• [Living with Covid] We're starting to understand 'long COVID.' We can f

    From ltlee1@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 28 06:45:29 2022
    1. Scale
    "The condition of long COVID, also known as post-acute sequelae of SARS CoV-2 infection, is rife with mysteries. While its incidence among adults who have been infected has been estimated at 5% to 40%, a recent study that tracked symptoms before
    infections and compared participants to controls has given us one of the best snapshots to date. It indicated that 1 in 8 people who have had COVID experience prolonged symptoms over many months.

    With vaccinations and different variants, the incidence may be lower, but even if it were half as many (6% of adults who have been infected), and we assume two-thirds of adults have had COVID, that would equate to more than 10 million Americans who have
    endured persistent symptoms that interfere with their daily life activities, frequently impairing their ability to return to work."

    2. Scope
    "One of the mysteries: As opposed to those most likely to get severe COVID, the vast majority of people affected by long COVID are younger (30 to 50 years old) and previously healthy. The typical symptoms include marked fatigue, exercise intolerance,
    difficulty breathing, brain fog, muscle pain and weakness, chest pain, headaches and fast heart rate."

    3. Effective therapy
    "While the list of troubling symptoms is long, the number of proven therapies is very short — zero."

    4. Start to Understand
    "A combined team from Yale and Mount Sinai used artificial intelligence to determine what, of so many factors, may be of central importance in determining whether a COVID patient develops lingering symptoms. There was a singular driver — low cortisol
    in the blood — a particularly intriguing finding.

    This hormone, produced by the adrenal gland in response to stress, has diverse functions. When it is below healthy levels, as has also been found in chronic fatigue syndrome, it could be tied to some of the symptoms of long COVID. ...

    The “long” in long COVID has not been emphasized enough. A new report from more than 1.25 million people with COVID showed an increased risk of developing brain fog, dementia, seizures and psychosis over two years. Similarly, follow-up at one year or
    longer has shown an increased risk of heart and blood vessel diseases, diabetes, clotting disorders, and lung and kidney damage, even among people who had only mild to moderate COVID and were not hospitalized. Such risk appears to be cumulatively
    increased with reinfections, including infections that break through vaccinations."

    5. We Can fight it
    There are more than 25 trials that have been launched with many different types of drugs or supplements, but all of them are quite small. The trials have generally not been partitioned by the cluster of patient symptoms, such as those with
    lightheadedness or people who are predominantly suffering from difficulty breathing and brain fog. With so many millions of people impaired, the need for accelerating clinical trials with promising immune-system modulating or virus-inactivating agents is
    beyond urgent."

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-08-21/long-covid-treatment-research

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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 1 09:13:09 2022
    On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 9:45:30 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    1. Scale
    "The condition of long COVID, also known as post-acute sequelae of SARS CoV-2 infection, is rife with mysteries. While its incidence among adults who have been infected has been estimated at 5% to 40%, a recent study that tracked symptoms before
    infections and compared participants to controls has given us one of the best snapshots to date. It indicated that 1 in 8 people who have had COVID experience prolonged symptoms over many months.

    With vaccinations and different variants, the incidence may be lower, but even if it were half as many (6% of adults who have been infected), and we assume two-thirds of adults have had COVID, that would equate to more than 10 million Americans who
    have endured persistent symptoms that interfere with their daily life activities, frequently impairing their ability to return to work."

    2. Scope
    "One of the mysteries: As opposed to those most likely to get severe COVID, the vast majority of people affected by long COVID are younger (30 to 50 years old) and previously healthy. The typical symptoms include marked fatigue, exercise intolerance,
    difficulty breathing, brain fog, muscle pain and weakness, chest pain, headaches and fast heart rate."

    3. Effective therapy
    "While the list of troubling symptoms is long, the number of proven therapies is very short — zero."

    4. Start to Understand
    "A combined team from Yale and Mount Sinai used artificial intelligence to determine what, of so many factors, may be of central importance in determining whether a COVID patient develops lingering symptoms. There was a singular driver — low cortisol
    in the blood — a particularly intriguing finding.

