUMP lying though his teeth to the Syrian Kurds
on how "America does not forget" its allies and the "tens of thousands of Kurds" that along
with 10 American soldiers, died fighting the common brutal enemy - ISIS. Nor will it deflect it
from the damage to the American long-term strategic interests Trump has done.
You are becoming more and more like that Soviet computer from an old Polish joke
- the one that unable to disprove the inferiority of Communist economy - replied to
the American computer: "And you have been lynching Blacks! "
=
More about ethical implications and Trump's strategic damage to the Americas long-term interests
of his betrayal of America's allies - in my earlier post: https://groups.google.com/g/soc.culture.polish/c/oMeao1mHWjo/m/ib9AHZQAAwAJ
Piotr
The altars again in your mind, Mr Trela?Yes, you and your Master (prof. Kle...) sacrificing your integrity and critical thinking, laying
them at the ALTAR of your CULT of personality : "I admire Trump", "Pres. Trump Can't Stop Winning",
and COMPARING Trump to JEZUS, by comparing legal problems of your Trump to "Golgotha", the hill on which Jesus was crucified.
And the rest was also about sacrifices at the altar - when your Jesus of Mar-a-Lago:
first made promises in the name of America:
"They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. WE have not FORGOTTEN. WE DON'T FORGET forget.”
President of the United States of American Donald "Can't Stop Winning" Trump
and then sacrificed his allies, who already sacrificed "TENS OF THOUSANDS" in the fight against
ISIS, at the altar of his ego - for the sake of the popularity among idolizing him trumpist crowd,
for bringing our "our boys" home. The boys in question, the Green Berets, didn't necessarily
shared Trumps self-satisfaction:
- “They trusted us and we broke that trust,” one Army officer who has worked alongside
the Kurds in northern Syria. “It’s a stain on the American conscience.”
- “I’m ashamed,” said another officer who had also served in northern Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey-trump.html
Finally, at the ALTAR of his short-term popularity among his faithful - Trump sacrificied the
long- term American strategic interests. See the post to which you "reply"
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"The message of Trump - was loud and unmistakable, both to the America's friends and enemies:
- THIS IS how much the MEMORY and GRATITUDE of America is worth. And if they did it to the people who lost TENS OF THOUSANDS, fighting their common enemy, while the America
lost ... 10, - then think again how much the US "friendship" and US security guarantees
(like those made by the US to the Ukraine in 1994, to convince them to give up the post-Soviet nuclear arms) - would be worth to the countries that DIDN'T lose TENS OF THOUSANDS of their people to fighting their and Americas enemies.
And compare THAT to what Russia is willing to do for THEIR allies - see the Russian armyWhy do you care about the American long term interest when abandoning them as an ally during the critical moment of the Syrian war? Did you vote for the Liberal ticket that time MrTrela or not? Can I expect any yes or no answer to this straightforward
saving the Assad regime. Now, whose friend you would rather be?"
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Piotr
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 7:17:50 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
Why do you care about the American long term interest when abandoning them as an ally during the critical moment of the Syrian war?
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 11:33:15 PM UTC-2:30, Russet Bulba wrote:
On Thursday, August 31, 2023 at 7:17:50 PM UTC-3, Piotr wrote:
Why do you care about the American long term interest when abandoning them as an ally during the critical moment of the Syrian war?I care because Trumps betrayal of the Kurds helped the enemies of the free world - Russia, China, Iran, Islamic fundamentalists. What's good for them - is not good for me.
If I care, then certainly you and your admired President, whom your Mentor compares to Jesus - should have.
The rest as before:
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Andrew Strak: "The altars again in your mind, Mr Trela?"
me: "Yes, you and your Master (prof. Kle...) sacrificing your integrity and critical thinking, laying
them at the ALTAR of your CULT of personality : "I admire Trump", "Pres. Trump Can't Stop Winning",
and COMPARING Trump to JESUS, by comparing legal problems of your Trump to "Golgotha", the hill on which Jesus was crucified.
And the rest was also about sacrifices at the altar - when your Jesus of Mar-a-Lago:
first made promises in the name of America:
"They fought with us. They died with us. They died. We lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of Kurds, died FIGHTING ISIS. WE have not FORGOTTEN. WE DON'T FORGET forget.”
POTUS Donald "Can't Stop Winning" Trump
and a year later - sacrificed his allies, who already sacrificed "TENS OF THOUSANDS" in the
fight against ISIS, at the ALTAR of his ego - for the sake of the popularity among idolizing him trumpist crowd, for bringing our "our boys" home. The boys in question, the Green Berets, didn't necessarily shared Trumps self-satisfaction:
- “They trusted us and we broke that trust,” one Army officer who has worked alongside
the Kurds in northern Syria. “It’s a stain on the American conscience.”
- “I’m ashamed,” said another officer who had also served in northern Syria."
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey-trump.html
Finally, at the ALTAR of his popularity among his faithful - Trump sacrificed the
long- term American strategic interests. See the post to which you "reply": The message of Trump - was loud and unmistakable, both to the America's friends and enemies:
- THIS IS how much the MEMORY and GRATITUDE of America is worth. And if America did it
to the people who lost TENS OF THOUSANDS, fighting their common enemy, while the
America lost ... 10, - then think again how much the US "friendship" and US security
guarantees (like those made by the US to the Ukraine in 1994, to convince them to give up
the post-Soviet nuclear arms) - would be worth to the countries that DIDN'T lose TENS OF THOUSANDS of their people to fighting their and Americas enemies.
And compare THAT to what Russia is willing to do for THEIR allies - see the Russian army
saving the Assad regime. Now, whose friend you would rather be?"
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