• =?utf-8?Q?China=E2=80=99s?= Xi arrives in Moscow for first visit since

    From A. Filip@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 13:43:53 2023
    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/20/europe/xi-putin-china-russia-visit-monday-intl-hnk/index.html
    China’s Xi arrives in Moscow for first visit since Russia invaded
    Ukraine ; Updated 7:02 AM EDT, Mon March 20, 2023

    In practices the timing makes it a "slightly" reluctant support for the invasion IMHO.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to A. Filip on Mon Mar 20 08:21:18 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:43:55 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/20/europe/xi-putin-china-russia-visit-monday-intl-hnk/index.html
    China’s Xi arrives in Moscow for first visit since Russia invaded Ukraine ; Updated 7:02 AM EDT, Mon March 20, 2023

    In practices the timing makes it a "slightly" reluctant support for the invasion IMHO.

    Whatever.
    The three active players are facing a "chicken rib" situation. Xi is trying to find a face-saving out for them. The world will also welcome peace. But
    Xi certainly has a difficult job cut out for him.

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Mon Mar 20 22:37:37 2023
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:43:55 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/20/europe/xi-putin-china-russia-visit-monday-intl-hnk/index.html
    China’s Xi arrives in Moscow for first visit since Russia invaded
    Ukraine ; Updated 7:02 AM EDT, Mon March 20, 2023

    In practices the timing makes it a "slightly" reluctant support for the
    invasion IMHO.

    Whatever.
    The three active players are facing a "chicken rib" situation. Xi is trying to
    find a face-saving out for them. The world will also welcome peace. But
    Xi certainly has a difficult job cut out for him.

    Nothing is too hard for Xi. President for life is the best.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to A. Filip on Mon Mar 20 16:05:56 2023
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:38:29 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:43:55 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/20/europe/xi-putin-china-russia-visit-monday-intl-hnk/index.html
    China’s Xi arrives in Moscow for first visit since Russia invaded
    Ukraine ; Updated 7:02 AM EDT, Mon March 20, 2023

    In practices the timing makes it a "slightly" reluctant support for the >> invasion IMHO.

    Whatever.
    The three active players are facing a "chicken rib" situation. Xi is trying to
    find a face-saving out for them. The world will also welcome peace. But
    Xi certainly has a difficult job cut out for him.

    Nothing is too hard for Xi. President for life is the best.

    Don't know what you mean by describing Xi as President for life?
    Can you really see the future?
    Or are you arrogating yourself above all Chinese people such that your
    say so will eventually turned true no matter how the Chinese think?

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 21 07:42:53 2023
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:38:29 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    ltlee1 wrote:
    On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:43:55 PM UTC, A. Filip wrote:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/20/europe/xi-putin-china-russia-visit-monday-intl-hnk/index.html
    China’s Xi arrives in Moscow for first visit since Russia invaded
    Ukraine ; Updated 7:02 AM EDT, Mon March 20, 2023

    In practices the timing makes it a "slightly" reluctant support for the >> >> invasion IMHO.

    Whatever.
    The three active players are facing a "chicken rib" situation. Xi is trying to
    find a face-saving out for them. The world will also welcome peace. But
    Xi certainly has a difficult job cut out for him.

    Nothing is too hard for Xi. President for life is the best.

    Don't know what you mean by describing Xi as President for life?
    Can you really see the future?

    Formally President Xi is "president for lifer" more than even Putin [A][B]. Putin "resets" the limits. Formally you are right. Practice "may be" different. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
    You are hoping. I am preparing for Chinese Lukashenko [C]

    Or are you arrogating yourself above all Chinese people such that your
    say so will eventually turned true no matter how the Chinese think?

    For me it merely not learning on USA mistakes/fixes. USA introduced
    (formal constitutional) limit on number of USA president terms
    *after four terms* of president Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D).
    FDR was a great president, wasn't he? But somehow once was enough.
    It is about mechanism of using power to stay in power, using *too much*.

    <irony> I am ready to praise dynasty of Red Emperor Xi. </irony>

    [A] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xi_Jinping
    removal of term limits for the presidency in 2018
    [B] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
    (born 7 October 1952) […]
    He was reelected in 2004. Because he was constitutionally limited to
    two consecutive terms as president, Putin served as prime minister
    again from 2008 to 2012 under Dmitry Medvedev. He returned to the
    presidency in 2012, […] was reelected in 2018. In April 2021, after a referendum, he signed into law constitutional amendments including one
    that would allow him to run for reelection twice more, potentially
    extending his presidency to 2036.[8][9]
    [C] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Lukashenko

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  • From A. Filip@21:1/5 to ltlee1@hotmail.com on Tue Mar 28 15:13:33 2023
    ltlee1 <ltlee1@hotmail.com> wrote:
    […] https://asiatimes.com/2023/03/why-ukraine-may-embrace-chinas-peace-plan/

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    Why Ukraine may embrace China’s peace plan
    Recent private conference of top US foreign policy experts saw Ukraine
    at risk of losing a war of attrition despite West’s best efforts by Spengler

    "A gloomy assessment of Ukraine’s prospects for victory against Russia emerged from a recent private gathering of former top US soldiers, intelligence officials and scholars with resumes reaching from the
    Reagan to the Trump administrations.

    Short of trained personnel and ammunition, one speaker argued,
    Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky might consider a Chinese peace
    plan, especially after Beijing’s successful mediation of the
    Iran-Saudi dispute.
    […]

    Less grand goal may be to make Russia derail "the peace plan" by PRC.
    It may make PRC-Russia relations "less warm".

    IMHO calling it "PEACE plan" is counter productive.
    IMHO Ukraine *may* agree to something called "cessation of hostilities"
    but be VERY reluctant to call it (implied permanent) peace without
    getting control of East Ukraine back.

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