    This hormone, produced by the adrenal gland in response to stress, has diverse functions. When it is below healthy levels, as has also been found in chronic fatigue syndrome, it could be tied to some of the symptoms of long COVID. ...

    The “long” in long COVID has not been emphasized enough. A new report from more than 1.25 million people with COVID showed an increased risk of developing brain fog, dementia, seizures and psychosis over two years. Similarly, follow-up at one year
    or longer has shown an increased risk of heart and blood vessel diseases, diabetes, clotting disorders, and lung and kidney damage, even among people who had only mild to moderate COVID and were not hospitalized. Such risk appears to be cumulatively
    increased with reinfections, including infections that break through vaccinations."

    5. We Can fight it
    There are more than 25 trials that have been launched with many different types of drugs or supplements, but all of them are quite small. The trials have generally not been partitioned by the cluster of patient symptoms, such as those with
    lightheadedness or people who are predominantly suffering from difficulty breathing and brain fog. With so many millions of people impaired, the need for accelerating clinical trials with promising immune-system modulating or virus-inactivating agents is
    beyond urgent."

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-08-21/long-covid-treatment-research


    Long Covid treatment might not help as the damage is already done to our brain cells and nervous system, too. New medical treatment cannot reverse what is changed and outcome that done to our body. New medical treatment can only relieve the symptoms of
    it. Hence, people who get tired prefer to work on part home and part office. They get to rest on their own and at their own time, as long as their schedule is approved.

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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to stoney on Fri Sep 2 08:22:18 2022
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:13:10 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
    On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 9:45:30 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    1. Scale
    "The condition of long COVID, also known as post-acute sequelae of SARS CoV-2 infection, is rife with mysteries. While its incidence among adults who have been infected has been estimated at 5% to 40%, a recent study that tracked symptoms before
    infections and compared participants to controls has given us one of the best snapshots to date. It indicated that 1 in 8 people who have had COVID experience prolonged symptoms over many months.

    With vaccinations and different variants, the incidence may be lower, but even if it were half as many (6% of adults who have been infected), and we assume two-thirds of adults have had COVID, that would equate to more than 10 million Americans who
    have endured persistent symptoms that interfere with their daily life activities, frequently impairing their ability to return to work."

    2. Scope
    "One of the mysteries: As opposed to those most likely to get severe COVID, the vast majority of people affected by long COVID are younger (30 to 50 years old) and previously healthy. The typical symptoms include marked fatigue, exercise intolerance,
    difficulty breathing, brain fog, muscle pain and weakness, chest pain, headaches and fast heart rate."

    3. Effective therapy
    "While the list of troubling symptoms is long, the number of proven therapies is very short — zero."

    4. Start to Understand
    "A combined team from Yale and Mount Sinai used artificial intelligence to determine what, of so many factors, may be of central importance in determining whether a COVID patient develops lingering symptoms. There was a singular driver — low
    cortisol in the blood — a particularly intriguing finding.

    This hormone, produced by the adrenal gland in response to stress, has diverse functions. When it is below healthy levels, as has also been found in chronic fatigue syndrome, it could be tied to some of the symptoms of long COVID. ...

    The “long” in long COVID has not been emphasized enough. A new report from more than 1.25 million people with COVID showed an increased risk of developing brain fog, dementia, seizures and psychosis over two years. Similarly, follow-up at one
    year or longer has shown an increased risk of heart and blood vessel diseases, diabetes, clotting disorders, and lung and kidney damage, even among people who had only mild to moderate COVID and were not hospitalized. Such risk appears to be cumulatively
    increased with reinfections, including infections that break through vaccinations."

    5. We Can fight it
    There are more than 25 trials that have been launched with many different types of drugs or supplements, but all of them are quite small. The trials have generally not been partitioned by the cluster of patient symptoms, such as those with
    lightheadedness or people who are predominantly suffering from difficulty breathing and brain fog. With so many millions of people impaired, the need for accelerating clinical trials with promising immune-system modulating or virus-inactivating agents is
    beyond urgent."

