• Trump Vodka for Passover

    From Yisroel Markov@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 18 14:52:14 2016
    Sometimes globalization produces really weird results :-) ---------------------------------------

    An article in Time describes some of Trump’s business misadventures,
    including Trump Vodka, which was introduced in 2006 under the tagline
    “success distilled,” and marketed as a premium vodka that would
    “demand the same respect and inspire the same awe as the international
    legacy and brand of Donald Trump himself.” The brand was discontinued
    in 2011.

    What few people know is that there is one country in the world where
    it has enjoyed an unexpected afterlife… in Israel, as the vodka of
    choice for Passover-observant drinkers. [...]

    In 2011, according to Globes daily, Donald Trump learned from an
    employee who had travelled to Israel that a company called H. Pixel International Trade Ltd. was selling potato-based vodka in trademark
    Trump Vodka bottles that resemble skyscrapers, as well as using Donald
    Trump’s image to advertise the product. Trump’s original vodka, for
    the record, was not potato-based but rather distilled five times in
    Holland from “select European wheat.” [...] A press release dated
    September 20, 2011 said that the two sides “have come to an agreement
    to allow Pixel to exclusively manufacture, market, sell and distribute
    Trump branded vodka and energy drinks for the Israeli and the
    Palestinian Authority market.” [...]

    Despite the auspicious start, five years later, when contacted, Pixel
    CEO Avi Eliyahu said he is no longer producing Trump Vodka and does
    not wish to speak to the press.

    Yossi Hertzberg, a former business associate of Eliyahu, told The
    Times of Israel that the contract with Trump ended a year and a half
    ago and was not renewed. But it will still be in the stores here ahead
    of next month’s Passover. “What you see coming into the stores is the
    inventory that’s left over,” Hertzberg explained.

    Full article at http://www.timesofisrael.com/unloved-elsewhere-heres-how-trump-vodka-immigrated-to-israel-and-lives-on/
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    Carmel makes a very decent KLP vodka from molasses. I buy Polish
    potato vodka (Luksusowa) during the year so as not to worry about
    getting rid of it for Pesakh. It's pretty good. Some undoubtedly
    Russian-origin company makes Peisachovka raisin-flavored KLP vodka in
    Israel.
    http://sobiraloff.ru/upload/527259/7f99d009.jpg

    (Not to be confused with the Ukranian version: http://alcorecept.com/assets/img/post/4/peisahovka.JPG )

    As for gimmicks, some undoubtedly Jewish-origin company (OK, it's
    Kaufmann) makes Jewish Standard matza-flavored vodka in Russia. http://winestyle.ru/product_images_new/d/31184_m__15173_orig.jpg
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  • From Beach Runner@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 18 18:53:15 2016
    Donald Trump in St. Louis last week. (AP Photo/Seth Perlman)

    -- A group of 40 rabbis announced plans to boycott Trump's AIPAC speech on Monday. "The planned demonstration signals a growing unease among many Jewish leaders about Trump's populist campaign, and comes as members of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a
    group of major GOP donors, is expected to debate how to deal with Trump during its annual meeting next month in Las Vegas," Rosalind S. Helderman reports. "Jeffrey Salkin, a Hollywood, Fla., rabbi, said he was alarmed about Trump's behavior and rhetoric
    on the campaign trail. 'Jewish history teaches that when hatred is unleashed, it takes on a life of its own.'"

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  • From (PeteCresswell)@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 20 04:36:18 2016
    Per Beach Runner:
    -- A group of 40 rabbis announced plans to boycott Trump's AIPAC speech on Monday.
    "The planned demonstration signals a growing unease among many Jewish leaders about Trump's populist campaign, and comes as members of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a group of major GOP donors, is expected to debate how to deal with Trump during its
    annual meeting next month in Las Vegas," Rosalind S. Helderman reports. "Jeffrey Salkin, a Hollywood, Fla., rabbi, said he was alarmed about Trump's behavior and rhetoric on the campaign trail. 'Jewish history teaches that when hatred is unleashed, it
    takes on a life of its own.'"

    Did anybody else see the interviews that PBS News Hour did with a few
    Trump supporters a couple of days ago ?

    I think one family's name was "Tilly".

    One of the woman's tattoos was the Celtic cross (Odin's Cross) which
    seems to be widely used by white supremacists viz: http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/celtic-cross.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

    Another tattoo was "88"... H being the 8th letter of the alphabet... and
    "88" tattoos are, AFIK, jailhouse tattoos used by white supremacists.

    So..... I guess Trump has the white supremacist vote pretty much sewn
    up... -)
    --
    Pete Cresswell

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  • From mm@21:1/5 to x@y.Invalid on Sun Mar 20 14:16:58 2016
    On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 04:36:18 +0000 (UTC), "(PeteCresswell)"
    <x@y.Invalid> wrote:

    Per Beach Runner:
    -- A group of 40 rabbis announced plans to boycott Trump's AIPAC speech on Monday.
    "The planned demonstration signals a growing unease among many Jewish leaders about Trump's populist campaign, and comes as members of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a group of major GOP donors, is expected to debate how to deal with Trump during its
    annual meeting next month in Las Vegas," Rosalind S. Helderman reports. "Jeffrey Salkin, a Hollywood, Fla., rabbi, said he was alarmed about Trump's behavior and rhetoric on the campaign trail. 'Jewish history teaches that when hatred is unleashed, it
    takes on a life of its own.'"

    Did anybody else see the interviews that PBS News Hour did with a few
    Trump supporters a couple of days ago ?

    No, but while I was waiting for your image of a Celtic cross to load,
    I went looking for another image and noticed this. http://gawker.com/pbs-news-story-on-first-time-trump-voters-prominently-f-1765284316
    At first I thought it was the very story, because it starts off "pbs
    new story..." but it's a story about the story. I think you could
    have written it. Are you the gawker?

