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On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 7:14:45 PM UTC+2, ltlee1 wrote:

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Would they let Ukraine to become part of the USA
for 50 or X years?

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On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:14:45 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:

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Ask Ukrainians to vote for one issue:

Would they let Ukraine to become part of the USA
for 50 or X years?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/if-russia-wins/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
If Russia Wins
...
Of late, the same Laputan foreign policy establishment, a.k.a. the blob, has rallied around the idea that Ukraine must win its war with Russia. President Biden said so in Poland. Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell declared Ukrainian victory a “
core interest” of the United States. Why? Is Cleveland unable to make enough pierogies to supply the rest of the country? Has the EPA announced that as of 2025 all cars must run on borscht? Where do all these commitments to a Ukrainian victory leave us
if Russia wins?

As Cato’s Ted Galen Carpenter argued in the March/April issue of The American Conservative, that is not an unlikely outcome. Despite the poor performance of its army, Russia is simply a larger and stronger country. In a war of attrition, Ukraine will
run out of manpower before Russia does. Carpenter quoted two establishment figures, Robert M. Gates and Condoleezza Rice, as saying in the Washington Post, “Although Ukraine’s response to the invasion has been heroic and its military has performed
brilliantly, the country’s economy is in a shambles, millions of its people have fled, its infrastructure is being destroyed, and much of its mineral wealth, industrial capacity and considerable agricultural land are under Russian control.”

No military historian can consider the war in Ukraine and not hear echoes of Germany’s situation on the Eastern Front in World War II. Most Ukrainian units perform much better than their Russian counterparts, just as the Germans did. Now, Western
supplied Ukrainian tanks and other equipment are qualitatively superior to what the Russians have; then, one German Panther or Tiger tank was more capable than a single Russian T-34. But Germany did not have the quantities of people or tanks to stem an
ever-swelling Russian tide. While the Wehrmacht was superior in campaigns of maneuver, at least up to 1944, Germany could not win a war of attrition against the Soviet Union.
...
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Making Ukraine part of the US would bring peace to Europe immediately.
Adding 20+ million of white Ukrainians to the union would also contribute to US racial balance.

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On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 1:14:45 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

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Ask Ukrainians to vote for one issue:

Would they let Ukraine to become part of the USA
for 50 or X years?

"Two hundred years ago, Thomas Jefferson, co-author of the Declaration of Independence, expressed a desire to make the island of Cuba part of the territory of the United States. Albert J. Beveridge, a senator from Indiana, reproduced Jefferson’s words
in a 1901 article: “Her [Cuba’s] addition to our confederacy is exactly what is wanting to advance our power as a nation to the point of its utmost interest.’” However, it was John Quincy Adams, then secretary of state to President James Monroe,
who argued most forcefully for annexing Cuba, still a Spanish colony in 1823 and virtually the only one Spain retained after the wave of successful Latin American struggles for independence that began thirteen years earlier.
...
In what has come to be known as his “ripe fruit” theory, Adams wrote in the same letter, “If an apple, severed by the tempest from its native tree, cannot but fall to the ground, Cuba, forcibly disjointed from its own unnatural connection with
Spain and incapable of self-support, can gravitate only towards the North American Union, which by the same law of nature cannot cast her from its bosom.”"

https://daily.jstor.org/cuba-annexation-nation/

America's success story from a SETTLER COLONY to a superpower is to a large part through annexation.
It could not and certainly cannot annex CUBA now. However, Ukraine is ripe, at least, for "flexible annexation. "
The goal is to enlarge territory but to gain GO style "shi".

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On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:14:45 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:

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Ask Ukrainians to vote for one issue:

Would they let Ukraine to become part of the USA
for 50 or X years?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/if-russia-wins/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
If Russia Wins
...
Of late, the same Laputan foreign policy establishment, a.k.a. the blob, has rallied around the idea that Ukraine must win its war with Russia. President Biden said so in Poland. Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell declared Ukrainian victory a “

core interest” of the United States. Why? Is Cleveland unable to make enough pierogies to supply the rest of the country? Has the EPA announced that as of 2025 all cars must run on borscht? Where do all these commitments to a Ukrainian victory leave us
if Russia wins?

As Cato’s Ted Galen Carpenter argued in the March/April issue of The American Conservative, that is not an unlikely outcome. Despite the poor performance of its army, Russia is simply a larger and stronger country. In a war of attrition, Ukraine will

run out of manpower before Russia does. Carpenter quoted two establishment figures, Robert M. Gates and Condoleezza Rice, as saying in the Washington Post, “Although Ukraine’s response to the invasion has been heroic and its military has performed
brilliantly, the country’s economy is in a shambles, millions of its people have fled, its infrastructure is being destroyed, and much of its mineral wealth, industrial capacity and considerable agricultural land are under Russian control.”

