• Re: A (3/3)

    From dosai prata@21:1/5 to gerard jud on Mon Mar 13 07:20:21 2023
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    In Singapore, if a survey were to be made among the non-Chinese with the question "Is it OK to be Chinese?", percentage of those who answer "No" would probably be higher, especially among the Indians. As more non-Chinese migrants are accepted into
    Singapore in the name of diversity and inclusiveness, this percentage will increase. If the Chinese are not careful, they will end up like the Whites-majority in the US.

    One People, increasing the racial diversity and inclusiveness, these are confusing and contradictory. They are ruses by the racial minorities to first reduce and finally eliminate and eradicate the Chinese-majority. This will not happen without open
    racial conflicts. Instead of "One People, One Nation, One Singapore", it will be one bloody mess.

    This is not about identity politics or tribalism. It's about realism. Going forward, Singapore should discard unrealistic ideal such as One People.

    The best way forward for Singapore is to maintain its multi-racialism under Chinese-majority rule.

    English-language media is showing its pro-Indian stance again.

    No big story when this DBS CEO admitted that he invested Singapore's money in India based on racial sentiment. Now they report prominently about how well he is doing.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/business/dbs-ceo-piyush-gupta-pay-climbs-bank-profit-soars-3336081


    DBS carries the name of Singapore. As long as Singapore is doing well, it will do well. This Indian CEO of DBS is riding on the good reputation of Singapore, not because he is exceptionally capable. Someone else as CEO could have done better.

    What the public would like to know is during his tenure, by how much has the proportion of Indian staffs in DBS increase and how many of them are directly recruited from India.


    He was a failed businessman before he became DBS CEO. His recruitment itself is an example of minority racism. The two CEOs before him were non-Indians. They, especially the Chinese Jackson Tai, faced a lot of criticism from the English-language media.
    After he, an Indian, took over, the noises were all gone. This type of racism was played out on other Chinese office bearers.

    Chinese MPs and Ministers often face criticisms. Indian ones are praised. They are identified as the potential next PM. Examples, Tharman and Shanmugam.

    This goes all the way up to the President. When Chinese Ong Teng Cheong was President he was often criticised and egged on to challenge the Government. He did and became a one term President. When an Indian SR Nathan was President, everything quietened
    down. He was able to serve two terms.

    Such collective racism from the racial minorities is not noticed by the English-language media. But media like Channel News Aneh frequently produces programs that highlight the slightest perceived racism faced by some Indian individuals in renting
    rooms or applying for jobs.

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  • From gerard jud@21:1/5 to gerard jud on Thu Mar 23 23:03:47 2023
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    In Singapore, if a survey were to be made among the non-Chinese with the question "Is it OK to be Chinese?", percentage of those who answer "No" would probably be higher, especially among the Indians. As more non-Chinese migrants are accepted into
    Singapore in the name of diversity and inclusiveness, this percentage will increase. If the Chinese are not careful, they will end up like the Whites-majority in the US.

    One People, increasing the racial diversity and inclusiveness, these are confusing and contradictory. They are ruses by the racial minorities to first reduce and finally eliminate and eradicate the Chinese-majority. This will not happen without open
    racial conflicts. Instead of "One People, One Nation, One Singapore", it will be one bloody mess.

    This is not about identity politics or tribalism. It's about realism. Going forward, Singapore should discard unrealistic ideal such as One People.

    The best way forward for Singapore is to maintain its multi-racialism under Chinese-majority rule.

    The substantial Chinese-majority in Singapore is a pain in the arses of its racial minorities. These minorities frequently complain about Chinese privileges and cry as victims at the slightest perceived racism from the Chinese. They should look at
    countries where their own race dominate. The Malays should look at the non-Malays in Malaysia and Indonesia, the Indians should look at the non-Indians in the North-eastern states of India. If they do, they will realise how fortunate they are to be the
    racial minorities in a Chinese-majority Singapore.

    Yet these minorities seek to nullify, equalise and finally eradicate and eliminate the lopsided racial composition in Singapore. They espouse theories of racial equality, race-blindness, Singaporeans Singapore, One People, etc.. Many gullible fools
    among the Chinese blindly go along with them. They should be careful with their idealistic and wishful thinking. Or their future generations will suffer for it. Those racial minorities who easily cry as victims of racism today will themselves become
    worse perpetrators of racism tomorrow if and when they come to power. Those who feel sorry for them today will be felt sorry by them tomorrow.

    Look at what’s happening to the Whites-majority in the US. The Whites there are facing so much antagonism that they have to assert that it’s OK to be White. In response, the Blacks make a survey to find out how many Blacks think that it’s OK to be
    Whites. The answer is not good for the Whites. On the ground, Whites are experiencing reverse racism from the Blacks.

    Its worse for the Whites in South Africa. When it was under Whites-minority rule, the Blacks were victims of racism. Since South Africa came under Blacks-majority rule, the Blacks are proving to be more racist towards the Whites. Due to racial
    discrimination, many Whites have become the underclass, forming the jobless and squatters. That’s not enough for the Blacks. They want to take over all assets of all the Whites there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn5c1sy40Tk

    The Whites in South Africa are in such a pitiful state that even the Blacks feel sorry for them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj84Sw1x2po

    If it’s bad for the Whites in South Africa, it’s worse for those in Zimbabwe.

    These are valuable lessons for the Chinese in Singapore. They are heading for that way too if they are not wary of those racial minorities who espouse race theories with the interests of their own race in mind. These racial ideals will take a long time
    to realise, if at all. In the process, the nation risks being wrecked by racial conflicts.

    Instead of wasting precious national resources and taking unnecessary risks to pursue unrealistic racial goals for the nation, Singapore should accept its multi-racialism with Chinese-majority rule. This should be taught in schools. It should be
    depicted in every international event held in Singapore and celebrated on every National Day.

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  • From papa dumdum@21:1/5 to gerard jud on Fri Mar 31 23:04:14 2023
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    In a recent Ramussen survey carried out among the Blacks, 26% disagree that it is OK to be White.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4CJ8nV-myE

    A renowned White cartoonist Scott Adams called this out as extreme racism. Some years back, he had identified himself as Black. But this survey has jolted him back to reality. He has decided to re-identify himself as White. He reveals how Whites have
    become victims of reverse racism from the Blacks, being beaten daily by the Blacks.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSMhg6udxn4
    For this, he has received brickbats and bouquets. There are those who consider him a hero and those who label him a racist and bigot.


    In Singapore, if a survey were to be made among the non-Chinese with the question "Is it OK to be Chinese?", percentage of those who answer "No" would probably be higher, especially among the Indians. As more non-Chinese migrants are accepted into
    Singapore in the name of diversity and inclusiveness, this percentage will increase. If the Chinese are not careful, they will end up like the Whites-majority in the US.

    One People, increasing the racial diversity and inclusiveness, these are confusing and contradictory. They are ruses by the racial minorities to first reduce and finally eliminate and eradicate the Chinese-majority. This will not happen without open
    racial conflicts. Instead of "One People, One Nation, One Singapore", it will be one bloody mess.

    This is not about identity politics or tribalism. It's about realism. Going forward, Singapore should discard unrealistic ideal such as One People.

    The best way forward for Singapore is to maintain its multi-racialism under Chinese-majority rule.
    The substantial Chinese-majority in Singapore is a pain in the arses of its racial minorities. These minorities frequently complain about Chinese privileges and cry as victims at the slightest perceived racism from the Chinese. They should look at
    countries where their own race dominate. The Malays should look at the non-Malays in Malaysia and Indonesia, the Indians should look at the non-Indians in the North-eastern states of India. If they do, they will realise how fortunate they are to be the
    racial minorities in a Chinese-majority Singapore.

    Yet these minorities seek to nullify, equalise and finally eradicate and eliminate the lopsided racial composition in Singapore. They espouse theories of racial equality, race-blindness, Singaporeans Singapore, One People, etc.. Many gullible fools
    among the Chinese blindly go along with them. They should be careful with their idealistic and wishful thinking. Or their future generations will suffer for it. Those racial minorities who easily cry as victims of racism today will themselves become
    worse perpetrators of racism tomorrow if and when they come to power. Those who feel sorry for them today will be felt sorry by them tomorrow.

    Look at what’s happening to the Whites-majority in the US. The Whites there are facing so much antagonism that they have to assert that it’s OK to be White. In response, the Blacks make a survey to find out how many Blacks think that it’s OK to
    be Whites. The answer is not good for the Whites. On the ground, Whites are experiencing reverse racism from the Blacks.

    Its worse for the Whites in South Africa. When it was under Whites-minority rule, the Blacks were victims of racism. Since South Africa came under Blacks-majority rule, the Blacks are proving to be more racist towards the Whites. Due to racial
    discrimination, many Whites have become the underclass, forming the jobless and squatters. That’s not enough for the Blacks. They want to take over all assets of all the Whites there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn5c1sy40Tk

    The Whites in South Africa are in such a pitiful state that even the Blacks feel sorry for them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj84Sw1x2po

    If it’s bad for the Whites in South Africa, it’s worse for those in Zimbabwe.

    These are valuable lessons for the Chinese in Singapore. They are heading for that way too if they are not wary of those racial minorities who espouse race theories with the interests of their own race in mind. These racial ideals will take a long time
    to realise, if at all. In the process, the nation risks being wrecked by racial conflicts.

    Instead of wasting precious national resources and taking unnecessary risks to pursue unrealistic racial goals for the nation, Singapore should accept its multi-racialism with Chinese-majority rule. This should be taught in schools. It should be
    depicted in every international event held in Singapore and celebrated on every National Day.

    Singapore-China relationship to be elevated.

    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/singapore-china-relations-is-a-model-for-countries-in-the-region-xi-jinping

    Singapore’s PM Lee Hsien Loong is leading a team on a state visit to China. Because the team includes non-Chinese officials who speaks only English, besides some initial personal greetings, all official meetings between the visitors and the Chinese are
    conducted in English.

    How far can Singapore go with China? Just a little closer, those racists among the racial minorities would go fear-mongering about Singapore becoming the Third China or Chinapore and they becoming second-class citizens. Then the government will back-
    pedal to appease them.

    Because of this, Singapore is losing out, especially in the area of technology. It has to choose non-Chinese 5G wireless communication system even though Chinese 5G is the most developed . It may have to go for non-Chinese Electric Vehicle even though
    the Chinese is way ahead of the competitions in this field.
    This is being repeated in space technology. While China’s achievements in space are much more impressive than those of India, Singapore’s satellites are being launched by Indian rather than Chinese rockets. This is extending to the new generation of
    Singaporeans with aspirations to work in the field of space. Young Singaporeans are being sent as interns to India’s space technology institutions.

    As long as Singapore prides itself as an English-speaking nation, it will always get along better with India than China. It will choose to co-operate with India more than China.

    Singapore may become like Western countries where only Chinese money, not the people, are loved. In this case, Singapore will only welcome Chinese tourists but not Chinese technology.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to papa dumdum on Sat Apr 1 04:39:48 2023
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    One People is so unrealistic for a Singapore of multiple races and religions. Look at the religious differences. Utensils used in public eating places have to be separately collected and washed for Muslims and non-Muslims. Muslims want their
    females to wear their Muslim headdress in all places and at all time, in public. These are non-negotiable and reconcilable differences. There are many more examples. How can Singaporean still sing and dance on the theme of One People?

    Look at the US. The Americans have the melting pot ideal which believes that people from all over the world can come to the US to meld and live together as one. In reality, just the heat generated by the friction between the two ingredients of
    White and Black is enough to melt the whole pot down. They all speak English but they have not become One People. The Blacks proclaim Blacks Lives Matter which is a very clear statement on their racial identity. Meanwhile the Whites proportion in the
    population is in decline. Projections indicate that the Whites will be a minority in several decades ahead. Even before that arrive, the Whites are already experiencing reverse racism from the Blacks.

    In a recent Ramussen survey carried out among the Blacks, 26% disagree that it is OK to be White.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4CJ8nV-myE

    A renowned White cartoonist Scott Adams called this out as extreme racism. Some years back, he had identified himself as Black. But this survey has jolted him back to reality. He has decided to re-identify himself as White. He reveals how Whites
    have become victims of reverse racism from the Blacks, being beaten daily by the Blacks.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSMhg6udxn4
    For this, he has received brickbats and bouquets. There are those who consider him a hero and those who label him a racist and bigot.


    In Singapore, if a survey were to be made among the non-Chinese with the question "Is it OK to be Chinese?", percentage of those who answer "No" would probably be higher, especially among the Indians. As more non-Chinese migrants are accepted into
    Singapore in the name of diversity and inclusiveness, this percentage will increase. If the Chinese are not careful, they will end up like the Whites-majority in the US.

    One People, increasing the racial diversity and inclusiveness, these are confusing and contradictory. They are ruses by the racial minorities to first reduce and finally eliminate and eradicate the Chinese-majority. This will not happen without
    open racial conflicts. Instead of "One People, One Nation, One Singapore", it will be one bloody mess.

    This is not about identity politics or tribalism. It's about realism. Going forward, Singapore should discard unrealistic ideal such as One People.

    The best way forward for Singapore is to maintain its multi-racialism under Chinese-majority rule.
    The substantial Chinese-majority in Singapore is a pain in the arses of its racial minorities. These minorities frequently complain about Chinese privileges and cry as victims at the slightest perceived racism from the Chinese. They should look at
    countries where their own race dominate. The Malays should look at the non-Malays in Malaysia and Indonesia, the Indians should look at the non-Indians in the North-eastern states of India. If they do, they will realise how fortunate they are to be the
    racial minorities in a Chinese-majority Singapore.

    Yet these minorities seek to nullify, equalise and finally eradicate and eliminate the lopsided racial composition in Singapore. They espouse theories of racial equality, race-blindness, Singaporeans Singapore, One People, etc.. Many gullible fools
    among the Chinese blindly go along with them. They should be careful with their idealistic and wishful thinking. Or their future generations will suffer for it. Those racial minorities who easily cry as victims of racism today will themselves become
    worse perpetrators of racism tomorrow if and when they come to power. Those who feel sorry for them today will be felt sorry by them tomorrow.

    Look at what’s happening to the Whites-majority in the US. The Whites there are facing so much antagonism that they have to assert that it’s OK to be White. In response, the Blacks make a survey to find out how many Blacks think that it’s OK to
    be Whites. The answer is not good for the Whites. On the ground, Whites are experiencing reverse racism from the Blacks.

    Its worse for the Whites in South Africa. When it was under Whites-minority rule, the Blacks were victims of racism. Since South Africa came under Blacks-majority rule, the Blacks are proving to be more racist towards the Whites. Due to racial
    discrimination, many Whites have become the underclass, forming the jobless and squatters. That’s not enough for the Blacks. They want to take over all assets of all the Whites there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn5c1sy40Tk

    The Whites in South Africa are in such a pitiful state that even the Blacks feel sorry for them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj84Sw1x2po

    If it’s bad for the Whites in South Africa, it’s worse for those in Zimbabwe.

    These are valuable lessons for the Chinese in Singapore. They are heading for that way too if they are not wary of those racial minorities who espouse race theories with the interests of their own race in mind. These racial ideals will take a long
    time to realise, if at all. In the process, the nation risks being wrecked by racial conflicts.