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-08-21/long-covid-treatment-research
    Long Covid treatment might not help as the damage is already done to our brain cells and nervous system, too. New medical treatment cannot reverse what is changed and outcome that done to our body. New medical treatment can only relieve the symptoms of
    it. Hence, people who get tired prefer to work on part home and part office. They get to rest on their own and at their own time, as long as their schedule is approved.

    Although brain cells can repair but in general the brain does not regenerate like in other organs.
    So you are right. The fight is more in the future and may be in the form of preventive medicine.

    At present, high level of cortisol was found to be associated with more COVID death. This
    certainly explains why more black and hispanic Americans were killed by COVID. Being
    minorities in the US are in general more stressful.

    Low level of cortisol is associated with long COVID could then be viewed as this group of
    patients were on the whole beating back the virus but paying a price.

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  • From David P.@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 10:03:40 2022
    ltlee1 wrote:
    Although brain cells can repair but in general the brain does not regenerate like in other organs.
    So you are right. The fight is more in the future and may be in the form of preventive medicine.

    At present, high level of cortisol was found to be associated with more COVID death. This
    certainly explains why more black and hispanic Americans were killed by COVID. Being
    minorities in the US are in general more stressful.

    Low level of cortisol is associated with long COVID could then be viewed as this group of
    patients were on the whole beating back the virus but paying a price.
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    The scientists called for Zero Population Growth 50 years ago;
    they were looking at our ecological footprint & projecting
    into the future, & nobody else was! Nothing was debunked;
    it was ignored!

    The media needs to be interviewing Ecologists.
    They're looking at the whole biosphere. Doctors,
    epidemiologists, and politicians are just looking
    at a piece of the picture, whatever suits them!
    There's nothing "normal" about adding one billion
    people every 12 years!

    If we had stayed at world population 4 billion, we
    wouldn't have climate change, the refugee crisis,
    decimation of wildlife, & environmental degradation!
    People thought they could do whatever they wanted,
    and get away with it, and they were wrong!

    Extending life spans artificially by suppressing
    communicable diseases is a selfish decision at the
    expense of other critters, future generations, and
    the environment! Nowhere else in Nature does a
    population increase indefinitely without a crash!

    The U.N. projects that we'll rise to 9, then 10 billion
    & level out. Is that the plan? What's the plan?
    Who's the author of the plan? I was talking to a
    professor in 2020, & he said: "There is no plan."
    --
    --

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  • From stoney@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 21:31:07 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:22:19 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:13:10 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
    On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 9:45:30 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    1. Scale
    "The condition of long COVID, also known as post-acute sequelae of SARS CoV-2 infection, is rife with mysteries. While its incidence among adults who have been infected has been estimated at 5% to 40%, a recent study that tracked symptoms before
    infections and compared participants to controls has given us one of the best snapshots to date. It indicated that 1 in 8 people who have had COVID experience prolonged symptoms over many months.

    With vaccinations and different variants, the incidence may be lower, but even if it were half as many (6% of adults who have been infected), and we assume two-thirds of adults have had COVID, that would equate to more than 10 million Americans who
    have endured persistent symptoms that interfere with their daily life activities, frequently impairing their ability to return to work."

    2. Scope
    "One of the mysteries: As opposed to those most likely to get severe COVID, the vast majority of people affected by long COVID are younger (30 to 50 years old) and previously healthy. The typical symptoms include marked fatigue, exercise
    intolerance, difficulty breathing, brain fog, muscle pain and weakness, chest pain, headaches and fast heart rate."

    3. Effective therapy
    "While the list of troubling symptoms is long, the number of proven therapies is very short — zero."

    4. Start to Understand
    "A combined team from Yale and Mount Sinai used artificial intelligence to determine what, of so many factors, may be of central importance in determining whether a COVID patient develops lingering symptoms. There was a singular driver — low
    cortisol in the blood — a particularly intriguing finding.

    This hormone, produced by the adrenal gland in response to stress, has diverse functions. When it is below healthy levels, as has also been found in chronic fatigue syndrome, it could be tied to some of the symptoms of long COVID. ...

