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  • Is This the Beginning of the End of the Internet?

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 28 03:16:57 2022
    Or is this the beginning of the end of the US First Amendment rights?

    "Earlier this month, the court upheld a preposterous Texas law stating that online platforms with more than 50 million monthly active users in the United States no longer have First Amendment rights regarding their editorial decisions. Put another way,
    the law tells big social-media companies that they can’t moderate the content on their platforms. YouTube purging terrorist-recruitment videos? Illegal. Twitter removing a violent cell of neo-Nazis harassing people with death threats? Sorry, that’s
    censorship, according to Andy Oldham, a judge of the United States Court of Appeals and the former general counsel to Texas Governor Greg Abbott.
    ...
    But the full editorial control that Section 230 protects isn’t just a boon for giants such as Facebook and YouTube. Take spam: Every online community—from large platforms to niche forums—has the freedom to build the environment that makes sense to
    them, and part of that freedom is deciding how to deal with bad actors (for example, bot accounts that spam you with offers for natural male enhancement). Keller suggested that the law may have a carve-out for spam—which is often filtered because of
    the way it’s disseminated, not because of its viewpoint (though this gets complicated with spammy political emails)."

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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 28 13:25:49 2022
    On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 6:16:59 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Or is this the beginning of the end of the US First Amendment rights?

    "Earlier this month, the court upheld a preposterous Texas law stating that online platforms with more than 50 million monthly active users in the United States no longer have First Amendment rights regarding their editorial decisions. Put another way,
    the law tells big social-media companies that they can’t moderate the content on their platforms. YouTube purging terrorist-recruitment videos? Illegal. Twitter removing a violent cell of neo-Nazis harassing people with death threats? Sorry, that’s
    censorship, according to Andy Oldham, a judge of the United States Court of Appeals and the former general counsel to Texas Governor Greg Abbott.
    ...
    But the full editorial control that Section 230 protects isn’t just a boon for giants such as Facebook and YouTube. Take spam: Every online community—from large platforms to niche forums—has the freedom to build the environment that makes sense
    to them, and part of that freedom is deciding how to deal with bad actors (for example, bot accounts that spam you with offers for natural male enhancement). Keller suggested that the law may have a carve-out for spam—which is often filtered because of
    the way it’s disseminated, not because of its viewpoint (though this gets complicated with spammy political emails)."


    How to end the internet ? Is there alternative and substitution?

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to stoney on Thu Sep 29 06:18:18 2022
    On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 8:25:50 PM UTC, stoney wrote:
    On Wednesday, September 28, 2022 at 6:16:59 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    Or is this the beginning of the end of the US First Amendment rights?

    "Earlier this month, the court upheld a preposterous Texas law stating that online platforms with more than 50 million monthly active users in the United States no longer have First Amendment rights regarding their editorial decisions. Put another
    way, the law tells big social-media companies that they can’t moderate the content on their platforms. YouTube purging terrorist-recruitment videos? Illegal. Twitter removing a violent cell of neo-Nazis harassing people with death threats? Sorry, thatâ€
    ™s censorship, according to Andy Oldham, a judge of the United States Court of Appeals and the former general counsel to Texas Governor Greg Abbott.
    ...
    But the full editorial control that Section 230 protects isn’t just a boon for giants such as Facebook and YouTube. Take spam: Every online community—from large platforms to niche forums—has the freedom to build the environment that makes sense
    to them, and part of that freedom is deciding how to deal with bad actors (for example, bot accounts that spam you with offers for natural male enhancement). Keller suggested that the law may have a carve-out for spam—which is often filtered because of
    the way it’s disseminated, not because of its viewpoint (though this gets complicated with spammy political emails)."
    How to end the internet ? Is there alternative and substitution?

    Ideal internet is free and edifying.
    Unfortunately, the two goals are often in conflict. More people allowed to sell their
    snake oil means more freedom. Less people allowed to sell snake oil through the
    internet means less freedom but would make internet discussion more edifying. Not free and/or not edifying mean the end of this idealized internet.

    Online platform editors seek to edit discussions to make their platform more edifying.
    But then their first amendment rights is exercised at the expanse of platform users'
    first amendment rights.

    How to determine the balance point between freedom and edification and by whom? Given America's polarization, politically as well as socially, one person's democracy is
    invariable another person's democratism.

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