    Instead of wasting precious national resources and taking unnecessary risks to pursue unrealistic racial goals for the nation, Singapore should accept its multi-racialism with Chinese-majority rule. This should be taught in schools. It should be
    depicted in every international event held in Singapore and celebrated on every National Day.
    Singapore-China relationship to be elevated.

    https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/singapore-china-relations-is-a-model-for-countries-in-the-region-xi-jinping

    Singapore’s PM Lee Hsien Loong is leading a team on a state visit to China. Because the team includes non-Chinese officials who speaks only English, besides some initial personal greetings, all official meetings between the visitors and the Chinese
    are conducted in English.

    Singapore is free to conduct its foreign policy as it sees fit. Nothing wrong.

    How far can Singapore go with China? Just a little closer, those racists among the racial minorities would go fear-mongering about Singapore becoming the Third China or Chinapore and they becoming second-class citizens. Then the government will back-
    pedal to appease them.

    Doesn't make much sense.
    Australia and Canada have Anglo-Saxons as their people, English as their language, and the British queen on their currencies.
    If there are second Britain and third Britain, Australia and Canada certainly fit the bill. Are their citizens second class citizens to Brits? Of course not.


    Because of this, Singapore is losing out, especially in the area of technology. It has to choose non-Chinese 5G wireless communication system even though Chinese 5G is the most developed . It may have to go for non-Chinese Electric Vehicle even though
    the Chinese is way ahead of the competitions in this field.
    This is being repeated in space technology. While China’s achievements in space are much more impressive than those of India, Singapore’s satellites are being launched by Indian rather than Chinese rockets. This is extending to the new generation
    of Singaporeans with aspirations to work in the field of space. Young Singaporeans are being sent as interns to India’s space technology institutions.

    As long as Singapore prides itself as an English-speaking nation, it will always get along better with India than China. It will choose to co-operate with India more than China.

    Singapore may become like Western countries where only Chinese money, not the people, are loved. In this case, Singapore will only welcome Chinese tourists but not Chinese technology.

    It is Singapore's freedom to be more like Western countries and to befriend India more than China.

    The concern by the little I know is about how it treat its Chinese speaking citizens. English first would
    certainly split the ethnic Chinese majority into two classes. Insufficient proficiency in English will make
    one into a second class citizen forever closed to many high paying jobs he or she otherwise would
    qualified.

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  • From dosai prata@21:1/5 to papa dumdum on Tue Apr 4 17:50:26 2023
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    There are other factors more important than the English language for social integration. For example, no matter how proficiency you are in English, if you carry a strong body odor, few would want to come near you. Those who have the stink and still mix
    in with a crowd would be considered to be lacking in social responsibility. Those who clean the arses with their hands would be worse. No matter how high their level of English proficiency, it will not help them in social integration.

    A more assuring criterion for social integration would be having a common ethnic identity with the substantial Chinese majority.

    Whether it’s to make up for the falling fertility rate or for the sake of social integration, Singapore needs more Chinese, not Indians, migrants. Using English test for Citizenship and PR applications would produce the opposite effect.

    Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-religious nation with four official languages. If language were to be used as a criterion to determine citizenship and PR, then any of the official languages will do.

    MP Pritam Singh's suggestion and Channel News Aneh report on the issue are both not worthy of further attention. The authority should ignore them.

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  • From papa dumdum@21:1/5 to dosai prata on Mon Apr 24 02:33:49 2023
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    “Adding that Singaporeans "do not want new citizens who don’t want to live here but only want the power of the Singapore passport for their convenience", Mr Singh asked: “Is a working proficiency in English a criteria for citizenship for better
    integration between new citizens and Singaporeans of all races and religions, since English is our main language of communication?”

    It’s not new citizens but the racial minorities that are concerned about the international acceptance of the Singapore Passport. Every time someone suggests promoting the use of Chinese language, the minorities would respond that that would make the
    Singapore Passport less welcomed around the world.

    There are other factors more important than the English language for social integration. For example, no matter how proficiency you are in English, if you carry a strong body odor, few would want to come near you. Those who have the stink and still mix
    in with a crowd would be considered to be lacking in social responsibility. Those who clean the arses with their hands would be worse. No matter how high their level of English proficiency, it will not help them in social integration.

    A more assuring criterion for social integration would be having a common ethnic identity with the substantial Chinese majority.

    Whether it’s to make up for the falling fertility rate or for the sake of social integration, Singapore needs more Chinese, not Indians, migrants. Using English test for Citizenship and PR applications would produce the opposite effect.

    Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-religious nation with four official languages. If language were to be used as a criterion to determine citizenship and PR, then any of the official languages will do.

    MP Pritam Singh's suggestion and Channel News Aneh report on the issue are both not worthy of further attention. The authority should ignore them.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIztnCYPvJE

    Pritam Singh still insists on using English Test to determine new citizenship and PR, using the CNA survey and quoting LKY from 1986 to back it up. He went on to advocate the role of English as a common language to bind all Singaporeans together.

    New citizens and PRs are valued for their talents. Talents around the world don't come English-speaking-only. By restricting them to the English-proficient, Singapore would be narrowing down the sources of talents to those from English-speaking countries,
    the most populous of which would be India. Perhaps that's the reason for this Indian MP proposal.

    No matter who or what had been said or written about it, has the more common use of the English Language resulted in better social cohesion and integration among Singaporeans old and new? No. On the contrary, it has resulted in more racial disputes and
    fights between Indians and Chinese. All the following incidents happened after 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E3z7mPVReQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-6slteu1ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNOq9vUbd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtqlAGhYYk
    Not to mention the murders of Chinese by Indians.

    Chinese being cursed, swore at, beaten up and murdered by Indians, all done in English. Is this what English for social integration all about?


    LKY lived long enough to realise he was wrong. He foresaw the danger of the increasing proportion of Indians in the population. He publicly expressed his fear that today they contribute to the economy, tomorrow they will demand political power. He had
    to remind the Indians to accept Chinese-majority rule. He brought those Indians who espoused racial equality and a Singaporeans-Singapore down to earth. These are never quoted by Indians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f2Kgj1nhSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOis6p-jAGA


    Since the JBJ saga, Singapore's identity has become synonymous with Indians and English. Both the number of Indians and the use of English Language have increased.

    Like a typical Indian, Singh has been silent about the ever increasing presence of Indians in Singapore but will make a big issue out of any perceived increase of Chinese. Pritam Singh has expressed concern about rich Chinese migrating to Singapore. Not
    surprising. If they were Indians, they will be welcomed by all Indians. Watch how Indians will use the English Language media to play this up into a big racial issue. Those rich Chinese already in Singapore should be careful about being interviewed by
    the English-language press. They are there with a sinister motive - to dig out dirt to make the Chinese unwelcome and make the government looks bad.

    Pritam Singh is a typical Indian Singaporean. Indians, by race, are not a majority on the island nor in the region. For this reason, they reject any race-based identity locally or regionally. They look for an international or global identity. They look
    for global power to counter local power. They are not committed to Singapore. They want to scoot off anytime when they cannot get any benefit from Singapore. That's why they are concerned about the receptiveness of the Singapore passport around the world.
    That's why they are diehard advocates of the English Language.

    Indian like Pritam Singh is a legacy of the of the JBJ saga. Anti-Chinese racism among the Indians arose out of that. Indians espouse race theories like race-blindness, racial equality, Singaporeans-Singapore, Singapore Identity, English Language for
    social integration and national unity, etc.., as ruses to cover up their anti-Chinese racism. Their preference for the English-language fits into these too. All these add up to say that they don't accept a Chinese-majority Singapore and they want to
    make Singapore more favorable for Indians to settle and live in until it's an Indian-governed or Indian-majority Singapore.

    Like a typical Indian Singaporean, he speaks mouthful about a multi-racial, multi-cultural Singapore but never pays any recognition to its substantial Chinese majority.

    It's time to make it crystal clear to the racial minorities that Singapore is first and foremost a Chinese-majority nation. The Chinese should not have to apologise for asserting their majority rights. In other parts of the world, those rights are
    legislated and legalised.

    Look at the French in Quebec. Quebec is just a province of Canada where French form the majority of the population. The English language is creeping in at the expense of the French language. This is worsen by increasing migrations of non-French into
    Quebec. The French are fighting back to retain the dominance of their ethnicity, especially their language. They enact laws to achieve these.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJu_f2uPDc

    Consider Israel. Like Singapore, its multi-racial and multi-religious and closely linked to the West, especially English-speaking US. English is widely used but the Jewish language of Hebrew is the National Language which is most widely used. It would be
    unthinkable for the Jews to forsake their racial identity and replace it with a national identity in order to to accommodate the various races and religions in Israel.

    Closer to home, there's Malaysia. Here's what it is like over there. Malays-majority rules with a supremacy which cannot be questioned, let alone challenged. Political power is absolutely in the hands of the Malays. The Monarchy is Malays-only. The
    Prime Minister must be a Malay, as an unwritten rule. The language of the Malay majority is truly the National Language, used in every sphere of life. Immigration policies favor the Malays and Muslims from all over the world. As a result, Malay-Muslims
    proportion in the population is on the increase while those of the non-Malays are on the decline due to outward migration.
    Despite all these, Malaysia is not accused of being a racist or xenophobic country. It's internationally accepted. It is able to attract foreign investments and talents. People from various parts of the world are attracted to there to make it their
    second or retirement home.
    It's working well especially for the Malays-majority. Malays' rule is not challenged by the racial minorities. There's racial peace and harmony. Zero case of Malays being beaten up by non-Malays.
    English is still widely used especially in the realm of economy. But there's no such nonsense about using it as a common language for social integration or to bind the various races together. That's reserved for the Malay Language.
    The issue of a non-Malay PM is never discussed. Instead Malaysian reporters and foreign ones based in Malaysia would write about the possibility of a non-Chinese PM of Singapore!

    What are the minority Indians there doing about all these? They just take it all lying down.

    In Singapore, the racial minorities adopt a challenging attitude towards the Chinese majority. Take for example the post of Prime Minister. Since the JBJ saga, the racial minorities, especially Indians, have been pushing for a non-Chinese PM. This
    issue is always posed to the potential Chinese candidate for the next PM. A wrong answer will land that Chinese in trouble. When ex-DPM Heng did not deliver a satisfactory answer, a Malay immediately made a police report against him.

    Why such vast difference in the relationship between the racial majority and the racial minorities in the two neighboring countries? It is simply this. In Malaysia, the Malays leave no doubt who is boss. That's been settled. In Singapore this is still in
    doubt and yet to be settled.

    Singapore started off with this wishy-washy ideal of racial equality. From the very beginning of its founding, Singapore’s leaders have to grapple with myriad of problems related to the ideals of racial equality. The problems continue to grow. To this
    day racial equality and harmony is still considered work-in-progress. Perhaps disaster-in-progress is more accurate since racial problems are increasing as the minority races challenge the Chinese majority for dominance and supremacy in the name of
    racial equality.

    It's about time Singapore reconsiders its model for a multi-racial, multi-religious nation. Either that or it may cease to exist some decades into the future.

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  • From dosai prata@21:1/5 to papa dumdum on Fri Jun 9 02:08:32 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Focusing on the top three countries of origin (India, Malaysia and China), the English literacy level among those from China was the lowest at 61.8 per cent, Asst Prof Ang said.
    “Because a large proportion (62.3 per cent) of the overall resident population is Chinese-literate, Chinese immigrants may feel little need to learn another language. But this means that members from the minority races may not be able to
    communicate with them,” he added."

    The nation’s falling fertility makes it necessary to increase immigration. But it’s the Chinese fertility rate that is falling. We should increase the immigration of Chinese. Yet India is the top country of origin of Singapore residents born
    outside Singapore.

    With these as background, the question for the survey should be:
    India is currently the top country of origin of Singapore residents born outside Singapore. English Language test for Singapore citizenship and PR would favor Indians. Is it fair to require an English Language test for new immigrants?

    A false claim about the English Language:
    “Adding that Singaporeans "do not want new citizens who don’t want to live here but only want the power of the Singapore passport for their convenience", Mr Singh asked: “Is a working proficiency in English a criteria for citizenship for better
    integration between new citizens and Singaporeans of all races and religions, since English is our main language of communication?”

    It’s not new citizens but the racial minorities that are concerned about the international acceptance of the Singapore Passport. Every time someone suggests promoting the use of Chinese language, the minorities would respond that that would make
    the Singapore Passport less welcomed around the world.

    There are other factors more important than the English language for social integration. For example, no matter how proficiency you are in English, if you carry a strong body odor, few would want to come near you. Those who have the stink and still
    mix in with a crowd would be considered to be lacking in social responsibility. Those who clean the arses with their hands would be worse. No matter how high their level of English proficiency, it will not help them in social integration.

    A more assuring criterion for social integration would be having a common ethnic identity with the substantial Chinese majority.

    Whether it’s to make up for the falling fertility rate or for the sake of social integration, Singapore needs more Chinese, not Indians, migrants. Using English test for Citizenship and PR applications would produce the opposite effect.

    Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-religious nation with four official languages. If language were to be used as a criterion to determine citizenship and PR, then any of the official languages will do.

    MP Pritam Singh's suggestion and Channel News Aneh report on the issue are both not worthy of further attention. The authority should ignore them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIztnCYPvJE

    Pritam Singh still insists on using English Test to determine new citizenship and PR, using the CNA survey and quoting LKY from 1986 to back it up. He went on to advocate the role of English as a common language to bind all Singaporeans together.

    New citizens and PRs are valued for their talents. Talents around the world don't come English-speaking-only. By restricting them to the English-proficient, Singapore would be narrowing down the sources of talents to those from English-speaking
    countries, the most populous of which would be India. Perhaps that's the reason for this Indian MP proposal.

    No matter who or what had been said or written about it, has the more common use of the English Language resulted in better social cohesion and integration among Singaporeans old and new? No. On the contrary, it has resulted in more racial disputes and
    fights between Indians and Chinese. All the following incidents happened after 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E3z7mPVReQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-6slteu1ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNOq9vUbd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtqlAGhYYk
    Not to mention the murders of Chinese by Indians.

    Chinese being cursed, swore at, beaten up and murdered by Indians, all done in English. Is this what English for social integration all about?


    LKY lived long enough to realise he was wrong. He foresaw the danger of the increasing proportion of Indians in the population. He publicly expressed his fear that today they contribute to the economy, tomorrow they will demand political power. He had
    to remind the Indians to accept Chinese-majority rule. He brought those Indians who espoused racial equality and a Singaporeans-Singapore down to earth. These are never quoted by Indians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f2Kgj1nhSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOis6p-jAGA


    Since the JBJ saga, Singapore's identity has become synonymous with Indians and English. Both the number of Indians and the use of English Language have increased.

    Like a typical Indian, Singh has been silent about the ever increasing presence of Indians in Singapore but will make a big issue out of any perceived increase of Chinese. Pritam Singh has expressed concern about rich Chinese migrating to Singapore.
    Not surprising. If they were Indians, they will be welcomed by all Indians. Watch how Indians will use the English Language media to play this up into a big racial issue. Those rich Chinese already in Singapore should be careful about being interviewed
    by the English-language press. They are there with a sinister motive - to dig out dirt to make the Chinese unwelcome and make the government looks bad.

    Pritam Singh is a typical Indian Singaporean. Indians, by race, are not a majority on the island nor in the region. For this reason, they reject any race-based identity locally or regionally. They look for an international or global identity. They look
    for global power to counter local power. They are not committed to Singapore. They want to scoot off anytime when they cannot get any benefit from Singapore. That's why they are concerned about the receptiveness of the Singapore passport around the world.
    That's why they are diehard advocates of the English Language.