    The “long” in long COVID has not been emphasized enough. A new report from more than 1.25 million people with COVID showed an increased risk of developing brain fog, dementia, seizures and psychosis over two years. Similarly, follow-up at one
    year or longer has shown an increased risk of heart and blood vessel diseases, diabetes, clotting disorders, and lung and kidney damage, even among people who had only mild to moderate COVID and were not hospitalized. Such risk appears to be cumulatively
    increased with reinfections, including infections that break through vaccinations."

    5. We Can fight it
    There are more than 25 trials that have been launched with many different types of drugs or supplements, but all of them are quite small. The trials have generally not been partitioned by the cluster of patient symptoms, such as those with
    lightheadedness or people who are predominantly suffering from difficulty breathing and brain fog. With so many millions of people impaired, the need for accelerating clinical trials with promising immune-system modulating or virus-inactivating agents is
    beyond urgent."

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-08-21/long-covid-treatment-research
    Long Covid treatment might not help as the damage is already done to our brain cells and nervous system, too. New medical treatment cannot reverse what is changed and outcome that done to our body. New medical treatment can only relieve the symptoms
    of it. Hence, people who get tired prefer to work on part home and part office. They get to rest on their own and at their own time, as long as their schedule is approved.
    Although brain cells can repair but in general the brain does not regenerate like in other organs.
    So you are right. The fight is more in the future and may be in the form of preventive medicine.

    At present, high level of cortisol was found to be associated with more COVID death. This
    certainly explains why more black and hispanic Americans were killed by COVID. Being
    minorities in the US are in general more stressful.

    Low level of cortisol is associated with long COVID could then be viewed as this group of
    patients were on the whole beating back the virus but paying a price.


    The Covid vaccine from the West that sold to the majority of countries in the world could cause rise in high level of cortisol, to which this hormone produced to regulate and function the body's organ functions has gone up and fatigued the body's sensors
    and controllers. Hence, the vaccine may have changed the cortisol in the body.

    The vaccine could be engineered by those bad actors called as "dark invisible forces" hidden in the lower echelon of vaccine companies to produce vaccine to fatigue people. This is so that they can permanently make them to obey them forever. They will
    make to become lethargic, sluggish, confused, foggy, lifeless, languid, stagnant, dull, slow-moving, and unenergetic, etc.

    These fatigue syndromes will eventually turn them like zombie, moron, alien, or a fool of circumstances. Hence, the Western vaccine is the cause of it. Those people who refused to take Western Covid vaccine did not have these syndromic problems at all.
    Hence, big countries should build their own vaccines to protect their people, instead. Poor and small countries have no choice but to sacrifice them to them.

    Their perceived change in some function, sensation or appearance of a person that indicates a disease or disorder, such as fever, headache or rash, and alteration of behavior will require long term syndromic treatment from vaccine producers again. They
    will make again make long term revenue of billions and trillions of dollar from the world of people, instead.


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  • From ltlee1@21:1/5 to stoney on Sat Sep 3 05:29:05 2022
    On Saturday, September 3, 2022 at 12:31:09 AM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 11:22:19 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:13:10 PM UTC-4, stoney wrote:
    On Sunday, August 28, 2022 at 9:45:30 PM UTC+8, ltlee1 wrote:
    1. Scale
    "The condition of long COVID, also known as post-acute sequelae of SARS CoV-2 infection, is rife with mysteries. While its incidence among adults who have been infected has been estimated at 5% to 40%, a recent study that tracked symptoms before
    infections and compared participants to controls has given us one of the best snapshots to date. It indicated that 1 in 8 people who have had COVID experience prolonged symptoms over many months.

    With vaccinations and different variants, the incidence may be lower, but even if it were half as many (6% of adults who have been infected), and we assume two-thirds of adults have had COVID, that would equate to more than 10 million Americans
    who have endured persistent symptoms that interfere with their daily life activities, frequently impairing their ability to return to work."