No military historian can consider the war in Ukraine and not hear echoes of Germany’s situation on the Eastern Front in World War II. Most Ukrainian units perform much better than their Russian counterparts, just as the Germans did. Now, Western

supplied Ukrainian tanks and other equipment are qualitatively superior to what the Russians have; then, one German Panther or Tiger tank was more capable than a single Russian T-34. But Germany did not have the quantities of people or tanks to stem an
ever-swelling Russian tide. While the Wehrmacht was superior in campaigns of maneuver, at least up to 1944, Germany could not win a war of attrition against the Soviet Union.

...
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Making Ukraine part of the US would bring peace to Europe immediately. Adding 20+ million of white Ukrainians to the union would also contribute to US racial balance.

"All the great conflicts of the modern era have been contests over Eurasia, where dueling coalitions
have clashed for dominance of that supercontinent and its surrounding oceans. Indeed, the American
Century has been the Eurasian Century: Washington’s vital task as a superpower has been keeping the
world in balance by keeping Eurasia divided. Now the United States is again leading a coalition of
democratic allies on Eurasia’s margins against a group of centrally located rivals—while crucial swing
states maneuver for advantage.

Countries such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and India have a critical role in this era of rivalry, thanks to the
geography they occupy and the clout they wield. In many cases, these powers are determined to play both
sides. Containing the Eurasian challenge will involve strengthening the bonds within and between the
United States’ alliance networks. Yet what makes the current moment so daunting is that opportunistic
swing states will also shape the fight between Fortress Eurasia and the free world."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/04/russia-china-us-geopolitics-eurasia-strategy/

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On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 4:22:48 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:14:45 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:

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Ask Ukrainians to vote for one issue:

Would they let Ukraine to become part of the USA
for 50 or X years?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/if-russia-wins/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If Russia Wins
...
Of late, the same Laputan foreign policy establishment, a.k.a. the blob, has rallied around the idea that Ukraine must win its war with Russia. President Biden said so in Poland. Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell declared Ukrainian victory a �

�core interest” of the United States. Why? Is Cleveland unable to make enough pierogies to supply the rest of the country? Has the EPA announced that as of 2025 all cars must run on borscht? Where do all these commitments to a Ukrainian victory leave
us if Russia wins?

As Cato’s Ted Galen Carpenter argued in the March/April issue of The American Conservative, that is not an unlikely outcome. Despite the poor performance of its army, Russia is simply a larger and stronger country. In a war of attrition, Ukraine

will run out of manpower before Russia does. Carpenter quoted two establishment figures, Robert M. Gates and Condoleezza Rice, as saying in the Washington Post, “Although Ukraine’s response to the invasion has been heroic and its military has
performed brilliantly, the country’s economy is in a shambles, millions of its people have fled, its infrastructure is being destroyed, and much of its mineral wealth, industrial capacity and considerable agricultural land are under Russian control.”

No military historian can consider the war in Ukraine and not hear echoes of Germany’s situation on the Eastern Front in World War II. Most Ukrainian units perform much better than their Russian counterparts, just as the Germans did. Now, Western

supplied Ukrainian tanks and other equipment are qualitatively superior to what the Russians have; then, one German Panther or Tiger tank was more capable than a single Russian T-34. But Germany did not have the quantities of people or tanks to stem an
ever-swelling Russian tide. While the Wehrmacht was superior in campaigns of maneuver, at least up to 1944, Germany could not win a war of attrition against the Soviet Union.

... ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Making Ukraine part of the US would bring peace to Europe immediately. Adding 20+ million of white Ukrainians to the union would also contribute to US racial balance.

"All the great conflicts of the modern era have been contests over Eurasia, where dueling coalitions
have clashed for dominance of that supercontinent and its surrounding oceans. Indeed, the American
Century has been the Eurasian Century: Washington’s vital task as a superpower has been keeping the
world in balance by keeping Eurasia divided. Now the United States is again leading a coalition of
democratic allies on Eurasia’s margins against a group of centrally located rivals—while crucial swing
states maneuver for advantage.