    Indian like Pritam Singh is a legacy of the of the JBJ saga. Anti-Chinese racism among the Indians arose out of that. Indians espouse race theories like race-blindness, racial equality, Singaporeans-Singapore, Singapore Identity, English Language for
    social integration and national unity, etc.., as ruses to cover up their anti-Chinese racism. Their preference for the English-language fits into these too. All these add up to say that they don't accept a Chinese-majority Singapore and they want to make
    Singapore more favorable for Indians to settle and live in until it's an Indian-governed or Indian-majority Singapore.

    Like a typical Indian Singaporean, he speaks mouthful about a multi-racial, multi-cultural Singapore but never pays any recognition to its substantial Chinese majority.

    It's time to make it crystal clear to the racial minorities that Singapore is first and foremost a Chinese-majority nation. The Chinese should not have to apologise for asserting their majority rights. In other parts of the world, those rights are
    legislated and legalised.

    Look at the French in Quebec. Quebec is just a province of Canada where French form the majority of the population. The English language is creeping in at the expense of the French language. This is worsen by increasing migrations of non-French into
    Quebec. The French are fighting back to retain the dominance of their ethnicity, especially their language. They enact laws to achieve these.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJu_f2uPDc

    Consider Israel. Like Singapore, its multi-racial and multi-religious and closely linked to the West, especially English-speaking US. English is widely used but the Jewish language of Hebrew is the National Language which is most widely used. It would
    be unthinkable for the Jews to forsake their racial identity and replace it with a national identity in order to to accommodate the various races and religions in Israel.

    Closer to home, there's Malaysia. Here's what it is like over there. Malays-majority rules with a supremacy which cannot be questioned, let alone challenged. Political power is absolutely in the hands of the Malays. The Monarchy is Malays-only. The
    Prime Minister must be a Malay, as an unwritten rule. The language of the Malay majority is truly the National Language, used in every sphere of life. Immigration policies favor the Malays and Muslims from all over the world. As a result, Malay-Muslims
    proportion in the population is on the increase while those of the non-Malays are on the decline due to outward migration.
    Despite all these, Malaysia is not accused of being a racist or xenophobic country. It's internationally accepted. It is able to attract foreign investments and talents. People from various parts of the world are attracted to there to make it their
    second or retirement home.
    It's working well especially for the Malays-majority. Malays' rule is not challenged by the racial minorities. There's racial peace and harmony. Zero case of Malays being beaten up by non-Malays.
    English is still widely used especially in the realm of economy. But there's no such nonsense about using it as a common language for social integration or to bind the various races together. That's reserved for the Malay Language.
    The issue of a non-Malay PM is never discussed. Instead Malaysian reporters and foreign ones based in Malaysia would write about the possibility of a non-Chinese PM of Singapore!

    What are the minority Indians there doing about all these? They just take it all lying down.

    In Singapore, the racial minorities adopt a challenging attitude towards the Chinese majority. Take for example the post of Prime Minister. Since the JBJ saga, the racial minorities, especially Indians, have been pushing for a non-Chinese PM. This
    issue is always posed to the potential Chinese candidate for the next PM. A wrong answer will land that Chinese in trouble. When ex-DPM Heng did not deliver a satisfactory answer, a Malay immediately made a police report against him.

    Why such vast difference in the relationship between the racial majority and the racial minorities in the two neighboring countries? It is simply this. In Malaysia, the Malays leave no doubt who is boss. That's been settled. In Singapore this is still
    in doubt and yet to be settled.

    Singapore started off with this wishy-washy ideal of racial equality. From the very beginning of its founding, Singapore’s leaders have to grapple with myriad of problems related to the ideals of racial equality. The problems continue to grow. To
    this day racial equality and harmony is still considered work-in-progress. Perhaps disaster-in-progress is more accurate since racial problems are increasing as the minority races challenge the Chinese majority for dominance and supremacy in the name of
    racial equality.

    It's about time Singapore reconsiders its model for a multi-racial, multi-religious nation. Either that or it may cease to exist some decades into the future.


    Indians seeking more power in Singapore

    Ethic Indian Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Tharman for short) has decided to run for President.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSoZk6gAA4

    Does he have the PM and the Cabinet support?

    The Presidency is to supposed to be rotated among the races. To ascertain this, a law is in place to only allow members of a specific race to contest in a specific Presidential Election.

    The last three Presidents by race were Chinese Ong Teng Cheong, Indian S.R. Nathan and Malay Halimah Yakob. Among the three, the Indian served the longest, for two terms, totaling 12 years. The next one should be from "Others". This is about racial
    equality and fairness.

    Why is Tharman pushing these aside? The reason he gives for his decision is ridiculous. What rubbish about the changing world. It seems he does not understand the role of the President. Its mostly ceremonial plus two other main ones – appoint
    Ministers and hold the second key to the nation's financial reserves.

    Wrong timing, wrong reason. Why then is he still joining the race for the next President? It's racial. To serve the interest of his race. Before this, the Indians were pushing hard for him to be the the PM. Failing this, they now want him to be
    President. This is manifestation of Indians lust for power in Singapore. Another Indian President, just like the previous ones, would mean more Indians coming over to Singapore. There will be another spike in Indian proportion in the population of
    Singapore.

    Tharman represents only Indians and Indian power in Singapore. But the authority will not dare challenge him lest it will turn into another JBJ Saga. It's left to the ordinary people.

    Non-Indians should not vote for him.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From gerard jud@21:1/5 to dosai prata on Tue Jun 13 03:02:41 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    The article took the extra effort to show the survey results based on ethnic distribution, indicating that a large majority of Chinese agrees with Singh’s suggestion. This is not surprising because Singapore has only English education with
    vernacular language taught as a subject since independence. There may be other factors such as the age and geographical distribution.

    Still, a survey without any background knowledge or analysis does not convey accurate decisions of those surveyed.

    In the article, a Professor provided the critical background knowledge along with some statistics.
    “Asst Prof Ang noted that as Singapore’s total fertility rate continues to fall, the nation has looked towards immigration to supplement the population and workforce.
    Based on data from the Singapore Census 2020, 72.3 per cent of Singapore residents born outside Singapore are literate in English.
    Focusing on the top three countries of origin (India, Malaysia and China), the English literacy level among those from China was the lowest at 61.8 per cent, Asst Prof Ang said.
    “Because a large proportion (62.3 per cent) of the overall resident population is Chinese-literate, Chinese immigrants may feel little need to learn another language. But this means that members from the minority races may not be able to
    communicate with them,” he added."

    The nation’s falling fertility makes it necessary to increase immigration. But it’s the Chinese fertility rate that is falling. We should increase the immigration of Chinese. Yet India is the top country of origin of Singapore residents born
    outside Singapore.

    With these as background, the question for the survey should be:
    India is currently the top country of origin of Singapore residents born outside Singapore. English Language test for Singapore citizenship and PR would favor Indians. Is it fair to require an English Language test for new immigrants?

    A false claim about the English Language:
    “Adding that Singaporeans "do not want new citizens who don’t want to live here but only want the power of the Singapore passport for their convenience", Mr Singh asked: “Is a working proficiency in English a criteria for citizenship for
    better integration between new citizens and Singaporeans of all races and religions, since English is our main language of communication?”

    It’s not new citizens but the racial minorities that are concerned about the international acceptance of the Singapore Passport. Every time someone suggests promoting the use of Chinese language, the minorities would respond that that would make
    the Singapore Passport less welcomed around the world.

    There are other factors more important than the English language for social integration. For example, no matter how proficiency you are in English, if you carry a strong body odor, few would want to come near you. Those who have the stink and still
    mix in with a crowd would be considered to be lacking in social responsibility. Those who clean the arses with their hands would be worse. No matter how high their level of English proficiency, it will not help them in social integration.

    A more assuring criterion for social integration would be having a common ethnic identity with the substantial Chinese majority.

    Whether it’s to make up for the falling fertility rate or for the sake of social integration, Singapore needs more Chinese, not Indians, migrants. Using English test for Citizenship and PR applications would produce the opposite effect.

    Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-religious nation with four official languages. If language were to be used as a criterion to determine citizenship and PR, then any of the official languages will do.

    MP Pritam Singh's suggestion and Channel News Aneh report on the issue are both not worthy of further attention. The authority should ignore them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIztnCYPvJE

    Pritam Singh still insists on using English Test to determine new citizenship and PR, using the CNA survey and quoting LKY from 1986 to back it up. He went on to advocate the role of English as a common language to bind all Singaporeans together.

    New citizens and PRs are valued for their talents. Talents around the world don't come English-speaking-only. By restricting them to the English-proficient, Singapore would be narrowing down the sources of talents to those from English-speaking
    countries, the most populous of which would be India. Perhaps that's the reason for this Indian MP proposal.

    No matter who or what had been said or written about it, has the more common use of the English Language resulted in better social cohesion and integration among Singaporeans old and new? No. On the contrary, it has resulted in more racial disputes
    and fights between Indians and Chinese. All the following incidents happened after 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E3z7mPVReQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-6slteu1ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNOq9vUbd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtqlAGhYYk
    Not to mention the murders of Chinese by Indians.

    Chinese being cursed, swore at, beaten up and murdered by Indians, all done in English. Is this what English for social integration all about?


    LKY lived long enough to realise he was wrong. He foresaw the danger of the increasing proportion of Indians in the population. He publicly expressed his fear that today they contribute to the economy, tomorrow they will demand political power. He
    had to remind the Indians to accept Chinese-majority rule. He brought those Indians who espoused racial equality and a Singaporeans-Singapore down to earth. These are never quoted by Indians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f2Kgj1nhSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOis6p-jAGA


    Since the JBJ saga, Singapore's identity has become synonymous with Indians and English. Both the number of Indians and the use of English Language have increased.

    Like a typical Indian, Singh has been silent about the ever increasing presence of Indians in Singapore but will make a big issue out of any perceived increase of Chinese. Pritam Singh has expressed concern about rich Chinese migrating to Singapore.
    Not surprising. If they were Indians, they will be welcomed by all Indians. Watch how Indians will use the English Language media to play this up into a big racial issue. Those rich Chinese already in Singapore should be careful about being interviewed
    by the English-language press. They are there with a sinister motive - to dig out dirt to make the Chinese unwelcome and make the government looks bad.

    Pritam Singh is a typical Indian Singaporean. Indians, by race, are not a majority on the island nor in the region. For this reason, they reject any race-based identity locally or regionally. They look for an international or global identity. They
    look for global power to counter local power. They are not committed to Singapore. They want to scoot off anytime when they cannot get any benefit from Singapore. That's why they are concerned about the receptiveness of the Singapore passport around the
    world.That's why they are diehard advocates of the English Language.

    Indian like Pritam Singh is a legacy of the of the JBJ saga. Anti-Chinese racism among the Indians arose out of that. Indians espouse race theories like race-blindness, racial equality, Singaporeans-Singapore, Singapore Identity, English Language for
    social integration and national unity, etc.., as ruses to cover up their anti-Chinese racism. Their preference for the English-language fits into these too. All these add up to say that they don't accept a Chinese-majority Singapore and they want to make
    Singapore more favorable for Indians to settle and live in until it's an Indian-governed or Indian-majority Singapore.

    Like a typical Indian Singaporean, he speaks mouthful about a multi-racial, multi-cultural Singapore but never pays any recognition to its substantial Chinese majority.

    It's time to make it crystal clear to the racial minorities that Singapore is first and foremost a Chinese-majority nation. The Chinese should not have to apologise for asserting their majority rights. In other parts of the world, those rights are
    legislated and legalised.

    Look at the French in Quebec. Quebec is just a province of Canada where French form the majority of the population. The English language is creeping in at the expense of the French language. This is worsen by increasing migrations of non-French into
    Quebec. The French are fighting back to retain the dominance of their ethnicity, especially their language. They enact laws to achieve these.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJu_f2uPDc

    Consider Israel. Like Singapore, its multi-racial and multi-religious and closely linked to the West, especially English-speaking US. English is widely used but the Jewish language of Hebrew is the National Language which is most widely used. It
    would be unthinkable for the Jews to forsake their racial identity and replace it with a national identity in order to to accommodate the various races and religions in Israel.

    Closer to home, there's Malaysia. Here's what it is like over there. Malays-majority rules with a supremacy which cannot be questioned, let alone challenged. Political power is absolutely in the hands of the Malays. The Monarchy is Malays-only. The
    Prime Minister must be a Malay, as an unwritten rule. The language of the Malay majority is truly the National Language, used in every sphere of life. Immigration policies favor the Malays and Muslims from all over the world. As a result, Malay-Muslims
    proportion in the population is on the increase while those of the non-Malays are on the decline due to outward migration.
    Despite all these, Malaysia is not accused of being a racist or xenophobic country. It's internationally accepted. It is able to attract foreign investments and talents. People from various parts of the world are attracted to there to make it their
    second or retirement home.
    It's working well especially for the Malays-majority. Malays' rule is not challenged by the racial minorities. There's racial peace and harmony. Zero case of Malays being beaten up by non-Malays.
    English is still widely used especially in the realm of economy. But there's no such nonsense about using it as a common language for social integration or to bind the various races together. That's reserved for the Malay Language.
    The issue of a non-Malay PM is never discussed. Instead Malaysian reporters and foreign ones based in Malaysia would write about the possibility of a non-Chinese PM of Singapore!

    What are the minority Indians there doing about all these? They just take it all lying down.

    In Singapore, the racial minorities adopt a challenging attitude towards the Chinese majority. Take for example the post of Prime Minister. Since the JBJ saga, the racial minorities, especially Indians, have been pushing for a non-Chinese PM. This
    issue is always posed to the potential Chinese candidate for the next PM. A wrong answer will land that Chinese in trouble. When ex-DPM Heng did not deliver a satisfactory answer, a Malay immediately made a police report against him.

    Why such vast difference in the relationship between the racial majority and the racial minorities in the two neighboring countries? It is simply this. In Malaysia, the Malays leave no doubt who is boss. That's been settled. In Singapore this is
    still in doubt and yet to be settled.

    Singapore started off with this wishy-washy ideal of racial equality. From the very beginning of its founding, Singapore’s leaders have to grapple with myriad of problems related to the ideals of racial equality. The problems continue to grow. To
    this day racial equality and harmony is still considered work-in-progress. Perhaps disaster-in-progress is more accurate since racial problems are increasing as the minority races challenge the Chinese majority for dominance and supremacy in the name of
    racial equality.

    It's about time Singapore reconsiders its model for a multi-racial, multi-religious nation. Either that or it may cease to exist some decades into the future.
    Indians seeking more power in Singapore

    Ethic Indian Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Tharman for short) has decided to run for President.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSoZk6gAA4

    Does he have the PM and the Cabinet support?

    The Presidency is to supposed to be rotated among the races. To ascertain this, a law is in place to only allow members of a specific race to contest in a specific Presidential Election.

    The last three Presidents by race were Chinese Ong Teng Cheong, Indian S.R. Nathan and Malay Halimah Yakob. Among the three, the Indian served the longest, for two terms, totaling 12 years. The next one should be from "Others". This is about racial
    equality and fairness.

    Why is Tharman pushing these aside? The reason he gives for his decision is ridiculous. What rubbish about the changing world. It seems he does not understand the role of the President. Its mostly ceremonial plus two other main ones – appoint
    Ministers and hold the second key to the nation's financial reserves.