    And this page, just before the comments start, linnks to this page: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/all-in-for-trump-inside-a-north-carolina-military-familys-gop-politics/
    Which says:
    "....Regrettably, none of us at the NewsHour recognized the questions
    that could arise from Grace Tilly’s tattoos, and we didn’t raise them
    with her until after the report aired. At that point, our producer
    contacted Ms. Tilly and she insisted the tattoos are religious in
    nature and have nothing to do with a neo-Nazi theme or white
    supremacy.

    We referenced her comments in an editor’s note, posted on our website.

    Many of our online commenters have since let us know they reject that explanation. We’re now posting this note as a follow up.

    We at the NewsHour remain committed to being as transparent as
    possible in covering this election....."

    I think one family's name was "Tilly".

    One of the woman's tattoos was the Celtic cross (Odin's Cross) which
    seems to be widely used by white supremacists viz: >http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/celtic-cross.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

    Another tattoo was "88"... H being the 8th letter of the alphabet... and
    "88" tattoos are, AFIK, jailhouse tattoos used by white supremacists.

    I'm glad you mention these things. It will help me be careful when I
    meet women.

    So..... I guess Trump has the white supremacist vote pretty much sewn
    up... -)

    I think so.

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  • From (PeteCresswell)@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 20 20:11:59 2016
    Per mm:
    I think you could
    have written it. Are you the gawker?

    Maybe in my dreams.... -)

    Full disclosure: I did not come up with this myself. Instead I saw
    PBS's embarrassed sort-of-apology a couple of days later and started
    Googling.

    Truthfully, I would have to cut PBS a lot of slack on this because,
    IMHO, reasonable, normal people don't know about these things.
    --
    Pete Cresswell

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  • From (PeteCresswell)@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 21 00:01:25 2016
    Per (PeteCresswell):
    IMHO, reasonable, normal people don't know about these things.

    If you really want to get down and dirty on this stuffGoogle "Jailhouse Tattoo". Start with Images and then read the WikiPedia article
    at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_tattooing
    --
    Pete Cresswell

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  • From mm@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 21 00:01:12 2016
    On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 14:16:58 +0000 (UTC), mm <mm2005@bigfoot.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 04:36:18 +0000 (UTC), "(PeteCresswell)"
    <x@y.Invalid> wrote:

    Per Beach Runner:
    -- A group of 40 rabbis announced plans to boycott Trump's AIPAC speech on Monday.
    "The planned demonstration signals a growing unease among many Jewish leaders about Trump's populist campaign, and comes as members of the Republican Jewish Coalition, a group of major GOP donors, is expected to debate how to deal with Trump during
    its annual meeting next month in Las Vegas," Rosalind S. Helderman reports. "Jeffrey Salkin, a Hollywood, Fla., rabbi, said he was alarmed about Trump's behavior and rhetoric on the campaign trail. 'Jewish history teaches that when hatred is unleashed,
    it takes on a life of its own.'"

    Did anybody else see the interviews that PBS News Hour did with a few
    Trump supporters a couple of days ago ?

    No, but while I was waiting for your image of a Celtic cross to load,
    I went looking for another image and noticed this. >http://gawker.com/pbs-news-story-on-first-time-trump-voters-prominently-f-1765284316
    At first I thought it was the very story, because it starts off "pbs
    new story..." but it's a story about the story. I think you could
    have written it. Are you the gawker?

    And this page, just before the comments start, linnks to this page: >http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/all-in-for-trump-inside-a-north-carolina-military-familys-gop-politics/
    Which says:
    "....Regrettably, none of us at the NewsHour recognized the questions
    that could arise from Grace Tilly’s tattoos, and we didn’t raise them
    with her until after the report aired. At that point, our producer
    contacted Ms. Tilly and she insisted the tattoos are religious in
    nature and have nothing to do with a neo-Nazi theme or white
    supremacy.

    To comment on this some more: It's worth noting, I think, that even a
    young woman with neo-nazi and white supremicist tattoos, like the
    Celtic Cross and the 88 still denies that she is what she is, because
    unless one is among his own dynamically racist kind, it is no longer
    acceptable in America to admit to being racist. And she knows it,
    as does almost everyone.

    How much more so would the people of Boston, in one of the most
    liberal states in the country, in a professional business where just
    about everyone would scorn someone who made racist remarks, where as
    far as anyone knows all of management is extremely anti-racist, and
    where he might even be fired and would surely have trouble getting a
    promotion if he expressed racist ideas, even if they were sincerely
    held, moderate in their racism, and well thought out.

    There is plenty of racism in the US, including by people who are never
    rude to black people, who sincerely want the best for them, but still
    hold inaccurate negative ideas about almost all of them, based on a
    few of them. Even when they don't even know it themselves.
    Antisemitism didn't end in Europe or Russia, or the US, just because
    it was acknowledged as wrong, and racism hasn't either.

    Meir


    We referenced her comments in an editor’s note, posted on our website.

    Many of our online commenters have since let us know they reject that >explanation. We’re now posting this note as a follow up.

    We at the NewsHour remain committed to being as transparent as
    possible in covering this election....."

    I think one family's name was "Tilly".

    One of the woman's tattoos was the Celtic cross (Odin's Cross) which
    seems to be widely used by white supremacists viz: >>http://www.adl.org/combating-hate/hate-on-display/c/celtic-cross.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

    Another tattoo was "88"... H being the 8th letter of the alphabet... and >>"88" tattoos are, AFIK, jailhouse tattoos used by white supremacists.

    I'm glad you mention these things. It will help me be careful when I
    meet women.

    So..... I guess Trump has the white supremacist vote pretty much sewn
    up... -)

    I think so.

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