    2. Scope
    "One of the mysteries: As opposed to those most likely to get severe COVID, the vast majority of people affected by long COVID are younger (30 to 50 years old) and previously healthy. The typical symptoms include marked fatigue, exercise
    intolerance, difficulty breathing, brain fog, muscle pain and weakness, chest pain, headaches and fast heart rate."

    3. Effective therapy
    "While the list of troubling symptoms is long, the number of proven therapies is very short — zero."

    4. Start to Understand
    "A combined team from Yale and Mount Sinai used artificial intelligence to determine what, of so many factors, may be of central importance in determining whether a COVID patient develops lingering symptoms. There was a singular driver — low
    cortisol in the blood — a particularly intriguing finding.

    This hormone, produced by the adrenal gland in response to stress, has diverse functions. When it is below healthy levels, as has also been found in chronic fatigue syndrome, it could be tied to some of the symptoms of long COVID. ...

    The “long” in long COVID has not been emphasized enough. A new report from more than 1.25 million people with COVID showed an increased risk of developing brain fog, dementia, seizures and psychosis over two years. Similarly, follow-up at one
    year or longer has shown an increased risk of heart and blood vessel diseases, diabetes, clotting disorders, and lung and kidney damage, even among people who had only mild to moderate COVID and were not hospitalized. Such risk appears to be cumulatively
    increased with reinfections, including infections that break through vaccinations."

    5. We Can fight it
    There are more than 25 trials that have been launched with many different types of drugs or supplements, but all of them are quite small. The trials have generally not been partitioned by the cluster of patient symptoms, such as those with
    lightheadedness or people who are predominantly suffering from difficulty breathing and brain fog. With so many millions of people impaired, the need for accelerating clinical trials with promising immune-system modulating or virus-inactivating agents is
    beyond urgent."

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-08-21/long-covid-treatment-research
    Long Covid treatment might not help as the damage is already done to our brain cells and nervous system, too. New medical treatment cannot reverse what is changed and outcome that done to our body. New medical treatment can only relieve the
    symptoms of it. Hence, people who get tired prefer to work on part home and part office. They get to rest on their own and at their own time, as long as their schedule is approved.
    Although brain cells can repair but in general the brain does not regenerate like in other organs.
    So you are right. The fight is more in the future and may be in the form of preventive medicine.

    At present, high level of cortisol was found to be associated with more COVID death. This
    certainly explains why more black and hispanic Americans were killed by COVID. Being
    minorities in the US are in general more stressful.

    Low level of cortisol is associated with long COVID could then be viewed as this group of
    patients were on the whole beating back the virus but paying a price.
    The Covid vaccine from the West that sold to the majority of countries in the world could cause rise in high level of cortisol, to which this hormone produced to regulate and function the body's organ functions has gone up and fatigued the body's
    sensors and controllers. Hence, the vaccine may have changed the cortisol in the body.

    In some sense, it is a trade off.
    Vaccines are as effective as they simulate real viral attacks. The more effective a vaccine, the more
    it will stress the body. With a clearer picture of long COVID and its association with low cortisol level.
    It is time to re-evaluate the effectiveness of COVID vaccine, not just in rendering immunity, but also
    in its effect on long Covid.

    And of course, when to live with COVID.

    The vaccine could be engineered by those bad actors called as "dark invisible forces" hidden in the lower echelon of vaccine companies to produce vaccine to fatigue people. This is so that they can permanently make them to obey them forever. They will
    make to become lethargic, sluggish, confused, foggy, lifeless, languid, stagnant, dull, slow-moving, and unenergetic, etc.

    These fatigue syndromes will eventually turn them like zombie, moron, alien, or a fool of circumstances. Hence, the Western vaccine is the cause of it. Those people who refused to take Western Covid vaccine did not have these syndromic problems at all.
    Hence, big countries should build their own vaccines to protect their people, instead. Poor and small countries have no choice but to sacrifice them to them.

    Their perceived change in some function, sensation or appearance of a person that indicates a disease or disorder, such as fever, headache or rash, and alteration of behavior will require long term syndromic treatment from vaccine producers again. They
    will make again make long term revenue of billions and trillions of dollar from the world of people, instead.

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