    Wrong timing, wrong reason. Why then is he still joining the race for the next President? It's racial. To serve the interest of his race. Before this, the Indians were pushing hard for him to be the the PM. Failing this, they now want him to be
    President. This is manifestation of Indians lust for power in Singapore. Another Indian President, just like the previous ones, would mean more Indians coming over to Singapore. There will be another spike in Indian proportion in the population of
    Singapore.

    Tharman represents only Indians and Indian power in Singapore. But the authority will not dare challenge him lest it will turn into another JBJ Saga. It's left to the ordinary people.

    Non-Indians should not vote for him.


    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/george-goh-run-presidential-election-candidate-harvey-norman-ossia-3555876

    Another candidate has entered the race. Good. It means there will be competition. It would be better if its someone from the 'O' in the CMIO racial categories.

    This Presidential Election is starting off badly. It is not according to the government's plan. Why would the government support another Indian for President after only a gap of 6 six years of the last Indian Presidency of 12 years? This Indian will also
    be running for two terms of 12 years. If he is allowed, there is no guarantee there will not be another Indian who will not vie for the Presidency after him for another 12 years. Tharman has budged in without notice. The government doesn't seem to have
    the strength to say "No!" to him.

    Immediately after Tharman announced his intention, his was praised sky high by his fellow Indians in the English Language media. No mention of his past charges under the Official Secret Acts (OSA). They were hoping it would be a no-contest election. Now
    that Mr. George Goh has step up to be counted, unlike Tharman, he would not be praised. Instead he would be the target of disparagement and disinformation. Indians would look deep into his 40 years of business dealings and accounts to dig out any tiny
    dirt they can uncover and blow it out of proportion. His announcement may be the beginning of a nightmare for him.

    The reason Tharman gave for running for the Presidency is questionable. In what ways is the world changing that have prompted him to run for the Presidency? How would he as the President of Singapore influence those ways?

    Let's see. The world is witnessing the rise of China. It's influence in the world, especially in the Asia-Pacific region, is increasing. In this regard, Chinese-majority Singapore stands out among nations in the Asia-Pacific. Indians in Singapore would
    not like to see this happen.
    India is the favorite dog that the US is using to keep watch over China in Asia. The US has justified India's presence in the Asia-Paific region by defining the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean as one ocean of Indo-Pacific. India is lapping it all up.

    As President, Tharman will have the power to reduce China's influence in Singapore and keep Singapore close to India and the US. India's, instead of China's, influence will grow in Singapore. All good for the Indo-American dialliance. It's not surprising
    if it's the Americans who have suggested that he make a run for the next President of Singapore.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From decadence thlon@21:1/5 to gerard jud on Fri Jun 16 19:46:57 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    On Feb 27 during the Committee of Supply debates, Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh said that he would advocate for an English test when assessing a person's application for citizenship or permanent residency in Singapore. He was criticised
    for this.

    It prompted CNA, Channel News Aneh, to carry out a survey. The results are now published within a long article.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/english-test-new-citizens-pr-application-survey-3368571?cid=internal_mcdrecs_03042023_mcs#mdcrecs_s

    Besides the results of the survey, there are also opinions and anecdotes from public personalities, leading to a conclusion that supports the MP. This is to make it hard for the government not to accept MP Pritam Singh’s suggestion, which is
    the purpose of this journalistic effort.

    One thing about survey. It can be manipulated. First, you decide the result you want and then you conduct the survey in a way which will lead to the desired result.

    The article took the extra effort to show the survey results based on ethnic distribution, indicating that a large majority of Chinese agrees with Singh’s suggestion. This is not surprising because Singapore has only English education with
    vernacular language taught as a subject since independence. There may be other factors such as the age and geographical distribution.

    Still, a survey without any background knowledge or analysis does not convey accurate decisions of those surveyed.

    In the article, a Professor provided the critical background knowledge along with some statistics.
    “Asst Prof Ang noted that as Singapore’s total fertility rate continues to fall, the nation has looked towards immigration to supplement the population and workforce.
    Based on data from the Singapore Census 2020, 72.3 per cent of Singapore residents born outside Singapore are literate in English.
    Focusing on the top three countries of origin (India, Malaysia and China), the English literacy level among those from China was the lowest at 61.8 per cent, Asst Prof Ang said.
    “Because a large proportion (62.3 per cent) of the overall resident population is Chinese-literate, Chinese immigrants may feel little need to learn another language. But this means that members from the minority races may not be able to
    communicate with them,” he added."

    The nation’s falling fertility makes it necessary to increase immigration. But it’s the Chinese fertility rate that is falling. We should increase the immigration of Chinese. Yet India is the top country of origin of Singapore residents born
    outside Singapore.

    With these as background, the question for the survey should be:
    India is currently the top country of origin of Singapore residents born outside Singapore. English Language test for Singapore citizenship and PR would favor Indians. Is it fair to require an English Language test for new immigrants?

    A false claim about the English Language:
    “Adding that Singaporeans "do not want new citizens who don’t want to live here but only want the power of the Singapore passport for their convenience", Mr Singh asked: “Is a working proficiency in English a criteria for citizenship for
    better integration between new citizens and Singaporeans of all races and religions, since English is our main language of communication?”

    It’s not new citizens but the racial minorities that are concerned about the international acceptance of the Singapore Passport. Every time someone suggests promoting the use of Chinese language, the minorities would respond that that would
    make the Singapore Passport less welcomed around the world.

    There are other factors more important than the English language for social integration. For example, no matter how proficiency you are in English, if you carry a strong body odor, few would want to come near you. Those who have the stink and
    still mix in with a crowd would be considered to be lacking in social responsibility. Those who clean the arses with their hands would be worse. No matter how high their level of English proficiency, it will not help them in social integration.

    A more assuring criterion for social integration would be having a common ethnic identity with the substantial Chinese majority.

    Whether it’s to make up for the falling fertility rate or for the sake of social integration, Singapore needs more Chinese, not Indians, migrants. Using English test for Citizenship and PR applications would produce the opposite effect.

    Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-religious nation with four official languages. If language were to be used as a criterion to determine citizenship and PR, then any of the official languages will do.

    MP Pritam Singh's suggestion and Channel News Aneh report on the issue are both not worthy of further attention. The authority should ignore them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIztnCYPvJE

    Pritam Singh still insists on using English Test to determine new citizenship and PR, using the CNA survey and quoting LKY from 1986 to back it up. He went on to advocate the role of English as a common language to bind all Singaporeans together.

    New citizens and PRs are valued for their talents. Talents around the world don't come English-speaking-only. By restricting them to the English-proficient, Singapore would be narrowing down the sources of talents to those from English-speaking
    countries, the most populous of which would be India. Perhaps that's the reason for this Indian MP proposal.

    No matter who or what had been said or written about it, has the more common use of the English Language resulted in better social cohesion and integration among Singaporeans old and new? No. On the contrary, it has resulted in more racial disputes
    and fights between Indians and Chinese. All the following incidents happened after 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E3z7mPVReQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-6slteu1ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNOq9vUbd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtqlAGhYYk
    Not to mention the murders of Chinese by Indians.

    Chinese being cursed, swore at, beaten up and murdered by Indians, all done in English. Is this what English for social integration all about?


    LKY lived long enough to realise he was wrong. He foresaw the danger of the increasing proportion of Indians in the population. He publicly expressed his fear that today they contribute to the economy, tomorrow they will demand political power. He
    had to remind the Indians to accept Chinese-majority rule. He brought those Indians who espoused racial equality and a Singaporeans-Singapore down to earth. These are never quoted by Indians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f2Kgj1nhSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOis6p-jAGA


    Since the JBJ saga, Singapore's identity has become synonymous with Indians and English. Both the number of Indians and the use of English Language have increased.

    Like a typical Indian, Singh has been silent about the ever increasing presence of Indians in Singapore but will make a big issue out of any perceived increase of Chinese. Pritam Singh has expressed concern about rich Chinese migrating to Singapore.
    Not surprising. If they were Indians, they will be welcomed by all Indians. Watch how Indians will use the English Language media to play this up into a big racial issue. Those rich Chinese already in Singapore should be careful about being interviewed
    by the English-language press. They are there with a sinister motive - to dig out dirt to make the Chinese unwelcome and make the government looks bad.

    Pritam Singh is a typical Indian Singaporean. Indians, by race, are not a majority on the island nor in the region. For this reason, they reject any race-based identity locally or regionally. They look for an international or global identity. They
    look for global power to counter local power. They are not committed to Singapore. They want to scoot off anytime when they cannot get any benefit from Singapore. That's why they are concerned about the receptiveness of the Singapore passport around the
    world.That's why they are diehard advocates of the English Language.

    Indian like Pritam Singh is a legacy of the of the JBJ saga. Anti-Chinese racism among the Indians arose out of that. Indians espouse race theories like race-blindness, racial equality, Singaporeans-Singapore, Singapore Identity, English Language
    for social integration and national unity, etc.., as ruses to cover up their anti-Chinese racism. Their preference for the English-language fits into these too. All these add up to say that they don't accept a Chinese-majority Singapore and they want to
    make Singapore more favorable for Indians to settle and live in until it's an Indian-governed or Indian-majority Singapore.

    Like a typical Indian Singaporean, he speaks mouthful about a multi-racial, multi-cultural Singapore but never pays any recognition to its substantial Chinese majority.

    It's time to make it crystal clear to the racial minorities that Singapore is first and foremost a Chinese-majority nation. The Chinese should not have to apologise for asserting their majority rights. In other parts of the world, those rights are
    legislated and legalised.

    Look at the French in Quebec. Quebec is just a province of Canada where French form the majority of the population. The English language is creeping in at the expense of the French language. This is worsen by increasing migrations of non-French
    into Quebec. The French are fighting back to retain the dominance of their ethnicity, especially their language. They enact laws to achieve these.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJu_f2uPDc

    Consider Israel. Like Singapore, its multi-racial and multi-religious and closely linked to the West, especially English-speaking US. English is widely used but the Jewish language of Hebrew is the National Language which is most widely used. It
    would be unthinkable for the Jews to forsake their racial identity and replace it with a national identity in order to to accommodate the various races and religions in Israel.

    Closer to home, there's Malaysia. Here's what it is like over there. Malays-majority rules with a supremacy which cannot be questioned, let alone challenged. Political power is absolutely in the hands of the Malays. The Monarchy is Malays-only. The
    Prime Minister must be a Malay, as an unwritten rule. The language of the Malay majority is truly the National Language, used in every sphere of life. Immigration policies favor the Malays and Muslims from all over the world. As a result, Malay-Muslims
    proportion in the population is on the increase while those of the non-Malays are on the decline due to outward migration.
    Despite all these, Malaysia is not accused of being a racist or xenophobic country. It's internationally accepted. It is able to attract foreign investments and talents. People from various parts of the world are attracted to there to make it their
    second or retirement home.
    It's working well especially for the Malays-majority. Malays' rule is not challenged by the racial minorities. There's racial peace and harmony. Zero case of Malays being beaten up by non-Malays.
    English is still widely used especially in the realm of economy. But there's no such nonsense about using it as a common language for social integration or to bind the various races together. That's reserved for the Malay Language.
    The issue of a non-Malay PM is never discussed. Instead Malaysian reporters and foreign ones based in Malaysia would write about the possibility of a non-Chinese PM of Singapore!

    What are the minority Indians there doing about all these? They just take it all lying down.

    In Singapore, the racial minorities adopt a challenging attitude towards the Chinese majority. Take for example the post of Prime Minister. Since the JBJ saga, the racial minorities, especially Indians, have been pushing for a non-Chinese PM. This
    issue is always posed to the potential Chinese candidate for the next PM. A wrong answer will land that Chinese in trouble. When ex-DPM Heng did not deliver a satisfactory answer, a Malay immediately made a police report against him.

    Why such vast difference in the relationship between the racial majority and the racial minorities in the two neighboring countries? It is simply this. In Malaysia, the Malays leave no doubt who is boss. That's been settled. In Singapore this is
    still in doubt and yet to be settled.

    Singapore started off with this wishy-washy ideal of racial equality. From the very beginning of its founding, Singapore’s leaders have to grapple with myriad of problems related to the ideals of racial equality. The problems continue to grow. To
    this day racial equality and harmony is still considered work-in-progress. Perhaps disaster-in-progress is more accurate since racial problems are increasing as the minority races challenge the Chinese majority for dominance and supremacy in the name of
    racial equality.

    It's about time Singapore reconsiders its model for a multi-racial, multi-religious nation. Either that or it may cease to exist some decades into the future.
    Indians seeking more power in Singapore

    Ethic Indian Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Tharman for short) has decided to run for President.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSoZk6gAA4

    Does he have the PM and the Cabinet support?

    The Presidency is to supposed to be rotated among the races. To ascertain this, a law is in place to only allow members of a specific race to contest in a specific Presidential Election.

    The last three Presidents by race were Chinese Ong Teng Cheong, Indian S.R. Nathan and Malay Halimah Yakob. Among the three, the Indian served the longest, for two terms, totaling 12 years. The next one should be from "Others". This is about racial
    equality and fairness.

    Why is Tharman pushing these aside? The reason he gives for his decision is ridiculous. What rubbish about the changing world. It seems he does not understand the role of the President. Its mostly ceremonial plus two other main ones – appoint
    Ministers and hold the second key to the nation's financial reserves.

    Wrong timing, wrong reason. Why then is he still joining the race for the next President? It's racial. To serve the interest of his race. Before this, the Indians were pushing hard for him to be the the PM. Failing this, they now want him to be
    President. This is manifestation of Indians lust for power in Singapore. Another Indian President, just like the previous ones, would mean more Indians coming over to Singapore. There will be another spike in Indian proportion in the population of
    Singapore.

    Tharman represents only Indians and Indian power in Singapore. But the authority will not dare challenge him lest it will turn into another JBJ Saga. It's left to the ordinary people.

    Non-Indians should not vote for him.
    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/george-goh-run-presidential-election-candidate-harvey-norman-ossia-3555876

    Another candidate has entered the race. Good. It means there will be competition. It would be better if its someone from the 'O' in the CMIO racial categories.

    This Presidential Election is starting off badly. It is not according to the government's plan. Why would the government support another Indian for President after only a gap of 6 six years of the last Indian Presidency of 12 years? This Indian will
    also be running for two terms of 12 years. If he is allowed, there is no guarantee there will not be another Indian who will not vie for the Presidency after him for another 12 years. Tharman has budged in without notice. The government doesn't seem to
    have the strength to say "No!" to him.

    Immediately after Tharman announced his intention, his was praised sky high by his fellow Indians in the English Language media. No mention of his past charges under the Official Secret Acts (OSA). They were hoping it would be a no-contest election.
    Now that Mr. George Goh has step up to be counted, unlike Tharman, he would not be praised. Instead he would be the target of disparagement and disinformation. Indians would look deep into his 40 years of business dealings and accounts to dig out any
    tiny dirt they can uncover and blow it out of proportion. His announcement may be the beginning of a nightmare for him.

    The reason Tharman gave for running for the Presidency is questionable. In what ways is the world changing that have prompted him to run for the Presidency? How would he as the President of Singapore influence those ways?

    Let's see. The world is witnessing the rise of China. It's influence in the world, especially in the Asia-Pacific region, is increasing. In this regard, Chinese-majority Singapore stands out among nations in the Asia-Pacific. Indians in Singapore would
    not like to see this happen.
    India is the favorite dog that the US is using to keep watch over China in Asia. The US has justified India's presence in the Asia-Paific region by defining the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean as one ocean of Indo-Pacific. India is lapping it all up.