Countries such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and India have a critical role in this era of rivalry, thanks to the
geography they occupy and the clout they wield. In many cases, these powers are determined to play both
sides. Containing the Eurasian challenge will involve strengthening the bonds within and between the
United States’ alliance networks. Yet what makes the current moment so daunting is that opportunistic
swing states will also shape the fight between Fortress Eurasia and the free world."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/04/russia-china-us-geopolitics-eurasia-strategy/

Last 2 days:
Russia-Ukraine war may last decades, ex-president says: ‘West will eventually…’
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/dmitry-medvedev-russia-ukraine-war-may-last-decades-ex-president-says-west-will-eventually-101692546847723.html

"Russia's possession of nuclear arms is response to threats, Lavrov says" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-possession-nuclear-arms-is-response-threats-lavrov-says-2023-08-18/

As Ukraine's counteroffensive is failing, Russia is toughening up its negotiation posture.

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On Sunday, August 20, 2023 at 8:27:06 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 4:22:48 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 5:01:02 PM UTC-4, ltlee1 wrote:

On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 5:14:45 PM UTC, ltlee1 wrote:

************************************************
Ask Ukrainians to vote for one issue:

Would they let Ukraine to become part of the USA
for 50 or X years?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/if-russia-wins/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If Russia Wins
...
Of late, the same Laputan foreign policy establishment, a.k.a. the blob, has rallied around the idea that Ukraine must win its war with Russia. President Biden said so in Poland. Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell declared Ukrainian victory a

“core interest” of the United States. Why? Is Cleveland unable to make enough pierogies to supply the rest of the country? Has the EPA announced that as of 2025 all cars must run on borscht? Where do all these commitments to a Ukrainian victory leave
us if Russia wins?

As Cato’s Ted Galen Carpenter argued in the March/April issue of The American Conservative, that is not an unlikely outcome. Despite the poor performance of its army, Russia is simply a larger and stronger country. In a war of attrition, Ukraine

will run out of manpower before Russia does. Carpenter quoted two establishment figures, Robert M. Gates and Condoleezza Rice, as saying in the Washington Post, “Although Ukraine’s response to the invasion has been heroic and its military has
performed brilliantly, the country’s economy is in a shambles, millions of its people have fled, its infrastructure is being destroyed, and much of its mineral wealth, industrial capacity and considerable agricultural land are under Russian control.”

No military historian can consider the war in Ukraine and not hear echoes of Germany’s situation on the Eastern Front in World War II. Most Ukrainian units perform much better than their Russian counterparts, just as the Germans did. Now, Western

supplied Ukrainian tanks and other equipment are qualitatively superior to what the Russians have; then, one German Panther or Tiger tank was more capable than a single Russian T-34. But Germany did not have the quantities of people or tanks to stem an
ever-swelling Russian tide. While the Wehrmacht was superior in campaigns of maneuver, at least up to 1944, Germany could not win a war of attrition against the Soviet Union.

... ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Making Ukraine part of the US would bring peace to Europe immediately. Adding 20+ million of white Ukrainians to the union would also contribute to US racial balance.

"All the great conflicts of the modern era have been contests over Eurasia, where dueling coalitions
have clashed for dominance of that supercontinent and its surrounding oceans. Indeed, the American
Century has been the Eurasian Century: Washington’s vital task as a superpower has been keeping the
world in balance by keeping Eurasia divided. Now the United States is again leading a coalition of
democratic allies on Eurasia’s margins against a group of centrally located rivals—while crucial swing
states maneuver for advantage.

Countries such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and India have a critical role in this era of rivalry, thanks to the
geography they occupy and the clout they wield. In many cases, these powers are determined to play both
sides. Containing the Eurasian challenge will involve strengthening the bonds within and between the
United States’ alliance networks. Yet what makes the current moment so daunting is that opportunistic
swing states will also shape the fight between Fortress Eurasia and the free world."

https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/06/04/russia-china-us-geopolitics-eurasia-strategy/

Last 2 days:
Russia-Ukraine war may last decades, ex-president says: ‘West will eventually…’
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/dmitry-medvedev-russia-ukraine-war-may-last-decades-ex-president-says-west-will-eventually-101692546847723.html

"Russia's possession of nuclear arms is response to threats, Lavrov says" https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russias-possession-nuclear-arms-is-response-threats-lavrov-says-2023-08-18/

As Ukraine's counteroffensive is failing, Russia is toughening up its negotiation posture.

Tucker Carlson Talks To Colonel Douglas Macgregor About The Ukraine War. According to Macgregor, Ukraine has a bleak future. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMUAaWK79Vc

Carlson seems to buy the narrative and predicts that the US would eventually send US
troops to fight the Russians.

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