    As President, Tharman will have the power to reduce China's influence in Singapore and keep Singapore close to India and the US. India's, instead of China's, influence will grow in Singapore. All good for the Indo-American dialliance. It's not
    surprising if it's the Americans who have suggested that he make a run for the next President of Singapore.

    This is racism – Indian racism. It's about Indians gaining more political power and challenging Chinese-majority rule more strongly. That's the reason why this Indian is defying protocol to run for President..


    Even before he is elected, signs of Indian racism are emerging.

    Indian-infested Straits Times ran an article about Indian diaspora being more influential than the Chinese one.
    https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/india-s-diaspora-is-bigger-and-more-influential-than-any-in-history
    CNA – Channel News Aneh and China/Chinese Not Allowed devoted a long segment of a news with only Indian views on the India-China border dispute
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYyRnxTZrw

    Judgement of dispute between Indian and Chinese passed – in favor of the Indian of course.

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-convicted-of-kicking-woman-and-using-racial-insults-for-not-masking-up

    There will be more to come. This Indian, if he becomes President, like the previous one, will not want Chinese to be heard spoken within his earshot. He too will block the appointment of Chinese Ministers who are deemed unfriendly towards Indians.

    He will definitely want to serve for 12 year. No one will be able to stop him. After him, another Indian from the PAP will step forward for the next Presidential term. It will be one Indian after another. Singapore's Presidency will become a permanent
    Indian Presidency.

    It's up to the voters now. They should realise that voting for this guy is voting for more Indian power and more Indian challenges to Chinese-majority rule in Singapore.

    The Indians will claim that their fellow President has more legitimacy, and therefore more power, than the PM because he/she is directly elected by the people.

    To stop the Presidency from becoming a target of racial politics, things should revert to the old ways. That is, the President is appointed, rotated among the four racial categories of CMIO and its role is strictly ceremonial.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From dosai prata@21:1/5 to decadence thlon on Sun Jul 9 20:00:51 2023
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    Going forward, what role should English play in the continuing nation building of Singapore? For that, one has to take into consideration the sensitivities of the Malays. Malays in Singapore, like those in Malaysia, would not accept English
    in anyway which can diminish their racial status. To them, it is the language of those who colonised their land and brought in the 'pendatang' to overwhelm them. To use English to integrate the races? Or use it as the language of cultures where culture
    activities are conducted in English? What about mosque sermons being conducted in English? These will create racial conflicts.


    One attribute that all races can accept for any language is its economic values. The language should be able to create wealth, provide good jobs, being the tool for scientific and technological advances. That's how a language should be
    accepted for common use in multi-racial, multi-religious Singapore.This language should change with time. Today it's English. Tomorrow it may not be. As another language is seen to be upcoming with good economic values for Singapore, we should not
    hesitate to pick it up, even if it's the language of one of our races.


    Don't listen to Singaporean-Indians on immigration rules or policies. They only have one thing in mind, i.e., to bring in more of their own kind.
    On Feb 27 during the Committee of Supply debates, Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh said that he would advocate for an English test when assessing a person's application for citizenship or permanent residency in Singapore. He was criticised
    for this.

    It prompted CNA, Channel News Aneh, to carry out a survey. The results are now published within a long article.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/english-test-new-citizens-pr-application-survey-3368571?cid=internal_mcdrecs_03042023_mcs#mdcrecs_s

    Besides the results of the survey, there are also opinions and anecdotes from public personalities, leading to a conclusion that supports the MP. This is to make it hard for the government not to accept MP Pritam Singh’s suggestion, which is
    the purpose of this journalistic effort.

    One thing about survey. It can be manipulated. First, you decide the result you want and then you conduct the survey in a way which will lead to the desired result.

    The article took the extra effort to show the survey results based on ethnic distribution, indicating that a large majority of Chinese agrees with Singh’s suggestion. This is not surprising because Singapore has only English education with
    vernacular language taught as a subject since independence. There may be other factors such as the age and geographical distribution.

    Still, a survey without any background knowledge or analysis does not convey accurate decisions of those surveyed.

    In the article, a Professor provided the critical background knowledge along with some statistics.
    “Asst Prof Ang noted that as Singapore’s total fertility rate continues to fall, the nation has looked towards immigration to supplement the population and workforce.
    Based on data from the Singapore Census 2020, 72.3 per cent of Singapore residents born outside Singapore are literate in English.
    Focusing on the top three countries of origin (India, Malaysia and China), the English literacy level among those from China was the lowest at 61.8 per cent, Asst Prof Ang said.
    “Because a large proportion (62.3 per cent) of the overall resident population is Chinese-literate, Chinese immigrants may feel little need to learn another language. But this means that members from the minority races may not be able to
    communicate with them,” he added."

    The nation’s falling fertility makes it necessary to increase immigration. But it’s the Chinese fertility rate that is falling. We should increase the immigration of Chinese. Yet India is the top country of origin of Singapore residents
    born outside Singapore.

    With these as background, the question for the survey should be: India is currently the top country of origin of Singapore residents born outside Singapore. English Language test for Singapore citizenship and PR would favor Indians. Is it fair to require an English Language test for new immigrants?

    A false claim about the English Language:
    “Adding that Singaporeans "do not want new citizens who don’t want to live here but only want the power of the Singapore passport for their convenience", Mr Singh asked: “Is a working proficiency in English a criteria for citizenship for
    better integration between new citizens and Singaporeans of all races and religions, since English is our main language of communication?”

    It’s not new citizens but the racial minorities that are concerned about the international acceptance of the Singapore Passport. Every time someone suggests promoting the use of Chinese language, the minorities would respond that that would
    make the Singapore Passport less welcomed around the world.

    There are other factors more important than the English language for social integration. For example, no matter how proficiency you are in English, if you carry a strong body odor, few would want to come near you. Those who have the stink and
    still mix in with a crowd would be considered to be lacking in social responsibility. Those who clean the arses with their hands would be worse. No matter how high their level of English proficiency, it will not help them in social integration.

    A more assuring criterion for social integration would be having a common ethnic identity with the substantial Chinese majority.

    Whether it’s to make up for the falling fertility rate or for the sake of social integration, Singapore needs more Chinese, not Indians, migrants. Using English test for Citizenship and PR applications would produce the opposite effect.

    Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-religious nation with four official languages. If language were to be used as a criterion to determine citizenship and PR, then any of the official languages will do.

    MP Pritam Singh's suggestion and Channel News Aneh report on the issue are both not worthy of further attention. The authority should ignore them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIztnCYPvJE

    Pritam Singh still insists on using English Test to determine new citizenship and PR, using the CNA survey and quoting LKY from 1986 to back it up. He went on to advocate the role of English as a common language to bind all Singaporeans together.

    New citizens and PRs are valued for their talents. Talents around the world don't come English-speaking-only. By restricting them to the English-proficient, Singapore would be narrowing down the sources of talents to those from English-speaking
    countries, the most populous of which would be India. Perhaps that's the reason for this Indian MP proposal.

    No matter who or what had been said or written about it, has the more common use of the English Language resulted in better social cohesion and integration among Singaporeans old and new? No. On the contrary, it has resulted in more racial
    disputes and fights between Indians and Chinese. All the following incidents happened after 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E3z7mPVReQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-6slteu1ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNOq9vUbd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtqlAGhYYk
    Not to mention the murders of Chinese by Indians.

    Chinese being cursed, swore at, beaten up and murdered by Indians, all done in English. Is this what English for social integration all about?


    LKY lived long enough to realise he was wrong. He foresaw the danger of the increasing proportion of Indians in the population. He publicly expressed his fear that today they contribute to the economy, tomorrow they will demand political power.
    He had to remind the Indians to accept Chinese-majority rule. He brought those Indians who espoused racial equality and a Singaporeans-Singapore down to earth. These are never quoted by Indians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f2Kgj1nhSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOis6p-jAGA


    Since the JBJ saga, Singapore's identity has become synonymous with Indians and English. Both the number of Indians and the use of English Language have increased.

    Like a typical Indian, Singh has been silent about the ever increasing presence of Indians in Singapore but will make a big issue out of any perceived increase of Chinese. Pritam Singh has expressed concern about rich Chinese migrating to
    Singapore. Not surprising. If they were Indians, they will be welcomed by all Indians. Watch how Indians will use the English Language media to play this up into a big racial issue. Those rich Chinese already in Singapore should be careful about being
    interviewed by the English-language press. They are there with a sinister motive - to dig out dirt to make the Chinese unwelcome and make the government looks bad.

    Pritam Singh is a typical Indian Singaporean. Indians, by race, are not a majority on the island nor in the region. For this reason, they reject any race-based identity locally or regionally. They look for an international or global identity.
    They look for global power to counter local power. They are not committed to Singapore. They want to scoot off anytime when they cannot get any benefit from Singapore. That's why they are concerned about the receptiveness of the Singapore passport around
    the world.That's why they are diehard advocates of the English Language.

    Indian like Pritam Singh is a legacy of the of the JBJ saga. Anti-Chinese racism among the Indians arose out of that. Indians espouse race theories like race-blindness, racial equality, Singaporeans-Singapore, Singapore Identity, English Language
    for social integration and national unity, etc.., as ruses to cover up their anti-Chinese racism. Their preference for the English-language fits into these too. All these add up to say that they don't accept a Chinese-majority Singapore and they want to
    make Singapore more favorable for Indians to settle and live in until it's an Indian-governed or Indian-majority Singapore.

    Like a typical Indian Singaporean, he speaks mouthful about a multi-racial, multi-cultural Singapore but never pays any recognition to its substantial Chinese majority.

    It's time to make it crystal clear to the racial minorities that Singapore is first and foremost a Chinese-majority nation. The Chinese should not have to apologise for asserting their majority rights. In other parts of the world, those rights
    are legislated and legalised.

    Look at the French in Quebec. Quebec is just a province of Canada where French form the majority of the population. The English language is creeping in at the expense of the French language. This is worsen by increasing migrations of non-French
    into Quebec. The French are fighting back to retain the dominance of their ethnicity, especially their language. They enact laws to achieve these.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJu_f2uPDc

    Consider Israel. Like Singapore, its multi-racial and multi-religious and closely linked to the West, especially English-speaking US. English is widely used but the Jewish language of Hebrew is the National Language which is most widely used. It
    would be unthinkable for the Jews to forsake their racial identity and replace it with a national identity in order to to accommodate the various races and religions in Israel.

    Closer to home, there's Malaysia. Here's what it is like over there. Malays-majority rules with a supremacy which cannot be questioned, let alone challenged. Political power is absolutely in the hands of the Malays. The Monarchy is Malays-only.
    The Prime Minister must be a Malay, as an unwritten rule. The language of the Malay majority is truly the National Language, used in every sphere of life. Immigration policies favor the Malays and Muslims from all over the world. As a result, Malay-
    Muslims proportion in the population is on the increase while those of the non-Malays are on the decline due to outward migration.
    Despite all these, Malaysia is not accused of being a racist or xenophobic country. It's internationally accepted. It is able to attract foreign investments and talents. People from various parts of the world are attracted to there to make it
    their second or retirement home.
    It's working well especially for the Malays-majority. Malays' rule is not challenged by the racial minorities. There's racial peace and harmony. Zero case of Malays being beaten up by non-Malays.
    English is still widely used especially in the realm of economy. But there's no such nonsense about using it as a common language for social integration or to bind the various races together. That's reserved for the Malay Language.
    The issue of a non-Malay PM is never discussed. Instead Malaysian reporters and foreign ones based in Malaysia would write about the possibility of a non-Chinese PM of Singapore!

    What are the minority Indians there doing about all these? They just take it all lying down.

    In Singapore, the racial minorities adopt a challenging attitude towards the Chinese majority. Take for example the post of Prime Minister. Since the JBJ saga, the racial minorities, especially Indians, have been pushing for a non-Chinese PM.
    This issue is always posed to the potential Chinese candidate for the next PM. A wrong answer will land that Chinese in trouble. When ex-DPM Heng did not deliver a satisfactory answer, a Malay immediately made a police report against him.

    Why such vast difference in the relationship between the racial majority and the racial minorities in the two neighboring countries? It is simply this. In Malaysia, the Malays leave no doubt who is boss. That's been settled. In Singapore this is
    still in doubt and yet to be settled.

    Singapore started off with this wishy-washy ideal of racial equality. From the very beginning of its founding, Singapore’s leaders have to grapple with myriad of problems related to the ideals of racial equality. The problems continue to grow.
    To this day racial equality and harmony is still considered work-in-progress. Perhaps disaster-in-progress is more accurate since racial problems are increasing as the minority races challenge the Chinese majority for dominance and supremacy in the name
    of racial equality.

    It's about time Singapore reconsiders its model for a multi-racial, multi-religious nation. Either that or it may cease to exist some decades into the future.
    Indians seeking more power in Singapore

    Ethic Indian Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Tharman for short) has decided to run for President.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSoZk6gAA4

    Does he have the PM and the Cabinet support?

    The Presidency is to supposed to be rotated among the races. To ascertain this, a law is in place to only allow members of a specific race to contest in a specific Presidential Election.

    The last three Presidents by race were Chinese Ong Teng Cheong, Indian S.R. Nathan and Malay Halimah Yakob. Among the three, the Indian served the longest, for two terms, totaling 12 years. The next one should be from "Others". This is about racial
    equality and fairness.

    Why is Tharman pushing these aside? The reason he gives for his decision is ridiculous. What rubbish about the changing world. It seems he does not understand the role of the President. Its mostly ceremonial plus two other main ones – appoint
    Ministers and hold the second key to the nation's financial reserves.

    Wrong timing, wrong reason. Why then is he still joining the race for the next President? It's racial. To serve the interest of his race. Before this, the Indians were pushing hard for him to be the the PM. Failing this, they now want him to be
    President. This is manifestation of Indians lust for power in Singapore. Another Indian President, just like the previous ones, would mean more Indians coming over to Singapore. There will be another spike in Indian proportion in the population of
    Singapore.

    Tharman represents only Indians and Indian power in Singapore. But the authority will not dare challenge him lest it will turn into another JBJ Saga. It's left to the ordinary people.

    Non-Indians should not vote for him.
    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/george-goh-run-presidential-election-candidate-harvey-norman-ossia-3555876

    Another candidate has entered the race. Good. It means there will be competition. It would be better if its someone from the 'O' in the CMIO racial categories.

    This Presidential Election is starting off badly. It is not according to the government's plan. Why would the government support another Indian for President after only a gap of 6 six years of the last Indian Presidency of 12 years? This Indian will
    also be running for two terms of 12 years. If he is allowed, there is no guarantee there will not be another Indian who will not vie for the Presidency after him for another 12 years. Tharman has budged in without notice. The government doesn't seem to
    have the strength to say "No!" to him.

    Immediately after Tharman announced his intention, his was praised sky high by his fellow Indians in the English Language media. No mention of his past charges under the Official Secret Acts (OSA). They were hoping it would be a no-contest election.
    Now that Mr. George Goh has step up to be counted, unlike Tharman, he would not be praised. Instead he would be the target of disparagement and disinformation. Indians would look deep into his 40 years of business dealings and accounts to dig out any
    tiny dirt they can uncover and blow it out of proportion. His announcement may be the beginning of a nightmare for him.

    The reason Tharman gave for running for the Presidency is questionable. In what ways is the world changing that have prompted him to run for the Presidency? How would he as the President of Singapore influence those ways?

    Let's see. The world is witnessing the rise of China. It's influence in the world, especially in the Asia-Pacific region, is increasing. In this regard, Chinese-majority Singapore stands out among nations in the Asia-Pacific. Indians in Singapore
    would not like to see this happen.
    India is the favorite dog that the US is using to keep watch over China in Asia. The US has justified India's presence in the Asia-Paific region by defining the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean as one ocean of Indo-Pacific. India is lapping it all
    up.

    As President, Tharman will have the power to reduce China's influence in Singapore and keep Singapore close to India and the US. India's, instead of China's, influence will grow in Singapore. All good for the Indo-American dialliance. It's not
    surprising if it's the Americans who have suggested that he make a run for the next President of Singapore.
    This is racism – Indian racism. It's about Indians gaining more political power and challenging Chinese-majority rule more strongly. That's the reason why this Indian is defying protocol to run for President..


    Even before he is elected, signs of Indian racism are emerging.

    Indian-infested Straits Times ran an article about Indian diaspora being more influential than the Chinese one.
    https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/india-s-diaspora-is-bigger-and-more-influential-than-any-in-history
    CNA – Channel News Aneh and China/Chinese Not Allowed devoted a long segment of a news with only Indian views on the India-China border dispute
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYyRnxTZrw

    Judgement of dispute between Indian and Chinese passed – in favor of the Indian of course.

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-convicted-of-kicking-woman-and-using-racial-insults-for-not-masking-up

    There will be more to come. This Indian, if he becomes President, like the previous one, will not want Chinese to be heard spoken within his earshot. He too will block the appointment of Chinese Ministers who are deemed unfriendly towards Indians.

    He will definitely want to serve for 12 year. No one will be able to stop him. After him, another Indian from the PAP will step forward for the next Presidential term. It will be one Indian after another. Singapore's Presidency will become a permanent
    Indian Presidency.

    It's up to the voters now. They should realise that voting for this guy is voting for more Indian power and more Indian challenges to Chinese-majority rule in Singapore.

    The Indians will claim that their fellow President has more legitimacy, and therefore more power, than the PM because he/she is directly elected by the people.

    To stop the Presidency from becoming a target of racial politics, things should revert to the old ways. That is, the President is appointed, rotated among the four racial categories of CMIO and its role is strictly ceremonial.


    More Indians power in Singapore. When one Indian is about to become the next President, two Indian Ministers (one-and- half to be more precise, since one is a Chindian) get away with using their power to enjoy special privileges.

    Everything is wrong with the two Ministers and their Ridout Rd State Property rental.

    These colonial era bungalows with big land space are mostly available to foreign companies to house their top executives. This is one of many incentives to attract foreign investments to Singapore.

    Before Shanmugam and Balakrishnan, have any other government officials deemed it fit to get access to these properties?

    The reasons both give are most incredible. They want to house their extended family, to live with their children. Their grown-up children has not grown up to be independent adults and still want to stick to their mummies and pappies? In the case of
    Shanmugan, his son's company is located in India. The son would be spending more time in India than Singapore.

    Both Ministers have enjoyed privileges of office. Both claimed that the buildings were old and damaged. So what? They know fully well that public money would be used to turn the estates into a much better state. In the case of Shanmugan, there's even a
    swimming pool thrown in.

    Most recent privilege. The rental/lease period for such properties has been increased. Both can be expected to hold on to the properties for a long time, even after they leave office, perhaps only death will do them and their properties part.

    Some Indian monkey business is going on here. Both are Indians, one full and one half (Chindian). Why only Indian Ministers? If it's a good idea and a good deal, why haven't they share it with their fellow Ministers, encouraging them to rent such
    properties too?

    No investigation is complete without going through the communications, electronics and non-electronics, of these two Ministers. This has not been done while investigations have concluded they have done nothing wrong.

    These two Ministers have set a very bad precedent. Following them, more Ministers and other high government officials too will want live in such spacious properties. More land will have to be used to house them. Ordinary Singaporeans will be squeezed
    into less available space.

    If these two Ministers are true to their words in wanting to serve the nation and its people, they should give up on the rentals and return the properties to the State.

    These properties are vestiges of Singapore's British Colonial past. They belong to the era of the British Empire. Two good reasons why they should be demolished.

    1. It makes those foreigners living in them feel and behave like modern day colonialists, living apart and aloft from Singaporeans.

    2. They should have no place in congested 21st century Singapore. Demolishing them will reduce the need for the nation to build higher and higher towards the sky and deeper and deeper into the ground.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From dosai prata@21:1/5 to decadence thlon on Sat Jul 29 07:46:23 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    Going forward, what role should English play in the continuing nation building of Singapore? For that, one has to take into consideration the sensitivities of the Malays. Malays in Singapore, like those in Malaysia, would not accept English
    in anyway which can diminish their racial status. To them, it is the language of those who colonised their land and brought in the 'pendatang' to overwhelm them. To use English to integrate the races? Or use it as the language of cultures where culture
    activities are conducted in English? What about mosque sermons being conducted in English? These will create racial conflicts.


    One attribute that all races can accept for any language is its economic values. The language should be able to create wealth, provide good jobs, being the tool for scientific and technological advances. That's how a language should be
    accepted for common use in multi-racial, multi-religious Singapore.This language should change with time. Today it's English. Tomorrow it may not be. As another language is seen to be upcoming with good economic values for Singapore, we should not
    hesitate to pick it up, even if it's the language of one of our races.


    Don't listen to Singaporean-Indians on immigration rules or policies. They only have one thing in mind, i.e., to bring in more of their own kind.
    On Feb 27 during the Committee of Supply debates, Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh said that he would advocate for an English test when assessing a person's application for citizenship or permanent residency in Singapore. He was criticised
    for this.

    It prompted CNA, Channel News Aneh, to carry out a survey. The results are now published within a long article.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/english-test-new-citizens-pr-application-survey-3368571?cid=internal_mcdrecs_03042023_mcs#mdcrecs_s

    Besides the results of the survey, there are also opinions and anecdotes from public personalities, leading to a conclusion that supports the MP. This is to make it hard for the government not to accept MP Pritam Singh’s suggestion, which is
    the purpose of this journalistic effort.

    One thing about survey. It can be manipulated. First, you decide the result you want and then you conduct the survey in a way which will lead to the desired result.

    The article took the extra effort to show the survey results based on ethnic distribution, indicating that a large majority of Chinese agrees with Singh’s suggestion. This is not surprising because Singapore has only English education with
    vernacular language taught as a subject since independence. There may be other factors such as the age and geographical distribution.

    Still, a survey without any background knowledge or analysis does not convey accurate decisions of those surveyed.

    In the article, a Professor provided the critical background knowledge along with some statistics.
    “Asst Prof Ang noted that as Singapore’s total fertility rate continues to fall, the nation has looked towards immigration to supplement the population and workforce.
    Based on data from the Singapore Census 2020, 72.3 per cent of Singapore residents born outside Singapore are literate in English.
    Focusing on the top three countries of origin (India, Malaysia and China), the English literacy level among those from China was the lowest at 61.8 per cent, Asst Prof Ang said.
    “Because a large proportion (62.3 per cent) of the overall resident population is Chinese-literate, Chinese immigrants may feel little need to learn another language. But this means that members from the minority races may not be able to
    communicate with them,” he added."

    The nation’s falling fertility makes it necessary to increase immigration. But it’s the Chinese fertility rate that is falling. We should increase the immigration of Chinese. Yet India is the top country of origin of Singapore residents
    born outside Singapore.

    With these as background, the question for the survey should be: India is currently the top country of origin of Singapore residents born outside Singapore. English Language test for Singapore citizenship and PR would favor Indians. Is it fair to require an English Language test for new immigrants?

    A false claim about the English Language:
    “Adding that Singaporeans "do not want new citizens who don’t want to live here but only want the power of the Singapore passport for their convenience", Mr Singh asked: “Is a working proficiency in English a criteria for citizenship for
    better integration between new citizens and Singaporeans of all races and religions, since English is our main language of communication?”

    It’s not new citizens but the racial minorities that are concerned about the international acceptance of the Singapore Passport. Every time someone suggests promoting the use of Chinese language, the minorities would respond that that would
    make the Singapore Passport less welcomed around the world.

    There are other factors more important than the English language for social integration. For example, no matter how proficiency you are in English, if you carry a strong body odor, few would want to come near you. Those who have the stink and
    still mix in with a crowd would be considered to be lacking in social responsibility. Those who clean the arses with their hands would be worse. No matter how high their level of English proficiency, it will not help them in social integration.

    A more assuring criterion for social integration would be having a common ethnic identity with the substantial Chinese majority.

    Whether it’s to make up for the falling fertility rate or for the sake of social integration, Singapore needs more Chinese, not Indians, migrants. Using English test for Citizenship and PR applications would produce the opposite effect.

    Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-religious nation with four official languages. If language were to be used as a criterion to determine citizenship and PR, then any of the official languages will do.

    MP Pritam Singh's suggestion and Channel News Aneh report on the issue are both not worthy of further attention. The authority should ignore them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIztnCYPvJE

    Pritam Singh still insists on using English Test to determine new citizenship and PR, using the CNA survey and quoting LKY from 1986 to back it up. He went on to advocate the role of English as a common language to bind all Singaporeans together.

    New citizens and PRs are valued for their talents. Talents around the world don't come English-speaking-only. By restricting them to the English-proficient, Singapore would be narrowing down the sources of talents to those from English-speaking
    countries, the most populous of which would be India. Perhaps that's the reason for this Indian MP proposal.

    No matter who or what had been said or written about it, has the more common use of the English Language resulted in better social cohesion and integration among Singaporeans old and new? No. On the contrary, it has resulted in more racial
    disputes and fights between Indians and Chinese. All the following incidents happened after 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E3z7mPVReQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-6slteu1ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNOq9vUbd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtqlAGhYYk
    Not to mention the murders of Chinese by Indians.

    Chinese being cursed, swore at, beaten up and murdered by Indians, all done in English. Is this what English for social integration all about?


    LKY lived long enough to realise he was wrong. He foresaw the danger of the increasing proportion of Indians in the population. He publicly expressed his fear that today they contribute to the economy, tomorrow they will demand political power.
    He had to remind the Indians to accept Chinese-majority rule. He brought those Indians who espoused racial equality and a Singaporeans-Singapore down to earth. These are never quoted by Indians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f2Kgj1nhSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOis6p-jAGA


    Since the JBJ saga, Singapore's identity has become synonymous with Indians and English. Both the number of Indians and the use of English Language have increased.

    Like a typical Indian, Singh has been silent about the ever increasing presence of Indians in Singapore but will make a big issue out of any perceived increase of Chinese. Pritam Singh has expressed concern about rich Chinese migrating to
    Singapore. Not surprising. If they were Indians, they will be welcomed by all Indians. Watch how Indians will use the English Language media to play this up into a big racial issue. Those rich Chinese already in Singapore should be careful about being
    interviewed by the English-language press. They are there with a sinister motive - to dig out dirt to make the Chinese unwelcome and make the government looks bad.

    Pritam Singh is a typical Indian Singaporean. Indians, by race, are not a majority on the island nor in the region. For this reason, they reject any race-based identity locally or regionally. They look for an international or global identity.
    They look for global power to counter local power. They are not committed to Singapore. They want to scoot off anytime when they cannot get any benefit from Singapore. That's why they are concerned about the receptiveness of the Singapore passport around
    the world.That's why they are diehard advocates of the English Language.

    Indian like Pritam Singh is a legacy of the of the JBJ saga. Anti-Chinese racism among the Indians arose out of that. Indians espouse race theories like race-blindness, racial equality, Singaporeans-Singapore, Singapore Identity, English Language
    for social integration and national unity, etc.., as ruses to cover up their anti-Chinese racism. Their preference for the English-language fits into these too. All these add up to say that they don't accept a Chinese-majority Singapore and they want to
    make Singapore more favorable for Indians to settle and live in until it's an Indian-governed or Indian-majority Singapore.

    Like a typical Indian Singaporean, he speaks mouthful about a multi-racial, multi-cultural Singapore but never pays any recognition to its substantial Chinese majority.

    It's time to make it crystal clear to the racial minorities that Singapore is first and foremost a Chinese-majority nation. The Chinese should not have to apologise for asserting their majority rights. In other parts of the world, those rights
    are legislated and legalised.

    Look at the French in Quebec. Quebec is just a province of Canada where French form the majority of the population. The English language is creeping in at the expense of the French language. This is worsen by increasing migrations of non-French
    into Quebec. The French are fighting back to retain the dominance of their ethnicity, especially their language. They enact laws to achieve these.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJu_f2uPDc

    Consider Israel. Like Singapore, its multi-racial and multi-religious and closely linked to the West, especially English-speaking US. English is widely used but the Jewish language of Hebrew is the National Language which is most widely used. It
    would be unthinkable for the Jews to forsake their racial identity and replace it with a national identity in order to to accommodate the various races and religions in Israel.

    Closer to home, there's Malaysia. Here's what it is like over there. Malays-majority rules with a supremacy which cannot be questioned, let alone challenged. Political power is absolutely in the hands of the Malays. The Monarchy is Malays-only.
    The Prime Minister must be a Malay, as an unwritten rule. The language of the Malay majority is truly the National Language, used in every sphere of life. Immigration policies favor the Malays and Muslims from all over the world. As a result, Malay-
    Muslims proportion in the population is on the increase while those of the non-Malays are on the decline due to outward migration.
    Despite all these, Malaysia is not accused of being a racist or xenophobic country. It's internationally accepted. It is able to attract foreign investments and talents. People from various parts of the world are attracted to there to make it
    their second or retirement home.
    It's working well especially for the Malays-majority. Malays' rule is not challenged by the racial minorities. There's racial peace and harmony. Zero case of Malays being beaten up by non-Malays.
    English is still widely used especially in the realm of economy. But there's no such nonsense about using it as a common language for social integration or to bind the various races together. That's reserved for the Malay Language.
    The issue of a non-Malay PM is never discussed. Instead Malaysian reporters and foreign ones based in Malaysia would write about the possibility of a non-Chinese PM of Singapore!

    What are the minority Indians there doing about all these? They just take it all lying down.

    In Singapore, the racial minorities adopt a challenging attitude towards the Chinese majority. Take for example the post of Prime Minister. Since the JBJ saga, the racial minorities, especially Indians, have been pushing for a non-Chinese PM.
    This issue is always posed to the potential Chinese candidate for the next PM. A wrong answer will land that Chinese in trouble. When ex-DPM Heng did not deliver a satisfactory answer, a Malay immediately made a police report against him.

    Why such vast difference in the relationship between the racial majority and the racial minorities in the two neighboring countries? It is simply this. In Malaysia, the Malays leave no doubt who is boss. That's been settled. In Singapore this is
    still in doubt and yet to be settled.

    Singapore started off with this wishy-washy ideal of racial equality. From the very beginning of its founding, Singapore’s leaders have to grapple with myriad of problems related to the ideals of racial equality. The problems continue to grow.
    To this day racial equality and harmony is still considered work-in-progress. Perhaps disaster-in-progress is more accurate since racial problems are increasing as the minority races challenge the Chinese majority for dominance and supremacy in the name
    of racial equality.

    It's about time Singapore reconsiders its model for a multi-racial, multi-religious nation. Either that or it may cease to exist some decades into the future.
    Indians seeking more power in Singapore

    Ethic Indian Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Tharman for short) has decided to run for President.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSoZk6gAA4

    Does he have the PM and the Cabinet support?

    The Presidency is to supposed to be rotated among the races. To ascertain this, a law is in place to only allow members of a specific race to contest in a specific Presidential Election.

    The last three Presidents by race were Chinese Ong Teng Cheong, Indian S.R. Nathan and Malay Halimah Yakob. Among the three, the Indian served the longest, for two terms, totaling 12 years. The next one should be from "Others". This is about racial
    equality and fairness.

    Why is Tharman pushing these aside? The reason he gives for his decision is ridiculous. What rubbish about the changing world. It seems he does not understand the role of the President. Its mostly ceremonial plus two other main ones – appoint
    Ministers and hold the second key to the nation's financial reserves.

    Wrong timing, wrong reason. Why then is he still joining the race for the next President? It's racial. To serve the interest of his race. Before this, the Indians were pushing hard for him to be the the PM. Failing this, they now want him to be
    President. This is manifestation of Indians lust for power in Singapore. Another Indian President, just like the previous ones, would mean more Indians coming over to Singapore. There will be another spike in Indian proportion in the population of
    Singapore.

    Tharman represents only Indians and Indian power in Singapore. But the authority will not dare challenge him lest it will turn into another JBJ Saga. It's left to the ordinary people.

    Non-Indians should not vote for him.
    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/george-goh-run-presidential-election-candidate-harvey-norman-ossia-3555876

    Another candidate has entered the race. Good. It means there will be competition. It would be better if its someone from the 'O' in the CMIO racial categories.

    This Presidential Election is starting off badly. It is not according to the government's plan. Why would the government support another Indian for President after only a gap of 6 six years of the last Indian Presidency of 12 years? This Indian will
    also be running for two terms of 12 years. If he is allowed, there is no guarantee there will not be another Indian who will not vie for the Presidency after him for another 12 years. Tharman has budged in without notice. The government doesn't seem to
    have the strength to say "No!" to him.

    Immediately after Tharman announced his intention, his was praised sky high by his fellow Indians in the English Language media. No mention of his past charges under the Official Secret Acts (OSA). They were hoping it would be a no-contest election.
    Now that Mr. George Goh has step up to be counted, unlike Tharman, he would not be praised. Instead he would be the target of disparagement and disinformation. Indians would look deep into his 40 years of business dealings and accounts to dig out any
    tiny dirt they can uncover and blow it out of proportion. His announcement may be the beginning of a nightmare for him.

    The reason Tharman gave for running for the Presidency is questionable. In what ways is the world changing that have prompted him to run for the Presidency? How would he as the President of Singapore influence those ways?

    Let's see. The world is witnessing the rise of China. It's influence in the world, especially in the Asia-Pacific region, is increasing. In this regard, Chinese-majority Singapore stands out among nations in the Asia-Pacific. Indians in Singapore
    would not like to see this happen.
    India is the favorite dog that the US is using to keep watch over China in Asia. The US has justified India's presence in the Asia-Paific region by defining the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean as one ocean of Indo-Pacific. India is lapping it all
    up.

    As President, Tharman will have the power to reduce China's influence in Singapore and keep Singapore close to India and the US. India's, instead of China's, influence will grow in Singapore. All good for the Indo-American dialliance. It's not
    surprising if it's the Americans who have suggested that he make a run for the next President of Singapore.
    This is racism – Indian racism. It's about Indians gaining more political power and challenging Chinese-majority rule more strongly. That's the reason why this Indian is defying protocol to run for President..


    Even before he is elected, signs of Indian racism are emerging.

    Indian-infested Straits Times ran an article about Indian diaspora being more influential than the Chinese one.
    https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/india-s-diaspora-is-bigger-and-more-influential-than-any-in-history
    CNA – Channel News Aneh and China/Chinese Not Allowed devoted a long segment of a news with only Indian views on the India-China border dispute
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYyRnxTZrw

    Judgement of dispute between Indian and Chinese passed – in favor of the Indian of course.

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-convicted-of-kicking-woman-and-using-racial-insults-for-not-masking-up

    There will be more to come. This Indian, if he becomes President, like the previous one, will not want Chinese to be heard spoken within his earshot. He too will block the appointment of Chinese Ministers who are deemed unfriendly towards Indians.

    He will definitely want to serve for 12 year. No one will be able to stop him. After him, another Indian from the PAP will step forward for the next Presidential term. It will be one Indian after another. Singapore's Presidency will become a permanent
    Indian Presidency.

    It's up to the voters now. They should realise that voting for this guy is voting for more Indian power and more Indian challenges to Chinese-majority rule in Singapore.

    The Indians will claim that their fellow President has more legitimacy, and therefore more power, than the PM because he/she is directly elected by the people.

    To stop the Presidency from becoming a target of racial politics, things should revert to the old ways. That is, the President is appointed, rotated among the four racial categories of CMIO and its role is strictly ceremonial.


    Tharman for President?

    His claim of rights to the Presidency?
    His ability, with international standings.
    He will represent a New Era.
    How he will serve Singapore's interest in a transitional and changing world.


    Individual ability
    What is he good at? Head of MAS and other organisations? International status, leading international organisations? That's riding on the reputation of Singapore. Nothing to do with his individual ability.
    Under his charge, the latest loss incurred by MAS is 30+ billions. His fellow Indian in the English Language dismisses this as only a sideshow! Shouldn't this disqualify him from the competition? Under his tenure, MAS was more concerned about how
    angpows and the printing of new dollar notes would adversely affect climate change than the financial health of Singapore.


    A New Era President?
    What New Era is he talking about? He's another English-and-England-educated Anglophile that belongs to the Days of the British Empire which is long gone. He's a relic of the past. A dinosaur.
    The rise of China has brought on the Dawn of a New Era upon the world. How many Singaporeans are aware of this? They are still living in the dark world of Western superiority because Singapore's English Language media mostly echo the negative news about
    China from the West. An Indian Anglophile President will continue to keep Singapore in such darkness. There will no New Era or Dawn.
    A Tharman Presidency will keep Singapore stagnant in the bygone era of British Imperialism and Colonialism. His Presidency would mean more Indians and wider use of the English Language in Singapore.


    A world in transition and change. How relevant is a Tharman Presidency in such a world?
    Until now, he hasn't been forthright with the reason he wants to be President. He's talking about a changing world and its crises. "The world is in transition", "The world is changing."

    The world is always in transition. It's always changing. Hasn't he heard of the wise maxim "Change is the only Constant"?

    Can the President of Singapore help to solve international and world crises and influence a transitional and changing world? That would involve global and international politics which is beyond the role of Singapore's President. That's for the PM. Is
    he going to be a President with the power of a PM? Or is he preparing himself to take over the PM's job?

    It's precisely because of the change in geo- and global-politics that Tharman should not be the President of Singapore.
    Here's why.
    Years ago, the US has already postulated a paradigm shift in its global strategy from Christian-Judeo vs Muslim Conflict to Big Power Conflict. Big Power Conflict in the foreseeable decades will be US vs China. This Conflict is not confined to both
    countries only. It includes countries with like-minded ideology of democracy and Western "universal" values. India stands out among them. India is in cahoots with the US to go against China and Chinese everywhere, doing it with increasing enthusiasm
    and antagonism. Due to this, the Conflict is spread further among the Indian and Chinese diaporas around the world.

    India has become the US favorite counterweight against China. It's at the forefront of US geopolitical strategy for Asia. It has become American's guard dog over Asia. Already, Asia-Pacific has become Indo-Pacific to both. Worse, the Indo-American
    Dalliance is stirring up Indian racism around the world.

    This has a direct bearing on multiracial Singapore with Indians among its population. Singapore, being the only Chinese-run nation in the world outside of China, is viewed with suspicion, as a possible threat, to Indo-American geopolitics in Asia-
    Pacific and South-east Asia. Chinese-majority Singapore has become a target of Indo-American geopolitics.

    One glaring example here. A US newspaper with Indian reporters casting aspersions on a local Chinese Language newspaper in Singapore.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/singapore-china-news-influence-lianhe-zaobao/


    Its not just a Chinese Language newspaper. The whole of Singapore is now under the radar of Indo-American geopolitics. Its being watched closely. US and India would prefer that Singapore come under their influence rather than that of China. One way to
    achieve this would be to increase the political power of Indians in Singapore. The best would be if one of Singapore's ethnic Indians becomes its national leader. India has a further design on Singapore. It wants to turn Singapore into be another
    destination which it can release its exploding population to - a Singapore with increasing Indian population with increasing political power. India has not forgotten the Indian Singapura of the Kalinga and Temasek era.

    Therefore, under current world situation, having an Indian President in Singapore would be detrimental to the nation and its ethnic Chinese. An Indian President would scheme to place Singapore in the Indo-American camp and sacrifice Singapore to
    serve the interest of the Indo-American Dalliance.

    Tharman is working hard to camouflage the truth. He is sparing no effort to show how well he can get along with Chinese. Non-Indian voters, especially Chinese, should be aware of what an Indian President would mean for them. Don't be misled by the
    attractive campaign that Tharman has mounted to promote himself for the Presidency, surrounding himself with Chinese VIPs and OP (Ordinary People) and spouting slogan about Singaporean Identity.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From gerard jud@21:1/5 to dosai prata on Sat Jul 29 20:02:13 2023
    [continued from previous message]

    After the JBJ saga, when the Indians began to challenge Chinese-majority rule, they adopted the same racist attitude towards the Chinese Language, as the non-Malays did towards the Malay Language in Malaysia. Even though English was already
    prevalent then, they still consider Chinese Language inferior to English Language and want the the latter to replace the former wherever possible. To them, that's one important way to reduce the Chinese-majority dominance.Their job was made easy by LKY,
    an English-and-England-educated Anglophile. They also found support from those whose livelihoods depend solely on the language such as those in the English Language media.


    Going forward, what role should English play in the continuing nation building of Singapore? For that, one has to take into consideration the sensitivities of the Malays. Malays in Singapore, like those in Malaysia, would not accept English
    in anyway which can diminish their racial status. To them, it is the language of those who colonised their land and brought in the 'pendatang' to overwhelm them. To use English to integrate the races? Or use it as the language of cultures where culture
    activities are conducted in English? What about mosque sermons being conducted in English? These will create racial conflicts.


    One attribute that all races can accept for any language is its economic values. The language should be able to create wealth, provide good jobs, being the tool for scientific and technological advances. That's how a language should be
    accepted for common use in multi-racial, multi-religious Singapore.This language should change with time. Today it's English. Tomorrow it may not be. As another language is seen to be upcoming with good economic values for Singapore, we should not
    hesitate to pick it up, even if it's the language of one of our races.


    Don't listen to Singaporean-Indians on immigration rules or policies. They only have one thing in mind, i.e., to bring in more of their own kind.
    On Feb 27 during the Committee of Supply debates, Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh said that he would advocate for an English test when assessing a person's application for citizenship or permanent residency in Singapore. He was
    criticised for this.

    It prompted CNA, Channel News Aneh, to carry out a survey. The results are now published within a long article.

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/english-test-new-citizens-pr-application-survey-3368571?cid=internal_mcdrecs_03042023_mcs#mdcrecs_s

    Besides the results of the survey, there are also opinions and anecdotes from public personalities, leading to a conclusion that supports the MP. This is to make it hard for the government not to accept MP Pritam Singh’s suggestion, which
    is the purpose of this journalistic effort.

    One thing about survey. It can be manipulated. First, you decide the result you want and then you conduct the survey in a way which will lead to the desired result.

    The article took the extra effort to show the survey results based on ethnic distribution, indicating that a large majority of Chinese agrees with Singh’s suggestion. This is not surprising because Singapore has only English education with
    vernacular language taught as a subject since independence. There may be other factors such as the age and geographical distribution.

    Still, a survey without any background knowledge or analysis does not convey accurate decisions of those surveyed.

    In the article, a Professor provided the critical background knowledge along with some statistics.
    “Asst Prof Ang noted that as Singapore’s total fertility rate continues to fall, the nation has looked towards immigration to supplement the population and workforce.
    Based on data from the Singapore Census 2020, 72.3 per cent of Singapore residents born outside Singapore are literate in English.
    Focusing on the top three countries of origin (India, Malaysia and China), the English literacy level among those from China was the lowest at 61.8 per cent, Asst Prof Ang said.
    “Because a large proportion (62.3 per cent) of the overall resident population is Chinese-literate, Chinese immigrants may feel little need to learn another language. But this means that members from the minority races may not be able to
    communicate with them,” he added."

    The nation’s falling fertility makes it necessary to increase immigration. But it’s the Chinese fertility rate that is falling. We should increase the immigration of Chinese. Yet India is the top country of origin of Singapore residents
    born outside Singapore.

    With these as background, the question for the survey should be: India is currently the top country of origin of Singapore residents born outside Singapore. English Language test for Singapore citizenship and PR would favor Indians. Is it fair to require an English Language test for new immigrants?

    A false claim about the English Language:
    “Adding that Singaporeans "do not want new citizens who don’t want to live here but only want the power of the Singapore passport for their convenience", Mr Singh asked: “Is a working proficiency in English a criteria for citizenship
    for better integration between new citizens and Singaporeans of all races and religions, since English is our main language of communication?”

    It’s not new citizens but the racial minorities that are concerned about the international acceptance of the Singapore Passport. Every time someone suggests promoting the use of Chinese language, the minorities would respond that that would
    make the Singapore Passport less welcomed around the world.

    There are other factors more important than the English language for social integration. For example, no matter how proficiency you are in English, if you carry a strong body odor, few would want to come near you. Those who have the stink and
    still mix in with a crowd would be considered to be lacking in social responsibility. Those who clean the arses with their hands would be worse. No matter how high their level of English proficiency, it will not help them in social integration.

    A more assuring criterion for social integration would be having a common ethnic identity with the substantial Chinese majority.

    Whether it’s to make up for the falling fertility rate or for the sake of social integration, Singapore needs more Chinese, not Indians, migrants. Using English test for Citizenship and PR applications would produce the opposite effect.

    Lastly, Singapore is a multi-racial, multi-religious nation with four official languages. If language were to be used as a criterion to determine citizenship and PR, then any of the official languages will do.

    MP Pritam Singh's suggestion and Channel News Aneh report on the issue are both not worthy of further attention. The authority should ignore them.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIztnCYPvJE

    Pritam Singh still insists on using English Test to determine new citizenship and PR, using the CNA survey and quoting LKY from 1986 to back it up. He went on to advocate the role of English as a common language to bind all Singaporeans
    together.

    New citizens and PRs are valued for their talents. Talents around the world don't come English-speaking-only. By restricting them to the English-proficient, Singapore would be narrowing down the sources of talents to those from English-speaking
    countries, the most populous of which would be India. Perhaps that's the reason for this Indian MP proposal.

    No matter who or what had been said or written about it, has the more common use of the English Language resulted in better social cohesion and integration among Singaporeans old and new? No. On the contrary, it has resulted in more racial
    disputes and fights between Indians and Chinese. All the following incidents happened after 1986.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5E3z7mPVReQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-6slteu1ws https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNOq9vUbd4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAtqlAGhYYk
    Not to mention the murders of Chinese by Indians.

    Chinese being cursed, swore at, beaten up and murdered by Indians, all done in English. Is this what English for social integration all about?


    LKY lived long enough to realise he was wrong. He foresaw the danger of the increasing proportion of Indians in the population. He publicly expressed his fear that today they contribute to the economy, tomorrow they will demand political power.
    He had to remind the Indians to accept Chinese-majority rule. He brought those Indians who espoused racial equality and a Singaporeans-Singapore down to earth. These are never quoted by Indians.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f2Kgj1nhSQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOis6p-jAGA


    Since the JBJ saga, Singapore's identity has become synonymous with Indians and English. Both the number of Indians and the use of English Language have increased.

    Like a typical Indian, Singh has been silent about the ever increasing presence of Indians in Singapore but will make a big issue out of any perceived increase of Chinese. Pritam Singh has expressed concern about rich Chinese migrating to
    Singapore. Not surprising. If they were Indians, they will be welcomed by all Indians. Watch how Indians will use the English Language media to play this up into a big racial issue. Those rich Chinese already in Singapore should be careful about being
    interviewed by the English-language press. They are there with a sinister motive - to dig out dirt to make the Chinese unwelcome and make the government looks bad.

    Pritam Singh is a typical Indian Singaporean. Indians, by race, are not a majority on the island nor in the region. For this reason, they reject any race-based identity locally or regionally. They look for an international or global identity.
    They look for global power to counter local power. They are not committed to Singapore. They want to scoot off anytime when they cannot get any benefit from Singapore. That's why they are concerned about the receptiveness of the Singapore passport around
    the world.That's why they are diehard advocates of the English Language.

    Indian like Pritam Singh is a legacy of the of the JBJ saga. Anti-Chinese racism among the Indians arose out of that. Indians espouse race theories like race-blindness, racial equality, Singaporeans-Singapore, Singapore Identity, English
    Language for social integration and national unity, etc.., as ruses to cover up their anti-Chinese racism. Their preference for the English-language fits into these too. All these add up to say that they don't accept a Chinese-majority Singapore and they
    want to make Singapore more favorable for Indians to settle and live in until it's an Indian-governed or Indian-majority Singapore.

    Like a typical Indian Singaporean, he speaks mouthful about a multi-racial, multi-cultural Singapore but never pays any recognition to its substantial Chinese majority.

    It's time to make it crystal clear to the racial minorities that Singapore is first and foremost a Chinese-majority nation. The Chinese should not have to apologise for asserting their majority rights. In other parts of the world, those rights
    are legislated and legalised.

    Look at the French in Quebec. Quebec is just a province of Canada where French form the majority of the population. The English language is creeping in at the expense of the French language. This is worsen by increasing migrations of non-French
    into Quebec. The French are fighting back to retain the dominance of their ethnicity, especially their language. They enact laws to achieve these.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJu_f2uPDc

    Consider Israel. Like Singapore, its multi-racial and multi-religious and closely linked to the West, especially English-speaking US. English is widely used but the Jewish language of Hebrew is the National Language which is most widely used.
    It would be unthinkable for the Jews to forsake their racial identity and replace it with a national identity in order to to accommodate the various races and religions in Israel.

    Closer to home, there's Malaysia. Here's what it is like over there. Malays-majority rules with a supremacy which cannot be questioned, let alone challenged. Political power is absolutely in the hands of the Malays. The Monarchy is Malays-only.
    The Prime Minister must be a Malay, as an unwritten rule. The language of the Malay majority is truly the National Language, used in every sphere of life. Immigration policies favor the Malays and Muslims from all over the world. As a result, Malay-
    Muslims proportion in the population is on the increase while those of the non-Malays are on the decline due to outward migration.
    Despite all these, Malaysia is not accused of being a racist or xenophobic country. It's internationally accepted. It is able to attract foreign investments and talents. People from various parts of the world are attracted to there to make it
    their second or retirement home.
    It's working well especially for the Malays-majority. Malays' rule is not challenged by the racial minorities. There's racial peace and harmony. Zero case of Malays being beaten up by non-Malays.
    English is still widely used especially in the realm of economy. But there's no such nonsense about using it as a common language for social integration or to bind the various races together. That's reserved for the Malay Language.
    The issue of a non-Malay PM is never discussed. Instead Malaysian reporters and foreign ones based in Malaysia would write about the possibility of a non-Chinese PM of Singapore!

    What are the minority Indians there doing about all these? They just take it all lying down.

    In Singapore, the racial minorities adopt a challenging attitude towards the Chinese majority. Take for example the post of Prime Minister. Since the JBJ saga, the racial minorities, especially Indians, have been pushing for a non-Chinese PM.
    This issue is always posed to the potential Chinese candidate for the next PM. A wrong answer will land that Chinese in trouble. When ex-DPM Heng did not deliver a satisfactory answer, a Malay immediately made a police report against him.

    Why such vast difference in the relationship between the racial majority and the racial minorities in the two neighboring countries? It is simply this. In Malaysia, the Malays leave no doubt who is boss. That's been settled. In Singapore this
    is still in doubt and yet to be settled.

    Singapore started off with this wishy-washy ideal of racial equality. From the very beginning of its founding, Singapore’s leaders have to grapple with myriad of problems related to the ideals of racial equality. The problems continue to grow.
    To this day racial equality and harmony is still considered work-in-progress. Perhaps disaster-in-progress is more accurate since racial problems are increasing as the minority races challenge the Chinese majority for dominance and supremacy in the name
    of racial equality.

    It's about time Singapore reconsiders its model for a multi-racial, multi-religious nation. Either that or it may cease to exist some decades into the future.
    Indians seeking more power in Singapore

    Ethic Indian Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Tharman for short) has decided to run for President.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjSoZk6gAA4

    Does he have the PM and the Cabinet support?

    The Presidency is to supposed to be rotated among the races. To ascertain this, a law is in place to only allow members of a specific race to contest in a specific Presidential Election.

    The last three Presidents by race were Chinese Ong Teng Cheong, Indian S.R. Nathan and Malay Halimah Yakob. Among the three, the Indian served the longest, for two terms, totaling 12 years. The next one should be from "Others". This is about
    racial equality and fairness.

    Why is Tharman pushing these aside? The reason he gives for his decision is ridiculous. What rubbish about the changing world. It seems he does not understand the role of the President. Its mostly ceremonial plus two other main ones – appoint
    Ministers and hold the second key to the nation's financial reserves.

    Wrong timing, wrong reason. Why then is he still joining the race for the next President? It's racial. To serve the interest of his race. Before this, the Indians were pushing hard for him to be the the PM. Failing this, they now want him to be
    President. This is manifestation of Indians lust for power in Singapore. Another Indian President, just like the previous ones, would mean more Indians coming over to Singapore. There will be another spike in Indian proportion in the population of
    Singapore.

    Tharman represents only Indians and Indian power in Singapore. But the authority will not dare challenge him lest it will turn into another JBJ Saga. It's left to the ordinary people.

    Non-Indians should not vote for him.
    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/george-goh-run-presidential-election-candidate-harvey-norman-ossia-3555876

    Another candidate has entered the race. Good. It means there will be competition. It would be better if its someone from the 'O' in the CMIO racial categories.

    This Presidential Election is starting off badly. It is not according to the government's plan. Why would the government support another Indian for President after only a gap of 6 six years of the last Indian Presidency of 12 years? This Indian
    will also be running for two terms of 12 years. If he is allowed, there is no guarantee there will not be another Indian who will not vie for the Presidency after him for another 12 years. Tharman has budged in without notice. The government doesn't seem
    to have the strength to say "No!" to him.

    Immediately after Tharman announced his intention, his was praised sky high by his fellow Indians in the English Language media. No mention of his past charges under the Official Secret Acts (OSA). They were hoping it would be a no-contest election.
    Now that Mr. George Goh has step up to be counted, unlike Tharman, he would not be praised. Instead he would be the target of disparagement and disinformation. Indians would look deep into his 40 years of business dealings and accounts to dig out any
    tiny dirt they can uncover and blow it out of proportion. His announcement may be the beginning of a nightmare for him.

    The reason Tharman gave for running for the Presidency is questionable. In what ways is the world changing that have prompted him to run for the Presidency? How would he as the President of Singapore influence those ways?

    Let's see. The world is witnessing the rise of China. It's influence in the world, especially in the Asia-Pacific region, is increasing. In this regard, Chinese-majority Singapore stands out among nations in the Asia-Pacific. Indians in Singapore
    would not like to see this happen.
    India is the favorite dog that the US is using to keep watch over China in Asia. The US has justified India's presence in the Asia-Paific region by defining the Indian Ocean and the Pacific Ocean as one ocean of Indo-Pacific. India is lapping it
    all up.

    As President, Tharman will have the power to reduce China's influence in Singapore and keep Singapore close to India and the US. India's, instead of China's, influence will grow in Singapore. All good for the Indo-American dialliance. It's not
    surprising if it's the Americans who have suggested that he make a run for the next President of Singapore.
    This is racism – Indian racism. It's about Indians gaining more political power and challenging Chinese-majority rule more strongly. That's the reason why this Indian is defying protocol to run for President..


    Even before he is elected, signs of Indian racism are emerging.

    Indian-infested Straits Times ran an article about Indian diaspora being more influential than the Chinese one.
    https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/india-s-diaspora-is-bigger-and-more-influential-than-any-in-history
    CNA – Channel News Aneh and China/Chinese Not Allowed devoted a long segment of a news with only Indian views on the India-China border dispute
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTYyRnxTZrw

    Judgement of dispute between Indian and Chinese passed – in favor of the Indian of course.

    https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/man-convicted-of-kicking-woman-and-using-racial-insults-for-not-masking-up

    There will be more to come. This Indian, if he becomes President, like the previous one, will not want Chinese to be heard spoken within his earshot. He too will block the appointment of Chinese Ministers who are deemed unfriendly towards Indians.

    He will definitely want to serve for 12 year. No one will be able to stop him. After him, another Indian from the PAP will step forward for the next Presidential term. It will be one Indian after another. Singapore's Presidency will become a
    permanent Indian Presidency.

    It's up to the voters now. They should realise that voting for this guy is voting for more Indian power and more Indian challenges to Chinese-majority rule in Singapore.

    The Indians will claim that their fellow President has more legitimacy, and therefore more power, than the PM because he/she is directly elected by the people.

    To stop the Presidency from becoming a target of racial politics, things should revert to the old ways. That is, the President is appointed, rotated among the four racial categories of CMIO and its role is strictly ceremonial.
    Tharman for President?

    His claim of rights to the Presidency?
    His ability, with international standings.
    He will represent a New Era.
    How he will serve Singapore's interest in a transitional and changing world.


    Individual ability
    What is he good at? Head of MAS and other organisations? International status, leading international organisations? That's riding on the reputation of Singapore. Nothing to do with his individual ability.
    Under his charge, the latest loss incurred by MAS is 30+ billions. His fellow Indian in the English Language dismisses this as only a sideshow! Shouldn't this disqualify him from the competition? Under his tenure, MAS was more concerned about how
    angpows and the printing of new dollar notes would adversely affect climate change than the financial health of Singapore.


    A New Era President?
    What New Era is he talking about? He's another English-and-England-educated Anglophile that belongs to the Days of the British Empire which is long gone. He's a relic of the past. A dinosaur.
    The rise of China has brought on the Dawn of a New Era upon the world. How many Singaporeans are aware of this? They are still living in the dark world of Western superiority because Singapore's English Language media mostly echo the negative news
    about China from the West. An Indian Anglophile President will continue to keep Singapore in such darkness. There will no New Era or Dawn.
    A Tharman Presidency will keep Singapore stagnant in the bygone era of British Imperialism and Colonialism. His Presidency would mean more Indians and wider use of the English Language in Singapore.


    A world in transition and change. How relevant is a Tharman Presidency in such a world?
    Until now, he hasn't been forthright with the reason he wants to be President. He's talking about a changing world and its crises. "The world is in transition", "The world is changing."

    The world is always in transition. It's always changing. Hasn't he heard of the wise maxim "Change is the only Constant"?

    Can the President of Singapore help to solve international and world crises and influence a transitional and changing world? That would involve global and international politics which is beyond the role of Singapore's President. That's for the PM. Is
    he going to be a President with the power of a PM? Or is he preparing himself to take over the PM's job?

    It's precisely because of the change in geo- and global-politics that Tharman should not be the President of Singapore.
    Here's why.
    Years ago, the US has already postulated a paradigm shift in its global strategy from Christian-Judeo vs Muslim Conflict to Big Power Conflict. Big Power Conflict in the foreseeable decades will be US vs China. This Conflict is not confined to both
    countries only. It includes countries with like-minded ideology of democracy and Western "universal" values. India stands out among them. India is in cahoots with the US to go against China and Chinese everywhere, doing it with increasing enthusiasm and
    antagonism. Due to this, the Conflict is spread further among the Indian and Chinese diaporas around the world.

    India has become the US favorite counterweight against China. It's at the forefront of US geopolitical strategy for Asia. It has become American's guard dog over Asia. Already, Asia-Pacific has become Indo-Pacific to both. Worse, the Indo-American
    Dalliance is stirring up Indian racism around the world.

    This has a direct bearing on multiracial Singapore with Indians among its population. Singapore, being the only Chinese-run nation in the world outside of China, is viewed with suspicion, as a possible threat, to Indo-American geopolitics in Asia-
    Pacific and South-east Asia. Chinese-majority Singapore has become a target of Indo-American geopolitics.

    One glaring example here. A US newspaper with Indian reporters casting aspersions on a local Chinese Language newspaper in Singapore.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/singapore-china-news-influence-lianhe-zaobao/


    Its not just a Chinese Language newspaper. The whole of Singapore is now under the radar of Indo-American geopolitics. Its being watched closely. US and India would prefer that Singapore come under their influence rather than that of China. One way to
    achieve this would be to increase the political power of Indians in Singapore. The best would be if one of Singapore's ethnic Indians becomes its national leader. India has a further design on Singapore. It wants to turn Singapore into be another
    destination which it can release its exploding population to - a Singapore with increasing Indian population with increasing political power. India has not forgotten the Indian Singapura of the Kalinga and Temasek era.

    Therefore, under current world situation, having an Indian President in Singapore would be detrimental to the nation and its ethnic Chinese. An Indian President would scheme to place Singapore in the Indo-American camp and sacrifice Singapore to serve
    the interest of the Indo-American Dalliance.

    Tharman is working hard to camouflage the truth. He is sparing no effort to show how well he can get along with Chinese. Non-Indian voters, especially Chinese, should be aware of what an Indian President would mean for them. Don't be misled by the
    attractive campaign that Tharman has mounted to promote himself for the Presidency, surrounding himself with Chinese VIPs and OP (Ordinary People) and spouting slogan about Singaporean Identity.

    Respect for culture?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgqAT1N0cM

    This guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
    Before a culture can be respected, it has to be respectable.
    Having stinking body odor is not a respectable culture. Neither is cleaning your arse with your hand.

    He himself needs to learn some basic about respecting cultures. Language is the soul of a culture. Before you grace a cultural ceremony of an ethnic group as a VIP, make sure you can speak the language of that culture. Otherwise you are disgracing
    yourself.


    Deeper understanding of culture?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dJJWG-eAEg

    How?
    Get close to a group of stinking Indians and draw in a deep breathe?
    Clean your arse with your hand like the Malays but dig deeper into your arsehole?

    The proper way to a deeper understanding of a culture is to learn the language of the culture first. Language is the way to the soul of a culture. If you can only speak English, you can only understand English-language based culture. And that would be
    only superficially if you are not a native English speaker.

    Forget about deeper understanding of a culture. Get the basic right first.
    It's about time Singapore stop using English in the cultural activities of all ethnic groups. Not only does this show no respect for the culture, it is contaminating the culture.

    Respect For All?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI-v0fQiUe8

    You have shown no respect for the other races. It's not the turn for an Indian to be President again. You have cut queue. You have upset protocol. Quit the race now to show your respect for all the races.

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